The United States of the Solar System - Page 3

orthodoxymoron · 11-01-2009, 09:47 PM

We 'pale faces' acted as though the Native Americans didn't own anything. Native Homeland Security has been doing a lousy job since 1492. Is the concept of private property a bad concept? Is working for just compensation a bad concept? Is communism a good concept? Should a lazy and stupid person live just as well as a hard working and wise person?

TheObserver · 11-01-2009, 10:07 PM

I do wish for egalitarianism or at least a good shaving off of the extremes on both ends.
And in the end no one really owns anything in the "you can't take it with you when you die" sense.
I'll be first to admit i may be stupid and lazy but i am also human.
It's impossible for everybody to be equally good at capitalism,
so i see it as a system imposed on the majority by the minority that are good at it.

orthodoxymoron · 11-01-2009, 10:15 PM

My economic ideal is a stratified middle class...without extreme poverty or extreme wealth. If capitalism were truly responsible and well refereed...I think this would be the case. Corrupt and irresponsible capitalism is killing us. Baseball and football games have rules and referees. Why does capitalism always seem like the wild, wild west...dominated by outlaws? Where's the damn sheriff? Oh I forgot...he got paid-off.

TheObserver · 11-01-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

My economic ideal is a stratified middle class...without extreme poverty or extreme wealth. If capitalism were truly responsible and well refereed...I think this would be the case. Corrupt and irresponsible capitalism is killing us. Baseball and football games have rules and referees. Why does capitalism always seem like the wild, wild west...dominated by outlaws? Where's the damn sheriff? Oh I forgot...he got paid-off.

I and a lot of people could live with that!! Cheers to ya!!

orthodoxymoron · 11-04-2009, 09:30 PM

I'm liking the concept of the first post more and more...even if there are no aliens. I'm actually going to try to back away from the alien/spirit stuff for awhile...and concentrate on business and world news. I've started watching Bloomberg and BBC...and I'm reading the Wall Street Journal again. These are important sources to consider if we really want a non-corrupt, non-theocratic united world. I don't want to be alarmist or paranoid. I just want to be a productive part of a responsible, peaceful, and free humanity.

Namaste

orthodoxymoron · 11-05-2009, 08:53 PM

I will continue to issue a challenge regarding determinining who really owns the Solar System...who really is in charge...and regarding the best form of governance. These are very, very important issues...yet few seem to care.

orthodoxymoron · 11-07-2009, 01:05 AM

Jordan Maxwell may be right...judging from the participation on this thread. You know what I'm talking about.

orthodoxymoron · 11-08-2009, 05:36 AM

class...Class...CLASS...SHUDDUP! Thank-you!

Question: When does church + state + people = a bad thing?
Answer:

Corrupt Centralized Coercive Government (Constitution Ignored!)
+ Corrupt Centralized Coercive Church (Teachings of Jesus Ignored!)
+ Oppressed Irresponsible Citizens (Constitution and Teachings of Jesus Ignored!)
= HELL ON EARTH!

Question: When does church + state + people = a good thing?
Answer:

Non-Corrupt Decentralized Minimalist Government (Constitution Followed!)
+ Non-Corrupt Decentralized Minimalist Church (Teachings of Jesus Followed!)
+ Free Responsible Citizens (Constitution and Teachings of Jesus Followed!)
= HEAVEN ON EARTH!

Do the Math!
Any Questions?
Lesson Learned?
Class Dismissed!!

TheObserver · 11-08-2009, 07:09 AM

Ya finally consolidated it! I'll buy that!

orthodoxymoron · 12-01-2009, 06:49 AM

I'm going to keep requesting rival proposals for the governance of our Solar System. This is probably the most important issue facing us...yet there seems to be very little interest. It seems to me that we are sitting-ducks for enslavement and extermination. Are we incapable of ruling ourselves? This has been suggested to me on the internet...by someone who didn't sound like they were an Earth Human. Could they be right? Please consider and discuss this important issue...and prove them wrong. Could it be that we don't even want to rule ourselves? I hope the holes at the poles are well lubricated...

Initiate · 12-01-2009, 06:53 AM

If we all end up surrendering to the divine will and living from the heart will we need government?

TheObserver · 12-01-2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Initiate

If we all end up surrendering to the divine will and living from the heart will we need government?

If corporate thinking doesn't change at the same time then yes we will.

Everything is Free! Nobody gets Paid! Follow your bliss volunteerism!
No more being marketable (like a slave)! No more unsustainable consumerism!

(this is my rallying cry, perhaps i'll add it to my signature)

TheObserver · 12-01-2009, 07:49 AM

There we go.

orthodoxymoron · 12-01-2009, 08:18 AM

An organized and rational forum for decision making (especially on the macro-level) will probably always be necessary. Perfected beings might not require government as we know it...but how many perfected beings have you seen walking around lately?

Work, money, private-property, and commerce in general...are not bad things. Corruption and Irresponsibility are bad things. It is important to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Constructive Competition is a good thing. If you don't believe in competition...then just agree with everything I say...and stop competing!

When you surrender to the divine will...make sure you are not surrendering and submitting to ET.

TheObserver · 12-01-2009, 10:08 AM

My problem with competition is some people are better at it (especially than me!)
So until capitalism throws enough money my way (my needs are quite simple, i only need to approach 30k/yr to come
out ahead and save money each month living by myself in a cheap 1 br apt) i'm gonna want some kind of Robin Hood
revenge especially from those making millions to trillions, which is totally ridiculous.
All i really want to do is write songs but you can only make money that way if it sells,
why can't the fact i wrote a song be good enough whether it sells or not?
Or can i make money as a youtube busker?
Anyway....

orthodoxymoron · 12-01-2009, 10:17 PM

I've always had a problem with competition. I'm really not very competitive. Add the mixed messages in Christianity regarding competition...and I've turned out to be one very confused dude. My attempted resolution is to dump most of Christianity...and to focus on the core principle of Responsible Freedom...which includes Constructive Competition and Positive Response Ability. I wish I had done this a long time ago.

There are a lot of artists who work at jobs which pay their rent...and then they follow their passion...whether they get paid for it or not. I play my keyboard (set to pipe-organ) at least 45 minutes a day. I don't want to work for a church at this point (mostly because of church politics and theological issues)...so instead of playing a $300,000 pipe-organ...I get to play a $300 keyboard. I improvise...and play the way I want to play. I have listened to...taken lessons from...and talked to some of the best in the business...but I have the most fun doing it my way. I still want to hear Lucifer improvise at Saint Sulpice in Paris...after this Solar System mess gets cleaned up. I'm very serious about this. This isn't a sarcastic joke.

Try watching Bloomberg or CNBC...and try reading the Wall Street Journal. Seriously. This can help to provide a better perspective on money and commerce. Starving artists should not be anti-capitalist. This could help to explain why they are starving. Seriously. But I do agree that when someone makes 3 billion dollars in one year in the market...that is obscene...especially if they don't pump most of this money into worthy charities.

Regarding governance...I am pro-minimalism and anti-corruption...but a certain amount of organization is necessary to pull this off.

beren · 12-01-2009, 10:22 PM

I've always had a problem with competition[CODE]

Competition in this world mostly brings envious spirits which later give birth to greed and many evil thereafter.

On the other hand divine competition is entirely different since every soul is encouraged to give its best talent ,to show its light before creator and hence fore be a part of magnificence.

Gnosis5 · 12-01-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beren

I've always had a problem with competition[CODE]

Competition in this world mostly brings envious spirits which later give birth to greed and many evil thereafter.

On the other hand divine competition is entirely different since every soul is encouraged to give its best talent ,to show its light before creator and hence fore be a part of magnificence.

My dog (cockerpoo) really understands competition: he and his cousin (cavalier king charles) happily compete all day long with each other, and then at night they curl up together :-)

TheObserver · 12-01-2009, 10:40 PM

Ortho you'd be jealous of a couple friends of mine whose business is organ tuning/repair, they work on organs and to test their
work they have to play them, and they avoid the theopolitics (is that a word, well it is now) however the downside
(besides dead birds and mice found in the pipe chambers) is the
travel involved since they cover the 5 state area of MN, WI, IA and the 2 Dakotas at minimum.

orthodoxymoron · 12-02-2009, 02:22 AM

I have gone to various sites with an organ repair person...and I watched a huge organ be constructed. People were whispering about the erection of the organist's organ in church!

The dogs have it exactly right. They love each other while they're playing and fighting with each other. Competition is game-playing...which is an important part of life. This is what gives life much of it's meaning. We have to keep testing ourselves and each other. This defines who we are.

Tangentially...at the front of the U.S. Senate Chambers there is 'In God We Trust' (front and center) and fascist symbols (left and right). Is this representative of the hypothetical Zionist/Pleiadian/Theocratic/Sirius A and Teutonic Zionist/Aldebaran/Luciferian/Sirius B factions which battle for the heart and soul of this world? I'm thinking that both factions (if they exist) use Interdimensional Reptilians (if they exist)...and that Interdimensional Reptilians use both factions. Could all of the above be hopelessly out of control? Could this madness get everyone killed? I'm thinking that this is a very, very ancient and very, very bitter conflict...and that everyone involved has lots and lots of baggage...and that it could involve all of us. Perhaps it is just as well that we don't remember our past lives...which could go back millions or even billions of years.

Why wouldn't the proposal in the first post be workable to all sides? Is the hatred too deep? What are the real issues? I think I know some of them...but not all of them. I'm sure each side has it's legitimate grievances and aspirations...but will there be anything left when one side is finally triumphantly victorious? I'm seeing an inappropriate rebellion (Luciferian Human/Reptilian?) against an inexcusable wrong (Human/Reptilian Theocracy?)...creating millions of years of horrors and atrocities (War in Heaven and Earth?). When is enough...enough?

Gnosis5 · 12-02-2009, 03:59 AM

What I am getting is that the original split was within ourself and somehow an imbalance came about between "to be" and "to not be" and then a fixedness and inability to blend or merge, and all dichotomies can trace their genology back to this Prime Polarity.

Don't take me literally on this as I'm just stating what I'm seeing at this point in my self-realization work, but 3 sessions from now I may find an even more basic Prime Polarity, or a twin Prime Polarity.

The furtherest back in "time" for me was several quadrillion years, no kidding, and when I went back before time I had to measure it in terms of where it was in relation to when time began for me and when I first separated from the Static. For example, an incident was dated at 45% before time.

If you can think abstractly for a moment almost all conflicts are a working out of the "to be" and "to not be" dichotomy. There are processes that help one resolve this irresolution other than "spanking the dog".

cheers!
gnosis

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I have gone to various sites with an organ repair person...and I watched a huge organ be constructed. People were whispering about the erection of the organist's organ in church!

The dogs have it exactly right. They love each other while they're playing and fighting with each other. Competition is game-playing...which is an important part of life. This is what gives life much of it's meaning. We have to keep testing ourselves and each other. This defines who we are.

Tangentially...at the front of the U.S. Senate Chambers there is 'In God We Trust' (front and center) and fascist symbols (left and right). Is this representative of the hypothetical Zionist/Pleiadian/Theocratic/Sirius A and Teutonic Zionist/Aldebaran/Luciferian/Sirius B factions which battle for the heart and soul of this world? I'm thinking that both factions (if they exist) use Interdimensional Reptilians (if they exist)...and that Interdimensional Reptilians use both factions. Could all of the above be hopelessly out of control? Could this madness get everyone killed? I'm thinking that this is a very, very ancient and very, very bitter conflict...and that everyone involved has lots and lots of baggage...and that it could involve all of us. Perhaps it is just as well that we don't remember our past lives...which could go back millions or even billions of years.

Why wouldn't the proposal in the first post be workable to all sides? Is the hatred too deep? What are the real issues? I think I know some of them...but not all of them. I'm sure each side has it's legitimate grievances and aspirations...but will there be anything left when one side is finally triumphantly victorious? I'm seeing an inappropriate rebellion (Luciferian Human/Reptilian?) against an inexcusable wrong (Human/Reptilian Theocracy?)...creating millions of years of horrors and atrocities (War in Heaven and Earth?). When is enough...enough?

orthodoxymoron · 12-02-2009, 04:54 AM

Gnosis5...you are involved in things I wouldn't touch with a 10 meter pole. I admire you...in one sense...but I don't trust the supernatural realm (internally or externally)...especially considering our current state of psychological/ethical/spiritual development...or lack thereof. I worry about entering a Reptilian Disneyland of the Wannabe Gods when delving into the inner and outer realms.

Some people spank something other than their dog...to achieve resolution.

Gnosis5 · 12-02-2009, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Gnosis5...you are involved in things I wouldn't touch with a 10 meter pole. I admire you...in one sense...but I don't trust the supernatural realm (internally or externally)...especially considering our current state of psychological/ethical/spiritual development...or lack thereof. I worry about entering a Reptilian Disneyland of the Wannabe Gods when delving into the inner and outer realms.

Some people spank something other than their dog...to achieve resolution.

It is the same reported path the Buddha took to achieve Nirvana, and then he taught many of his family and friends and as far as I know -- no one got hurt :-)

cheers!
gnosis

orthodoxymoron · 12-03-2009, 06:11 AM

This path to Nirvana could lead to spiritual blindness.

Seriously...are there any supporters or opponents of the first post of this thread? The silence is deafening.

Gnosis5 · 12-03-2009, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

This path to Nirvana could lead to spiritual blindness.

Seriously...are there any supporters or opponents of the first post of this thread? The silence is deafening.

I thought it was mental mast______tion that does that, lol

cheers!
gnosis

11-01-2009, 09:47 PM	#1
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System We 'pale faces' acted as though the Native Americans didn't own anything. Native Homeland Security has been doing a lousy job since 1492. Is the concept of private property a bad concept? Is working for just compensation a bad concept? Is communism a good concept? Should a lazy and stupid person live just as well as a hard working and wise person?

11-01-2009, 10:07 PM	#2
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The United States of the Solar System I do wish for egalitarianism or at least a good shaving off of the extremes on both ends. And in the end no one really owns anything in the "you can't take it with you when you die" sense. I'll be first to admit i may be stupid and lazy but i am also human. It's impossible for everybody to be equally good at capitalism, so i see it as a system imposed on the majority by the minority that are good at it.

11-01-2009, 10:15 PM	#3
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System My economic ideal is a stratified middle class...without extreme poverty or extreme wealth. If capitalism were truly responsible and well refereed...I think this would be the case. Corrupt and irresponsible capitalism is killing us. Baseball and football games have rules and referees. Why does capitalism always seem like the wild, wild west...dominated by outlaws? Where's the damn sheriff? Oh I forgot...he got paid-off.

11-04-2009, 09:30 PM	#5
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System I'm liking the concept of the first post more and more...even if there are no aliens. I'm actually going to try to back away from the alien/spirit stuff for awhile...and concentrate on business and world news. I've started watching Bloomberg and BBC...and I'm reading the Wall Street Journal again. These are important sources to consider if we really want a non-corrupt, non-theocratic united world. I don't want to be alarmist or paranoid. I just want to be a productive part of a responsible, peaceful, and free humanity. Namaste

11-05-2009, 08:53 PM	#6
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System I will continue to issue a challenge regarding determinining who really owns the Solar System...who really is in charge...and regarding the best form of governance. These are very, very important issues...yet few seem to care.

11-07-2009, 01:05 AM	#7
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System Jordan Maxwell may be right...judging from the participation on this thread. You know what I'm talking about.

11-08-2009, 05:36 AM	#8
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System class...Class...CLASS...SHUDDUP! Thank-you! Question: When does church + state + people = a bad thing? Answer: Corrupt Centralized Coercive Government (Constitution Ignored!) + Corrupt Centralized Coercive Church (Teachings of Jesus Ignored!) + Oppressed Irresponsible Citizens (Constitution and Teachings of Jesus Ignored!) = HELL ON EARTH! Question: When does church + state + people = a good thing? Answer: Non-Corrupt Decentralized Minimalist Government (Constitution Followed!) + Non-Corrupt Decentralized Minimalist Church (Teachings of Jesus Followed!) + Free Responsible Citizens (Constitution and Teachings of Jesus Followed!) = HEAVEN ON EARTH! Do the Math! Any Questions? Lesson Learned? Class Dismissed!! Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 11-27-2009 at 10:53 PM.

11-08-2009, 07:09 AM	#9
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The United States of the Solar System Ya finally consolidated it! I'll buy that!

12-01-2009, 06:49 AM	#10
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System I'm going to keep requesting rival proposals for the governance of our Solar System. This is probably the most important issue facing us...yet there seems to be very little interest. It seems to me that we are sitting-ducks for enslavement and extermination. Are we incapable of ruling ourselves? This has been suggested to me on the internet...by someone who didn't sound like they were an Earth Human. Could they be right? Please consider and discuss this important issue...and prove them wrong. Could it be that we don't even want to rule ourselves? I hope the holes at the poles are well lubricated... Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-01-2009 at 07:12 AM.

12-01-2009, 06:53 AM	#11
Initiate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 391	Re: The United States of the Solar System If we all end up surrendering to the divine will and living from the heart will we need government?

12-01-2009, 07:49 AM	#13
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The United States of the Solar System There we go.

12-01-2009, 08:18 AM	#14
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System An organized and rational forum for decision making (especially on the macro-level) will probably always be necessary. Perfected beings might not require government as we know it...but how many perfected beings have you seen walking around lately? Work, money, private-property, and commerce in general...are not bad things. Corruption and Irresponsibility are bad things. It is important to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Constructive Competition is a good thing. If you don't believe in competition...then just agree with everything I say...and stop competing! When you surrender to the divine will...make sure you are not surrendering and submitting to ET. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-01-2009 at 08:22 AM.

12-01-2009, 10:08 AM	#15
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The United States of the Solar System My problem with competition is some people are better at it (especially than me!) So until capitalism throws enough money my way (my needs are quite simple, i only need to approach 30k/yr to come out ahead and save money each month living by myself in a cheap 1 br apt) i'm gonna want some kind of Robin Hood revenge especially from those making millions to trillions, which is totally ridiculous. All i really want to do is write songs but you can only make money that way if it sells, why can't the fact i wrote a song be good enough whether it sells or not? Or can i make money as a youtube busker? Anyway....

12-01-2009, 10:17 PM	#16
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System I've always had a problem with competition. I'm really not very competitive. Add the mixed messages in Christianity regarding competition...and I've turned out to be one very confused dude. My attempted resolution is to dump most of Christianity...and to focus on the core principle of Responsible Freedom...which includes Constructive Competition and Positive Response Ability. I wish I had done this a long time ago. There are a lot of artists who work at jobs which pay their rent...and then they follow their passion...whether they get paid for it or not. I play my keyboard (set to pipe-organ) at least 45 minutes a day. I don't want to work for a church at this point (mostly because of church politics and theological issues)...so instead of playing a $300,000 pipe-organ...I get to play a $300 keyboard. I improvise...and play the way I want to play. I have listened to...taken lessons from...and talked to some of the best in the business...but I have the most fun doing it my way. I still want to hear Lucifer improvise at Saint Sulpice in Paris...after this Solar System mess gets cleaned up. I'm very serious about this. This isn't a sarcastic joke. Try watching Bloomberg or CNBC...and try reading the Wall Street Journal. Seriously. This can help to provide a better perspective on money and commerce. Starving artists should not be anti-capitalist. This could help to explain why they are starving. Seriously. But I do agree that when someone makes 3 billion dollars in one year in the market...that is obscene...especially if they don't pump most of this money into worthy charities. Regarding governance...I am pro-minimalism and anti-corruption...but a certain amount of organization is necessary to pull this off. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-01-2009 at 10:27 PM.

12-01-2009, 10:22 PM	#17
beren Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgrade,Serbia Posts: 508	Re: The United States of the Solar System I've always had a problem with competition[CODE] Competition in this world mostly brings envious spirits which later give birth to greed and many evil thereafter. On the other hand divine competition is entirely different since every soul is encouraged to give its best talent ,to show its light before creator and hence fore be a part of magnificence.

12-01-2009, 10:40 PM	#19
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The United States of the Solar System Ortho you'd be jealous of a couple friends of mine whose business is organ tuning/repair, they work on organs and to test their work they have to play them, and they avoid the theopolitics (is that a word, well it is now) however the downside (besides dead birds and mice found in the pipe chambers) is the travel involved since they cover the 5 state area of MN, WI, IA and the 2 Dakotas at minimum.

12-02-2009, 02:22 AM	#20
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System I have gone to various sites with an organ repair person...and I watched a huge organ be constructed. People were whispering about the erection of the organist's organ in church! The dogs have it exactly right. They love each other while they're playing and fighting with each other. Competition is game-playing...which is an important part of life. This is what gives life much of it's meaning. We have to keep testing ourselves and each other. This defines who we are. Tangentially...at the front of the U.S. Senate Chambers there is 'In God We Trust' (front and center) and fascist symbols (left and right). Is this representative of the hypothetical Zionist/Pleiadian/Theocratic/Sirius A and Teutonic Zionist/Aldebaran/Luciferian/Sirius B factions which battle for the heart and soul of this world? I'm thinking that both factions (if they exist) use Interdimensional Reptilians (if they exist)...and that Interdimensional Reptilians use both factions. Could all of the above be hopelessly out of control? Could this madness get everyone killed? I'm thinking that this is a very, very ancient and very, very bitter conflict...and that everyone involved has lots and lots of baggage...and that it could involve all of us. Perhaps it is just as well that we don't remember our past lives...which could go back millions or even billions of years. Why wouldn't the proposal in the first post be workable to all sides? Is the hatred too deep? What are the real issues? I think I know some of them...but not all of them. I'm sure each side has it's legitimate grievances and aspirations...but will there be anything left when one side is finally triumphantly victorious? I'm seeing an inappropriate rebellion (Luciferian Human/Reptilian?) against an inexcusable wrong (Human/Reptilian Theocracy?)...creating millions of years of horrors and atrocities (War in Heaven and Earth?). When is enough...enough? Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-02-2009 at 02:31 AM.

12-02-2009, 04:54 AM	#22
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System Gnosis5...you are involved in things I wouldn't touch with a 10 meter pole. I admire you...in one sense...but I don't trust the supernatural realm (internally or externally)...especially considering our current state of psychological/ethical/spiritual development...or lack thereof. I worry about entering a Reptilian Disneyland of the Wannabe Gods when delving into the inner and outer realms. Some people spank something other than their dog...to achieve resolution.

12-03-2009, 06:11 AM	#24
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: The United States of the Solar System This path to Nirvana could lead to spiritual blindness. Seriously...are there any supporters or opponents of the first post of this thread? The silence is deafening.