for ground crew NOT moving anywhere

[Chris Parson]

hi guys

this was posted elsewhere and i just watched Drunvalo Melchizedek

at the very end after he speaks of the mayans writting their own book
he says that it is a wonderful time and
if you are in you heart not your head you can stand in a field naked and be fine...
i like this thought a lot better ..and also interesting how he says the hopi say they come from the mayans...it's all very interesting
waving
D

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm



http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm

[clarkkent]

let me thank everyone for posting in this thread with fearlessness.

i could see many people not jive or resonate with the future disaster "move away" and survival/fear based way we seem to be prodded into going.

i want to thank again bill and kerry for providing this place for us to discuss, and i hope they're not offended by this thread or my posts. i know they want to distribute practical and informative information for people in what we all know will be challenging times.

collectively we as a community know that probably MOST of us will not be able to move to switzerland or the four corners or any radiant zones.

so the practical question is...what do we do? well i think the first thing in order is to realize you are NOT doomed to die in earth changes. this certainly is a possibility, but only that....a possibility.

so once that is established we should take the time to absoluteley discuss what is going down in our world/country on a day to day basis.
these are VERY interesting times, the positive and negative forces are at extreme levels and we will all take part in our own way.

im very glad to see other folks being honest and positive about their own individual situations, we shouldn't despair if we cant get to the very few places deemed safe by some PC witnesses. lets envision what we WANT to see happen, not what we FEAR will happen.

i keep making the analogy of "winter" to my friends. if you know winter is coming and it is natural for it to come, then you prepare, you buy a jacket and stock up on firewood and know that it can be harsh, but spring looms around the corner. you dont freak out that winter is coming and abandon everyone you know and love ,gather your things and flee to tahiti in fear of freezing to death.

anyhow thanks for eveyones input, and bill and kerry i hope you understand where im coming from

-kyle

[mwood82]

Thanks kyle, this has really surpressed my anxiety and put me in a peaceful state. I live 1 mile from the pacific ocean in Santa Barbara and have lived here all my 20 years. Knowing that a pole shift is probable, my life depends on me moving. but the fact is that I wont and my family wont. This gives me mixed feelings of gloom and of content. For now what happens, happens, and I will take in every beautiful day my home has to offer.

-michael

[333mark333]

Originally Posted by Sky Otter

hi guys

this was posted elsewhere and i just watched Drunvalo Melchizedek

at the very end after he speaks of the mayans writting their own book
he says that it is a wonderful time and
if you are in you heart not your head you can stand in a field naked and be fine...
i like this thought a lot better ..and also interesting how he says the hopi say they come from the mayans...it's all very interesting
waving
D

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm



http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm

Wow, i just watched the video! very interesting- a must watch. Its How we live not where!!
Thanks for the post

[bodzoyfa]

Originally Posted by Sky Otter

hi guys

this was posted elsewhere and i just watched Drunvalo Melchizedek

at the very end after he speaks of the mayans writting their own book
he says that it is a wonderful time and
if you are in you heart not your head you can stand in a field naked and be fine...
i like this thought a lot better ..and also interesting how he says the hopi say they come from the mayans...it's all very interesting
waving
D

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm



http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm

Awesome video! A must watch! I must admit I have been getting bogged down a bit, but this video brought me right back up. Very pertinent to the topic of this thread! Enjoy!

Cheers

[Seva]

Been wondering about this, maybe we are ment to be stuck in certain areas? I mean this is catching the majority of lightworkers off guard, who is really prepared what percentage of us is in a acre homestead with food & supplies. Yet we all knew this was comming maybe we were ment to adapt as it comes along to be most useful for the greater good.

So many perpareds are running for the hills walling themselves up in a land far away. And part of me whispers abandoned when i think about it. Thats like what spiritual ones did in past lives hid on top of a mountain to avoid the people. But we are reaching out o0t them in this lifetime, monks no more. Social butterflies of the message of love.

Abandon them we will not. Even if we must arrange circomstances so we do it subconsciously?

Poem for you that i love

The Sonnets1609
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove.
O no, it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wand'ring bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,I never writ, nor no man ever loved.

Think of this for one sec

But bears it out even to the edge of doom.

ooo the strength in that, the love of others more then ones self. not to abandon them?

what better description of a "lightworker"


and now something to make you giggle

i feel like this sometimes lately, but where are all where we should be if we are in the FLOW. Its funny thou




How many people are gathering skills needed? Been looking into canning today, and advanced square foot gardening. Maybe a path or reason will show itself, and we will flow into serendipity.........

looks at tv DOW down 748


Lets have a sing a long READY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXZGefbrlyY

LOVE U ALL

seva

[Oiran]

The concept of 'The Law of Attraction vs Law of Awareness' applies very strongly to this issue:

"When you expect various negative possibilities, are you merely aware of them, or do you really believe deep down that they are inevitable and therefore dread them in some way?

The difference is between prudence and paranoia, between mental anticipation and emotional investment...

When you become aware of a probable future, you are observing it, but only partially because it is not a certainty. But whereas observing a quantum wave in the present collapses it into a definite state, observing a wave still in the future merely constricts it a little, reducing its fluidity and therefore interfering with its ability to manifest synchronistically in the present.

Synchronicity is how the future becomes the present through an entirely quantum process. The more certain you are that a particular future will happen, the more that future is frozen and kept from manifesting through quantum / synchronistic means. This simply implies that instead of coming to you synchronistically, you would have to go toward it causally...

So this is why awareness blocks, selects, and filters – because it freezes the future. That is good if you want to freeze out negative futures, but not good if eager anticipation shuts out positive futures.

There is also a bit of Timeline Dynamics involved here. If a certain future involves you getting sideswiped by negative forces, then that future has a good probability of happening. That makes it a stronger future, whose feedback effects travel back into the present and attract you toward it.

For instance, you might feel a mental tug to do something, to forget something, commit an error, etc… that results in getting unexpectedly ambushed. But if you become aware of the attack ahead of time, then that prepares you to successfully handle it and utterly demolishes the future where you were hit out of the blue. This cuts off the feedback loop from that future, which then frees you mentally and emotionally from its pressure in the present...

Through awareness, you literally “head off” the negative future. It’s like the saying, “To never have to use a weapon, have one handy.”

[In summary] -- always expect attack... knowledge protects and ignorance endangers... having a happy-go-lucky attitude and practicing non-anticipation of positive things opens the flow for their manifestation."

Taken from, "Law of Attraction vs Law of Awareness"
http://montalk.net/notes/law-of-attr...w-of-awareness

[china2012]

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If you are a good person, the Earth can detect this. Earth is a conscious living entity. It knows which tree to move or rock to tumble. All of us good people will be spared. And those that are not have chosen to leave. Your soul knows when it it time to leave Earth.

Your relationship with the Earth is eternal. During these changes and the coming polar shift, your energy life force will be measured and judged. The bigger your life force, the better. I'm sure you have heard many miraculous stories about how people have survived natural disasters.

So just be cool, live your life to the fullest and know in your HEART that you are here for a reason.

Peace.

[honeybee]

Thanks for starting this thread Kyle. I was thinking the same things only last night and feel very relieved to find so many other people thinking along the same lines. I think we all have to work with and trust our intuition. For some it will feel right to move, for others it will feel right to stay where they are with people they know and love.

[quest]

i think this is a real serious issue. with all the best intentions this site is put in to life, there is a real chance that wrong forces make use of this platform.

what is the purpose, who are we serving. in forming groups about survival, i realy think the focus is not directed in a healthy way, fear should never be the guide. finally we are waking up, shaking lose governments etc. now lets not fall into the same trap by following changelings, or any source outside ourselves.

[Molly]

This thread reflects my thinking of late.

one light on earth changes and 'where to be' came from Bashar, the channel that says, follow synchronicity and you'll be where you are meant to be.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=bashar&hl=en

If Time itself is ending, then we need not fear death on this plane (though I know it's natural and I have it too). But I"m trying to reach for the idea that we'll have choices wherever we are, and if we slip through the doorway (death), what will matter most is what's in our hearts. And how we've lived our lives.

my family doesn't have a clue about all this, and I might need to guide them through the chaos. it is about 'dying' ultimately, and trusting that a new life is awaiting each of us. I sense my life has been an initiation of sorts, to be of service to others.
Some of us have that sense of service to those that are not aware yet, but will be. Maybe it's a matter of each person tuning into their own synchronicities, signs, inner calls, meeting of kindred spirits, and see where they are led. Radiant zones sound heavenly, and I like the idea of creating one whereever you are, naked in the field...lol.

We have a trip (coincidentally?) to the mtns soon, and i'm full of acceptance about where i am -- the rest just remains to be seen and experienced.

I appreciate all your comments!

[SHAMANKA]

Quote Molly-If Time itself is ending, then we need not fear death on this plane (though I know it's natural and I have it too). But I"m trying to reach for the idea that we'll have choices wherever we are, and if we slip through the doorway (death), what will matter most is what's in our hearts. And how we've lived our lives.-
Oh Molly well said and spot on!!
I have just read through the comments here and feel totally inspired, PHEW.. THAT is what we are here for is it not? This is really about connecting and networking ideas globally, striking a baLance between preparedness and survivalist thinking, pragmatism, awareness without sinking into deep despair.
Imagine someone stumbling on this forum who has only just got curious, so much of it would overwhelm and also seem like a sort of "Beautiful mind" scenario..
I have trouble sometimes with what my own intution shows and tells me, then I see and read some of the stuff others are experiencing and I laugh out loud with recognition and relief.
I happpen to think we are in grave danger of loosing our sense of humour (and joy and wonder).
Now that really would be distaster, and I say this because I do feel at times I take myself and all this far to seriously.
I think henry Deacons Quotes are amazing..I also love what Bob and Marcia say about life times, its in the Bhudda's teachings also, a sense of perspective is a good thing..maybe all this happened before and maybe this time we will get it right..
As far as service is concerned being the only sibling in my family, in this country and the one who chose to stay and give someone in her later years a good quality of life, I think I am already doing a good job there..If I can help others in other ways in the future I will..I know I will be shown what to do as things unfold, my intuition grows ever stronger.. as I am sure is happening for everyone else.. here are HEnry's quotes again to pass along..love to all...
"If people want peace, they will have peace.

Think peace, Talk peace, Speak peace, See peace".

"If someone is instilling fear.. Avoid them".

"We will have peace and harmony if we wish for it and we turn our focus,

attention and efforts in the direction of peace, cooperation and harmony".

"learn how to relax"

"Your thoughts mold (form the matrix) the world you live in.

A Great Peace will soon be here.

Think of it and work towards bringing that peace about.

Turn your gaze in the direction you wish to travel.

Help others to look in that same direction....
See that wonderful world ahead and move towards it now.

This is your Key".

"The "negative" aspects will disappear if you turn On the Light.

If one continues to think, talk, focus, pray, etc. - with focus on the dark ...

the dark will appear to have control.

You will only "feed" it by fighting against it or by praying to get rid of it!

Fear and thoughts of war will ONLY hold you captive.

Darkness is the absence of Light. Darkness is Not the opposite of Light.

They are NOT opposing forces.

Darkness is akin to ignorance (lack of understanding the true nature of

things).
Light is like Knowledge.

Photos and Images of conflict or war only aid to trap minds in a state of

illusion, fear and ignorance.

Read what is above and Wake UP !
Please

This is for You. not for me".

"THINK PEACE.. and you WILL CREATE PEACE".

"There will be Sunshine and much better times ahead.... quite soon".

"Let's help each other to continue bringing More happiness and optimism

to this realm.

Share your optimism with everyone you meet.

Remember the Butterfly Effect.

Hugs"

-Henry Deacon

[china2012]

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honest guys
you need to watch this vid of Drunvalo

while he also tells of huge world happenings
he is in a positive state
and that living in your heart..which i think all of you are doing btw
is how we will survive whatever is on the way
and his timeline is also a bit different
and
dang but i want to be in sedona next april



hugs
Dian

opps..here's the link
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/drunvalo.htm

Sky Otter,

I watched that video with Dranvulo and I have to say, I connected with this guy. It is very good material. Thanks for the link. I also found his personal website and bookmarked it.

I also look forward to the mayan book that will be published around 2012.

Peace.

[SHAMANKA]

Thank you Clark, this is the sort of discussion I searched and joined Avalon for.
It is impossible for me too move away from where I am which is not excatly an inspiringly safe place in spite of its beauty and rural location.
I live between this
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.3157
and this
http://www.british-energy.com/pagetemplate.php?pid=90
Its a well known fact that Scotland has been the favoured place to *place* strategic weapons and of course to build Nuclear power stations too late to change that right now!

There must be thousands and thousands of people , like me who live in areas and under certain circumstances, ie caring for a disabled relative, unable to move to somewhere *safer*

Is this part of the agenda to get the Eugenics completed by ridding the planet of the *needy* as we are the ones who cant flee...
I too get angry at the fact that conctactees seem to witness tall blondes ( anyone for Barbie? )

what follows is from what you said on another thread, I am new to this so forgive me I copied and pasted it as I think it is very important

" i find it interesting that the "nordic blondes" are the biggest proponent that this event is 100% going to happen. i find it interesting that the people warning of us of this seem to me to be what amounts to a future version of hitler's "master race"
-has no one else noticed this? why arent future black people or indian people or asians telling us this? why are "nordics" telling us there will be no "ascension" yet crop circles imply that that we WILL-as do some "light beings" other people have been contacted by.
anyhow i hope discussion along these lines will be permitted at avalon and it wont be limited purely to survival threads." end quote-

Like others here I came to the camelot site searching for answers, partly due to a deep long held interest in indigenous wisdom, including the Mayan calendar, as well as Aboriginal dreamtime and other creation myths and stories, prophecies.

Like you I firmly believe we have a massive power of influence over creating our realities and its this that I personally want to educate myself in and give energy too.

NOT fear..take a look at where I live again.

I have enough imagination and knowledge to know what could happen to this whole area . I protested enough against it all when I was young..

Anyway I am really glad you started this thread, it needs to be a discussion point, I draw strength from what others have said here also, thank you to those of you, thank you!!.

There is so much potential in the highest good in all of this, I dont want to loose sight of that . If I chose this time on the planet to incarnate then there was a reason for that, and it was certainly not to live in fear.
I have spent many years conquering that particular inner demon!
There are several futures, and potentials, as they narrow down awareness changes, but fear Can grow ever powerful, it is infectious and it closes us up.
Question everything, that is my motto, it what my dad taught me and he came through WW2..
Peace and the energy of love to all of you..
X

[Ampgod]

For me, the moving to these zones will only be a last resort. A final option.
Hopefully, we won't need this "final option" and we can stay and help our loved ones. Time will reveal what actions need to be taken.




Live Love,
Ampgod

[Oiran]

Thanks again Kyle for starting this thread -- it is definitely a topic that has been overshadowed by the more zealous, fear-based ideas of fleeing to allegedly "safe" areas.

As I've been hashing this topic around in my mind, something occurred to me: Let's imagine, for just a moment, that the worst case scenario DOES happen in the near future, whether it's a natural disaster or a man-made event --- what would The Powers That Be want the surviving people to do? I venture to say that they would actually WANT us to leave our homes, to travel long distances to join others in large groups in concentrated geographical areas. Why? Because we would be easier to pick off, round up for camps and/or simply kill. If surviving people chose to stay where they are (assuming their homes are still in tact, of course), they would be much more difficult to locate and control. Personally, I would think that the idea of people peppered throughout all of the planet, living in their homes or, at the very least, on land they are familiar with, hunkered down (and possibly armed), eating from their home-grown gardens, drinking purified water, etc, etc, would be a worst case scenario for THEM, for The Powers That Be.

After reading these posts and with all of the research I have done in the past year, it always seems to come down to one thing: personal responsibility. So, in my opinion, staying where we are, learning how to not only survive, but flourish, in a new, balanced and natural way would be the ultimate "rebellion," instead of running scared and hoping that someone ELSE will "save" us.

I think it is much more important HOW you live than WHERE you live.

I always seem to be near ground zero in life events. I can't get out of Bedford Falls ( a reference to George Baily in It's a Wonderful Life).

Many of us will find ourselves in an area where we can help raise the vibrations of that very space by living the loving example and Dreaming the new dream.

Follow your heart and you will choose correctly for you.

Move forward with an open heart and positive, grateful attitude and
your vision will be clearer and broader allwoing you to find unimaginable resources where ever you find yourself.

I love you all. Live Love. <3

Though all of us are experiencing the stress and emotional instability generated by the conditions accumulating as current events, don't lose the ability to remember we are all in it together. Only now are we aware, by being awakened, that something more is needed. When we started our education, was this a lesson in school you were taught. No! Are we teaching our students today about these subjects and the consequances that may unfold? No!! Or if we are, I'm sure it's not the major subject. We are now the teachers, that will go out and educate the mass, on what should be done on earth as a reflection of that which is in heaven. Problem is, this isn't anything new. Every generation since the beginning has done the exact same thing, only presented in the way and time, best suited for the digestion of the food taken in. You have always been here, and so choose to return if you wish. You are not here for yourself, but for each and everyone of us that need you.Would you choose all of this for yourself? Knowing how messed up and totally confused most are at this point? Probably not. So this as logic, means your here for others, as others are here for you. Think about this for a moment, when we'ren't you? Do you ever have a memory that you aren't, or that you never were. No!! nor will you ever. You always are, and you will always be. As soon as we hit critical mass (and we're just about there) thoughts will be different, noticibly so. Where we are today is the battle between what use to be, and what's going to be. Your choice is, what do you want? what use to be, or what is? Your inner you will tell, then you will proceed. Rather go or stay, it's not going to be right or wrong, it's the way it is; period. Use what you know, with those that know it (or should be said; HIM) and all is well; period. There's no more time for lies or lying, and the look on a persons face is going to tell you. We are here for each other, like we always were, and we will always be. What's so nice about the time we're in, we have the ability, within one second, to let everyone of us know everywhere, we all love each other. Whether they like it or not, that's what true power is, and always will be....LOVE. Love it and Live it, it's your life; Eternal. Respectfully to you all. HHWV there's no one else like him, there's only 1 me!!! I AM.

[Accipiter_Phi]

Thank you ClarkKent... My sentiments exactly.
Here is a quick story of some related experiences with fear vs hope I've had.

I have overcome alot of fear in my life... the loss of my femural artery and the ensuing 11 bypass surgeries to save my leg. They all failed.

I finally accepted my fate, sobered up and lost the fear. I began to meditate on my subtle energy body as well as emotional body. I proved the top docs at UCLA Gondular Vascular, San Francisco State, Cedars Sinai wrong and kept my leg. From starting at less than 60% circulation in my "bad, sans-artery" leg, I was able to visualize healing energy that actually turned minor collateral circulation of the adjacent veins into a wide circulatory sytem that has resulted in a 95% recovery.

I realized that anything is possible.
I began to connect with my dream voice... and ultimately memories of past lives and even premonition dreams. I now have so many synchronicities occuring everyday that I trust my higher self completly. For if anything gnarly was coming down the pike, I know I would be warned accordingly.

Over and over I have prayed for information regarding my family's fate if I stay in L.A. versus following the fear route and moving far away. The following is a quick synopsis of the resulting dreams I had:

I see bombs going off all around me. I am in a seemingly third world country. I have lost my family and am desperatly searching for them as I slog my freakishly heavy back pack around that is laden with gold/silver and basic survival supplies.
I come around a corner to a boy no older than 16 in fatigues. I am unarmed... by design. An automatic rifle is held to my head as all my precious metals (which took years to amass) are gone in less than 10 seconds. All hope is lost and I am left crying in the mud begging the Infinte Creator for a "redo."

Instantly I am back on my property in L.A., My house is on fire (this happens every 8 years or so out here in the Santa Monica mtns). I am setting up the gas powered fire pump when my girlfriend literally floats out of the sky and hugs me. She says, "remember your training, there is much more now" and she motions skyward. The clouds break and an indescribable golden heavenly light appears across the entire sky. I feel a very real tingling rush in my chest; the same rush I get in my dreams right before I begin to fly. I have feelings of pure bliss, pure safety, pure love.

I awoke flabbergasted. I immediatly began to ask again for clarification on the dream... would we ALL be alright? At that moment I realized that a small bird (a bush tit) had some how found its way into my bedroom. It calmly looked quizically at me with its head cocked. "Messaged recieved" I said aloud. I looked at the clock; 11:11. (much more verification was recieved but it would be superflous to recount it here).

I believe whole heartedly that one traverses a very fine line when dealing with preparedness vs survivalism. Over and over again, I am given clear signs that the most important thing I can be doing right now is losing my fear and anger at the PTB through meditation and building my light body. In meditation, I realize that everyone's fate is of their own choosing. Everyone's "truths" are different, therefore, I can only speak for myself.

A simple sentence pops into my head when I revisit these fears: "Failing to prepare is not the same as preparing to fail."

For now, I stay... yet I will pay close attention to my inner guidance for any changes.
Thats my two cents worth of ramblings... Thanks.

[Jacqui D]

I for one will not be going anywhere i feel unless i am under a real threat from authorities, army or police.
When i am forced into that situation i will have to rethink my plan but for now i am happy to sit back and see what happens.
I can not buy gold or silver i do not have the finances to do so, i will barter for what i need. i do have a lot of experience in many things though and will give my knowledge when it is needed.
I do intend to bring my sister nearer she lives quite away from me, i will not let her cope on her own.
I have some ideas put in place now and will take steps when i feel it is right.
I do not fear what the future brings, i know in my heart even if this all goes down really bad that we will overcome this time.
As was said before in this thread there are many parallels of this world, i have felt myself slipping in and out of many lately, perhaps i will find one with an alternate ending i hope you will to.

[LotusEarth]

"The priveledge of a lifetime is being who you are."

-Joseph Campbell