Michael Moore & Alex Jones & Bill Cooper

[Mike_Jetson]

Originally Posted by raulduke

As an example, here is a clip from Alex's show yesterday. He had David Icke on, who he once called a "turd in the punch bowl". This is Alex apologizing for how he once characterized David.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkRb3LUXQF4

He called his Reptilian views the turd in the punch bowl. Not icke himself. Chinese whispers again

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

He called his Reptilian views the turd in the punch bowl. Not icke himself. Chinese whispers again

This is so far from my intent.

Mike, did you read the rest of my post at all?

Here is the Trio channel doc I was refering to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umentary&hl=en

Alex is interviewed at about 12 minutes 30 seconds in regarding his views on David.

I suppose it is somewhat vague wether or not he is actually calling David a "turd..." or only his reptillian views.

This is so far beside the point though. My intent was to demonstrate Alex's ability to reevaluate tough information, and admit when he was wrong and apologize even.

[Mike_Jetson]

Originally Posted by raulduke

This is so far from my intent.

Mike, did you read the rest of my post at all?

Here is the Trio channel doc I was refering to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umentary&hl=en

Alex is interviewed at about 12 minutes 30 seconds in regarding his views on David.

I suppose it is somewhat vague wether or not he is actually calling David a "turd..." or only his reptillian views.

This is so far beside the point though. My intent was to demonstrate Alex's ability to reevaluate tough information, and admit when he was wrong and apologize even.

Sorry dude I wasnt saying you had got anything wrong. Finding the source of where info has been slightly changed the 1st time is always tough but usually always happens. The Deagle interview being the most major one lately.

Alex Jones actually misquoted himself . Originally refering to Ickes reptilian agenda as the turd in the punchbowl of good knowledge but indeed on that vid (you posted) Jones himself says "when i called him the.."

Alex likes to bend the facts as much as possible without lieing to get more people on our side and to get people to do their own research.

Anyone who said he doesnt talk about the jesuits is not telling the truth.

If Alex Jones decides to avoid the knights of malta of jesuit agenda then it may be others know more than him when it comes to detail, or he may genuinely fear from what he could say despite being the front liner he is, til death he will fight etc.

Im a fan, thats all that matters and like us, his opinions gladly change the more knowledge he receives

I enjoy listening to Alex Jones. Regardless of the issues he is happy to learn and change his views as he learns more

[motov]

Originally Posted by Phtha

I watched those videos awhile back and find them to be pretty unfair. Firstly they don't really
disprove anything Maxwell says. The maker of the videos makes lots of claims
but provides no proof himself. Plus he sources books that were quite obviously
written by shills.
I think the maker just can't except that nearly everything he has been taught is a lie.



I don't believe everything Maxwell says either for the record but anyone can hack apart other peoples speeches and make them look bad.

are you sure you did see them?? ok, i believe you, but i dont believe that you heard them...lol

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by JohnWdoe

Actually i had a paragraph (deleted it) about Micheal Moore and his what i call "guilt trips". I was actually ****** off when Mr Moore brought that kid in the wheel chair and pretty much said to that employee "you shot him, K-Mart bullets shot this young man", what an *******!

I'll have to disagree with you. Moore made a good point about our gun culture and how it tends to revolve around power and fear. Call him a disinfo agent if you like but some ideas, no matter how unpopular they may be, deserve to be shared. Also, Moore himself is a lifelong member of the NRA and he was also speaking as a responsible gun owner, not just some shill filmmaker.

As for Alex Jones, I really don't have an opinion. I think he has a point in regards to 9/11 but I'm not sure if I believe half the stuff he has to say.

[ATYT]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.

Correct

[Ashatav]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

Cooper did not have any time for Jones; you can research this on the web. I don't have any time for Moore - I believe him to be a disinfo agent (Bowling for Colombine (sp?) distorted the truth to fit the story).

Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.

Amen to that.

Bill Cooper is the only of these 3 who has talked about the real problems behind the NWO.

And That's something I apreciate about Bill Deagle, he is in the minority who are brave enought to talk about the Jesuits (behind all basicaly) and knigths of malta, etc.

And all the people who talks about this topic are dead after a while or at least are atempts against they lives, and who's not and disinform the people like Alex Jones or Michael Moore keep living and wins oscars hahaha

Cheers!

[ChooseYourLifeNow]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

Cooper did not have any time for Jones; you can research this on the web. I don't have any time for Moore - I believe him to be a disinfo agent (Bowling for Colombine (sp?) distorted the truth to fit the story).

Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.

I agree 100%

[Dantheman62]

Bill Cooper had strength, Micheal Moore is a fat slob with no self respect, before you can gain respect, you've got to have respect for yourself.

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by ChooseYourLifeNow

I agree 100%

Me too.

Im actually suprised that Bill Cooper was thrown in with these two.

Alex Jones and Michael moore are more then likely (well funded) pawns in my honest opinion, But Bill Cooper was a true patriot who died for his country.

He deserves more respect then too be branded a maverick and thrown into the same category as these other two morons.

[Phosphene_Sparks]

IMHO Jones is the only one with any real substance due to the fact that what he says can be backed up usually by triplicate documents.

His films are also an eyeopener and much of what he has predicted over the past 10 years has become a reality. It is hella scary but then that's the world we live in.

I suggest that if you don't know Jones that you go to www.infowars.com and listen to his radio stationa nd read some the the articles.

Also, check this link, you should find a few of his films there.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...es&emb=0&aq=f#

Best Wishes

M

[Ashatav]

Originally Posted by Phosphene_Sparks

IMHO Jones is the only one with any real substance due to the fact that what he says can be backed up usually by triplicate documents.

His films are also an eyeopener and much of what he has predicted over the past 10 years has become a reality. It is hella scary but then that's the world we live in.

I suggest that if you don't know Jones that you go to www.infowars.com and listen to his radio stationa nd read some the the articles.

Also, check this link, you should find a few of his films there.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...es&emb=0&aq=f#

Best Wishes

M

Hi, but is a topic who Alex Jones Never touch, and he has pointed by Leo Zagami as a coadjuntor.

The topic about the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta.

Research these topics.

They are who bring down the twin towers, they are the real power behind de secret societies.

Rockeffelers, Rothchilds, presidents and CIA chiefs, all illuminati Knights of Malta.

The Knights of Malta are servants of the Vatican.

The vatican serves the Jesuits!

Infórmate!

Cheers!

[Bernd]

Not to forget Jordan Maxwell... It's incredible how deep this man went in his research...

[googleboy]

Originally Posted by Bernd

Not to forget Jordan Maxwell... It's incredible how deep this man went in his research...

also is incredible how many many mistakes this man has made .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwugLx2rSJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fr3Etam50o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG39Jj8b1Dw

.....etc....


be well
GB

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[Dadrious]

Let's not put Michael Moore in the same category as Bill Cooper. One is a disinfo agent and one was murdered for being a true American patriot.

Originally Posted by googleboy

also is incredible how many many mistakes this man has made .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwugLx2rSJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fr3Etam50o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG39Jj8b1Dw

.....etc....


be well
GB

***

These videos are garbage.

"You need to go back and do your homework." - Jordan Maxwell

[Son of Eire]

Originally Posted by Dadrious

Let's not put Michael Moore in the same category as Bill Cooper. One is a disinfo agent and one was murdered for being a true American patriot.




These videos are garbage.

"You need to go back and do your homework." - Jordan Maxwell

I agree 100%

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

jones goes nuts because he is tyhe first line of fire to educate the mases of the sheeple. imagine knowing this was coming for 10 yerars and living in country populated by 90% dumbed down morons(no fault of their own). jordan maxwell has known whars coming for the last 48 years.. between these two you get all the info you need..
period

LOL michael moore
its mad when you understand the game, painting the NRA as maniacs, now we know better. all the people we thought were baddies are goodies and vice versa. mugabe (not supporting him) for instance has a broke country due what the uk has done to it.. disarmihg americans isnt going to happen mr OBAMA.. get ready usa its gonna go off like a fire cracker!!

[googleboy]

Originally Posted by Dadrious

These videos are garbage.

"You need to go back and do your homework." - Jordan Maxwell

did your comment help someone
did your comment guide someone
did your comment had sense tone

ARE YOU HERE TO PICK A FIGHT ?
ARE YOU HERE TO PRACTICE BAD HUMOR ?

anyway ...

be well
GB

****

Alex has awakened many many people. But - just to the "physical" NWO. Not the spiritual war that is going on too.

BUT - I post over there too and they are so focused on the FEAR and they ridicule ANYTHING about aliens, UFO's, etc.

Or if you question Christianity.

I keep saying "Alex is waking up" on this thread and they keep deleting it!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=63494.0

Fascinating....

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by googleboy

did your comment help someone
did your comment guide someone
did your comment had sense tone

ARE YOU HERE TO PICK A FIGHT ?
ARE YOU HERE TO PRACTICE BAD HUMOR ?

anyway ...

be well
GB

****

I am sorry to say, dude:
I agree 1000000000000% with Dadrious.

Jordan Maxwell is a fine researcher and he deserves
respect and recognition.

Today, a lot of those under the 'Limelight' were eating pablum when he began his research.
Go see his site, and check for yourself.

salute.

[googleboy]

[QUOTE=... fine researcher and he deserves
respect and recognition.
[/QUOTE]

yes I agree,..as a person,but work itself should be questioned and there is nothing bad or vicious in it ...

[QUOTE=
Today, a lot of those under the 'Limelight' were eating pablum when he began his research.
Go see his site, and check for yourself.
[/QUOTE]

simple fact that he is 72 and I m 45 is nothing .. he begin earlier ...
that is GOD FOR HIM for starters...

so what if we have been eating pablum at the time ? does it mean that we should take anything served as a... TV diner? no questions asked?

and YES I had maxwell books before he has the site ... we are more than 15 years "spaciren" together ....

but that one doesnt gave me a RIGHT to preach to anybody , I just want people to research by THEMSELF.

QUESTION EVERYTHING !!


be well
GB

*****

[GoingToFast]

I do not understand when someone is calling Alex Jones an agent of the oppressors, after listening to many of his broadcasts on the net and seeing many of his films it is absolutely clear to me that he is on our side, the ordinary people that struggles to survive in this hole NWO mess. I also do not understand why people try to make Jones Moore Cooper Icke and Maxwell out as antagonists, they are simply attacking the problems from different angels that does not automatically make them into enemies.

[Phosphene_Sparks]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

I do not understand when someone is calling Alex Jones an agent of the oppressors, after listening to many of his broadcasts on the net and seeing many of his films it is absolutely clear to me that he is on our side, the ordinary people that struggles to survive in this hole NWO mess. I also do not understand why people try to make Jones Moore Cooper Icke and Maxwell out as antagonists, they are simply attacking the problems from different angels that does not automatically make them into enemies.

Well put.

I will add one comment about the fear aspect of Alex Jones. Yes, it is scary. But then cruel cruel hard reality often is. Look at the savanna for example.

I think people need to tune in to the fact that, as a species we really aren't very far evolved from a pure state of nature in our thinking and actions.

Best Wishes

M

[TAXMASTER]

obviously nobody here has studied the jfk assassination thoroughly or they wouldn't have such wonderful things to say about bill cooper. he used blurry old faded copies of the zapruder film to futher his theory that the driver shot jfk. it was absolutely preposterous. first, any good copy of the film clearly shows the sun shining on the passenger SS man's head is the same glare that cooper claims was a gun. Second, there was a glass partition between the connelys and the fron seat where the secret service sat and if the driver fired a shot, it would have exploded the glass in fact you can see the connellys head bounce against it when the brakes were applied.

i have studied this assassination for 30 years and consider myself competant in the subject and guys like cooper have given "conspiracy theorists" a bad personna. if he twisted the truth in other events like he did with jfk, how can anyone deem him as credible.

Namaste'

[peacelovinman]

Originally Posted by TAXMASTER

obviously nobody here has studied the jfk assassination thoroughly or they wouldn't have such wonderful things to say about bill cooper. he used blurry old faded copies of the zapruder film to futher his theory that the driver shot jfk. it was absolutely preposterous. first, any good copy of the film clearly shows the sun shining on the passenger SS man's head is the same glare that cooper claims was a gun. Second, there was a glass partition between the connelys and the fron seat where the secret service sat and if the driver fired a shot, it would have exploded the glass in fact you can see the connellys head bounce against it when the brakes were applied.

i have studied this assassination for 30 years and consider myself competant in the subject and guys like cooper have given "conspiracy theorists" a bad personna. if he twisted the truth in other events like he did with jfk, how can anyone deem him as credible.

Namaste'

I am a fan of Cooper's but I am not in agreement with his thesis on the JFK assasination.

However, he was a dedicated man in attempting to get unpalatable truth to ordinary folks. He was talking about the New World Order long before the likes of Jones and Michael Moore were on the scene. His information came from the "inside", as he served with Naval Intelligence and was associated with the De Molay movement as a young man. His association with De Molay may indicate that his family may have a masonic history? (he himself believed he was chosen for intelligence work due to his prior membership of De Molay -they saw him as the "right" kind of person).

I do not believe he twisted the JFK "truth" for his own benefit but I do believe he was wrong in this instance. However, I have never seen the logic in throwing out the baby with the bathwater. This doesn't mean all Cooper's research should be disregarded and his intentions should be admired, in my opinion.

If you have studied the JFK assasination for 30 years, have you concluded that the official explanation is truth or otherwise? If you have concluded "otherwise", how successful have you been in passing on your research to folks at large?

I am genuinely interested as I believe JFK and 9/11 are the best examples to show people that governments lie and deceive (at the very least) to achieve their aims.