SaLuSa 19-October-2009

TRANCOSO · 10-20-2009, 05:28 AM

Just before I read this 'message' from SaLuSa I leafed through The Phoenix Journal thread (all 4 pages). While reading bits & pieces I noticed that a lot of the channeled 'peace, love & understanding' messages of these 'Galactic Federation Space Beings' (Ashtar, SaLuSa) have quite a nasty & agressive 'undertone'. Not to mention our friend God/Aton (notA/God...), who expects us to become holier than the pope, has a 'zero tolerance' attitude & wants to be worshipped. They all claim to have monitored us for God knows how long, but did nothing to prevent the splitting of the atom & the build up of nuclear weapons, because of a 'non intervention policy'.
When I would see that my neighbours kids are trying to set the house on fire while experimenting with matches, I wouldn't wait untill everything has burned down, because they are not my kids & I shouldn't interfere with their parrents authority.
It appears to me that we are a genetic experiment of a bunch of sadistic doctors who know they have the power to pull out the plug whenever they please.
I mean, what have I done to deserve this?

Carmen · 10-20-2009, 07:45 AM

Thanks Gareth, Another excellent message.

Cheers

Carmen

orthodoxymoron · 10-20-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

Just before I read this 'message' from SaLuSa I leafed through The Phoenix Journal thread (all 4 pages). While reading bits & pieces I noticed that a lot of the channeled 'peace, love & understanding' messages of these 'Galactic Federation Space Beings' (Ashtar, SaLuSa) have quite a nasty & agressive 'undertone'. Not to mention our friend God/Aton (notA/God...), who expects us to become holier than the pope, has a 'zero tolerance' attitude & wants to be worshipped. They all claim to have monitored us for God knows how long, but did nothing to prevent the splitting of the atom & the build up of nuclear weapons, because of a 'non intervention policy'.
When I would see that my neighbours kids are trying to set the house on fire while experimenting with matches, I wouldn't wait untill everything has burned down, because they are not my kids & I shouldn't interfere with their parrents authority.
It appears to me that we are a genetic experiment of a bunch of sadistic doctors who know they have the power to pull out the plug whenever they please.
I mean, what have I done to deserve this?

Once again...I completely agree. Keep thinking like this...no matter what happens. I have a feeling this thing is going to get really ugly.

charioteer · 10-21-2009, 12:04 AM

Hi guys, here is an older, real channeled message from the Galactic Council: http://www.lightworkers.org/channeli...mmander-ashtar. The real ones are more straight forward and a bit less wordy.

I know what you mean about the Phoenix Newsletters, but these are written by agents high in the illuminati as deceptions. There is still valuable information in them, and they can be studied, but just be aware you are reading something written by humans on earth, not channeled.

The reason the real Council has to leave us on our own though is because we have to evolve for ourselves, to reach the next stage on our own. So they cannot intervene directly.

14 Chakras · 10-23-2009, 12:13 AM

Viking,

Yah, I think we can all see that the world is not perfect right now and needs to change and it needs some help!

This is what our presidents keep promising us "change" and to get things right that the last guy got wrong, but they keep digging the same hole a lot deeper.

So at some point do we realize, hey wait a minute, what about me? Do I have the power to go forth and be a leader and Be the change I want to see? Or should I just latch on to the next guy that promises to come in and do all the work for me?

What's the difference between Barack Obama promising 'change' then bringing more of the same, and some ET's promising to show up in millions of space craft and fix all of our problems?

What I think we're here to learn is that what's going on outside of us in our world, is a reflection of what's going on inside of us.

When we fix what's going on inside, by becoming more conscious and connecting to our source, then what's going on outside will naturally reflect that and fix itself.

When we become fully conscious inside, we'll finally be capable of doing what we were commanded to do from day one, take dominion over our own planet, and fix our own problems. Otherwise, we're just a slave race jumping to another master.

The future is friendly. There is massive amounts of help. Connect right now to your own higher Self, to the divine within you and you will feel some of that help inside of you now. This power inside of you will continue to grow.

Don't limit what the infinite can do through you to fix the problems on YOUR planet.

That's what I think

no caste · 10-23-2009, 02:17 AM

Dear SaLuSa -

I am kind of lazy and would rather explain things this way (it's easier). Also, I do not have your address. I hope the Nephilim, er, I mean, angels bring you this message.

Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) lyrics - Anime -

YouTube - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) lyrics - Anime -
Ritual Medical lore of Sephardic Women: p. 104

Rosemary is one of Earth's oldest incenses. Rosemary has been burned for centuries in sick chambers to purify the air, specifically in French hospitals during war (through WWII) to kill germs.
http://www.adlunamlabs.com/History_of_Rosemary.html

viking · 10-23-2009, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Viking,

Yah, I think we can all see that the world is not perfect right now and needs to change and it needs some help!

This is what our presidents keep promising us "change" and to get things right that the last guy got wrong, but they keep digging the same hole a lot deeper.

So at some point do we realize, hey wait a minute, what about me? Do I have the power to go forth and be a leader and Be the change I want to see? Or should I just latch on to the next guy that promises to come in and do all the work for me?

What's the difference between Barack Obama promising 'change' then bringing more of the same, and some ET's promising to show up in millions of space craft and fix all of our problems?

What I think we're here to learn is that what's going on outside of us in our world, is a reflection of what's going on inside of us.

When we fix what's going on inside, by becoming more conscious and connecting to our source, then what's going on outside will naturally reflect that and fix itself.

When we become fully conscious inside, we'll finally be capable of doing what we were commanded to do from day one, take dominion over our own planet, and fix our own problems. Otherwise, we're just a slave race jumping to another master.

The future is friendly. There is massive amounts of help. Connect right now to your own higher Self, to the divine within you and you will feel some of that help inside of you now. This power inside of you will continue to grow.

Don't limit what the infinite can do through you to fix the problems on YOUR planet.

That's what I think

Hi 14 thanks for your feedback...

It's simple if Obama doesn't Disclose then they will.

Trust me 14 I am totally connected to my higher self.

I know what we can achieve collectively 14. But we need to wake up a few more for the neccesary tilt. Ultimately we all need to know the TRUTH and not beLIEve anymore.

Disclosure will transform our lives. It will open a HUGE can of worms and will be the start of the New Way.

I quote from something I read earlier...
The truth has to be brought out no matter how difficult you may find it to accept. It is not our way to be other than truthful, but we shall handle it sympathetically and with respect for your individual freewill. We can but lay the truth in front of your eyes, but we will back it up with irrefutable evidence where it involves your history. You are to enter the final straight leading to Ascension fully informed and spiritually ready to take the final upliftment. Gradually let your attachment to the past move into the background, and let the love and Light occupy your minds as you rise up in your vibrations. The attraction for you will be the promise of a fulfilling and happy future, where peace abides and you are no longer subject to the attention of the dark forces. They cannot follow you into the higher vibrations; indeed they are being left behind now as you cut your ties with them. Deny them your attention; yet send out your Light wherever you are aware of their dark energies. All of the time you stand fast within your Light, you are protected.

viking

Peace of mind · 10-23-2009, 08:41 PM

Maybe we need to fight fire with fire; use their powers against them...sought of like Tai Chi. As I see it, the media plays a big part in manipulating the mind. There should be more movies, music and video games promoting enlightenment. People have been conditioned to this way of living since birth and it’s too difficult to wake up the masses behind a PC monitor. Leading by example is the true key, but many don’t have the attributes or true courage to lead because they fear ridicule due to their own lack of evidence and / or faith...so, they will never be taken serious.

Deep down people do want change, but they are used to being followers and also lack knowledge of self. Unless the awaken can provide clarity and display honest efforts to the sleeping mass… change will come slowly and perhaps too little too late. As of right now….people really do not care. And, it doesn’t help when many are confuse and don’t know what to believe in anymore. This shift might have to take a few sacrificial lambs to be successful. If that’s the case….who is ready to put their life on the line for the cause? Hmm.
With that said, we humans are resilient in the face of death, but when it comes to ascending...it’s the uncertainties keeping us in slow motion. First we must learn to walk in our brothers and sisters shoes before we can establish the correct methods for moving ahead…everyone has to be on the same page

Peace

10-20-2009, 05:28 AM	#1
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: SaLuSa 19-October-2009 Just before I read this 'message' from SaLuSa I leafed through The Phoenix Journal thread (all 4 pages). While reading bits & pieces I noticed that a lot of the channeled 'peace, love & understanding' messages of these 'Galactic Federation Space Beings' (Ashtar, SaLuSa) have quite a nasty & agressive 'undertone'. Not to mention our friend God/Aton (notA/God...), who expects us to become holier than the pope, has a 'zero tolerance' attitude & wants to be worshipped. They all claim to have monitored us for God knows how long, but did nothing to prevent the splitting of the atom & the build up of nuclear weapons, because of a 'non intervention policy'. When I would see that my neighbours kids are trying to set the house on fire while experimenting with matches, I wouldn't wait untill everything has burned down, because they are not my kids & I shouldn't interfere with their parrents authority. It appears to me that we are a genetic experiment of a bunch of sadistic doctors who know they have the power to pull out the plug whenever they please. I mean, what have I done to deserve this?

10-20-2009, 07:45 AM	#2
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: SaLuSa 19-October-2009 Thanks Gareth, Another excellent message. Cheers Carmen

10-21-2009, 12:04 AM	#4
charioteer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 50	Re: SaLuSa 19-October-2009 Hi guys, here is an older, real channeled message from the Galactic Council: http://www.lightworkers.org/channeli...mmander-ashtar. The real ones are more straight forward and a bit less wordy. I know what you mean about the Phoenix Newsletters, but these are written by agents high in the illuminati as deceptions. There is still valuable information in them, and they can be studied, but just be aware you are reading something written by humans on earth, not channeled. The reason the real Council has to leave us on our own though is because we have to evolve for ourselves, to reach the next stage on our own. So they cannot intervene directly.

10-23-2009, 12:13 AM	#5
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: SaLuSa 19-October-2009 Viking, Yah, I think we can all see that the world is not perfect right now and needs to change and it needs some help! This is what our presidents keep promising us "change" and to get things right that the last guy got wrong, but they keep digging the same hole a lot deeper. So at some point do we realize, hey wait a minute, what about me? Do I have the power to go forth and be a leader and Be the change I want to see? Or should I just latch on to the next guy that promises to come in and do all the work for me? What's the difference between Barack Obama promising 'change' then bringing more of the same, and some ET's promising to show up in millions of space craft and fix all of our problems? What I think we're here to learn is that what's going on outside of us in our world, is a reflection of what's going on inside of us. When we fix what's going on inside, by becoming more conscious and connecting to our source, then what's going on outside will naturally reflect that and fix itself. When we become fully conscious inside, we'll finally be capable of doing what we were commanded to do from day one, take dominion over our own planet, and fix our own problems. Otherwise, we're just a slave race jumping to another master. The future is friendly. There is massive amounts of help. Connect right now to your own higher Self, to the divine within you and you will feel some of that help inside of you now. This power inside of you will continue to grow. Don't limit what the infinite can do through you to fix the problems on YOUR planet. That's what I think

10-23-2009, 02:17 AM	#6
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: SaLuSa 19-October-2009 Dear SaLuSa - I am kind of lazy and would rather explain things this way (it's easier). Also, I do not have your address. I hope the Nephilim, er, I mean, angels bring you this message. Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) lyrics - Anime - YouTube - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) lyrics - Anime - Ritual Medical lore of Sephardic Women: p. 104 Rosemary is one of Earth's oldest incenses. Rosemary has been burned for centuries in sick chambers to purify the air, specifically in French hospitals during war (through WWII) to kill germs. http://www.adlunamlabs.com/History_of_Rosemary.html

10-23-2009, 08:41 PM	#8
Peace of mind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The uncharted consciousness Posts: 311	Re: SaLuSa 19-October-2009 Maybe we need to fight fire with fire; use their powers against them...sought of like Tai Chi. As I see it, the media plays a big part in manipulating the mind. There should be more movies, music and video games promoting enlightenment. People have been conditioned to this way of living since birth and it’s too difficult to wake up the masses behind a PC monitor. Leading by example is the true key, but many don’t have the attributes or true courage to lead because they fear ridicule due to their own lack of evidence and / or faith...so, they will never be taken serious. Deep down people do want change, but they are used to being followers and also lack knowledge of self. Unless the awaken can provide clarity and display honest efforts to the sleeping mass… change will come slowly and perhaps too little too late. As of right now….people really do not care. And, it doesn’t help when many are confuse and don’t know what to believe in anymore. This shift might have to take a few sacrificial lambs to be successful. If that’s the case….who is ready to put their life on the line for the cause? Hmm. With that said, we humans are resilient in the face of death, but when it comes to ascending...it’s the uncertainties keeping us in slow motion. First we must learn to walk in our brothers and sisters shoes before we can establish the correct methods for moving ahead…everyone has to be on the same page Peace