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Old 03-07-2010, 05:00 PM   #1
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"Even if every other word was true, how can you justify point #5? It doesn't matter if 2 or 3 or 10 people can discern something. Why would you deny the rest the opportunity? The weak fall prey to monsters of that description, because the WANT to. Because they have BEEN such monsters in the past, and are trying on the other shoe. Because they are learning about compassion and want a close up look. Because they favour truth and honesty and want to contrast it with manipulation and deceptions, to see the full spread."

I stand corrected.

I should have said, "His banishment is justified IMHO"


There have been trolls on Avalon since I started lurking in '08. This one is much more intellectual and thought provoking. But he needs to be exposed for what he is, a troll. Here is the problem IMHO, members that have been hurt by this troll are not the type that verbally attack trolls on a public forum. They went to the mods and revealed his perversion. He's a fraud. Plain and simple.

But your right, let the weak fall prey to this troll "because the WANT to". What a statement. I suppose a rape victim WANTS to be raped.

Deception is everywhere and it's gaining momentum in this crazy world. I wont deny you the "opportunity" to learn from a troll.

Bring the manipulative troll back!

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Old 03-07-2010, 05:05 PM   #2
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But your right, let the weak fall prey to this troll "because the WANT to". What a statement. I suppose a rape victim WANTS to be raped.

Deception is everywhere and it's gaining momentum in this crazy world. I wont deny you the "opportunity" to learn from a troll.


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Well said Pete!

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Old 03-07-2010, 05:10 PM   #3
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Yeah...well said, Pete. I think discernment is the big lesson to be learned here, and unfortunately in the real world, there will not be moderators to help the individual distinguish between a server/deceiver. There is a lot of egotism bellowing out of this site at the moment, but those of us who use this site for its usefulness can disregard the drama and learn from it.

But I can say that if I shut people out of my life every time I disagreed with them, I would be sitting on a rock by myself.
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As a former moderator of this forum I will add that 95 percent of the threads that are currently posted on the Avalon General Forum do not belong there and are not in keeping with the mission of the Avalon. Because there are so many "new" moderators, clean-up may not have been a priority but it should be as these threads need to be sorted out and put into the other forums they are best suited for. The Thuban thread should have been in the Off Topic Forum, if at all allowed on this website. Please remember, Bill wanting the thread closed was based on what his intention was when this forum was created and as the forum founder. If anyone here knows what-is-what, it is Bill when it comes to what is an appropriate thread and what is not.

gita, the photos you posted are inappropriate and should be deleted. Bottom line... there are some types of humor which are not appropriate for this forum and those pictures crossed the line. I would expect something like that to be posted Proxywhore or GLP. This forum has a different set of standards and those standards need to be honored.

As for the Thuban thread... I trust Bill on this one. Had the thread stayed closed this other fallout may not have happened. Yet, at the time, I too was in favor of not closing threads and now see I was wrong. Yes, we are sexual beings, yet bringing sexual content into this forum when the whole intent and purpose is about groundcrews, self-sufficiency and planning for earth changes is completely off-topic and not appropriate to Avalon's mission.

I for one would like to see people get back on track. Currently, with so much thread clutter, it is almost impossible to have any real thread discussions related to the primary intention of the Avalon Forum. I would rather see discussions on what people are doing to prepare for these coming earth changes. Are folks working on underground structures and if so what type? What types of air filtrations systems are being designed or are available? How is water being stored? Are folks into different ways of producing food that is effective? Avalon is about day-to-day survival for a difficult time ahead. This is where energy needs to be going. Self-exploration is for the spirituality forum. These other off-topic threads are a distraction from doing what really needs to be done now for planning ahead.

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And moderators... good luck. You have my support and deepest sympathies. No one likes being a target when it comes time to set boundaries.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:04 PM   #5
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gita, the photos you posted are inappropriate and should be deleted. Bottom line... there are some types of humor which are not appropriate for this forum and those pictures crossed the line. I would expect something like that to be posted Proxywhore or GLP. This forum has a different set of standards and those standards need to be honored.
Dear Carol, thank you for your input and your opinion. With respect, I don’t see how using pictures of ‘Celebrities’ playing characters which have been seen by people of all ages worldwide is inappropriate and offensive. It’s not as if I plucked the pics from a pornographic site! It was done in good clean humour to break up the ego wars that was going on earlier on this thread. I personally find “"do her in the ass" "cum dumpsters"” extremely offensive and inappropriate but allowed the person to express themselves in the only way they know how.

I’ve had quite a lot of people saying how hilarious they found it and that it helped to break the negative energy that was circulating this thread. For this reason, I will not remove the humour as you kindly suggest but if any mods would like to back one of their own and remove it then they are welcomed to do so.

Much love to you my dear friend. x
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:07 PM   #6
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king A and the one,
who was rumered to lance a lot
are both mine

good news ~ jesus is still UP for grabs
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:11 PM   #7
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Thank you morguana!
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:11 PM   #8
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is there not enough pain in this world?
anyone else up for changing this?
coz i cant do it on my own

thank you Gevaudan and stardust, im glad someone else gets it

i send YOU ALL my love, and you need to pass it forward

love and big hugs m x
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:30 PM   #10
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U are in your own way.

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Old 03-07-2010, 06:33 PM   #11
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love and laughter.........thats a start

may you all walk in peace and joy.......we are all alive
i thank the divine every day for this


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U are in your own way.
What the matter Great Work...

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Old 03-07-2010, 07:02 PM   #13
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:31 PM   #14
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Shh...quiet now.....Everything will work out

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Old 03-07-2010, 06:38 PM   #15
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We are multidimensional. We exist on multiple levels at the same time. On some level, we are creators of our reality. Look at all the suffering. Does that come from without, or from within? I've run most of my own this lifetime drama's of this sort, and in each instance, discovered not only my turn as victim, but also as perp, and then also my decision on a soul/higher self level, to arrange these experiences, including the recruiting of other players. There are no accidents, including traffic accidents, although when you're in one, you can't see how this was arranged and how you thought it would be a good idea.

Nothing in my comments or viewpoints tries to negate the actual hurt, or pain, or trauma. Simply the idea that it came from without. That's never happened, and never will. Impossible, actually.

And again, this is on a different frequency of reality, which is largely hidden from the experiencer.
so we just let the bullies run a riot..and all is just fine...and because it is decided on another, unpercieveable dimension anyway ...

spiritually irresponsible - this theory


p. s. won't someone get bill?

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I personally think there is a moral issue if we are aware that someone is hurting others and we let them

I think that when we do not do anything we become acomplices of the offenders specially if we perceive that the victims do not have the ability to handle the issues themselves

We are one big body that encompases the planet, we have to care for each other without intruding and respecting each others boundaries otherwise there will be a very grim future for us as we rapidly seem to be going towards our self demise as race

The planet and all that is in the planet is suffering mostly because of our own abuse, are we going to destroy it all for the sake of free will?

Free will does not mean free for all and when we abuse the energy laws we are left wanting and eventually dry...think about it

What benefit is this whole discussion bringing to the beings in this planet?

Isn't is only bringing disharmony that eventually will manifest as more destruction?

We can not turn our heads anymore, we must do what is balanced for the highest good of all

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I personally think there is a moral issue if we are aware that someone is hurting others and we let them

I think that when we do not do anything we become acomplices of the offenders specially if we perceive that the victims do not have the ability to handle the issues themselves

We are one big body that encompases the planet, we have to care for each other without intruding and respecting each others boundaries otherwise there will be a very grim future for us as we rapidly seem to be going towards our self demise as race

The planet and all that is in the planet is suffering mostly because of our own abuse, are we going to destroy it all for the sake of free will?

Free will does not mean free for all and when we abuse the energy laws we are left wanting and eventually dry...think about it

What benefit is this whole discussion bringing to the beings in this planet?

Isn't is only bringing disharmony that eventually will manifest as more destruction?

We can not turn our heads anymore, we must do what is balanced for the highest good of all

Love to all
Once again .................another great post by StarDust. It happens so much lately, I keep saying , I'm done but Im right back in here. Why, because there are people like you, LionHawk and others that truly do care.

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so we just let the bullies run a riot..and all is just fine...and because it is decided on another, unpercieveable dimension anyway ...

spiritually irresponsible - this theory


p. s. won't someone get bill?

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We have full free will and ability to manifest whatever we want, including bullies. The bullies volunteer, the bullied volunteer, and the law of attraction puts the pieces together. You can believe it's not so all you like. That won't change it. This is the current template, and we all signed up for it, if we're here.

There is no such thing as spiritually irresponsible. Any more than there is victim. There is free will and choice, even when they are used to deny oneself free will and choice. Nobody else can do it.
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We have full free will and ability to manifest whatever we want, including bullies. The bullies volunteer, the bullied volunteer, and the law of attraction puts the pieces together. You can believe it's not so all you like. That won't change it. This is the current template, and we all signed up for it, if we're here.

There is no such thing as spiritually irresponsible. Any more than there is victim. There is free will and choice, even when they are used to deny oneself free will and choice. Nobody else can do it.
What if, and I say if, you are half right? What if our "soul" our "free will" has been imprisoned by who knows what. When we expire (in this 3d world) we are then reprogrammed to either be the victim, the bully, or whatever "it"/"they" like (harvested) and then sent back to 3d so we can keep performing for it/them in the 3d world, perhaps feeding them energy? Just a thought.
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You know, I swore I wasn't going to log on today...

However, on logging on , I found that my consciousness had created a twelve page thread on Abraxinas in my two day absence.

I could almost swear that I had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever... but that all depends on how you believe the universe works.

Wow. "What is it trying to tell me?", I wondered.

I mean I could have logged in and found everyone talking about small fluffy animals, or the latest sweet potato curry recipe.

But no, it seems that after a week of downed forums and an argument (perhaps) between our foster parents, what my wonderful subconsciousness, or the subconsciousness of the universe (for they are the same , innit?) wants is... more of the same.

As in, same poo, different day. Can I even say 'poo' here? Don't wish to be scattalogically offensive.

Anyway, I thought Abraxinas originally had something to do with Abraxas, one of my altime favourite albums by Santana. Check it out if you have Spotify or some such.

When my first glance at the original thread revealed that this was not about slashing guitar solos, I wandered away. Because I don't generally understand or 'get' channeled or privy information that can only be got from a single source.

In my life, truth is a truth wherever you find it, and discovery of that truth is a truth for all, if I tell you about it, you should be able to verify for yourself that it is indeed a truth for you too. You may have noticed, but these kinds of truth are quite small on the ground, and generally quite simple.

Would anyone here deny the existence of love? Of how it feels, to feel love for someone, or to feel loved by someone. To feel love for the human race, or for plants, or animals or rocks, or parsnips?

So I'm fairly happy in my own mind that love is a truth. What point would there be in me discussing anything else that I'm not sure of?

Well, love and music. That's two truths for me then.

well, love, music, and sunshine..makes you feel good, that's three truths,

Love, music, sunshine and a sense of community.

Er, I'll come in again... [Monty Python's spanish inquisition reference ]

A sense of community. That would be nice. That's why I log in, because I'm willing to believe that a sense of community is what the human race is missing. I don't know this. This last one is an exploration. That's why I joined.

See? I've got my hand up. Anyone else looking for that too?

To see that the human race is one community, the 'good' and the 'bad' is to place us all in the same boat. there is no them, there is no us, there is no 'shesaid...' there is no 'hesaid...' whatever you like about A, you like about yourself. Whatever you dislike about B, you detest in yourself. This is a simple truth that is working for me.

So how can I be angry about him or her, how can I say this to them (me?) ?

In the words of that Radiohead song (you do it to yourself, you do..you and no one else)

Peace and love to you all,

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P.S. I'm putting in an order to my subconscious about small fluffy white animals and recipes next time I'm away.
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You know, I swore I wasn't going to log on today...

However, on logging on , I found that my consciousness had created a twelve page thread on Abraxinas in my two day absence.

I could almost swear that I had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever... but that all depends on how you believe the universe works.

Wow. "What is it trying to tell me?", I wondered.

I mean I could have logged in and found everyone talking about small fluffy animals, or the latest sweet potato curry recipe.

But no, it seems that after a week of downed forums and an argument (perhaps) between our foster parents, what my wonderful subconsciousness, or the subconsciousness of the universe (for they are the same , innit?) wants is... more of the same.

As in, same poo, different day. Can I even say 'poo' here? Don't wish to be scattalogically offensive.

Anyway, I thought Abraxinas originally had something to do with Abraxas, one of my altime favourite albums by Santana. Check it out if you have Spotify or some such.

When my first glance at the original thread revealed that this was not about slashing guitar solos, I wandered away. Because I don't generally understand or 'get' channeled or privy information that can only be got from a single source.

In my life, truth is a truth wherever you find it, and discovery of that truth is a truth for all, if I tell you about it, you should be able to verify for yourself that it is indeed a truth for you too. You may have noticed, but these kinds of truth are quite small on the ground, and generally quite simple.

Would anyone here deny the existence of love? Of how it feels, to feel love for someone, or to feel loved by someone. To feel love for the human race, or for plants, or animals or rocks, or parsnips?

So I'm fairly happy in my own mind that love is a truth. What point would there be in me discussing anything else that I'm not sure of?

Well, love and music. That's two truths for me then.

well, love, music, and sunshine..makes you feel good, that's three truths,

Love, music, sunshine and a sense of community.

Er, I'll come in again... [Monty Python's spanish inquisition reference ]

A sense of community. That would be nice. That's why I log in, because I'm willing to believe that a sense of community is what the human race is missing. I don't know this. This last one is an exploration. That's why I joined.

See? I've got my hand up. Anyone else looking for that too?

To see that the human race is one community, the 'good' and the 'bad' is to place us all in the same boat. there is no them, there is no us, there is no 'shesaid...' there is no 'hesaid...' whatever you like about A, you like about yourself. Whatever you dislike about B, you detest in yourself. This is a simple truth that is working for me.

So how can I be angry about him or her, how can I say this to them (me?) ?

In the words of that Radiohead song (you do it to yourself, you do..you and no one else)

Peace and love to you all,

K

P.S. I'm putting in an order to my subconscious about small fluffy white animals and recipes next time I'm away.
My hand is up on community. We just have some bumps to iron out on the way. The idea of "what bumps" is getting harder to maintain.
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Reposting other member's sexually offensive posts is equally offensive and all such posts need to be reported to the moderators.

The Thuban thread has been moved to the moderator's area where it cannot be viewed by the members, not deleted.
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Wait, can you hear it?


It's a sucking sound of energy draining. People are distracted and their energy is being sucked by this chaos. Again, complete waste of time and energy to keep this going.

Chaos was the purpose and the sheeple fall into it so easily.

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What if, and I say if, you are half right? What if our "soul" our "free will" has been imprisoned by who knows what. When we expire (in this 3d world) we are then reprogrammed to either be the victim, the bully, or whatever "it"/"they" like (harvested) and then sent back to 3d so we can keep performing for it/them in the 3d world, perhaps feeding them energy? Just a thought.
And it's a legit question. (BTW, ODM? Is that you???) But no, it's not like that, unless of course you've contracted with some entity or entity group to perform just such a mirroring exercise for you. Free will always. even and especially when it appears otherwise.

From your higher seats of consciousness, you know everything you could possibly want to. As you contact and start to restore your connections in that regard, you become rather fool proof, because your true self knows what is truly going on, and knows of it's experiments and "arrangements".

If you believe you have some question about whether there is a hidden hand up your butt (metaphorically speaking) then it's easy enough to discern, provided you can hear the answer. You simply ask. Just picture yourself turning around and demanding "hey!!...you there in the bushes!!...show and identify yourself." It has no choice but to comply, but don't be surprised to hear "you asked for it".

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Why is my thread "Thuban Thoughts" still missing? This was not a thread started by abraxasinas...and it contained nothing of a sexual nature...or anything which could conceivably be a legal problem...especially regarding the stated reasons for the banning of abraxasinas and the threads started by abraxasinas. This was my work...and it has been deleted. I asked why this occurred at the beginning of this thread...but there has been no official response of any kind. I just finished reading page after page of childish fighting. What the hell is going on here?
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