Someone explain me where the "down" children fits in the "ascension" theories please

[iamhearing]

Originally Posted by macrostheblack

the human with disability promotes love and kindness which rubs off on all. Those who cannot deal with it fear the disabled human spirit for the inability or disability in them selves prevents the same feeling of love and kindness.

We are shown before this life the best path to promote our own growth even if it means a hard life. Both good and bad people in past lifes may find they benefit more by occupying a body with limitaions next time.

we all have some form of disabilty and many that are not visual are far worse to live with.

The cause of such conditions is partly due to our own experimentation with chemicals that are hoped to cure future generatons. I have also read that et abuction experiment causes this too. If et does use us and then discard their mistakes to a life of suffering limitations one must ponder on who our friends really are out there and then act with caution. Are we a farm?

Macros

Dear Macros, I would have to dissagree with your last paragrph...

"The cause of such conditions is partly due to our own experimentation with chemicals that are hope to cure future generations. I have also read that et abduction experiment causes this too. If et does use us then discard their mistakes to a life of suffering limitations one must onder on who our friends really are out there and then act in caution. Are we the farm."


This in my sons case is not correct at all. My son does not suffer a genetic dissability. My son was a healthy baby boy within my womb until the doctors were concerned about my bloodpreasure after a prolonged labour, they then introduced a drug called oxyseratocinin which was used to speed up my contractions, albeit caused the child to go into distress and pass a bowel motion called marconium, which inturn suffocated the child who then had to be ressusitated.

So ultimately it was human error and yes humans playing God with synthetic man made drugs, but they knew no better this is how the system works ( or doesnt!!) an unfortunate accident.

When one sees one with a dissability there are many factors that can cause such, i.e genetic factors, vaccines, an unfortunate accident i.e Christopher Reeves (Superman).

Ultimately whatever reason friends, yes they are teachers ( even the naghty ones).

Would'nt life be dull if we were all the same, what would we have then to learn?

Many thanks

Originally Posted by iamhearing

I have a little boy who has cerebral palsy, he is physically and mentally disabled due to being denied oxygen at birth.

He is fully dependent on being fed dressed and cared for by myself and my partner, he cannot walk or talk.

We were told he that he would probably die within days of birth due to the extensive trauma to his little brain.

That was the moment that changed my life our lives.

Something strange came over me, yes first it was undeniable grief, then later when i was alone, i remember looking into a mirror, in the bathroom.Some strange incredible calm came over me and i spoke to the mirror and said please let him live, if its not to be then prepare me.

Its a very long story with so many miraculous happenings, my son decided to stick around 9 yrs later, i know not the time nor the hour when he may leave us.

How has he changed our lives bar the obvious...

Firstly, because we are blessed to have such a pure little soul in our lives, its not easy work it can be bloody heartbreaking at times, but we have learned more about unconditional love than anyone can even know.

Secondly thanks to him i educated myself, mentally, spiritually amd physically i wanted to know about the world and the universe. He instigated my awakening.

Thirdly we learned empathy, to put your self in someone elses shoes, and feel how they must feel and without judgement.

We also learnt that time is precious and its the NOW that counts!

So I could vouch on certainly my own behalf, that these little special children have much to teach, they are NOT souls who are paying back karma, but indeed wise kind souls assisting our Assention weather it be spiritually or simply as a human being.

Namaste

Thank you so much for sharing with us. I have worked with and been privileged to be in the company of physically/mentally challenged children. They emit pure love.

I have learned from them a very important lesson. Would you sacrfice all that you believe you are for the good of the whole?

This is the ONLY unconditional love that exists.

This is the ONLY service to others.

You do not know who it will affect. You get no guaranteed returns. You just surrender yourself to the whole of beings for their betterment. This act, to me , is an incredible experience of courage. To come here with such challenges so that everyone else benefits is truly an aspiration.

Anyone who comes in contact with these children are touched, in some way, which spiritually moves them forward. We are blessed by their presence on this planet.

Alexandra

[macrostheblack]

Originally Posted by iamhearing

Dear Macros, I would have to dissagree with your last paragrph...

"The cause of such conditions is partly due to our own experimentation with chemicals that are hope to cure future generations. I have also read that et abduction experiment causes this too. If et does use us then discard their mistakes to a life of suffering limitations one must onder on who our friends really are out there and then act in caution. Are we the farm."


This in my sons case is not correct at all. My son does not suffer a genetic dissability. My son was a healthy baby boy within my womb until the doctors were concerned about my bloodpreasure after a prolonged labour, they then introduced a drug called oxyseratocinin which was used to speed up my contractions, albeit caused the child to go into distress and pass a bowel motion called marconium, which inturn suffocated the child who then had to be ressusitated.

So ultimately it was human error and yes humans playing God with synthetic man made drugs, but they knew no better this is how the system works ( or doesnt!!) an unfortunate accident.

When one sees one with a dissability there are many factors that can cause such, i.e genetic factors, vaccines, an unfortunate accident i.e Christopher Reeves (Superman).

Ultimately whatever reason friends, yes they are teachers ( even the naghty ones).

Would'nt life be dull if we were all the same, what would we have then to learn?

Many thanks

Thank you for your reply.

My addition to this thread was brief due to the time. Yes you are correct and i am aware of such aspects as accidents, genetic defects, family histories of certain illness etc.

Any being created with a soul as a universal right to life regardless of its make up. The ufo addition came from a Russian contactee way back in the early 90s that i recall reading about. She spoke of the mysterious et agenda. Cutting the story short here she talked of good and bad guys out there that have the same intentions with slightly different methods employed. The good nuture and correct for positive growth within the being. The bad do the same with selfish goals in mind - often messing with the work of the good guys. Which can result in a corrupted being developing somewhere along the family line in the near or distant future. Because this being carries a soul of god/the creator the ets abide by the universal law. The baddies often interfere just to cause chaos and this results in some people being born with minor-severe disability.

I did not intent to offend anyone here. If I have then please accept my apology.

Macros

[iamhearing]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Thank you so much for sharing with us. I have worked with and been privileged to be in the company of physically/mentally challenged children. They emit pure love.

I have learned from them a very important lesson. Would you sacrfice all that you believe you are for the good of the whole?

This is the ONLY unconditional love that exists.

This is the ONLY service to others.

You do not know who it will affect. You get no guaranteed returns. You just surrender yourself to the whole of beings for their betterment. This act, to me , is an incredible experience of courage. To come here with such challenges so that everyone else benefits is truly an aspiration.






Anyone who comes in contact with these children are touched, in some way, which spiritually moves them forward. We are blessed by their presence on this planet.

Alexandra

Thankyou Alexandra for your loving thoughts,

Namaste

[iamhearing]

Originally Posted by macrostheblack

Thank you for your reply.

My addition to this thread was brief due to the time. Yes you are correct and i am aware of such aspects as accidents, genetic defects, family histories of certain illness etc.

Any being created with a soul as a universal right to life regardless of its make up. The ufo addition came from a Russian contactee way back in the early 90s that i recall reading about. She spoke of the mysterious et agenda. Cutting the story short here she talked of good and bad guys out there that have the same intentions with slightly different methods employed. The good nuture and correct for positive growth within the being. The bad do the same with selfish goals in mind - often messing with the work of the good guys. Which can result in a corrupted being developing somewhere along the family line in the near or distant future. Because this being carries a soul of god/the creator the ets abide by the universal law. The baddies often interfere just to cause chaos and this results in some people being born with minor-severe disability.

I did not intent to offend anyone here. If I have then please accept my apology.

Macros

My friend you didnt offend what so ever, interesting theory about the Et agenda, many including humans have tampered with nature and still do.
Either way its how one deals with lifes set backs, one can look at the negative or choose the positive, i personally choose the positive.

If we didnt discuss we'd never learn, so no worries at all friend.

Namaste

[macrostheblack]

Hi there IAMLISTENING good to know we are friends.

The et thing to me seems to represent an order of growth almost like a school in which you are guided but need to put in the effort. The good guys number many in various levels of evolution. They all contribute a speck of their wisdom upon humanity - be it influence, guidence or correction of the body we use. Some may say, "why dont they just appear and land?". This question to me is simply answered with - the bad guys would follow suit not wishing to miss out or lose their subjects with whom they violate.

So naturally, the only way to help is to encourage the human to evolve in a positive direction whilst they remain hidden. When the mind is clear and balanced then new doors open and weaken the bad ets attachment. Again, I strongly feel that both sides of the et coin can only exist here and effect other life as long as they respect the univeral law of free will. If the human mind evolves - so the bad et can no longer intervene and abuse. The baddie must let go of us out of respect.

Macros

Originally Posted by Ashatav

If we are here to evolve and not experience whatever we need to experience how a "down", litlle children who dies, poor children who aren't educated, etc. evolve into the differents densities, etc?


The "down" children in "other reincarnations" where evil geniouses so they deserves they condition? we reincarnate forever? so... G O D repeat himself??


Really, I don't know and will be glad to read some ascension theories.


Cheerzo

You have alot of agreeable responses made to your question! If i may add, you are here to learn your lesson, whatever it maybe, then move on or graduate to the next level. It is a tough journey we have. You have to burn out all of your ego, desires and have complete compassion for all, unconditional love. Service to others above yourself.

[DanDan]

We choose the life we will live in any given incarnation, to evolve our own soul. GOD didn't do it to anybody. We do it ourselves. Downs syndrome or any handicap is what you chose to experience and the parents agreed to have downs kids for their soul growth. We have all experienced in other incarnations every life situation. I could have been george washington or a black slave or a starving child in a third world country or a Bill Gates. Don't ever blame GOD. We all do it for the good of our soul.