A channeled message to humanity about "UFO spiral" in Norway

[THE eXchanger]

did you know
almost 80% of all
that was orated to earth,
and, to beings
that were upon the earth
were stolen from you

much related to north america in the 15th century

much related to europe in the 4th century

and,

much related to africa ~ in patriarchal (sp?) times

[THE eXchanger]

and, then, we can talk about
the burning of the books in the libraries of aleXandria

thinking of this, transports us,
back to a time, of sitting with many,
who read these messages,
and, not only feeling, but, seeing tears,
well up, in the corners of our eyes

[THE eXchanger]

the original orating of the buddhist doctorines,
only 25% of them,
has been remembered,
for, they were,
orated/and, NOT scribed-nor written down

[THE eXchanger]

many who are record keepers,
are, NOW, back in incarnated forms,
with rafts of helpers,
who can tap into many akashic records,
and/or books of life,
that eXist, in many places,
from the light libraries of alcoyne, in the seven sister star system of P
from the light libraries of The Grand Central Sun on earth
from the light libraries within The Grand Temples of 9D Venus
to, the light libraries upon the 26th dimension
where the books are stored,
related to beings, who have completed 2 matriXes
the records of deeds, both good ones, and, bad ones
are well recorded in these places
and, as, you tap into them
and, for many, this starts to occur
within the dream_time
you do start to remember

in an information age,
look at the numbers of people,
who are currently scribing their information,
some of them, are eXceeding accurate

also, where information eXists
it is NOT necessary to be physically present
to energetically tap into it,
from a remote standpoint

this is why, some of the places
where such things, were taken, when they were stolen
from many people/and, many cultures
still sit today, in a stored format
(hidden within vaults, lined with lead)
there are many souls incarnate at this time
who can, and, who will start a process
of revealing, all the things, that they know

iT iS a grand time, this grand cycle on earth
to be here, in this know

iT could be said, this iS a very 'telling time'

[THE eXchanger]

iT makes us ponder,
a time, NOT so very long ago,
in what today, is known,
as The Four Corners,
that lie in north america,
and, at the time,
extended further,
from east to west,
and, from north to south,
to include, mexico/and, canada

there, we were incarnate
known there, by the nickname of:
The Carver,
a king cast sage, who, was a form of a record-keeper
and, sky traveller,
one who held the keys,
aka The Keeper of ancient tribal knowledge,
and, a project, that we did for one,
known, as, Peter

we are going to search our archieves on yahoo,
to find our messages on this...

interesting that this period,
was, the last galatic lineup,
and, was also a grand cycle

in the end,
the tribe was seen,
gathering around, a sacred fire,
joining hands, and, ascending back to the stars

these beings, were NOT 3D in nature,
but, beings, of a 7th to 9th density,
similiar, to the beings, in Lemuria, and, in Atlantis,
and, in other grand cycles.

a few stayed, upon the earth,
to usher in, the new world,
that, at that time, nearly 500 batkuns ago

(52 years = one batkun
batkun = 20 kuns
katun = 20 tuns
tun = 18 unials
unial = 20 kins
kin = 1 day

the tzolkin
utilised 260 days - the time for a baby to develop
ie; a baby born on 7lk - will have been conceived 260 days earlier on 7lk
day 1-13
day 1-20
(all of them, have glyphs~and combinations of glyphs)

simple stuff
a circle, 360 degrees
1 degree, 60 minutes of arc
1 minute of arc, 60 seconds

and, long forgotten measures
of 1 cubit = 30 fingers
1 cord = 120 cubits / or 3600 fingers
1 grain
1 shekel=180 grains
1 talent = 360 shekels

(seems it all can be divided by 6/or 10)

and, numbers formed on 1-13-147 ?

for some reason, we got guided to look for this old work

(we'll come back, after we find it, and, post it)

[ojibway]

But thats just it, I no longer want to be protected. This is what I have been avoiding, it is what I have been running from, myself, my true self. So going there in the dreamtime will not unite these two realms. You see, both realms are in me, but apart, separate yet together. If only one realm goes to visit the mystery centers of energy, then only one will be able to draw its energies. The marriage of both cannot occur. So it must be the physical body that goes there. It would be nice if only the spirit could go there and draw and store these energies and then bring them back to the physical body. But that is not possible without divine intervention. And what they allow us to bring back is what they want us to bring back. Not what we need to bring back. But once the unification occurs, the limits are no longer there. The spirit self will be able to go anywhere it pleases to go, draw any energies it requires, and it will be as if the physical body has done the same. This is something that we have to figure out for ourselves. Divinity cannot be given, it must be earned, and as it turns out, the hard way. One must first walk through darkness, in order to respect the light, in order to want the light. Despite this burden of darkness, there will still be those who choose the darkness.

[THE eXchanger]

from 1490 (the unrecorded north american diaster,
of the slaying of many)
put into play 9 batkuns (52 years) of hell
to 1958

we think, we were born, on a date,
of dec 27, 1958, to remember, something,
since the midheaven was 25 acq 25 at 345pm
and, since the ascendant was in 22 degress of gemini
with 5 degress of the sea-goat in capricorn
and, a moon in cancer
along with a 18/19 libra north node rising
and/that it was 7lk - the day of the wind god in mayan
along with the fact,
that there are 360 days in one of the oldest mayan calenders,
and, the last 5 days,
dec 27/28/29/30/and, 31 - are considered 'dead' days

we are sure, this symbolises something - with reference,
to the ending of the hells

ironically, someone made a comment to us,
have we ever, owned our own fall ~
why, yes, of course, we have owned it
we lead in 1490 - a group of 12 as a wizard in mayan times
likely our life time, of the most force/and, most power
and, we utilised it, for good, and, for bad purposes

this group of 12, had 2 groups of six
operating together, as, a group
we were the 13th member-or, orator for this group
2 groups of six, normally listened
to the rational, and, irrational,
and, we did NOT listen to our own higher guidance,
of The Forever Grandfather, KulKulKan,
and, acted like, we were our own god,
part of our own hereditary soul family,
and, operated at that time,
in a very negative pole...
NOT, as, we could, or, should have operated
and, only 10 of the 12~ followed us,
into the ocean, on the way, to agartha/and, the grand central sun
since - we were NOT operating as light warriors
we did NOT make our intended, destination
and, instead, spend 52 cycles of 9 ~ reclaiming our light

with the one, smart one, who did NOT lsiten to us,
becoming our own guide

so, to their question-have we owned our 'dark side'
yes, the answer, is clearly, a yes one

[THE eXchanger]

kulkulkan says to you, and, to us:

are you NOT the captain of your 'own' ship ???

there have been many times,
within recorded, and, unrecorded history,
that listening to elders,
over, listening to self,
has resulted in many, a fall ~ some of which,
destroyed communites completely

he says, that, we once, were a prime eXample
of that, in a lifetime, where many saw us,
as GOD, instead of seeing,
The Great Spririts,
as putting their force/or their energy
out on loan to us,
and, seeing that this 'great spirit'
rests within all

~ and, that all beings
truly are created equal
and, iT is, merely, the choosen potential
and, the application, of said force, or said power
in positive poles,
that moves one forward,
onward, and, upward
while anchoring into the heart of The Mother Earth
under the light of The Father Sun
within the ethers of The GrandFather Sky
and, under the light of The grandmother moon
for one, truly anchors,
all of their assortment of selves,
through a common denominator~
through bridges, triads, trines and trinities,
to re-unite them selves

all is a choice...
there is an easy way,
to own your own destiny,
something, that is done,
through ~ commanding/and, demanding
100% alignment with The Great Spirits,
and, each and every one of your own 13 aspects of creation

you never walk alone

there too, are guardians of many more, than just 6 directions

and, most importantly

without the plant kingdom, and, without the mineral kingdom
your physical eXpression, would die, a physical death

likewise, without you, the plant kingdom,
would die

what you need to breath, they eXhale
what you eXhale, they need to breath

everything, is connected, absolutely everything

there is NO eXeption, to the rule of all is connected

"k" thru Susan

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by ojibway

But thats just it, I no longer want to be protected. This is what I have been avoiding, it is what I have been running from, myself, my true self. So going there in the dreamtime will not unite these two realms. You see, both realms are in me, but apart, separate yet together. If only one realm goes to visit the mystery centers of energy, then only one will be able to draw its energies. The marriage of both cannot occur. So it must be the physical body that goes there. It would be nice if only the spirit could go there and draw and store these energies and then bring them back to the physical body. But that is not possible without divine intervention. And what they allow us to bring back is what they want us to bring back. Not what we need to bring back. But once the unification occurs, the limits are no longer there. The spirit self will be able to go anywhere it pleases to go, draw any energies it requires, and it will be as if the physical body has done the same. This is something that we have to figure out for ourselves. Divinity cannot be given, it must be earned, and as it turns out, the hard way. One must first walk through darkness, in order to respect the light, in order to want the light. Despite this burden of darkness, there will still be those who choose the darkness.

if you wish, NO PROTECTION, you will get NO protection
all is a choice
protection, is a wise thing, to employ
it takes YOU, and, only YOU to engage it
of course, there is the times,
when the guardian, shows up,
in the 11th hours, to save your butt,
however, this is, only done, in very dire situations
in the dream-time, many of you,
are complete, and, full eXpressions,
you are, what ever it is, that you choose,
to allow yourself and, your selves to be,
that iS the beauty of free-will
there are many times,
when you dream/or your sleep,
that 12 of your eXpressions completely,
and, totally, leave the physical vehicle,
and, go places, to learn
thru teachings, and, thru dialogues with others
for truly, the teacher, always learn more than the student
as, it creates an impression, within the teacher that reinforces,
what they are eXchanging, and, creates within the student,
a platform to eXpand...
for truly, the real truth is,
that the best student
iS, always the best teacher
and, the best teachers i
iS, always the best student
two or more things, are always necessary,
when iT comes to eXchange

no, you never 'draw' on energies
you, borrow them,
and, you pay them back
thus creating,
a equation, that holds 'true' balance

earned, is similiar to
i did this, now, you owe me that
this-and, that, are NOT the same things

where borrowing energy,
and, giving back energy,
are one-and, the same

kulkulkan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

YOU do NOT figure out anything alone...
unless you choose to walk alone

there is, for everyone a team/and, teams...
that are there, should you choose
to call out to them
to invite them in
wise things, is to make sure,
you command/and demand any team
that comes in to eXchange with you
that they be,
in 100% alignment
with your missions, your purposes, and, your tasks

this way, you make NO errors

this way, you have at your fingertips
complete/and, total assurance/and, insurance
that what iT iS, that you are choosing to bring in
iS all that you will require

YOUR WiLL,
SETS THE TRUTH,
into YOUR WAY,
or THE WAY

KulKulKan
thru Susan

[THE eXchanger]

have you ever noticed
if you assume something as a truth,
that clearly is NOT a truth

you end up making an ass - out of your "u" or your "me"

kulkulkan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

command, and, demand
for only equations of
truth, to be presented to you (13)*


(funny, but, when you do that,
the rivers of truth, they flow to you,
they flow thru you, and, you become one,
with the rivers of truth)

iT iS a TYME for TRUTH

kulkulkan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

What you choose to avoid,
you become

What you choose to reveal,
you are

if you choose, to observe,
in the negative pole,
you will merely, vicariously live life,
watching the eXperiences of others,
however, watching, does NOT imply
'real' living, thru an eXperience

you do it, to be it
you be it, to do it

so, the biggest question is:
what do you want to be ???
what do you want to do ???

why iS iT, that you have choosen to be here
iN this TYME ???

You, and, your 13 aspects
You, and, your 'true' guides
they do know the answer,
to this amasing piece of a puzzle,
where each of you,
absolutely each and everyone of you,
are a part, of a greater whole.

kukulkan
thru susan

(perhaps, we will share, some old dialogues
from our journals, this might aid/assist, and, help others)

for truly, if any one piece of information
that was ever given to us,
holds within iT, any impact for another,
our will would be, to care, to share iT

once, kulkulkan told us
within, that dialogue

"iF you do NOT speak,
your tongue,
iT will die a death"

along with,

'you are NOT a brave, to sit, off alone in the distance"

and, perhaps, the most important one,

"when you choose, to truly step into,
the who/what/where/why/when, etc.,
the how of iT, will all come to you,
and, flow thru you,
we will, be there for you, always, and, in all ways"

NO ONE, ever walks alone, eXcept, by choice

energetic eXpression feeds energetic eXpression

kulkulcan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

the 'true' divinity
iT iS something
only you, can activate within you

yes, iT is the 'main connector' piece

one of the bridges,
between, triad, trine & trinty

like 3 sacred triangles,
that form 9 points of your inner star,
they are there, mine for them

KulKulKan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

They the lower 9, hold a ratio of divine male/and, divine female

and, with the higher spark - the component parts

of The Higher self (7) The Essence (8), The Monad (9)
they hold the eXact opposite, of divine male/and, divine female

a being eXpressing
62 female/38 male
in the lower 9

will be eXpressing
38 male/62 female
in the higher 3 + 1

YOU are a balanced equation - thru out these 13 eXpressions

[THE eXchanger]

greetings to the group of 13 (3 members and 10 guests)
who are currently viewing, and, interacting with these threads

so, to the 10 guests

- are you from the group of 9+1

forgive, our candor

[ojibway]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

earned, is similiar to
i did this, now, you owe me that
this-and, that, are NOT the same things

You cannot demand your reward Susan, they will see through this, and you will not have earned anything. You are not owed 'that' for doing 'this', but if you are worthy of the gift, then it will be given, not taken. It can only be accepted in humility, not arrogance, that is the failsafe.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by ojibway

You cannot demand your reward Susan, they will see through this, and you will not have earned anything. You are not owed 'that' for doing 'this', but if you are worthy of the gift, then it will be given, not taken. It can only be accepted in humility, not arrogance, that is the failsafe.

you must, command/and, demand
the elements, that iS a truth

however, when iT iS done
to set conditions,
this iS the only way, in which
you can set,
what iT is, that YOU will choose to allow

there iS NO other WAY

[THE eXchanger]

you must understand,
the true path of the magican
~ the 'real' magican

is one, who works with the all the energies

if you select, the ones, that are in PURR_FECT alignment

YOU will save yourself, a lot of grief

currently, you do NOT fully understand

the equations ~ of real balance

owe/and, take - are NOT part of 'real' eXchange

give/and, receive

receive/and, give

they are the parts of 'real' equationS

esp. when they are done, within positive poles

or, done in a way,

in which, negative balances, positive

- and, comes to rest

in a state of zero-point

- it is true, that, NOT always, can another soul
give, in order to receive

however, a true receiver, of a givers,
good energies,
will always find a way,
to return a good energetic transfer of information,
with a good energetic return, of caring/kind/loving/and, supportive energies,
that is required,
for 'good eXchanges" to occur, and, to continue

remember~ iT iS always, and, in all ways
you ~ within any mirror

kulkulkan
thru susan

[ojibway]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

have you ever noticed
if you assume something as a truth,
that clearly is NOT a truth

you end up making an ass - out of your "u" or your "me"

kulkulkan
thru susan

What we seem to perceive as truth, is what we believe. But once we begin to "understand" our belief, to understand just what it is that we believe. It will be this point that you realize that we are an ass(humility). In some ways it may be better to not understand what you believe, at least then, in our minds we are not an ass.

[THE eXchanger]

iT could be likened to this:

many who sit within the chairs of 'so-called-elders'

are NOT, the so-called elders

we know this very well,
for we can play the role,
of both student/and, of teacher,
equally well

the same can NOT be said,
of many who have fallen into 'the role' of 'elder'

and, of the many, who, if you will excuse the eXpression
do NOT truly know their ass, from a hole in the ground

many teach, only part of a teaching

however, it could be said, they teach that, as, best, they can

we are here, back here, in this NOW,
to eXpand, upon teachings

to make them MORE, NOT less

for TRUTH is, and, always will be THE TRUTH

all else, is just NOT truth

eXpand, or deflate,

all iS a choice !!!

only YOU have the force, and, the power
to choose to eXchange,
to enter into THE PiVOT of THE NOW
iT iS there,
you alter, and, you change
all of you, are 'shifting'
and, within all of those shifts,
the very changes,
each, and, everyone of you,
came to earth to be,
eXist ...

Climbing into them,
and, flowing with them,
iS all ways, and, in always,
totally UP to YOU

KulKulKan
thru Susan

ps;

we are a 'mamaS',
whether or NOT, another 'mamaS' says,
we are a 'mamaS'

we are a Grandmother
whether or NOT, ANOTHER Grandmother says,
we are a "Grandmother"

we are a Grandfather
whether or NOT, ANOTHER Grandfather says,
we are a "Grandfather"

we are, all, that we are !!!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by ojibway

What we seem to perceive as truth, is what we believe. But once we begin to "understand" our belief, to understand just what it is that we believe. It will be this point that you realize that we are an ass(humility). In some ways it may be better to not understand what you believe, at least then, in our minds we are not an ass.

a belief, is NOT always a truth

if you allow another, to pin the tail on you, as, an 'ass'

then, an 'ass' you will be

this has NOTHING to do,

with humility/or being humble

We give our respects,
to all who weave 'good work'
likewise, it is important
that others, give back,
the same type of respect !!!

We know full well,
that, the acorn, always falls, very close to the oak tree

kulkulkan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

what would be the point,
to choosing NO understanding,
vs, full understanding ???

how would that propel your boat ???

upstream?

or, downstream ?

TYME to set your 'real' traveller,
and, voyageur into action !!!

The world was NEVER changed
by those ewes, who, were quiet

The world is altered, and, changed
by braves, who are present,
and, accounted for:

those few,
who are brave enough
to choose, to NOT hold their tongue

those few,
who are brave enough
to choose, to undergo ridicule by some of the others

those few,
who will start a process
of being, the Sky Travellers,
that they are,
to the anasuzi,
and, to the hopi,
they were called 'star blowers'

Those who Blow,
The Winds of Real Change...

those are the ones
who rustles leaves,
and, do it, in a way,
it turns pages in the book of lives,
and, as, they do,
The Grand Pages within All of The Cosmos,
start to take, and, make their turn

Ghandi, was a good eXample,
of how, one lone man, did work,
that changed the world ...

there are many lone men, and, lone women
currently residing within the NINE densities of Mother Earth
who currently, in this tyme,
are doing, just that !!!

Some will have ears, that hear
Some will have eyes, that see
all, men/and, women currently incarnate
possess this ability

iT iS a TYME for a rising of the brave

for only they, are the ones, who do it, to be it

and, by being it, they do iT !!!

kulkulkan
thru susan

[THE eXchanger]

Many of your scholarly books,
are NOT built on truth,
yet, many of your scholarly people,
believe they know truth.

do they ???

or, do they NOT ???

This current information age,
is also one, where secrets,
can NO longer be hidden,
this is why,
this one, and, many others,
are greatly protected,
in order, that they might
embrace, their missions/their purposes/and, their tasks

eXchange NEVER ends !!!

the choice, to do, or, NOT do - is completely, and, totally up to you

MUCH is the only thing, that can gather MORE !!!

kulkulkan
thru susan

with susan adding:
if, an elder/or any teacher-sees themselves above you
then, in our opinion, that elder/or that teacher
can NOT, NOR will, teach us, anything of value
that will aid/assist, or help us, to become more,
instead of being, less

eXchange is all about

THE MUCH of all of you,
that can gather MORE for all of you
and, done in ways,
that, your energy,
is your light,
done always with integrity,
so iT eXpresses, in the highest form of truth,
as, that iS love !!!

eXchanged with others,
in the same MUCH GATHERS MORE principle !!!
both parties, rising in consciousness

that is, to truly embrace LOVE !!!

[ojibway]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

a belief, is NOT always a truth

kulkulkan
thru susan

Yes, this I know. Not to many moon's ago, I began to understand what my belief was, what my truth was, what it was based on. And it turned out to be lies. Even though I have many more miles to go, at least I can now try to understand what it is that I believe. Instead of going through life and telling myself that I know the truth, instead of lying to myself, I can now say "self' is what you believe the truth? instead of the "truth is what I believe". No more absolutes.