Just saw Avatar

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

James Cameron made a film about Ayahausca, Ecology, needless wars, and oil. I just saw it on the UKs biggest IMAX 3D screen. Its made my jaw drop.

The joining of human and plant consiousness is what happens when you have ayahausca. Just like the Na'Vi do when they join with the plants. The common short term for Ayahausca is Aya. The Na'Vi god is called Iywa. Another name of the Ayahausca vine is Vine of the soul. The tree in Avatar is the tree of souls. The inside of the tree is a double helix just like the Ayahuasca vine. James cameron has done his research.

You MUST see this on the biggest screen you can and you MUST SEE IT IN 3D!!!

[lightnoise]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

James Cameron made a film about Ayahausca, Ecology, needless wars, and oil. I just saw it on the UKs biggest IMAX 3D screen. Its made my jaw drop.

The joining of human and plant consiousness is what happens when you have ayahausca. Just like the Na'Vi do when they join with the plants. The common short term for Ayahausca is Aya. The Na'Vi god is called Iywa. Another name of the Ayahausca vine is Vine of the soul. The tree in Avatar is the tree of souls. The inside of the tree is a double helix just like the Ayahuasca vine. James cameron has done his research.

You MUST see this on the biggest screen you can and you MUST SEE IT IN 3D!!!

Yeah he seems to know alot - very interesting choice of "tall blue's" as they are one of the much less known & talked about species.

[swordsmith]

also their god/goddess is aywah/ yahway, anyway it all works for me. What's not to like? and I don't say that very often. fughedabout the mind control subliminal stuff that may be there, it shouldn't be a problem for people who chose to be here. The only stuff that slightly rang false was a tiny bit one world hoodoo/lionking-ish . Not a problem. Only two bits of that IMO.
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[daci]

It may be interesting to note, that a channel named Adronis (Brad Johnson channeling Adronis) mentions in one of his presentations that 'Avatar planet and people' really exist about 50 light years from our solar system.
Seems that James Cameron got his inspiration for Avatar from actual reality in the universe...

You can watch Adronis's presentation here;
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3706379
At about 1 hr 5 minutes Avatar movie is mentioned.

[burgundia]

Vatican has just criticized the movie, mainly the plot.....

[Echo6]

Originally Posted by daci

It may be interesting to note, that a channel named Adronis (Brad Johnson channeling Adronis) mentions in one of his presentations that 'Avatar planet and people' really exist about 50 light years from our solar system.
Seems that James Cameron got his inspiration for Avatar from actual reality in the universe...

You can watch Adronis's presentation here;
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3706379
At about 1 hr 5 minutes Avatar movie is mentioned.

I have heard a few rumours around the place of something similar, although the original source is not channelled material. That being said, I have no idea as to the veracity of the rumour. Quite possibly false.

[rockdiamond]

Hello, watched the movie.. lots of hidden / underlying messages (need to watch again) -few things:

-What's with this theme of rebuilding from a great sacrifice? (all the dead blues)
-Genetic engineering can be fun?
-Can't remember if the mining executive dude got what was coming to him
-Unobtainium? WTF?

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by rockdiamond

Hello, watched the movie.. lots of hidden / underlying messages (need to watch again) -few things:

-What's with this theme of rebuilding from a great sacrifice? (all the dead blues)
-Genetic engineering can be fun?
-Can't remember if the mining executive dude got what was coming to him
-Unobtainium? WTF?

i dont think anything was very "hidden"
well, the heroes of the story are the na'vi and they certainly werent doing any genetic engeneering.

-they didnt rebuild they moved to a different part of the forest. (and even if they did i dont see what your getting at, this is all historical allegory)

-giovanni ribisi's character (the corporate douchbag) got booted back to the future wasteland earth witht the rest of the corporate/military folk.

-unobtanium is just a goofy name for a mineral and a play on "unobtainable" to me i took it as the corporate/military/imperialists/humans/us are looking for another resource that can fuel their biological stupidity and that it is "unobtainable"

i find myself defending this movie a lot when people call it hypocritical for having anti technology themes yet uses and advances the latest technology to say it (my analogy is if a train is headed toward a brick wall, do you tell the passengers to pull the brakes going cart to cart person to person, or do you get on the PA system and announce to everyone all at once to pump the brakes)

and people looking for some covert PTB/ illuminatti messages, programming etc.

folks this story is age old, its pocahontas, dances with wolves etc etc.
stories and myths are as old as humanity and this one is connecting to people because the theme of indigeneous people in balance being overcome by "civilization" strikes a chord with people.

the reason its important is because we are out of balance as a species , tribes have lived in balance and continue to do so despite civilzations attempts to eradicate them.

if we wipe ourselves out guess who will still be here?...tribes unconnected to society and knowing how to live simply off the land and in harmony with animals/plants etc.

if atlantis was true then our first go round with civilization failed and its not unthinkable to think this time might not work either. in the long run materialism and civilization just might be biological blips on the radar where we got it wrong.

of course if their are ET's and they somehow figured out how to have tech aaaaaand be in balance with nature, then maybe we can figure it out, but so far civilization has been a bad experiment.

like jake sully says in the movie, "They're not gonna give up their home. They're not gonna make a deal. For what? A light beer, and some blue jeans? Their's nothing we have that they want."

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

-clark

[Swanny]

Trouble is I have no one to go and see it with
Anyone want to see it with me???

[lindabaker]

Aw, crud, Swan, we'd come and get ya, but we're on the wrong continent! Hmmm, what are we to do? Are there taxis available? Going solo to the movies is more fun than you might think...we do it all of the time...LB

[monique]

[QUOTE=rockdiamond;219722]Hello, watched the movie.. lots of hidden / underlying messages (need to watch again) -few things:


-Genetic engineering can be fun?


Rockdiamond, sorry my english is bad. I dont see the fun of it. I think this is the point of the film that make me feel ill, because for me - the genetic engeneering and the life of the americans in these bodies is like a walk in. Other way, the genetic engeneeering and the demand for "uranium" "to bear resemblance" to the story that zecharias sichten write in his books. Monique.

[Frank Samuel]

Henna I was a ex military man with a top secret clearance , many of us would like to talked about what we do or did. The connection that NASA has to Hollywood is historical. Do you think for one second they would go to Mars and show the general public was really up there . James Cameron was the perfect solution to hide and create an illusion. In order to do this you have to let him in on a secret but you cannot work on these projects without a clearance so I am sure the same clause apply to James like anybody else who has a top secret clearance . The reason they postponed the trip to Mars is to wait after the disclosure shock is over then the services of Mr. Cameron will no longer be needed .How long before disclosure takes place, it will take a couple of years at least. I love this movie because many veterans have done things we are ashamed of and in many ways it does justice to the way many veterans feel after they come back from war wish we could put our weapons down and disobey the orders to engage the enemy. No I will not sir.

[Leunamros]

We dont have to unite as one, for god´s sake!. Because we can´t.

****ty unoriginal script, good fx, that´s all.

[Hiram]

I now realize why the film affected me as i did. I have had some time to think on it for a number of days now.

When the main character jumps from his human body to the Alien Body, and the image of the tunnel of light comes on the screen, it looked WAY TOO FAMILIAR. In fact, I believe that this image has unlocked some previous memories I have had. Memories concerning my true nature as a being.

In another scene, Jake remarks to himself in reference to his Avatar..."Its as if that world were the real one...and this one is only a dream."

This is what is happening to many of us. Its a beautiful process realizing who you really are and why you're here.

There are many triggers in this world, and I am enchanted by this last one.

[Hiram]

Originally Posted by Leunamros

We dont have to unite as one, for god´s sake!. Because we can´t.

****ty unoriginal script, good fx, that´s all.

Patterns of simple light, in interesting forms can be quite arresting, and can invoke powerful emotions. No different than patterns of sound waves creating music evoke powerful emotions.

A compelling script...or any script at all...is not necessary for something to be breathtaking.

[Malletzky]

I saw Avatar in 3D yesterday evening with my son...and I must say, WOW !
There're definitely some messages in there...so many triggers indeed.

Two things especially...

first...the sky above Pandora...it looks so familiar...I don't know why, but I seem to have seen this (or something pretty similar) somewhere. But where exactly?

second...and I had to think more about this...there's a scene where Jake, recording for his blog, says that he can't remember any more about the last few months...about what happened in his "normal", as a human being life!

This made me think...about the seeming realities...what's real, what's not.
This made me think of the possibility that what he experienced as being Na'vi, actually IS the real state of being for us, the humans. This is what we trully are (or should be)...or at least, there are some components there of our REAL existence.

And that yes, being a human, it's only a dream, a really bad dream...

malletzky

p.s. by the way, it's realy worth the money...and I consider to take another view...as you just can't perceive everything by seeing it once...

Saw the move...xpand...etc...

nothing special to be truly honest

the story is boring and predictable, the CGI is nice...

but the movie does have a point - about brave white monkey...trying do do whatever it takes in the name of corporate interest..and it also has a spiritual part (all nature inter connected together with beings on that moon...all is energy, energy is one..one is all...etc)

we can now only hope that the more human animals see the movie...and go...ohh uhh how pretty etc....the more might get what the movie is showing...

which is basically...the whole Africa for example...

and also the movie "accidentally" happens to be here together with the "save the planet" campaign by the globalists

but I am afraid that it will stay at the...ooo how pretty ....and nothing else


side note: the movie (stereoscopic projection + goggles) was not gentle to my eyes, my eyes are still "tired" after 2 days... i wonder how that influenced my brain...that usually determines x,y,z naturally in an instant...and now the "fake" 3d...

[Pennelp]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

hey folks,

im native and i dont go to see too many movies....

but i am considering taking my daughter to see this movie because of the dynamic between oppressors and indigenous culture.

i would ****** off to no end if i took her and it turned out to be another dances with wolves type ******** where the oppressors win out and "oh the poor natives have to go off hiding" or whatever.

please tell that the blue people win.

i dont mind spoilers so if you could PM me thatd be swell.

This film had many msg's to convey.

Love transcends between people and culture
Consciousness. we are all one .Everything is energy .
Respect and love for all things living,our heritage
Depicts the humans going in and thinking they can take over and destroy what they like in the name of $$ . Having no respect for life ,culture, fauna,flora
And many subliminal msg's to.
A Bush quote .The commanding officer states against the poor innocent indigenous tribe 'We will fight terror with terror" (taking the **** out of Bush's quote )


(and yes the indigenous win)
Magnificent film..People were clapping at the end..and people were seriously moved ..
I've been twice and will go a third and fourth time... this film will be forever in my heart..

[Jacqui D]

This is out today or tomorrow here i have been waiting to see this one for ages. Sounds very good the story line is very feasible i feel, didn't see the 2012 film i guess i didn't want to get sucked in to the whole scenario not saying it won't happen but and that's a big BUT!
Just want to ask do you have to see this in 3D do all cinemas cater for 3D if not i have a feeling my one will not be viewing it this way.

[Swanny]

Did you notice the subliminal messaging???

[kriya]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

This is out today or tomorrow here i have been waiting to see this one for ages. Sounds very good the story line is very feasible i feel, didn't see the 2012 film i guess i didn't want to get sucked in to the whole scenario not saying it won't happen but and that's a big BUT!
Just want to ask do you have to see this in 3D do all cinemas cater for 3D if not i have a feeling my one will not be viewing it this way.

Most cinemas' have 3D screenings. Have you got a VUE or Odeon nearby? They'll have it. I think it's best to see it on a huge screen, maybe the IMAX, but they give me motion sickness.

And no it's showing in 2D too.

Will see it at the weekend in 3D.

[futureyes]

avatar opens here this weekend ... i am eager to go see it ... from all i read and what others have written here the special effects are worth going ...

thanks for the 3d heads up ... that's the route i'll take ...


oh ... and welcome pennelp ...

[Soulcrafter]

Looks very plastic fantastic.

[vril]

The basic message I got was that humans are pretty greedy , selfish and mean. Although some of us can be pleasant to our neighbours when given a chance to get to know them.
I was expecting a very overt green message from the film, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be in that respect.
The message is certainly there, it also has a very Manga flavour to it in regards to the aboriginals connection to their earth through their spirit. This is explained in a convoluted way that I didn't really understand, I have a feeling the James Cameron didn't either.
All said and done the film was entertaining.
The story was not boring and I found the long play time of around 2 hours 40 minutes went by very quickly.
The FX are certainly taken to the next level in this film, the monition capture technology they used has really made a huge leap that adds a great deal of realism to the digital characters, their integration with real world footage is totally seamless, I was completely taken in by the digital characters, they convey an emotion and realism I have never before seen achieved with motion capture data and digital assets. The facial gestures are so closely matched to the actors portrayals it's as if your watching real flesh and blood beings. I certainly connected emotionally with the characters in this film and I did so straight away, that is a huge achievement in regards to this type of film making. Its only ever been done once before and that was with Gollum from LOTR. No surprise its Peter Jacksons WETA digital that achieved this breakthrough for Avatar.
I think the Alien world is incredibly done also, from the florescence that seems to purvey almost everything on the planet, the forest, plants and animals are all amazingly realised.
They truly capture a unique take on what an alien world could be like.

[wolfman]

Originally Posted by vril

One of the best films I have seen in ages.
Highly recommend seeing it in 3D if you can afford it.
The special effects are mind blowing, never seen anything quite like it.
Didn't mind the story either.


Cant seem to reply to threads atm?
So im going to reply here just once.

The story is fairly predictable. It was better than I expected though.
I have to admit I'm more interested in the FX when I see a film like this.
If you enjoy great special effects it worth checking out on the big screen.
It's better than 2012, though that's not saying much I guess

I just saw it tonight and it was wonderful in 3D. What impress me was the ability to connect to monther nature thru their hair, how tall they were compared to the humans.

The other thing i noticed was the Humans that was doing the destruction of another species because the humans wanted some 'rock'.

This show is worth a 2nd time viewing.