Getting pretty ridiculous

[justpeter]

Originally Posted by Ross H

If they do become members and exhibit traits that are not conducive to the overall vibe of the community they will be shown the door.

I would humbly suggest that a more effective form of ethics be used, such as communicating with the person to find out why he/she behaves in such a manner, help them to see why they are acting inappropriately and give him/her a chance to apologise and change their behaviour. Only when all else fails, kick them out.

I've been there, done that, bought the T-shirt - trust me, I know.

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by justpeter

I would humbly suggest that a more effective form of ethics be used, such as communicating with the person to find out why he/she behaves in such a manner, help them to see why they are acting inappropriately and give him/her a chance to apologise and change their behaviour. Only when all else fails, kick them out.

I've been there, done that, bought the T-shirt - trust me, I know.

This is how we do things, members recieve PM's outlining the concerns. Always the path of understanding and communication is given.

This will also continue with AV2...frankly Im surprised you would think otherwise.

Sincerely

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by Ross H

This is how we do things, members recieve PM's outlining the concerns. Always the path of understanding and communication is given.

Is this how you would characterize how the members above "in the mist" were treated?

I know for a fact that at least one member from my op was given no warning or reason for his mistification.

Originally Posted by burgundia

I guess the timelines are splitting too..choose wisely on which one you want to be...

Yup burgundia's right. Think very carefully when making your choice people.

Originally Posted by Ross H

Its like this...There is enough crap and b/s in the real world that we live in, so, this will be a place that offers peace and goodwill to kindred spirits who wish for a place to gather and chill and contribute. Its that simple.

I understand and respect that Ross, it does sound nice honestly, but what will it take, what has it already taken to ge there?

Will it all have been worth it?

Were there more honest ways to attain this goal (that might have taken just a bit longer)?

Are you sure that you (anyone in the position) want to make judgements on the worth of people you barely know?

Originally Posted by justpeter

Yeah, this worries me too. I spent over 15 years in Scientology and those guys are HOT on Ethics.

Yikes. That seems to be a theme among...nevermind.

Good night pa (wonder if I wake up in the mists, hmm will sleep with my headlamp and rain gear on ).

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by raulduke

Is this how you would characterize how the members above "in the mist" were treated?

I know for a fact that at least one member from my op was given no warning or reason for his mistification.

Bumping, would like an answer here.

Originally Posted by Ross H

This will also continue with AV2...frankly Im surprised you would think otherwise.

I don't know why you're surprised at members' concerns here. It's seems pretty that obvious we're getting a preview here of how av2 will operate, which right now to me, sounds like a bunch of vapid 'enlightened' people patting each other on the back, ever carefully watching their words for fear of accidentally saying something controversial and getting booted.

Personally I don't want to be part of any society where my worth is constantly being reevaluated/judged by some high panel of self appointed 'enlightened' beings.

[hobbit]

Yawn,
Fiddling whilst Rome burns.
Hobbit

[Nebula9D]

Wow..i just noticed this post. Yeah men, Anchor, Luminari, Jonah, UncleJohn, MyPlanet2, Helvetic, Eleni are all in the mist..you know... why... for speaking up. Spregovori resigned, Futureeyes, Murda, Gnosis5, Carol and now Karen are leaving. Oh i also noticed, Northern Boy is not a mod anymore!? .. Leaves one asking wtf?
Asking for the Truth is an honest endeavor, no matter if you are mod or not.

I'm all for the new AV 2.0 and sticking to the original spirit and intend thereof, that's why we are all here and all would agree. But the events of late, makes people hesitant to continue on with AV 2.0, good intentions and all.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Originally Posted by Nebula9D

Wow..i just noticed this post. Yeah men, Anchor, Luminari, Jonah, UncleJohn, MyPlanet2, Helvetic, Eleni are all in the mist..you know... why... for speaking up. Spregovori resigned, Futureeyes, Murda, Gnosis5, Carol and now Karen are leaving. Oh i also noticed, Northern Boy is not a mod anymore!? .. Leaves one asking wtf?
Asking for the Truth is an honest endeavor, no matter if you are mod or not.

I'm all for the new AV 2.0 and sticking to the original spirit and intend thereof, that's why we are all here and all would agree. But the events of late, makes people hesitant to continue on with AV 2.0, good intentions and all.

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

JT!

[Nebula9D]

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

JT!

In to the mist i guess!

[Harper]

When all is lost thats the moment to look about you and remember that you are a human being and this is the moment of confusion,

The moment when all the confusions combine, take a second and you will see you, that you are the one looking at you.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Harper

When all is lost thats the moment to look about you and remember that you are a human being and this is the moment of confusion,

The moment when all the confusions combine, take a second and you will see you, that you are the one looking at you.

SAID, like a true frenchman

[Greetings]

I've been coming closer to it as my joining in Avalon here began

And after reading this thread, I think I have begun to understand

That free speech is burdened not with judgement or second thoughts

It is as free as you or me, he or she - a mind with a single cot.


Your world is debasing, it is changing still

As it always has, As it always will

Only those, that resist Change's words

Will cry for allies, to maintain the same herds


Look within and you shall reveal

A mind that clasps down tight

Upon All the answers and endless meals

That will fill thee full with might


A forum not holdeth the keynote answer

But shine a light for a speck to be seen

Whilst allowing the gaping and gawking cancer

To seep out, in, above, and below

Killing while being so keen.



Thank you for insights and helpful thoughts, but the fully light of truth can be seen in your mind through deep concentration

"A wise man knows he knows nothing."

[raulduke]

Looks like mods are keeping their heads down, I really would like an answer to this though, as the more I think about it, the more hypocritical it seems.

Originally Posted by raulduke

Is this how you would characterize how the members above "in the mist" were treated?

I know for a fact that at least one member from my op was given no warning or reason for his mistification.

Where was the understanding and communication?

Ross, I'm sorry but the more I think about that response, the more I think you must think we are pretty stupid if you expect us to believe that, with all that's been happening here.

Seems like mods are trying to keep something under wraps until they can sneak out the back door (av2) at which point it won't matter anymore?
If some corners were cut, deals were made, whatever, the truth needs to be told.

I know it probably doesn't matter to any mods really, but I want to say that I've lost alot of respect I had for any mods still here in the wake of all the shady unexplained mistifications.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by raulduke

Seems like mods are trying to keep something under wraps .

it is really sad, but to me it is like :"You want to know the truth? You can't handle the truth"...

[Harper]

MIST is the german word for dung or manuure......just thought Id mention it.

Btw exchanger, Im a girl hehehehehe

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Harper

MIST is the german word for dung or manuure......just thought Id mention it.

Btw exchanger, Im a girl hehehehehe

And Irish!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

JT!

thankfully JT it is still all on your thread
THANK YOU

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Ross H

If they do become members and exhibit traits that are not conducive to the overall vibe of the community they will be shown the door.

From the "New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?" thread:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Seashore, you are not doing anyone a service (least of all yourself) by perpetuating this negative energy. Please stop it.

I believe I've been "shown the door" already.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I believe I've been "shown the door" already.

And I was unable to enter for some time....

[swordsmith]

well, anyone got any ideas on where to meet? The kind of forum I want is one with all the mystified people. Thanks for making it easier . I was almost feeling like a horrible person for sticking my neck out on this infantile erasure crap but now I feel more than ever like sticking to my swords, and I am actually a very loving person.
I am a complete computard or I would make suggestions on starting another location. sheesh, Av2 ??? its just too damn much like Internet 2, makes ya laugh eh? I mean not a good laugh exactly.... more of a" heh heh" Beavis and Butthead style one .
I would feel very happy to be in the company of everyone mentioned on the hit list and those leaving. wow if Mudra is going that speaks volumes, a more tolerant person i have yet to encounter, and I would like to more from Gnosis.
Leave that av 2 to the ones who have that agenda. goodluck with that. but oh it is just too funny, what part of Pluto in Capricorn don't people understand?

[wynderer]

Hi All -- this will be my only post about this topic:

a friend of mine, when i told her i was thinking of posting on the PC &/or PA forums, told me that she had posted here for a while but 'there were too many agents' -- every forum i've been active on, has had its share of thread disruptors, but PC/PA seem to have more than their share

a rule of thumb for me: the more the truth/the Light [individuals or groups], the more the interference

what puzzles me is how many posters diss or are negative about Bill & Kerry, particularly Kerry -- has it never occurred to you that there wouldn't be a forum to post on if not for the work of these two? seems like a case of biting the hand that feeds you

the same goes for the attacks on some of the PC interviewees, on their veracity : Where else can you go to watch/listen to so many hi-level people talk , learn stuff that you won't find anywhere else, & have a chance to make up your own minds about the info presented, w/the advantage of being able to read the body language & see the eyes?

-- & then to attack Bill & Kerry because some of the interviewees may be questionable -- how many of you detractors have spent all that time & work, travelling all over the world, mostly at your own expense, to film interviews, & then come home & spend more time & work putting the interviews on a free website? --

to attack those who do this for you because some they interview some who contradict each other or whatever -- this seems childish to me [speaking to you non-nwo-aligned Humans here -- not addressing this to you Reptilians, & esp not to you Dracos -- wink, smile]

also -- i think most of us agree that Earth humans are facing the biggest challenge in your history: Your survival as a species [&, imo, the survival of your individual souls for too many of you] -- as far as priorities go, i'd put this one at the top -- Bill & Kerry & i'm sure many of the mods & obviously quite a few posters on the forums are fighting on the Good Side in this war

i don't know what is going right now on re changes to the forum -- & i don't really want to know [ i have enough on my own plate right now] [smile] -- i see both Bill & Kerry as visionaries & dreamers, & draw the same to them -- when i first visited the forum, early on, the -- intent -? - the vibration of intent to form community was very strong -- as all who are trying to do this on any level know, the darkside/nwo is working hard to thwart all such efforts --United we stand, divided we fall --

an online community of those of the Light working together --especially w/our powers of mind begonning to increase -- quite the threat to the nwo --whatever changes are being made to stay on that course [this being a pioneer effort, of course there will be mistakes] -- my prayers for all your efforts

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by Ross H

I said the word 'truth' will prevail as exactly that, truth.

I came here to learn, help and give my time. This forum was the best forum I had found that I wanted to be a part of due to its vision and agenda. This was before it became 'free for all'. Since then it has taken a different path, 'feel' and purpose from what I originaly signed up for.

This is exactly the way I feel. I want to be part of something real in this world. I dont know what I would do if I thought there was no good in it at all.

Yes there has been a certain degradation since it became free to post. When I sign on sometimes I will look through the "New Posts" and find nothing of interest. I suppose that will happen from time to time.

I have been highly critical of the mod team at times and I was not banned. This tells me that they do want truth and justice. There is a higher calling here at Avalon and that is what attracted me to it to begin with.

I have never been abducted by aliens (to my knowledge) nor seen one, Never been involved in GVT black ops, I have never seen a DUMB, never astral traveled, never been brought to a place of higher conscienceness (even when I took LSD as a kid), and I can still only see one sun. There is really nothing special about me at all (outside of a few common talents). However, I still feel that there must be a reality outside this world that we cant see. I feel that we have been handed a line of bunk from the PTB and I want to know the truth. When I first found out what our world is really like it made me want out. That is why I got so upset with the bannings.

If I am not invited to contribute in the new forum I hope I am still allowed to read the posts. I know I still have a lot to learn and I hope I am not shut out completely.

[xbusymom]

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

This is exactly the way I feel. I want to be part of something real in this world. I dont know what I would do if I thought there was no good in it at all.

Yes there has been a certain degradation since it became free to post. When I sign on sometimes I will look through the "New Posts" and find nothing of interest. I suppose that will happen from time to time.

I have been highly critical of the mod team at times and I was not banned. This tells me that they do want truth and justice. There is a higher calling here at Avalon and that is what attracted me to it to begin with.

I have never been abducted by aliens (to my knowledge) nor seen one, Never been involved in GVT black ops, I have never seen a DUMB, never astral traveled, never been brought to a place of higher conscienceness (even when I took LSD as a kid), and I can still only see one sun. There is really nothing special about me at all (outside of a few common talents). However, I still feel that there must be a reality outside this world that we cant see. I feel that we have been handed a line of bunk from the PTB and I want to know the truth. When I first found out what our world is really like it made me want out. That is why I got so upset with the bannings.

If I am not invited to contribute in the new forum I hope I am still allowed to read the posts. I know I still have a lot to learn and I hope I am not shut out completely.

i am still a fairly new 'newbie' and would like to put my 2 cents worth in - if i may-

at first i was upset at the thought of A2 becoming a separate 'clique', but after i pondered on it awhile- it kind of makes sense...

if we keep A1 as an entrance gate (open to all) for the purpose of attracting 'the freshly awoken' to see the information, learn and grow, then- it would naturally follow that A2 would be better utilized and set up as the 'more committed/more activist-ed' group that could get projects up and running... jmho

[lawlessline]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqW362EUXWY
LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY EVERYONE; I WILL ONY SAY THIS ONCE.

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