UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera - Page 2

Czymra · 12-19-2008, 02:51 PM

This IS insane. I have an IR camera and will go out there to check this out. Why doesn't anybody ever use a tripod though?

Also, will SONY IR doe the job? Are there more details about the IR used? I know SONY filtered out some frequencies so that you can't 'look through those swimming suits' .

Antaletriangle · 12-19-2008, 02:54 PM

Thanks mercurie;-i've seen the whole interview with grimsley i think he started off with Amateur radio interceptions on a NASA closed channel?

Antaletriangle · 12-19-2008, 02:58 PM

Czymra there is footage also knocking about taken in daylight where a guy sets up two cameras side by side focused on the same part of the sky- one infra the other visible light-it's crazy on the infra camera you see a metallic sphere hovering and on the visible there is absolutely nothing just sky!!I don't recall the name of the video though-apologies.

Mercuriel · 12-19-2008, 03:23 PM

Well - I'm not sure where Grimsley got the idea or began His investigations (STS-75 ?) but He was the first Person that gave Me the Idea for the FLIR Goggles when looking for UFOs...

Then - When I found out much to My disdain that I couldn't get a pair being a Canadian (I mean other than GEN1) - I bought a Sony HandyCam with IR but have been unable to capture footage like what Grimsley has captured. I'm still working on how to adjust it so I can get some good footage if possible. Any suggestions on that are INDEED welcome...

Czymra · 12-19-2008, 04:57 PM

Well, I think you'll have to get some old camera or another model then. I have the feeling that Sony removed those frequencies rather due to THAT reason than the 'x ray effect'.

How curious!

There is this German guy who could get access to the firmware of the HC1 and could do certain readouts and changes, however as every lens is differently balanced by its software configurations, messing around in those setting without having a dozen other reference cameras seems to be more destructive than anything else.

I'm a video maker and I think that you have to be very specific about the camera because there is so much modification going on in those prosumer and consumer cameras that you can't trust them on these accounts.

Can you guys fill me in on those two things:

1. I know that night goggles are a mixture of what I only know in German as 'rest light amplifier' and the infra red. Do they use a special filter to just view IR and combine the signal with the amplified light or do they add the ir spectrum above the normal one?

2. I have read some articles on an IR filter, so that your camera only receives the IR frequencies instead of the normal ones. This might be a way of getting the camera do to the real thing without using proprietary modes.

I think I have to read up on the IR thing. I don't quite get the difference between the 'warmth pictures' and this IR. I always though it was the same.
Anyway, even with the built in IR on my cam some colours are completely opposite, i.e. black turns to white/grey. I'm not sure what frequencies are observed here as it doesn't seem like colour temperature. Does anybody have a theory as to why these objects are visible with IR? Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?

Mercuriel · 12-19-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Czymra

Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?

Personally - I think that what You are saying is actually the case. The Ships being seen are in a different Light Spectrum / Dimension than what We can normally view due to the High Frequency of their Onboard Power Systems.

Appparently as Frequency of the Power Source increases - Gravity decreases for the Ship carrying the High Frequency Power Source. This would allow Interstellar Travel much more easily than what standard Models predict, and could allow almost Instantaneous travel for a Ship powered in such a way.

Antaletriangle · 12-19-2008, 06:45 PM

Yeah i viewed the grimsley vid a while ago-he used amateur radio i think on a secret NASA frequency to get some info.?

Dantheman62 · 12-20-2008, 03:28 AM

After watching Ed Grimsley's video I was wondering, if these things are fighting up there, first of all why? why aren't they fighting in outerspace where they have all kinds of room to fight? why are they fighting here where we can see them?, and if they are shooting each other and these guys (grimsley) say they can see explosions, then where are all the parts and pieces? why aren't all these pieces falling to the ground if it's happening all the time, like grimsley says it is.

stiros · 12-20-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antaletriangle

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...vision_Camera/

Wild footage.Very strange stuff here.It's as if a cosmic engagement is occurring or some sort of battle very striking footage in my opinion!You have scale,movement, focuses in and out to show the vicinity; there are power lines in front etc.

It looks like “weather balloons reflected in layers of swamp gas”.
Just kidding!!!
stiros

Mercuriel · 12-20-2008, 09:26 PM

I will try and offer some explanations here...

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

After watching Ed Grimsley's video I was wondering, if these things are fighting up there, first of all why?

The reason for this is one of the following conditions or combinations of them in collusion.

1. Two Parties are fighting over the Earth's Resources.
2. Two Parties are fighting over Us as a Species.
3. Two Parties are Fighting over Our Souls.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

why aren't they fighting in outerspace where they have all kinds of room to fight? why are they fighting here where we can see them?

There is no one left to Fight in this Quadrant at least outside of Earth's Atmosphere. The Quadrant has been cleared and the remnants of the Cabal(s) and Their Friends (Neg ETs) are using Earth and It's Bases as a last Refuge. That said - In order to end the Conflict once and for all - The Renegades and Rebels are being chased down in Earth's Atmosphere as this is the last place They have to run to.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

If they are shooting each other and these guys (grimsley) say they can see explosions, then where are all the parts and pieces? why aren't all these pieces falling to the ground if it's happening all the time, like grimsley says it is.

From Zero Point/Static Field Physics - Electrons that are excited will remain in that State until They are decelerated by something else. Due to the Torque generated by the 5th D against the 4th D in Their power systems, this means that as soon as one of these Craft is destroyed - The Electrons of not only the Power System but of the Structure are either decelerated to 3rd D and fall to the Earth - Or - They might remain in a High Energy State and remain in the 4th/5th D due to their composition - Again while falling to the Earth.

There is a Video that I will link later that will show You that there is definately debris falling to Earth from a destroyed Ship, but when the IR Filter is shut off, the Object and It's debris stream dissappear. Turn on the IR Filter and there they are again falling to Earth. This seems to suggest to Me that while They can definately be destroyed - The Materials that They are using have unusual properties compared to what We are used to in the 3rd D. This is likely due to their construction and manufacture being completed in a Higher Vibration/Reality (4th or 5th D).

Please understand - This is only conjecture - But with that said it is wholly possible as well.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth My Dear Horatio than are dreamt of in Your Philosophy..."

Dantheman62 · 12-20-2008, 09:59 PM

I'm impressed, thanks, I understand it's only conjecture but good points and highly plausible! hmmm......

Humble Janitor · 12-21-2008, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

After watching Ed Grimsley's video I was wondering, if these things are fighting up there, first of all why? why aren't they fighting in outerspace where they have all kinds of room to fight? why are they fighting here where we can see them?, and if they are shooting each other and these guys (grimsley) say they can see explosions, then where are all the parts and pieces? why aren't all these pieces falling to the ground if it's happening all the time, like grimsley says it is.

Is it possible that when ships are destroyed, everything is vaporized, including every single part and other proof of explosion?

Mercuriel · 12-21-2008, 02:59 AM

As I mentioned above - Here is some very similar footage in that this piece is also filmed with a Camera that has IR. This DOES show debris falling to Earth from the destruction of a Craft...

Enjoy...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-CewH99F0K0

J_rod7 · 12-21-2008, 04:36 AM

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WOW - Space Craft engaged in BATTLE above Earth.

Gotta wonder - Who are they? Why the battle? Fighting over US? Fighting FOR us?

The most memorable sighting I've had was about 7-weeks ago...

Sitting outside my house around 2:00 AM watching for meteors, I saw coming from the South a LARGE Triangle-shaped craft, moving VERY fast. The two sides to the front 'point' longer than the trailing edge, and dim red lights along all the edges that I could see. My estimate is the craft was at about 7000 - 8000 foot elevation, flew past me going due North about 60 - 65 degrees above the horizon, going maybe 4000 MPH. Out of sight through a clear night sky in less than ~5 seconds. The spooky part - I expected to hear a LOUD Sonic BOOM, but NOTHING, no sound whatsoever; perhaps isolated by some type of unseen 'field.'

Things are really 'heating up' here with Cosmic Visitors.

Thanks for sharing...

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J_rod7 · 12-21-2008, 05:17 AM

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Hi Czymra,
You asked: "I'm not sure what frequencies are observed here as it doesn't seem like colour temperature. Does anybody have a theory as to why these objects are visible with IR? Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?"

Consider the Spectrum of light frequencies. Violet/Blue is the highest frequency in the visible spectrum. Higher frequencies move up into the Ultra-Violet and beyond (all the way up through X-Rays, Gamma-Rays &c). Higher frequencies are Shorter in Wavelength, so more Energy per unit of time.

At the lowest end of frequency in the visible spectrum is Red, longer wavelength. Below visible Red is Infrared, and increasingly lower and lower frequencies dropping down into Radio-bands, &c, down into Audible ranges, &c. The Frequencies in the Infrared also correspond to levels of HEAT, so Infrared picks up the Heat signatures better than visual frequencies. The 'best' Infrared detectors are COLD, even super-cooled with liquid Helium. But I wouldn't advise messing around with Liquid Helium, or detectors which require it.

Also, to add here, Most advanced-technology Interstellar Space-Craft have 'Cloaking Fields' specifically to avoid visible observation. Such Cloaking Fields do not seem to be calibrated to preclude the Infrared.

Namaste

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Czymra · 12-21-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by J_rod7

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Hi Czymra,
You asked: "I'm not sure what frequencies are observed here as it doesn't seem like colour temperature. Does anybody have a theory as to why these objects are visible with IR? Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?"

Consider the Spectrum of light frequencies. Violet/Blue is the highest frequency in the visible spectrum. Higher frequencies move up into the Ultra-Violet and beyond (all the way up through X-Rays, Gamma-Rays &c). Higher frequencies are Shorter in Wavelength, so more Energy per unit of time.

At the lowest end of frequency in the visible spectrum is Red, longer wavelength. Below visible Red is Infrared, and increasingly lower and lower frequencies dropping down into Radio-bands, &c, down into Audible ranges, &c. The Frequencies in the Infrared also correspond to levels of HEAT, so Infrared picks up the Heat signatures better than visual frequencies. The 'best' Infrared detectors are COLD, even super-cooled with liquid Helium. But I wouldn't advise messing around with Liquid Helium, or detectors which require it.

Also, to add here, Most advanced-technology Interstellar Space-Craft have 'Cloaking Fields' specifically to avoid visible observation. Such Cloaking Fields do not seem to be calibrated to preclude the Infrared.

Namaste

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Thanks for that. Baggywrinkle posted some valuable information in this post as well:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...weirdest+thing

stiros · 12-21-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by J_rod7

............ Does anybody have a theory as to why these objects are visible with IR? Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?" ......

Hi J_rod7,
Very interesting, just speculations as follows:
It seems to me, that many “mechanisms” in nature follow a kind of an “octave-pattern”.
On a piano: C,D,E,F,G,A,H and then C again but it is one octave higher.
There are similarities between the first C and the second C, even though the frequency is doubled.
Maybe that is why it is seen on IR, it is an side-effect.
As I understand higher energy gives higher frequencies.
This is not what we learn in school, I am aware of that, but anyhow.
This is maybe an explanation, but we don't understand it yet.

Comments appreciated

stiros

Jack · 12-21-2008, 10:23 PM

Excelent thread!

A subject that doesnt get as much publicity as it deserves.
Ive seen loads of pics out there, a few of which were taken by a well known mexican journalist who gathered the balls to give it the publicity that could have well made him a target.

I'm not too sure if these were taken by him but they bear a striking resemblance so i'll post them anyways. And for the record, these are 100% authentic ;

We can rule out birds for this one unless their wrapping themselves up in christmas lights..

Its amazing to think that the governments still have the audacity to say that ufos dont exist.

Just posting these so we can rule out "the bird" theory.

Mercuriel · 12-21-2008, 10:29 PM

I honestly think that what is being picked up is the heat of Their power Systems. The reason why We see them with IR is that through conduction of that Heat - The Heat becomes part and parcel of the Craft throughout its structure by conduction of the Heat it produces while Operating.

I do beleive that what was said about cloaking devices is true but I think that - Again - It is part and parcel of the Power Systems They are using and the indirect effects of Their Power Systems have the effect of cloaking the Crafts due to the Systems being used for Powering them.

Electrons excited to 60% the speed of Light will cause the Nucleus of an Atom to destablize. As the Nucleus of the Atom trys to return to It's natural state - There is a transference of Power caused by the return to It's natural state. Now if this excitation is perpetuated continually - The Power from the Nucleus of the Atom attempting to return to It's natural state is thereby sustained and can be used by applicable Systems hooked up to It in the right way.

Now where does this Power come from ?

It comes from the 5th Dimension as the Nucleus of the Atom is using the 4th Dimension as Its Intial Torque position to garnish Zero Point Energy from the 5th Dimension. That said, if this draws Power from the 5th - Then the 5th or at least the Higher octaves of the 4th Dimension must be where the Power System has to reside in locality. Therefore again - Due to conduction of the Power Systems They're using and the hard-wired connection to the Crafts structure - This would then put the Craft actually in at least the 4th and likely the 5th Dimension for residence as a reality for It...

Again - Just a posit here as I'm trying to figure it out like the rest of You...

stiros · 12-22-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercuriel

.......... Electrons excited to 60% the speed of Light will cause the Nucleus of an Atom to destablize. As the Nucleus of the Atom trys to return to It's natural state - There is a transference of Power caused by the return to It's natural state. Now if this excitation is perpetuated continually - The Power from the Nucleus of the Atom attempting to return to It's natural state is thereby sustained and can be used by applicable Systems hooked up to It in the right way.

Now where does this Power come from ?

It comes from the 5th Dimension as the Nucleus of the Atom is using the 4th Dimension as Its Intial Torque position to garnish Zero Point Energy from the 5th Dimension. That said, if this draws Power from the 5th - Then the 5th or at least the Higher octaves of the 4th Dimension must be where the Power System has to reside in locality. Therefore again - Due to conduction of the Power Systems They're using and the hard-wired connection to the Crafts structure - This would then put the Craft actually in at least the 4th and likely the 5th Dimension for residence as a reality for It............

This is really interesting, thank you Mercuriel.
Is this a similar theory, which is discussed in the “Static Field – Video”- thread by Magii?
Link: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...6577#post96577
Because in a way “this feels good” to me.

love, freedom and truth
stiros

Mercuriel · 12-22-2008, 01:45 AM

Yes it is Stiros. In fact while I've had the concept down for awhile - It was the Information that I've gleaned not only from the Static Field Theory Video posted on Avalon - But also from the Zero Point Energy Information I've been able to understand over the past few years thats helped Me to explain this phenomena in more concrete terms.

stiros · 12-22-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercuriel

Yes it is Stiros. In fact while I've had the concept down for awhile - It was the Information that I've gleaned not only from the Static Field Theory Video posted on Avalon - But also from the Zero Point Energy Information I've been able to understand over the past few years thats helped Me to explain this phenomena in more concrete terms.

Thank you very much for the information, Mercuriel.
Maybe we could call this type of energy an “Inter dimensional energy”.
If it is possible to exist in a higher dimension, then it should be possible for “them” to use the same “Inter dimensional energy” as we have possibility to use.
And then it should be possible for us to see the traces from this kind of “energy application” if “they” use it.
Just speculating...

love, freedom and truth
stiros

12-19-2008, 02:51 PM	#26
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera This IS insane. I have an IR camera and will go out there to check this out. Why doesn't anybody ever use a tripod though? Also, will SONY IR doe the job? Are there more details about the IR used? I know SONY filtered out some frequencies so that you can't 'look through those swimming suits' .

12-19-2008, 02:54 PM	#27
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Thanks mercurie;-i've seen the whole interview with grimsley i think he started off with Amateur radio interceptions on a NASA closed channel?

12-19-2008, 02:58 PM	#28
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Czymra there is footage also knocking about taken in daylight where a guy sets up two cameras side by side focused on the same part of the sky- one infra the other visible light-it's crazy on the infra camera you see a metallic sphere hovering and on the visible there is absolutely nothing just sky!!I don't recall the name of the video though-apologies.

12-19-2008, 03:23 PM	#29
Mercuriel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 362	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Well - I'm not sure where Grimsley got the idea or began His investigations (STS-75 ?) but He was the first Person that gave Me the Idea for the FLIR Goggles when looking for UFOs... Then - When I found out much to My disdain that I couldn't get a pair being a Canadian (I mean other than GEN1) - I bought a Sony HandyCam with IR but have been unable to capture footage like what Grimsley has captured. I'm still working on how to adjust it so I can get some good footage if possible. Any suggestions on that are INDEED welcome...

12-19-2008, 04:57 PM	#30
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Well, I think you'll have to get some old camera or another model then. I have the feeling that Sony removed those frequencies rather due to THAT reason than the 'x ray effect'. How curious! There is this German guy who could get access to the firmware of the HC1 and could do certain readouts and changes, however as every lens is differently balanced by its software configurations, messing around in those setting without having a dozen other reference cameras seems to be more destructive than anything else. I'm a video maker and I think that you have to be very specific about the camera because there is so much modification going on in those prosumer and consumer cameras that you can't trust them on these accounts. Can you guys fill me in on those two things: 1. I know that night goggles are a mixture of what I only know in German as 'rest light amplifier' and the infra red. Do they use a special filter to just view IR and combine the signal with the amplified light or do they add the ir spectrum above the normal one? 2. I have read some articles on an IR filter, so that your camera only receives the IR frequencies instead of the normal ones. This might be a way of getting the camera do to the real thing without using proprietary modes. I think I have to read up on the IR thing. I don't quite get the difference between the 'warmth pictures' and this IR. I always though it was the same. Anyway, even with the built in IR on my cam some colours are completely opposite, i.e. black turns to white/grey. I'm not sure what frequencies are observed here as it doesn't seem like colour temperature. Does anybody have a theory as to why these objects are visible with IR? Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?

12-19-2008, 06:45 PM	#32
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Yeah i viewed the grimsley vid a while ago-he used amateur radio i think on a secret NASA frequency to get some info.?

12-20-2008, 03:28 AM	#33
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera After watching Ed Grimsley's video I was wondering, if these things are fighting up there, first of all why? why aren't they fighting in outerspace where they have all kinds of room to fight? why are they fighting here where we can see them?, and if they are shooting each other and these guys (grimsley) say they can see explosions, then where are all the parts and pieces? why aren't all these pieces falling to the ground if it's happening all the time, like grimsley says it is.

12-20-2008, 09:59 PM	#36
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera I'm impressed, thanks, I understand it's only conjecture but good points and highly plausible! hmmm......

12-21-2008, 02:59 AM	#38
Mercuriel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 362	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera As I mentioned above - Here is some very similar footage in that this piece is also filmed with a Camera that has IR. This DOES show debris falling to Earth from the destruction of a Craft... Enjoy... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-CewH99F0K0

12-21-2008, 04:36 AM	#39
J_rod7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 301	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera * * *** WOW - Space Craft engaged in BATTLE above Earth. Gotta wonder - Who are they? Why the battle? Fighting over US? Fighting FOR us? The most memorable sighting I've had was about 7-weeks ago... Sitting outside my house around 2:00 AM watching for meteors, I saw coming from the South a LARGE Triangle-shaped craft, moving VERY fast. The two sides to the front 'point' longer than the trailing edge, and dim red lights along all the edges that I could see. My estimate is the craft was at about 7000 - 8000 foot elevation, flew past me going due North about 60 - 65 degrees above the horizon, going maybe 4000 MPH. Out of sight through a clear night sky in less than ~5 seconds. The spooky part - I expected to hear a LOUD Sonic BOOM, but NOTHING, no sound whatsoever; perhaps isolated by some type of unseen 'field.' Things are really 'heating up' here with Cosmic Visitors. Thanks for sharing... *** * *

12-21-2008, 05:17 AM	#40
J_rod7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 301	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera * * *** Hi Czymra, You asked: "I'm not sure what frequencies are observed here as it doesn't seem like colour temperature. Does anybody have a theory as to why these objects are visible with IR? Do they simply pulse at a higher than visible frequency?" Consider the Spectrum of light frequencies. Violet/Blue is the highest frequency in the visible spectrum. Higher frequencies move up into the Ultra-Violet and beyond (all the way up through X-Rays, Gamma-Rays &c). Higher frequencies are Shorter in Wavelength, so more Energy per unit of time. At the lowest end of frequency in the visible spectrum is Red, longer wavelength. Below visible Red is Infrared, and increasingly lower and lower frequencies dropping down into Radio-bands, &c, down into Audible ranges, &c. The Frequencies in the Infrared also correspond to levels of HEAT, so Infrared picks up the Heat signatures better than visual frequencies. The 'best' Infrared detectors are COLD, even super-cooled with liquid Helium. But I wouldn't advise messing around with Liquid Helium, or detectors which require it. Also, to add here, Most advanced-technology Interstellar Space-Craft have 'Cloaking Fields' specifically to avoid visible observation. Such Cloaking Fields do not seem to be calibrated to preclude the Infrared. Namaste *** * * Last edited by J_rod7; 12-21-2008 at 05:38 AM.

12-21-2008, 10:23 PM	#43
Jack Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 454	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Excelent thread! A subject that doesnt get as much publicity as it deserves. Ive seen loads of pics out there, a few of which were taken by a well known mexican journalist who gathered the balls to give it the publicity that could have well made him a target. I'm not too sure if these were taken by him but they bear a striking resemblance so i'll post them anyways. And for the record, these are 100% authentic ; We can rule out birds for this one unless their wrapping themselves up in christmas lights.. Its amazing to think that the governments still have the audacity to say that ufos dont exist. Just posting these so we can rule out "the bird" theory. Last edited by Jack; 12-21-2008 at 10:26 PM.

12-21-2008, 10:29 PM	#44
Mercuriel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 362	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera I honestly think that what is being picked up is the heat of Their power Systems. The reason why We see them with IR is that through conduction of that Heat - The Heat becomes part and parcel of the Craft throughout its structure by conduction of the Heat it produces while Operating. I do beleive that what was said about cloaking devices is true but I think that - Again - It is part and parcel of the Power Systems They are using and the indirect effects of Their Power Systems have the effect of cloaking the Crafts due to the Systems being used for Powering them. Electrons excited to 60% the speed of Light will cause the Nucleus of an Atom to destablize. As the Nucleus of the Atom trys to return to It's natural state - There is a transference of Power caused by the return to It's natural state. Now if this excitation is perpetuated continually - The Power from the Nucleus of the Atom attempting to return to It's natural state is thereby sustained and can be used by applicable Systems hooked up to It in the right way. Now where does this Power come from ? It comes from the 5th Dimension as the Nucleus of the Atom is using the 4th Dimension as Its Intial Torque position to garnish Zero Point Energy from the 5th Dimension. That said, if this draws Power from the 5th - Then the 5th or at least the Higher octaves of the 4th Dimension must be where the Power System has to reside in locality. Therefore again - Due to conduction of the Power Systems They're using and the hard-wired connection to the Crafts structure - This would then put the Craft actually in at least the 4th and likely the 5th Dimension for residence as a reality for It... Again - Just a posit here as I'm trying to figure it out like the rest of You... Last edited by Mercuriel; 12-21-2008 at 10:40 PM.

12-22-2008, 01:45 AM	#46
Mercuriel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 362	Re: UFO Fleet Formation Filmed with Nightvision Camera Yes it is Stiros. In fact while I've had the concept down for awhile - It was the Information that I've gleaned not only from the Static Field Theory Video posted on Avalon - But also from the Zero Point Energy Information I've been able to understand over the past few years thats helped Me to explain this phenomena in more concrete terms.