Does Obama Use Neuro-Linguistic Programming Techniques in Speeches?

[tone3jaguar]

It is amazing the way people take different kinds of disinformation about everything, ball it up, mead it, and write it down like some how it is true. It is like a bunch of kids playing with different colors of Play Doe, they get tired of it so they just put all of the Play Doe into one ball and think it is the greatest thing ever.

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

It is amazing the way people take different kinds of disinformation about everything, ball it up, mead it, and write it down like some how it is true. It is like a bunch of kids playing with different colors of Play Doe, they get tired of it so they just put all of the Play Doe into one ball and think it is the greatest thing ever.

tone3jaguar...I think it would be more helpful if you spelled this out in specifics.

[tone3jaguar]

tone3jaguar...I think it would be more helpful if you spelled this out in specifics.

He is just a good guy who is naturally calm at speaking and has walked into a hornets nest. None of the people who judge him have ever had to take on any where close to the level of responsibility and expectations that he has now. Moreover if they ever did they would probably crumble because they would obsess about how they are being judged by the world. It is a mind virus of our western culture to focus on other people and amplify their flaws so that people can feel better about the things they don't like about themselves.

The guy says inspirational things, then people are inspired. It is not complicated, it is not a conspiracy to control your mind. Why did he write checks that he has not cashed in yet? For f--ks sake people! He was handed the biggest cluster f--k of all time and has handled it graciously, and kept his cool.

Another aspect of the smear Obama movement that is a amazing to me is how gullible the people swept up in it have become. In one breath they will say "The Media Lies to Us, errrrr" Then in the next breath they will judge someone based off of a conglomeration of what they have seen in the media? So the media is lieing, but we are basing our opinions on it?

People need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop pointing fingers at others and saying "So and so is responsible for my situation". They all need to wake the f--k up and realize that they are 100% responsible for everything that they attract into their reality weather it is pleasant or not.

[sun-toon´]

I never would have guessed that was what you were saying, so I'm glad I asked.
I'm in no way into smearing him, I just see that most everything he's done has been to fully support the NWO agenda. The bank bailout, his continuation of the phony war or terror, and what seems to be support for more undermining of constitutional liberties, in particular.
He may be a nice guy, he may have a good heart, but those attributes need to be employed or they're worth nothing. Maybe he's working some angle that hasn't become visible. That would be great and I'll concede the possibility.

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

People need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop pointing fingers at others and saying "So and so is responsible for my situation". They all need to wake the f--k up and realize that they are 100% responsible for everything that they attract into their reality weather it is pleasant or not.

IMO this is flatly not true. No one is 100% responsible for reality. It's a co-creative process, and everyone contributes their bit of vision and energy to it. I refuse to be held responsible for events which are totally beyond my control, nor would I pin that on you, Obama, or anyone else. It takes the entire universe to manifest the universe.

[tone3jaguar]

sun-toon, it was not directed at you or any one individual in this thread, it was a general statement

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

sun-toon, it was not directed at you or any one individual in this thread, it was a general statement

Sorry, if I came on too strong, I just can't wrap my mind around the "we create our own reality" paradigm. It makes no sense to me, but it's everywhere these days and seems to be accepted without question in these kinds of venues. In a sense there is something to it, as we are the ocean contained within the drop, at the same time as we're also a drop of the ocean.

But it always sounds like a blaming of the victim to me. When reality manifestation doesn't work right, which is usually, it's because we didn't work the process correctly...our fault. Sometimes maybe, but you can't blame a child for manifesting his own murder (as an extreme example). We can have an affect, but I can't see how it's not a balance of creative energies that generates reality.

Alright, this is off topic. To get back on, it's not O's fault what he inherited, but it becomes more his doing everyday where it goes from here.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by sun-toon´

Alright, this is off topic. To get back on, it's not O's fault what he inherited, but it becomes more his doing everyday where it goes from here.

I don't think he has much control over where it goes from here. (I think he is a puppet.)

Unless a miracle happens...

Maybe if we all send him thoughts of unconditional love, we could do some good...

[tone3jaguar]

I just can't wrap my mind around the "we create our own reality" paradigm.

Well as far as Obama, The Illuminati, The NWO, and the rest of them go they are archetypal manifestations of the consciousness of society. Our consciousnesses are responsible for which archetypal manifestations show up based off of what we need to learn and came here to learn. That is what I mean by we are responsible for the things we manifest into our reality.

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

Well as far as Obama, The Illuminati, The NWO, and the rest of them go they are archetypal manifestations of the consciousness of society. Our consciousnesses are responsible for which archetypal manifestations show up based off of what we need to learn and came here to learn. That is what I mean by we are responsible for the things we manifest into our reality.

...or, the consciousness of society is a manifestation of the intent of the Illuminati, NWO, PTB...astral overlords, matrix keepers, whatever we want to call them. We, the collective have manifested the dream we were/are implanted with. We hold their reality in place with our thoughts...and that is all that holds it in place. I don't buy into the cosmic schoolroom paradigm, but OTOH it will be good to collectively learn that it is ourselves, keeping ourselves prisoners, no matter who's suggesting it.

But...that we is not I. I do my best not to participate in that particular dream, but I can't push hard enough to change it by myself...which is why I'm here blathering on while I wait for the plan to emerge. :>)

[tone3jaguar]

or, the consciousness of society is a manifestation of the intent of the Illuminati, NWO, PTB...astral overlords, matrix keepers, whatever we want to call them.

Perhaps, but logic would tell me that it is the many that manifest the few not the few that manifest the many.

[Moxie]

"They all need to wake the f--k up and realize that they are 100% responsible for everything that they attract into their reality weather it is pleasant or not."

"IMO this is flatly not true. No one is 100% responsible for reality. It's a co-creative process, and everyone contributes their bit of vision and energy to it. I refuse to be held responsible for events which are totally beyond my control, nor would I pin that on you"

Quote:
"or, the consciousness of society is a manifestation of the intent of the Illuminati, NWO, PTB...astral overlords, matrix keepers, whatever we want to call them."

"Perhaps, but logic would tell me that it is the many that manifest the few not the few that manifest the many"

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This is about Obama‘s USE of hidden hypnosis techniques….
This does not mean that Obama is AWARE of the depth that the initial thread starter article speaks of., for we might ask, just how much of his speeches are written entirely by himself?

Most certainly, he has studied up a bit & become aware of intentional mannerisms while presenting himself as any person in public speaking would be inclined to look into….how to project your voice, timing, how to hold your body, exude confidence, that sort of thing.

Who ever it is that is writing his speeches, that is the person that needs examination for this is a specialty field all its own. A vast field, a science, wherein techniques ARE used and wherein propaganda does arise as its aim is to compel, persuade, convince... people in highly paid positions to consciously do so, even behind the scenes propaganda experts to cause global influence (duh).

It’s certainly common and prevalent that people do not tend to want to accept how easily they are influenced. But, if you call yourself “awake”… then naturally, there are some things that you have awakened to, meaning that you admit (let in) that you have been duped. Whether it was by the FEW utilizing a Science, by deliberate intent or not, You now take responsibility for your part but it errs to take responsibility for those that duped you or for the rest of their audience. You can stop the infiltration into your own “reality” life but you will continue to see its prevalence affecting vast numbers of others.

The initial cut n paste above in my post here… perhaps could start a new thread... this reality creating b'ness.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Moxie

...people do not tend to want to accept how easily they are influenced...

It's is embarrassing for all of us, I believe. This is where our humility will serve us well...

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by Moxie

This is about Obama‘s USE of hidden hypnosis techniques….
This does not mean that Obama is AWARE of the depth that the initial thread starter article speaks of., for we might ask, just how much of his speeches are written entirely by himself?

What I wonder about O is how clued in he is about a lot of things. I mean, does he actually believe he was elected because the US wanted change so badly? I seriously doubt he gets that he was allowed to win because the PTB believes he'll be easily influenced and controlled.

I thought he did do some of his own speech writing...nevertheless, all the politicos are under the reign of their handlers now. They hammer the same points over and over while they try to avoid risking any off the cuff remark. We could blame the media for driving them to that point, but really it's the electorate who's not smart enough think for themselves.

Originally Posted by Moxie

Most certainly, he has studied up a bit & become aware of intentional mannerisms while presenting himself as any person in public speaking would be inclined to look into….how to project your voice, timing, how to hold your body, exude confidence, that sort of thing.

I think that much of what they're presenting in the "research paper" is a stretch. It's supposed scientific proof, but as you say this could likely be said about any highly influential person with well written material, who happens to be a good orator.

And geez...the guy's a politician, from Chicago no less. One shouldn't even have to be "awake" to know there's probably a bottle of snake oil in his pocket.

[Seashore]

...all the politicos are under the reign of their handlers now...

I believe this to be true, and that we need to continually remind ourselves about it...

[Anchor]

If a politician made this kind of speech today, do you think he would be accused of using mass hypnosis techniques and NLP to get his message across?

Would it matter ?

A..

[indakaz]

Obama's favorite line 'yes we can!' backwards 'Thank you satan' Don't take my word for it go to youtube or try it yourself on a recording program.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by indakaz

Obama's favorite line 'yes we can!' backwards 'Thank you satan' Don't take my word for it go to youtube or try it yourself on a recording program.

Freeman talks about this.

I don't know what to make of reverse speech. I don't know whether I believe it or not. I haven't studied the subject, though.

Here's Freeman's YouTube video:

[greybeard]

Im afraid Ive given up on politics to bring peace to this world.
I only posted on this thread because I have an interest in N.L.P.
While its not of this thread.
We have been at war for 95% of human history.
in my opinion the only way we can get out of this cycle is to get into spiritual teachings and learn how to transcend the ego.

Regards to all
Chris

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Im afraid Ive given up on politics to bring peace to this world.

I can understand that.

Originally Posted by greybeard

learn how to transcend the ego.