Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere

Seashore · 06-10-2009, 12:59 PM

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Well, I can see your rationale, but I believe you are operating from the premise that the US government still has the best interests of the American people as their focus...

I can relate to this statement.

I think we all need to stop thinking in terms of nationalities... the US vs.China, etc., and start thinking in terms of the controllers vs. the controlled--worldwide.

Unified Serenity · 06-10-2009, 02:09 PM

Wow, I'm impressed with all the responses. I have avoided this thread just because I didn't want to get into "worst case" thinking. I've been involved in this topic since the early 1990's. I used to do talk radio locally and had many whistle blower types on my program. It got so bad that I was followed and apparently my phone was tapped at one point. I got off the grid in late 1990's and have pretty much stayed that way.

While I think having a small community working together is optimal, having meeting places for those in the know is a big mistake. Just raise a huge flag and say, "We're over here, come n get us"! No, I would not want to meet up with hundreds of awakened people in the middle of a Federal UN controlled round up chipping / extermination / relocation/ re-education program. I will never willingly go on a bus/train anywhere with a herd of sheeple!

I have limited resources at this point, but have been laying up supplies for a while as I can. I buy extra rice, beans, spam (ick) canned meat, veggies etc as I go, and seal it up in containers for use later if needed. The only thing I need to buy is a really good water purification system and alternative energy stuff if need be. For those looking, I recommend learning how to use a solar oven, and how to collect water safely like they teach in the military survival schools. Those books are available at any army/navy store or gun shows.

Speaking of guns, never buy one from a dealer, never fill out an info card. Buy only via private individuals, and keep your powder dry! I will fight if my family is personally attacked. I will not go marching and demonstrating. The agent provocateurs will turn it into a mess, and the crack down will begin, and if you are on one of those lists, look out.

Get plenty of heirloom seeds, store them well and learn how to harvest the seeds to keep things going. After everything calms down, I do think community living will be key. Know your neighbors. Break tasks down in groups, and don't let anyone become "head honcho". If you don't have money / items to trade then knowledge and elbow grease will be just as important. Be able to offer something and you will be ok. I learned blacksmithing a long time ago. Knowing how to weave, sew, can, store, and grow stuff will be great assets. Knowing how to plane a board without power tools, how to fell trees without getting killed, and build basic shelters will be important. Knowing natural cures will be important. The ptw plan on wiping out 6 billion or more of us, so learn how to stay healthy, have lots of vitamins and mineral stored up, iodine, and how to not be a victim.

I think that last part is key. For me, not knowing and being ignorant is the scariest thing. If I know a tsunami is coming I can make plans, if I see storm clouds but haven't a clue what to do then there is the fear. I want to thank each of you for your comments. Staying positive is so important. I feel more calm talking with you all, you actually seem like lucid non-deranged wacko's compared to the people or sheeple I should say who trust the government. Oh, and I do plan to get the hell out of N. Florida which will become a bottleneck for the millions fleeing south Florida if worst cast scenario massive flooding takes over the state. I won't be here where most of those people will come desperately trying to survive and willing to do the unthinkable to survive.

Many blessings and much love to you all.

Seashore · 06-10-2009, 02:45 PM

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...It got so bad that I was followed and apparently my phone was tapped at one point...

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...I got off the grid in late 1990's and have pretty much stayed that way...

I used to think "off the grid" meant the electrical grid...

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...While I think having a small community working together is optimal, having meeting places for those in the know is a big mistake...

Sounds like the voice of experience...

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... Just raise a huge flag and say, "We're over here, come n get us"! No, I would not want to meet up with hundreds of awakened people in the middle of a Federal UN controlled round up chipping / extermination / relocation/ re-education program. I will never willingly go on a bus/train anywhere with a herd of sheeple!...

Good point...

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...The only thing I need to buy is a really good water purification system...

I bought Berkey purifiers for myself and for my two grown sons (cause they're not doing this for themselves)...

Thank you for a fantastic post.

pyrangello · 06-10-2009, 04:23 PM

I would also like to add there is alot of level headed calm and thought provoking individuals on this site , I have learned so much from the comments made here, opinions, and life experiences that everyone has shared. From health matters to understanding the reasons as to the question , Why?

I do know that if there ever is a time of crisis and the internet is still available this site will be the pathfinder to knowledge far beyond the media as it always has as well as the team avalon family members who de-bunk what needs to be de-bunked.

It's funny when I see something on the news, I always look forward to checking out this site to see what all of your opinions are .

One thing I know for sure because of this site and all of you, if things ever did get out of control , I will remember all that I have learned about staying positive even in the worst situations, focusing on the light, not getting sucked into the vortex if you will and do what I can for others. Thats what it's all about!

Lorien · 06-10-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrangello

I would also like to add there is alot of level headed calm and thought provoking individuals on this site , I have learned so much from the comments made here, opinions, and life experiences that everyone has shared. From health matters to understanding the reasons as to the question , Why?

I do know that if there ever is a time of crisis and the internet is still available this site will be the pathfinder to knowledge far beyond the media as it always has as well as the team avalon family members who de-bunk what needs to be de-bunked.

It's funny when I see something on the news, I always look forward to checking out this site to see what all of your opinions are .

One thing I know for sure because of this site and all of you, if things ever did get out of control , I will remember all that I have learned about staying positive even in the worst situations, focusing on the light, not getting sucked into the vortex if you will and do what I can for others. Thats what it's all about!

Well said! And I agree 100%

Seashore · 06-10-2009, 06:23 PM

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...After everything calms down, I do think community living will be key. Know your neighbors...

I have a suggestion for people who live in a neighborhood where you have an association and a board of directors. Start (if you don't already) going to your board of directors meetings.

waitinginthewings · 06-10-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore

I have a suggestion for people who live in a neighborhood where you have an association and a board of directors. Start (if you don't already) going to your board of directors meetings.

Yes, I am going to the next strata meeting & plan on discussing the possibility of digging up a portion of our green lawns to convert to veggie garden plots. I can just see them roll their eyes now.....they are a conservative bunch who complain about a few dandeloins, & like they green lawns. I've also been thing about asking them to consider installing solar panels on our roofs..........me thinks they will be reaching for their martinis or some stiff drinks to cope with my brilliant ideas............ah its fun to stir the pot & watch their faces.

Seashore · 06-10-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Yes, I am going to the next strata meeting...

Keep us posted!

NorthernSanctuary · 06-10-2009, 11:40 PM

.After everything calms down, I do think community living will be key. Know your neighbors...

I think so too. There was a time when it was not good to stick up and be noticed, but those times are passing by pretty fast. The PTB are losing control and they know it. It's just a lot easier ti survive through the changes in a community of like minded people.

Unified Serenity · 06-11-2009, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NorthernSantuary

.After everything calms down, I do think community living will be key. Know your neighbors...

I think so too. There was a time when it was not good to stick up and be noticed, but those times are passing by pretty fast. The PTB are losing control and they know it. It's just a lot easier ti survive through the changes in a community of like minded people.

It's also a lot harder to shoot someone you know.

Swanny · 06-10-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Well, I can see your rationale, but I believe you are operating from the premise that the US government still has the best interests of the American people as their focus.

I don't make that assumption.

Nor me, we are just numbers to TPTB, they don't care about us at all

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Originally Posted by seashore

I think we all need to stop thinking in terms of nationalities... the US vs.China, etc., and start thinking in terms of the controllers vs. the controlled--worldwide.

Yea it's them and us

06-10-2009, 02:09 PM	#2
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Wow, I'm impressed with all the responses. I have avoided this thread just because I didn't want to get into "worst case" thinking. I've been involved in this topic since the early 1990's. I used to do talk radio locally and had many whistle blower types on my program. It got so bad that I was followed and apparently my phone was tapped at one point. I got off the grid in late 1990's and have pretty much stayed that way. While I think having a small community working together is optimal, having meeting places for those in the know is a big mistake. Just raise a huge flag and say, "We're over here, come n get us"! No, I would not want to meet up with hundreds of awakened people in the middle of a Federal UN controlled round up chipping / extermination / relocation/ re-education program. I will never willingly go on a bus/train anywhere with a herd of sheeple! I have limited resources at this point, but have been laying up supplies for a while as I can. I buy extra rice, beans, spam (ick) canned meat, veggies etc as I go, and seal it up in containers for use later if needed. The only thing I need to buy is a really good water purification system and alternative energy stuff if need be. For those looking, I recommend learning how to use a solar oven, and how to collect water safely like they teach in the military survival schools. Those books are available at any army/navy store or gun shows. Speaking of guns, never buy one from a dealer, never fill out an info card. Buy only via private individuals, and keep your powder dry! I will fight if my family is personally attacked. I will not go marching and demonstrating. The agent provocateurs will turn it into a mess, and the crack down will begin, and if you are on one of those lists, look out. Get plenty of heirloom seeds, store them well and learn how to harvest the seeds to keep things going. After everything calms down, I do think community living will be key. Know your neighbors. Break tasks down in groups, and don't let anyone become "head honcho". If you don't have money / items to trade then knowledge and elbow grease will be just as important. Be able to offer something and you will be ok. I learned blacksmithing a long time ago. Knowing how to weave, sew, can, store, and grow stuff will be great assets. Knowing how to plane a board without power tools, how to fell trees without getting killed, and build basic shelters will be important. Knowing natural cures will be important. The ptw plan on wiping out 6 billion or more of us, so learn how to stay healthy, have lots of vitamins and mineral stored up, iodine, and how to not be a victim. I think that last part is key. For me, not knowing and being ignorant is the scariest thing. If I know a tsunami is coming I can make plans, if I see storm clouds but haven't a clue what to do then there is the fear. I want to thank each of you for your comments. Staying positive is so important. I feel more calm talking with you all, you actually seem like lucid non-deranged wacko's compared to the people or sheeple I should say who trust the government. Oh, and I do plan to get the hell out of N. Florida which will become a bottleneck for the millions fleeing south Florida if worst cast scenario massive flooding takes over the state. I won't be here where most of those people will come desperately trying to survive and willing to do the unthinkable to survive. Many blessings and much love to you all.

06-10-2009, 04:23 PM	#4
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere I would also like to add there is alot of level headed calm and thought provoking individuals on this site , I have learned so much from the comments made here, opinions, and life experiences that everyone has shared. From health matters to understanding the reasons as to the question , Why? I do know that if there ever is a time of crisis and the internet is still available this site will be the pathfinder to knowledge far beyond the media as it always has as well as the team avalon family members who de-bunk what needs to be de-bunked. It's funny when I see something on the news, I always look forward to checking out this site to see what all of your opinions are . One thing I know for sure because of this site and all of you, if things ever did get out of control , I will remember all that I have learned about staying positive even in the worst situations, focusing on the light, not getting sucked into the vortex if you will and do what I can for others. Thats what it's all about!

06-10-2009, 11:40 PM	#9
NorthernSanctuary Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 698	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere .After everything calms down, I do think community living will be key. Know your neighbors... I think so too. There was a time when it was not good to stick up and be noticed, but those times are passing by pretty fast. The PTB are losing control and they know it. It's just a lot easier ti survive through the changes in a community of like minded people.