So Long

[peaceonearth]

Thanks Henry, I have learned a lot from you..Take care

[seagull]

Why is Zorgon posting this information under Spirituality/So Long ?

Are the moderators going to move the material to a more appropriate area?

And dear Henry, God Bless you. We wish you a speedy recovery.

John and Family

Originally Posted by seagull

Why is Zorgon posting this information under Spirituality/So Long ?

Are the moderators going to move the material to a more appropriate area?

And dear Henry, God Bless you. We wish you a speedy recovery.

John and Family

Because...Zorgon put a lot into his posts and they related to what Henry has spoken about before hand.
Zorgon 'thought' that these posts were gone for good.
I cannot blame him. Everyone knows how irritating it is to lose all that work.
I for one would like to see a Zorgon Sub-forum myself.
As do a lot of other people....
He NEVERS says he knows it all but, he does ask the 'Correct Questions'.
To me anyways that is what it is about....asking the 'Correct Questions' in order to find the 'Correct Answers'.
Check out his and John Lear's website if anyone doesn't believe me....

At the VERY LEAST....Zorgon should be a Moderator here! Camelot Forum I mean!

[BarryC]

Henry - best wishes - best to you always; get well and we'll keep you in our prayers.

To many of us, desperately trying to understand the bigger picture and increase our understanding
and wisdom, your example and testimony have been a miracle.
<gaining that 'Pale Blue Dot' perspective of our humility and opportunity>

BarryC

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Carol

..Kerry and Bill have been 100 percent supportive of Henry and backing him up. This just doesn't make sense to me.

Ummm.....

"Originally Posted by Kerry Cassidy"

"Richard Sauder is speaking for the people and for disclosure. In my view, those who are still holding back the truth, even while **parading themselves** as whistle blowers need to realize that they are not free of responsibility to the greater whole. Indeed, theirs may be the final deceit.

100%?

Originally Posted by Anchor

Are we being hacked?

No.

[clarkkent]

this has nothing to do with us and everything to do with dr sauder,kerry,henry and bill.

bill attempted to edit something that would potentially upset henry posted by sauder, kerry swept in not liking what she saw as censorship and then added her 2 cents which was damning of whistleblowers who didnt fess up to everything they knew.

henry clearly took offense not only to sauders "demands" that we are "owed" what he knows, and then the cherry on top, was kerry's words about whistelblowers "parading" etc.

this isnt a case of us regular posters upsetting henry and him leaving , this has to do with a "management dispute" so to speak.

maybe in time henry will come back once he feels its a more understanding place here, the man is ill and doesnt have to tell us anything. this isnt court. he's human and some empathy should be had for his position, he's been nothing but positive here.


-kyle

[Anchor]

Thankyou for clearing that up.

I hope that HD gets well.

A..

PS: I feel sorry for those involved and probably now realise the consequences.

Questioner: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves but also the forgiveness of self. Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.

Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self

[arcora]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

this has nothing to do with us and everything to do with dr sauder,kerry,henry and bill.

bill attempted to edit something that would potentially upset henry posted by sauder, kerry swept in not liking what she saw as censorship and then added her 2 cents which was damning of whistleblowers who didnt fess up to everything they knew.

henry clearly took offense not only to sauders "demands" that we are "owed" what he knows, and then the cherry on top, was kerry's words about whistelblowers "parading" etc.

this isnt a case of us regular posters upsetting henry and him leaving , this has to do with a "management dispute" so to speak.

maybe in time henry will come back once he feels its a more understanding place here, the man is ill and doesnt have to tell us anything. this isnt court. he's human and some empathy should be had for his position, he's been nothing but positive here.


-kyle

That is the 2nd part of a two part story.

[houman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJRVWORYIig

Just a heads up guys..

The forum has not been hacked!

The error/forbidden messages everyone has been getting were down to the hosting company installing a new security script on the hosting server..but neglecting to inform anyone they had done so!

All access problems should be sorted now *fingers crossed*

[Carol]

It's always a relief to discover it was a tech problem. Naughty, naughty host!

Well folks we've been trying to figure out what has been going on too so you're not alone. We all know Henry is a witness and as such closely watched and also harassed by psyops. These things are to be expected and psyops is very, very good at what they do. They could easily piggyback on Henry's sever and pretend to be him, get access through the back door and create all types of havoc in the hopes of destroying budding relationships, the forum and to keep Henry isolated.

This is one possible scenario. Let’s then take this the next step. Mods see what go on behind the scene. What if several mods thought that it was Henry creating the fuss and others thought is was psyops? Don’t you think that this would create polarization and conflict within ones own house, so-to-speak, as each person wants to stick with what they perceive to be the truth?

Subsequently, these disruptive tactics if allowed to follow through to the normal type of outcome would lend itself to weakening the team and taking out strong members who refuse to live with conflicted viewpoints and want everyone on the same page as they are.

The question remains… Who wins? Psyops? Will folks believe the lie… or will folks take a big step back to review this situation from an objective viewpoint and say, wait a minute.

What is the big picture? What is it we are striving for?

Most folks in Avalon have sorted this out… we are building relationships, networking and creating a radiant zone.

Each of us must accept that in a particular moment in time that there are different personal perspectives which are in conflict with the people we care about. Irrespective of the conflicts we still must band together and move toward the common goal. In our hearts we already know conflict will eventually work itself out once all of the facts have been uncovered and the real truth emerges for all to see. After all, isn’t the truth what we are all seeking and isn’t the truth being uncovered that which is there to set us free so that we can fly? Perhaps it is faith that takes us through the frustrating and scary parts of life. Perhaps what is also needed is faith that it will all work out in the end and we need only trust in the Divine to help sort it all out. I believe some call this, letting go and letting god.

Mahalo Nui Loa,

Makani

[seagull]

Hi Acora

It is as plain as day that Henry had several good reasons to leave.

Why would anyone wish to participate in a hostile environment?

He appeared to have a good heart and a desire to help others.

I noticed the same thing as you have noticed.

Kerry attacked Henry somewhat subtly as you keenly pointed out in your quote.

Where is the walk the talk I just learned about in school?

I wonder if the concept of apologising exists.

God Bless,

Johnathan

Originally Posted by arcora

Ummm.....

100%?
No.

Quote:
"Originally Posted by Kerry Cassidy"

"Richard Sauder is speaking for the people and for disclosure. In my view, those who are still holding back the truth, even while **parading themselves** as whistle blowers need to realize that they are not free of responsibility to the greater whole. Indeed, theirs may be the final deceit.
100%?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anchor View Post
Are we being hacked?
No.
__________________
Thank you God for everything you have given me - which is everything I have.

[Frank Samuel]

Henry has posted a few things after . I know because of the times often
things are written by all which is offensive. I do not believe that any of us in this forum is perfect. Henry knows that. Kerry and Bill are closer to Henry than any of us . What project avalon is becoming in my opinion is the site where doom and gloom is no longer our reality. I know that for that Henry is pleased. Many who have posted threads about leaving often stay, we are just letting out some steam. My hope is that Bill and Kerry reconsider opening
the project camelot forum to us the looney toons . We are all learning to trust one another in this forum, we are becoming plain and simple a family.

[seagull]

Hi All,

I've been searching for Henry and noticed that he is posting on a few websites here and there. He mentioned that he was upset with the way Kerry had treated him on Avalon and that he saw a couple of other people working on Avalon as "like foxes guarding the hen house". He also posted that he needed a break from the bad energy. Has anyone else noted these posts?

Johnathan

[rustanddust]

where else is he posting? st clair's zone?

it is true that this place went to disarray pretty quickly....

[orionsbelt]

Henry had good reason to leave this and other forums/blogs.

He surely realized that many of those self-proclaimed 'enlightened' people - the list being a bit long - are no more 'enlightened' than some well known political leaders; movie stars/producers and 'psychics' of today.

Disappointed in the hypocrisy of a few 'well known' people here, is enough to drive anyone who wishes to associate with peace-loving and Truely enlightened beings - far away from a place like this.

Those who are seeking Truth and seeking Happiness Must needs look elsewhere to find those attributes.

Once one really gets to (privately) know people who claim to be 'empathic' who are Not; who claim to have achieved even minor states of enlightenment - who have not; who claim that their desire and goal is to uncover Truth and to Help others - but instead bring unhappiness and worry; those who claim to have contact with 'aliens' of high intelligence - but at the same time use bad language or backbite others (what right-minded alien would associate with such?) --

It adds up to one thing.
These people are not who they think they are or who they claim to be. They only seek attention, fame and fortune and are delusional.

How can 'enlightened' ex-banking people call others "As* H**les" (in private)?

How can an 'empathic' person be so cruel to sensitive people like the late 'Henry' appeared to be?

Does a highly evolved person speak to others - utilizing four letter words or use similar vulgar/low-level language?

This is addressed primarily to those people who many here look upto as being at the top of This food chain.

This world is not falling apart.
Things are improving.
Forget the Gold and the Threats of Destruction.
There is little or no need to run for the hills.
These fear-instilling energies are nothing more than Delusions created by a few ignorant/deluded people - some with very very big egos.

Free Yourselves from these mindgames and mental traps.

These 'people' are causing harm to your psyche and can ruin an otherwise enjoyable life for you here.

With Love

[Anchor]

@orionsbelt: I agree with all the positive parts of you message

[Sherab]

Originally Posted by orionsbelt

Henry had good reason to leave this and other forums/blogs.

He surely realized that many of those self-proclaimed 'enlightened' people - the list being a bit long - are no more 'enlightened' than some well known political leaders; movie stars/producers and 'psychics' of today.

Disappointed in the hypocrisy of a few 'well known' people here, is enough to drive anyone who wishes to associate with peace-loving and Truely enlightened beings - far away from a place like this.

Those who are seeking Truth and seeking Happiness Must needs look elsewhere to find those attributes.

Once one really gets to (privately) know people who claim to be 'empathic' who are Not; who claim to have achieved even minor states of enlightenment - who have not; who claim that their desire and goal is to uncover Truth and to Help others - but instead bring unhappiness and worry; those who claim to have contact with 'aliens' of high intelligence - but at the same time use bad language or backbite others (what right-minded alien would associate with such?) --

It adds up to one thing.
These people are not who they think they are or who they claim to be. They only seek attention, fame and fortune and are delusional.

How can 'enlightened' ex-banking people call others "As* H**les" (in private)?

How can an 'empathic' person be so cruel to sensitive people like the late 'Henry' appeared to be?

Does a highly evolved person speak to others - utilizing four letter words or use similar vulgar/low-level language?

This is addressed primarily to those people who many here look upto as being at the top of This food chain.

This world is not falling apart.
Things are improving.
Forget the Gold and the Threats of Destruction.
There is little or no need to run for the hills.
These fear-instilling energies are nothing more than Delusions created by a few ignorant/deluded people - some with very very big egos.

Free Yourselves from these mindgames and mental traps.

These 'people' are causing harm to your psyche and can ruin an otherwise enjoyable life for you here.

With Love

Go tell it on the mountain brother!! Amen!!

[John aka#404]

Originally Posted by orionsbelt

Henry had good reason to leave this and other forums/blogs.

He surely realized that many of those self-proclaimed 'enlightened' people - the list being a bit long - are no more 'enlightened' than some well known political leaders; movie stars/producers and 'psychics' of today.

Disappointed in the hypocrisy of a few 'well known' people here, is enough to drive anyone who wishes to associate with peace-loving and Truely enlightened beings - far away from a place like this.

Those who are seeking Truth and seeking Happiness Must needs look elsewhere to find those attributes.
.
.
.
How can an 'empathic' person be so cruel to sensitive people like the late 'Henry' appeared to be?
.
.
This world is not falling apart.
Things are improving.
Forget the Gold and the Threats of Destruction.
There is little or no need to run for the hills.
These fear-instilling energies are nothing more than Delusions created by a few ignorant/deluded people - some with very very big egos.

Free Yourselves from these mindgames and mental traps.

These 'people' are causing harm to your psyche and can ruin an otherwise enjoyable life for you here.

With Love

Thank you for the message. Henry is missed here.

-John
.

Thread moved to Camelot - Off Topic

[orionsbelt]

Now I've seen everything.

A SPIRITUAL MODERATOR!

Moving this thread that Henry chose to post under "spiritual' for What reason?

To bury it a bit into the noise or background?

You've got the POWER to move Threads!

[John aka#404]

Thread closed.

Thanks for all the fish Henry.

[EDITED]
Since I received some PMs on why this was done, it was felt that the subject of this thread has done its purpose and any other follow up can easily be done via a new topic. I trust you all understand.

Thanks
John aka#404

Avalon Moderator Team

[DoctorWho]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

It was one of my 50 line posts...

lost in cyberspace...

each time it happens is on a subject that is pushing the envelope...

Well hey, long post should be done in a Word program, then you can save it before you post it on a board.
Bill "the Doctor"
P.S. Henry, hopefully you'll still lurk around.

[Operator]

Originally Posted by DoctorWho

Well hey, long post should be done in a Word program, then you can save it before you post it on a board.

Good advice, I was already typing a similar reply (proposing notepad however).

Let me add that php scripts are used to program the functionality on this forum. These script depend on environment settings and
variables. When you type long posts or leave you computer e.g. for a phone call or whatever other break you don't refresh pages.
The environment settings can get lost after (in general) 30 minutes. So you are not logged in anymore.

This might explain what happens sometime and why the advice given will solve such a case ....

Doing a preview once in a while could also prevent this problem.

Cheers

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

It was one of my 50 line posts...

lost in cyberspace...

each time it happens is on a subject that is pushing the envelope...

When writing epic posts, do them in an external text editor, then C'n'P them here.

Go on, you know it makes sense

We are love and light, and we can and shall dispel any darkness.

A..