Amen Ra - Page 3

Jacqui D · 03-11-2010, 11:31 PM

Present day Oxy is a little closer to home i feel.
Look to the land of King arthur and our founding forum!
Me i'm a simple girl with a brain to match lol!

orthodoxymoron · 02-08-2010, 10:12 PM

Consider God/Satan, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer. I'm almost afraid to really dig into this...and I've been putting it off. There's the 'book answers'...and then there are the 'real answers'. It's the potential 'real answers' that are frightening me. As I've stated elsewhere...my New Theology is Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction...and very non-traditional. Most of religion and history is BS...but there is still the underlying truth...which should not be ignored. Hathor may be the key to Enki as Goddess. I'm not sure why...but it sounded cool!

Here is a very interesting music video...which I keep referring back to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU Also...here is a Stargate SG-1 episode titled 'Hathor'. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor Listen very carefully to what gets said in this episode. But heck...why not get the 'truth' straight from the horse's mouth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEgoXieg0E Here is a rather dull link which contains a few tidbits of interesting information. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoPg3...eature=related
Could this pretty preacher (I'm in love!

) approximate a modern manifestation of Hathor? http://pastormelissascott.com/ Do a little research on this last one. You'll be amazed...

Namaste

lisa · 02-08-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

...modern manifestation of Hathor?

Supriem's girlfriend's name is Hathor: http://servicetoone.wordpress.com/2009/05/10/chapter4/

orthodoxymoron · 02-09-2010, 01:05 AM

Thank-you lisa. I started to read this site some time ago and got sidetracked. I am now reading the whole thing. I don't know how much of it is true. I don't know how much of anything is really true! I'm thinking that there may be a real link between the Archangels and the Ancient Gods and Goddesses. Is Hathor the All Seeing Eye aka Eye of Ra? Was Ra killed? Did Hathor kill Ra? Is the Dog Star Sirius the Illumination behind the All Seeing Eye? Was the Sun God Ra from Sirius? Sirius is Central...right? Is Horus representative of Michael aka Jesus? Chapter 5 of the linked site is also fascinating! http://servicetoone.wordpress.com/ca...pter-v-part-2/

Namaste

lightblue · 01-10-2010, 05:50 PM

your dreams are most interesting, thanks for sharing
best wishes

WinterWolf · 01-11-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

Micjer,

I don't know. Could very well be. But I do know I had stopped posting on this thread and any thread for a while...as I had nothing more to add...and not much more to say.

Then I had this dream...here I go with the dreams again. The last dream I had was about a blue flame..and a portal. I even did a thread on it. Then later we had that event with the Norway spiral

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=17816

But in this dream...I was directed to sit in this chair..and it had two stones on the arm of the chair. It was placed on what looked like one of those flat topped Mayan pyramids. I was told to slowly activate..and was guided by a faceless voice. I put my hands on the two stones ...and felt an electricity flowing through me then out of me. Not painful. And it made a low level, what I would describe as an electric noise.

As I activated slowly...a "rose" colored "vortex" with tiny gold specs started to come out of me...and spiraled down to earth...I asked what it was for, and the voice said "Gaia" to give her strength for the coming events. It was for her.

I was also shown the "flower of life" and told to read the emerald tablets. I was told that the flower of life was needed to fully activate the "rose colored vortex"...so I had better get working on that.

So this is why I started to post here again....I know what you're thinking....I have REALLY strange dreams....

You know...this sounds like an episode from Stargate SG-1. It was when Jack O' Niel discovered the Ancient's weapon buried under the ice in Antarctica when Anubis' fleet was attacking Earth. Jack had to sit down in the chair and activate the device. There was a vortex of light that energy emanated out of to strike down Anubis' fleet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ok-ANnAGWc

The scene I'm talking about starts around the 4:35 mark.

Winter Wolf

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 07:50 AM

Strange...but not even close to what my dream was....the chair was different...very old and very different..and the vortex...not used for the same purpose...not for destruction...and it came from myself and the chair directly. But thanks for the show...I've only seen this show a couple of times so far...just a few episodes....starting from the beginning of the first...as I was told I should watch it. And of course ODM..had a couple on this thread to watch. Very entertaining.

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 07:58 AM

The Key of wisdom

The Emerald Tablet

I, Thoth, the Atlantean,
give of my wisdom,
give of my knowledge,
give of my power.
Freely I give to the children of men.
Give that they, too, might have wisdom
to shine through the world from the veil of the night.

Wisdom is power and power is wisdom,
one with each other, perfecting the whole.

Be thou not proud, O man, in thy wisdom.
Discourse with the ignorant as well as the wise.
If one comes to thee full of knowledge,
listen and heed, for wisdom is all.

WinterWolf · 01-11-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

Strange...but not even close to what my dream was....the chair was different...very old and very different..and the vortex...not used for the same purpose...not for destruction...and it came from myself and the chair directly. But thanks for the show...I've only seen this show a couple of times so far...just a few episodes....starting from the beginning of the first...as I was told I should watch it. And of course ODM..had a couple on this thread to watch. Very entertaining.

There are other instances where Daniel, Jack, etc have used an Ancient chair for other purposes and has had a glowy effect coming from both too I think.

It's been awhile since I've watched Stargate.

Your dream just made me think of that episode.

Winter Wolf

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WinterWolf

There are other instances where Daniel, Jack, etc have used an Ancient chair for other purposes and has had a glowy effect coming from both too I think.

It's been awhile since I've watched Stargate.

Your dream just made me think of that episode.

Winter Wolf

I wonder what effect it had on their hands afterward...shocking

WinterWolf · 01-11-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

I wonder what effect it had on their hands afterward...shocking

Can't say I could tell you what they may have felt or didn't feel. I'm sure if you could talk to them they'd be happy to tell you.

Winter Wolf

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 08:32 AM

Speaking of chairs and thrones..did you know Isis was considered Goddess Of The Throne?

ISIS or her more ancient Egyptian name ASET, seems like two different deities if you take a closer look. When the worship of ISIS rose in Greek and Roman days, ASET had already been forgotten for hundreds of years. At this time only a small group of priests still knew how to read the ancient hieroglyphs of the temple walls. The Greek and Roman way of superimposing their cultural values on Egyptian culture affected the interpretation of the original ASET, depriving her of her Egyptian origin and turning her into Roman deity.

(The Egyptian words Ast or Aset, mean 'Throne or Seat'. Isis is an onomatopoeic Asianic word, Ish-ish, meaning 'she who weeps'.)

Isis, was for almost 3,500 years, the principle Goddess of Egypt. She was the wife and sister of Osiris and the mother of Horus, and the personification of the faithful wife and devoted mother. Isis is the Mistress Of The Words of Power and the Goddess Of Nature. She is the embodiment of nature and magic. The lap of the Goddess Isis was regarded as the royal throne, while her breast poured forth the nectar that conferred the divine right to rule.

Isis, is often depicted crowned with a throne or later with a disc and two horns.

hieroglyph for Isis

WinterWolf · 01-11-2010, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

Speaking of chairs and thrones..did you know Isis was considered Goddess Of The Throne?

ISIS or her more ancient Egyptian name ASET, seems like two different deities if you take a closer look. When the worship of ISIS rose in Greek and Roman days, ASET had already been forgotten for hundreds of years. At this time only a small group of priests still knew how to read the ancient hieroglyphs of the temple walls. The Greek and Roman way of superimposing their cultural values on Egyptian culture affected the interpretation of the original ASET, depriving her of her Egyptian origin and turning her into Roman deity.

(The Egyptian words Ast or Aset, mean 'Throne or Seat'. Isis is an onomatopoeic Asianic word, Ish-ish, meaning 'she who weeps'.)

Isis, was for almost 3,500 years, the principle Goddess of Egypt. She was the wife and sister of Osiris and the mother of Horus, and the personification of the faithful wife and devoted mother. Isis is the Mistress Of The Words of Power and the Goddess Of Nature. She is the embodiment of nature and magic. The lap of the Goddess Isis was regarded as the royal throne, while her breast poured forth the nectar that conferred the divine right to rule.

Isis, is often depicted crowned with a throne or later with a disc and two horns.

hieroglyph for Isis

Yes I remember reading something along the lines of that.

It's kind of like Ra being merged with a bunch of other gods and then becoming known as Amen-Ra or Amon-Ra, etc.

Winter Wolf

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WinterWolf

Yes I remember reading something along the lines of that.

It's kind of like Ra being merged with a bunch of other gods and then becoming known as Amen-Ra or Amon-Ra, etc.

Winter Wolf

Yes...I think you get it.....these are gods and goddess' of the people that worship them.

In the Leydon hymns Amun Ptah and Re are regarded as a trinity who are distinct gods but with unity in plurality."The three gods are one yet the Egyptian elsewhere insists on the separate identity of each of the three".

Amun represented the essential and hidden
Ra represented revealed divinity.
Ptah was the craftsman..the creator of the world and everything in it.

Trinity? Now that does smack of religion....And Isis has been equated to the Virgin Mary...holding baby Jesus/Horus.

This is why I return often to Thoth..who was the "scribe" of much of this legend. But how much is Myth? How much is Truth wrapped in lore?

As micjer said earlier..."Dreams and the bible to me are both metaphoric"...... As are the messages from ones such as Thoth.

When I see things written on the flower of Life, and the merkaba. When I see great reference to "sacred geometry"...my ears perk up.

When I see the messages it the Great Pyramid...as to the construction...I know that much of this "myth" has truth in it. And it is up to us to decipher the truth..and find validation whenever possible. To turn "myth" into a decipherable understanding.

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 04:07 PM

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Amen-Ra!? Wait! Wait! Why are you talking about meeee!!?!?

Sorry sorry. I couldn't help it. I've been called Amen-Ra more than once. It is also a name I connect wth.

Ahem. Yes. Back t your regularly scheduled program. >.>

Winter Wolf

Oh yes WinterWolf...as you said earlier in this thread...you are the Sun God Ra....
then that means there must be two more of you hanging around here somewhere..right?

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 04:32 PM

So I am Very interested in the one they call Ptah

Ptah

The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stone cutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen.

It was believed that Ptah created the heavens and the earth.

Ptah created the giant metal plate that was believed to be the floor of heaven and the roof of the sky, he also created the struts that upheld it. He created the universe by speaking words through his Tongue (linked to the god Thoth) and by thoughts coming from his Heart.

There came into being as the heart and there came into being as the tongue ...The mighty Great One is Ptah, who transmitted life to all gods, as well as to their kas... Thus it happened that the heart and tongue gained control over every other member of the body, by teaching that he, Ptah... is in every body and in every mouth of all gods, all men,and every thing that lives, by thinking and commanding everything that he wishes.

Thus the ka-spirits were made... by this speech... Thus were made all work and all crafts, the action of the arms, the movement of the legs, and the activity of every member, in conformance with this command which the heart thought, which came forth through the tongue, and which gives value to everything.

Ptah was a creator god, the third highest god in Egypt. He was the god presiding over the Second Egyptian month. From a local god of craftsmen to the deity who crafted the universe and the other deities, Ptah was only overshadowed by the sun god Ra, and the hidden god Amen. He fashioned the universe through words of power and by thought, as well as creating different parts by hand. He helped the dead on their travels through the afterlife, allowing them to transform into his divine figure, or by building the boats on which they could travel. He was the one who allowed the dead to be like the living after death

Sounds like a pretty powerful guy to me...in all of this legend and metaphor.

BROOK · 01-11-2010, 04:48 PM

Now here is a big question I have ...and I'm sure ODM..you would ask the same.....

If Ptah is the "creator" craftsman "God"...did he create this?...the words straight from Thoth?

In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamor was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place..

This is a BIG question in my mind....take note of the scales on his image here

Note he was also depicted with a "staff" in most images
Also, when not in this form..depicted as being wrapped in Mummy cloth

Could this be your Draconian "Creator" God ODM?

micjer · 01-12-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

So I am Very interested in the one they call Ptah

Ptah

The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stone cutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen.

It was believed that Ptah created the heavens and the earth.

Ptah created the giant metal plate that was believed to be the floor of heaven and the roof of the sky, he also created the struts that upheld it. He created the universe by speaking words through his Tongue (linked to the god Thoth) and by thoughts coming from his Heart.

There came into being as the heart and there came into being as the tongue ...The mighty Great One is Ptah, who transmitted life to all gods, as well as to their kas... Thus it happened that the heart and tongue gained control over every other member of the body, by teaching that he, Ptah... is in every body and in every mouth of all gods, all men,and every thing that lives, by thinking and commanding everything that he wishes.

Thus the ka-spirits were made... by this speech... Thus were made all work and all crafts, the action of the arms, the movement of the legs, and the activity of every member, in conformance with this command which the heart thought, which came forth through the tongue, and which gives value to everything.

Ptah was a creator god, the third highest god in Egypt. He was the god presiding over the Second Egyptian month. From a local god of craftsmen to the deity who crafted the universe and the other deities, Ptah was only overshadowed by the sun god Ra, and the hidden god Amen. He fashioned the universe through words of power and by thought, as well as creating different parts by hand. He helped the dead on their travels through the afterlife, allowing them to transform into his divine figure, or by building the boats on which they could travel. He was the one who allowed the dead to be like the living after death

Sounds like a pretty powerful guy to me...in all of this legend and metaphor.

Very interesting.

Ok what do the masons really know?

Look at this 1st degree tracing board.

It shows the pleiades pointing to the star of Ra. Then down from this is Jacobs' ladder. It also shows the pillars (struts) that Ptah made. Now if we can just connect all of these dots.

BROOK · 01-12-2010, 07:14 AM

looks to me like they worship Ptah....in all his glory

micjer · 01-12-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

looks to me like they worship Ptah....in all his glory

Sometimes I should do more research, before I post sorry, I am just learning.

Quote:

The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stonecutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen. His high priest was given the title wr khrp hmw, 'Great Leader of Craftsmen', and his priests were probably linked to the different crafts.

It was believed that Ptah invented masonry.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/ptah.htm

Amen

Ever wondered why people say amen at the end of a prayer. I don't anymore.

WinterWolf · 01-12-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by micjer

Amen !

Ever wondered why people say amen at the end of a prayer. I don't anymore.

Etymology of the word Amen

Winter Wolf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen

[edit]Etymology

Amen, meaning so be it, is of Hebrew origin.[5][6] The word was imported into the Greek of the early Church from the Jewish synagogue.[1][7] From Greek, amen entered the other Western languages. According to a standard dictionary etymology, amen passed from Greek into Late Latin, and thence into English.[8]
The Hebrew word amen derives from the Hebrew verb ’aman’, a primitive root.[9] Grammarians frequently list ’aman under its three consonants (’mn), which are identical to those of ’amen.[8] This triliteral root (’mn) means to be firm, confirmed, reliable, faithful, have faith, believe. Two English words that derive from this root are:

BROOK · 01-13-2010, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micjer

Sometimes I should do more research, before I post sorry, I am just learning.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/ptah.htm

Amen

Ever wondered why people say amen at the end of a prayer. I don't anymore.

Good find on the Mason thing...I did not know that..and it fits rather well to an Idea I have concluded so far.

I believe Ptah was severely corrupted..and using his powers for the dark side.

orthodoxymoron · 01-13-2010, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micjer

Very interesting.

Ok what do the masons really know?

Look at this 1st degree tracing board.

It shows the pleiades pointing to the star of Ra. Then down from this is Jacobs' ladder. It also shows the pillars (struts) that Ptah made. Now if we can just connect all of these dots.

The Stairway to Heaven. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA What did Led Zeppelin know...and when did they know it? Pay close attention to the words. Siriusly. Who exactly is the "Lady We All Know"? One (or all) of the ladies we have been discussing on this thread? Is a Lady We All Know...Behind Most of What We Know? Very Siriusly. Hail Mary...Mother of the Gods and Goddesses...and the Mediatrix between Humanity and the Interdimensional Reptilians Loyal to Ra (Amen)? I ask these questions with the utmost respect toward all of those (Human and Otherwise) who have attempted to do the right thing throughout Universal History. I'm trying to deal with these topics in a non-triumphalistic manner. I just want to determine the truth...in a very low-key and informal manner...and then move on to bigger and better things. Can anyone say 'Amen'? Oh never mind!

Namaste

BROOK · 01-13-2010, 07:06 AM

Love that song...it has my name in it

To my thinking, here are the important lyrics in the song....

And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will
Echo with laughter

Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change
The road you're on

WinterWolf · 01-12-2010, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

Oh yes WinterWolf...as you said earlier in this thread...you are the Sun God Ra....
then that means there must be two more of you hanging around here somewhere..right?

Me, myself and I.

Winter Wolf

03-11-2010, 11:31 PM	#1
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Amen Ra Present day Oxy is a little closer to home i feel. Look to the land of King arthur and our founding forum! Me i'm a simple girl with a brain to match lol!

02-08-2010, 10:12 PM	#2
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Amen Ra Consider God/Satan, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer. I'm almost afraid to really dig into this...and I've been putting it off. There's the 'book answers'...and then there are the 'real answers'. It's the potential 'real answers' that are frightening me. As I've stated elsewhere...my New Theology is Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction...and very non-traditional. Most of religion and history is BS...but there is still the underlying truth...which should not be ignored. Hathor may be the key to Enki as Goddess. I'm not sure why...but it sounded cool! Here is a very interesting music video...which I keep referring back to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU Also...here is a Stargate SG-1 episode titled 'Hathor'. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor Listen very carefully to what gets said in this episode. But heck...why not get the 'truth' straight from the horse's mouth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEgoXieg0E Here is a rather dull link which contains a few tidbits of interesting information. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoPg3...eature=related Could this pretty preacher (I'm in love! ) approximate a modern manifestation of Hathor? http://pastormelissascott.com/ Do a little research on this last one. You'll be amazed... Namaste

02-09-2010, 01:05 AM	#4
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Amen Ra Thank-you lisa. I started to read this site some time ago and got sidetracked. I am now reading the whole thing. I don't know how much of it is true. I don't know how much of anything is really true! I'm thinking that there may be a real link between the Archangels and the Ancient Gods and Goddesses. Is Hathor the All Seeing Eye aka Eye of Ra? Was Ra killed? Did Hathor kill Ra? Is the Dog Star Sirius the Illumination behind the All Seeing Eye? Was the Sun God Ra from Sirius? Sirius is Central...right? Is Horus representative of Michael aka Jesus? Chapter 5 of the linked site is also fascinating! http://servicetoone.wordpress.com/ca...pter-v-part-2/ Namaste

01-10-2010, 05:50 PM	#5
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: Amen Ra your dreams are most interesting, thanks for sharing best wishes

01-11-2010, 07:50 AM	#7
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra Strange...but not even close to what my dream was....the chair was different...very old and very different..and the vortex...not used for the same purpose...not for destruction...and it came from myself and the chair directly. But thanks for the show...I've only seen this show a couple of times so far...just a few episodes....starting from the beginning of the first...as I was told I should watch it. And of course ODM..had a couple on this thread to watch. Very entertaining.

01-11-2010, 07:58 AM	#8
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra The Key of wisdom The Emerald Tablet I, Thoth, the Atlantean, give of my wisdom, give of my knowledge, give of my power. Freely I give to the children of men. Give that they, too, might have wisdom to shine through the world from the veil of the night. Wisdom is power and power is wisdom, one with each other, perfecting the whole. Be thou not proud, O man, in thy wisdom. Discourse with the ignorant as well as the wise. If one comes to thee full of knowledge, listen and heed, for wisdom is all.

01-11-2010, 08:32 AM	#12
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra Speaking of chairs and thrones..did you know Isis was considered Goddess Of The Throne? ISIS or her more ancient Egyptian name ASET, seems like two different deities if you take a closer look. When the worship of ISIS rose in Greek and Roman days, ASET had already been forgotten for hundreds of years. At this time only a small group of priests still knew how to read the ancient hieroglyphs of the temple walls. The Greek and Roman way of superimposing their cultural values on Egyptian culture affected the interpretation of the original ASET, depriving her of her Egyptian origin and turning her into Roman deity. (The Egyptian words Ast or Aset, mean 'Throne or Seat'. Isis is an onomatopoeic Asianic word, Ish-ish, meaning 'she who weeps'.) Isis, was for almost 3,500 years, the principle Goddess of Egypt. She was the wife and sister of Osiris and the mother of Horus, and the personification of the faithful wife and devoted mother. Isis is the Mistress Of The Words of Power and the Goddess Of Nature. She is the embodiment of nature and magic. The lap of the Goddess Isis was regarded as the royal throne, while her breast poured forth the nectar that conferred the divine right to rule. Isis, is often depicted crowned with a throne or later with a disc and two horns. hieroglyph for Isis

01-11-2010, 04:32 PM	#16
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra So I am Very interested in the one they call Ptah Ptah The origin of Ptah's name is unclear, though some believe it to mean 'opener' or 'sculptor'. As a god of craftsmen, the later is probably correct. He was a patron of the arts, protector of stone cutters, sculptors, blacksmiths, architects, boat builders, artists and craftsmen. It was believed that Ptah created the heavens and the earth. Ptah created the giant metal plate that was believed to be the floor of heaven and the roof of the sky, he also created the struts that upheld it. He created the universe by speaking words through his Tongue (linked to the god Thoth) and by thoughts coming from his Heart. There came into being as the heart and there came into being as the tongue ...The mighty Great One is Ptah, who transmitted life to all gods, as well as to their kas... Thus it happened that the heart and tongue gained control over every other member of the body, by teaching that he, Ptah... is in every body and in every mouth of all gods, all men,and every thing that lives, by thinking and commanding everything that he wishes. Thus the ka-spirits were made... by this speech... Thus were made all work and all crafts, the action of the arms, the movement of the legs, and the activity of every member, in conformance with this command which the heart thought, which came forth through the tongue, and which gives value to everything. Ptah was a creator god, the third highest god in Egypt. He was the god presiding over the Second Egyptian month. From a local god of craftsmen to the deity who crafted the universe and the other deities, Ptah was only overshadowed by the sun god Ra, and the hidden god Amen. He fashioned the universe through words of power and by thought, as well as creating different parts by hand. He helped the dead on their travels through the afterlife, allowing them to transform into his divine figure, or by building the boats on which they could travel. He was the one who allowed the dead to be like the living after death Sounds like a pretty powerful guy to me...in all of this legend and metaphor. Last edited by BROOK; 01-11-2010 at 04:40 PM.

01-11-2010, 04:48 PM	#17
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra Now here is a big question I have ...and I'm sure ODM..you would ask the same..... If Ptah is the "creator" craftsman "God"...did he create this?...the words straight from Thoth? In the form of man they amongst us, but only to sight were they as are men. Serpent-headed when the glamor was lifted but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the Councils, taking forms that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o'er man. Only by magic could they be discovered. Only by sound could their faces be seen. Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows to destroy man and rule in his place.. This is a BIG question in my mind....take note of the scales on his image here Note he was also depicted with a "staff" in most images Also, when not in this form..depicted as being wrapped in Mummy cloth Could this be your Draconian "Creator" God ODM? Last edited by BROOK; 01-11-2010 at 05:08 PM.

01-12-2010, 07:14 AM	#19
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra looks to me like they worship Ptah....in all his glory

01-13-2010, 07:06 AM	#24
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Amen Ra Love that song...it has my name in it To my thinking, here are the important lyrics in the song.... And a new day will dawn For those who stand long And the forests will Echo with laughter Yes, there are two paths you can go by But in the long run There's still time to change The road you're on