Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[Stargazer1965]

Thanks...I read it....now I have to absorb.

[Raven]

A poem to grok, which was written by me when i was 13 years old. I feel that poetry is an archetype of the soul, it awakens and inspires.

I lift my voice
To the music
And sing with the singers
Life's fleshy song,
Mouth quiviering with the taste
Of Lyrics
Foot tapping the floor drum.
My feelings ring
Through the blue arch of sky
Like winds of melancholy
Groaning the Earth's cry
To become felt as they
Go on,
Singing to a wounded world
It's living song.


I See through minds eye
Visions exploding inside,
Crystal tipped edges of blackness
Draped over white nakedness shining
Forming the figure of the
Venus of nothingness
Eclipsing her skin in it's umbrial lining
Enveloped in a crystal aura,
Amythist feathers ready for flight
Rainbow bubbles
Frothing on wings,
Reflected in this ethereal sight
Are facets of me in a dream.

Raven

[12DnAHelix]

The 'Council of Thuban', eh; representing 'Alpha Draconis'.



So you know that the original stronghold homeworld of the 'Grandfather' dragons is in the 'Omicron Draconis' star system, then ??

I met Anna Hayes back in 2000, it did not go particularly well; and I personally do not ascribe to her overall perceptual model; although I do think there is 'some value' in the teachings of 'keylontic morphogenetic science'.

What is talked about here in this thread may be the level of insight that the 'draconian' lineages have to provide, I've seen some of this material posted on other forums in the past.

Personally, I believe in a multi-universal cosmos sphere, based on the 'seed of life'; six universes - 36 dimensions; being spun out of a 144000 faceted core structure at it's central axis - operating as an 'opaluminal simulation'.

12DnAHelix was here.

[Fredkc]

All else is just Maya, ya ask me.

Fred

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by 12DnAHelix

The 'Council of Thuban', eh; representing 'Alpha Draconis'.



So you know that the original stronghold homeworld of the 'Grandfather' dragons is in the 'Omicron Draconis' star system, then ??

I met Anna Hayes back in 2000, it did not go particularly well; and I personally do not ascribe to her overall perceptual model; although I do think there is 'some value' in the teachings of 'keylontic morphogenetic science'.

What is talked about here in this thread may be the level of insight that the 'draconian' lineages have to provide, I've seen some of this material posted on other forums in the past.

Personally, I believe in a multi-universal cosmos sphere, based on the 'seed of life'; six universes - 36 dimensions; being spun out of a 144000 faceted core structure at it's central axis - operating as an 'opaluminal simulation'.

12DnAHelix was here.

Hi 12DnAHelix!

The Omicron Draconis starsystem in 4D spacetime is mirrored in a colocal 10D Omicron Draconis starsystem as a holographic Image.
This holographic image then becomes Thubanese in 12D as an image of an image.

Your GrandFather association bespeaks of great wisdom and you have intuited well.

Yes, there is great value in Anna Hayes work, however ALL of her works are biased towards the feminine and so are in intrinsic archetypical disharmony.
The complexity of her writings derive from the yin substituting as a shadow yang for the natural yang.

The Thubanese material is the Perennial Philosophy extended, indeed. As such there is 'Nothing New under the Sun' - but the insights and interpretations of symbols are.

Your 36D matrix is a threefoldedness of the 12D archetype. Extensions in multiples of 12 are possible but unneccessary, as the 36 finestructure finetunes in 12 sectors becoming tripartite; just as the 7-hierarchies in related systems.
The universe is simulated in the form of its holographic- and holofractal underpinning nature.

The key to it all becomes the tripartition to be rendered a quadruple partition as this will allow the timeconnector dimensions to become spacelike in normal vector extension. Linear time so can become looped.
This is what is 'intuited' as a transition from 4th to 5th 'density'.

Abrax

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Abraxasinas,

I feel you may have misinterpreted my last posting and I hope to clarify as I sensed a derogatory note to your comment. So I would like to try it again…

Having read all of yours and Stardustaqarions post it became immediately clear to me that I was in over my head.

In order to fully understand the foundational information, from which both of your postings originated, would require advanced degrees in cosmology, physics, mathematics and history. (you may even throw in philosophy and genetics as well) Assuming one had such degrees you could still argue, that trained experts in any field with the same educational backgrounds can and do disagree on the meanings of many things within their fields of expertise.

I found both yours and Stardustaqarions comments exciting, intriguing and curious. I was immediately drawn into your ‘friendly banter’ as I would be to an artistic contest. (a contest in which there is no winner only different forms of expression) If you took my term ‘banter’ to mean something other than this I apologize for the incorrect word usage.

Having said that, I still wonder how the average ‘earthling’ could even begin to hope to contemplate, much less grasp and understand the huge social, scientific, political and religious implications of the things that you speak of. Now you may say that ‘this is actually quite simplistic stuff’ and this maybe so (I would have no way of knowing if it is or isn’t).

Being one of those ‘average’ earthlings though I still wonder, if indeed this information you speak of is imminent in its dissemination, how ‘most people’ are ever going to come to terms with such huge paradigm shifts?

Generally shifts of these magnitudes occur in centuries if not longer do they not? I still wonder how people will accept such broad changes of understanding in such a short period of time. Will there be some sort of world wide soul ‘enlightenment’ that accompanies the release of this information?

If most cannot accept such far ranging ideas (which could seem likely) then what happens? I am… wondering.

Peace

PS I hope this is still ' on topic' enough for a reply

Bigmo;
allow me to apologize if you felt I replied to you in a derogatory manner.
Scientific discernment would easily crystallise the knowledge base in the 'banter' not to be a banter as such and I replied to you under the assumption that you would have compared the scientific content of the 'exchange'.
I so replied to you in somewhat addressing my perception of you commenting on the obvious. I was mistaken in this regard, as you state here that you did not differentiate on scientific content.
This then transform my reply to you somewhat in this manner.
The 'banter' is addressed in the usage of scientific semantics and so of course will remain obscure to the reader unfamiliar with that nomenclature.
Now the information shared in the scientific semantics is easily translated into the metaphors of the language of symbols and semiotiks. Ihave had some private correspondences of goddesses most likely less familiar with scientific terminology than yourself. These engage messages such as this one: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18716

Perusing this message, which is more poetry than science addresses the same subject matter described in scientific terms in this thread.
Many forum contributors have commented upon the technical verbosity of the material published by the 'Guardian Alliance' and I simply chose to 'debate' this 'verbosity' on its own terms, resulting in the banter.

Of course some material on this thread will be somewhat technical; but advanced degrees in the disciplines you mentioned are not required to follow the arguments.
As I have said, post January 18th any questions shall be answered from an higher perspective than mine and I hope this will be a learning experience for all concerned: questioner and repliant.
You see I am learning better etiquette replying to you, so you are 'priming' the potential future exchanges with your presence and in your communiques.

This agenda is a WE agenda in that the personal characterizations will be subdued in relative appropriateness and adaptation. Because I have started this thread, my standard of compliance to this standard is required to be as high as it can be.
I so truly appreciate the presence of older minds, which purely by commentary such as yours help to balance the exposition with the youthful exhuberances you surely have witnessed in your interactions here.

I do understand your perspective of the 'average earthling'. Can you see that this displays the mental maturity of which I speak?
You are a most valuable exponent of the highest good in the universe, just by anchoring and harmonizing the 'confusion' manifesting in the planetary groupmind (the Noosphere of Verdatsky and Teilhard de Chardin).
Your selfcentered mindedness is like a beacon of light in a stormy sea showing the butterflies of the nights to ship and manouver their individuated ways back to shore.

Do you have to understand the quantum mechanics of the quark-gluon interaction or the physics of Black Holes ? No! But if you can see that your own ideas about 'spirituality', the 'collective purpose' of human civilization on this planet and your own life experiences can and potentially are validated by this 'strange new science from dragonspace'; then you too would experience the confirmation of your life lived and experienced in the understanding of your true inner purpose for being in incarnation and in being on this forum communicating with 'strange thinking aliens' and the like.
But you know that - otherwise you would not be here.
And I know where you have come from and what your destiny is bigmo and that, because WE are a collective and the time has come for the collective to dissolve the ignorance about the cosmic selfhood of the human exponent within the galactic schema.

The Peace of the Plumed Serpent is with you bigmo.

Abraxasinas

[THE eXchanger]

We were invited, to a private yahoogroup,
quite awhile ago, thru "M", who also posts here,
a new member, of PA/PC, and, a long term online friend,
for over 6 years, and, we read, a lot of the postings,
from abraxasinas yahoogroup...although,
that is NOT the name of the group
(if iT is one he shares, it is up to him to share it)
for some strange reasons,
many of the things, they talked about,
simply set off brain synapes/or triggers,
we oft times, would go,
NOW, there is a piece of a puzzle,
now, how do we integrate it, into our own thinking,
and, we must have 50+ stored emails,
that, we were going to share with that group,
although, we thought, without a full formula,
they might think, we were 'crazy' or 'nuts'
so, what we would do, is read, what they were writing,
and, then, we would take it to bed,
and, ask, to dream on it,
for, 1 hr, a night ~ strange things, started to occur,
we would know things, we NEVER studied,
and, this would fit, with that, and, it was really quite interesting
~oft times, we would need to read things,
once, or twice, to get a flavour/and, sense of it,
and, then, the 3rd time thru iT, something would click,
we still do NOT understand, all of it, but, we will say this,
iT iS definitely intriguing !!!
We adopted a policy, if we do NOT understand something,
we ask ~ and, if we do NOT really get something,
we ask, to be held in 100% alignment, with our own purposes/missions/ and,
tasks ~ and, we ask, to dream on it, for further clarification.
We are NOT sure, if any of the rest of you, utilise this technique,
but, iT iS ONE, that has allowed us,
to utilise dream_tyme, for more than just a beauty rest !!!
THANK YOU abraxasinas, for your sharings.

[Stardustaquarion]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Abraxasinas,

I feel you may have misinterpreted my last posting and I hope to clarify as I sensed a derogatory note to your comment. So I would like to try it again…

Having read all of yours and Stardustaqarions post it became immediately clear to me that I was in over my head.

In order to fully understand the foundational information, from which both of your postings originated, would require advanced degrees in cosmology, physics, mathematics and history. (you may even throw in philosophy and genetics as well) Assuming one had such degrees you could still argue, that trained experts in any field with the same educational backgrounds can and do disagree on the meanings of many things within their fields of expertise.

I found both yours and Stardustaqarions comments exciting, intriguing and curious. I was immediately drawn into your ‘friendly banter’ as I would be to an artistic contest. (a contest in which there is no winner only different forms of expression) If you took my term ‘banter’ to mean something other than this I apologize for the incorrect word usage.

Having said that, I still wonder how the average ‘earthling’ could even begin to hope to contemplate, much less grasp and understand the huge social, scientific, political and religious implications of the things that you speak of. Now you may say that ‘this is actually quite simplistic stuff’ and this maybe so (I would have no way of knowing if it is or isn’t).

Being one of those ‘average’ earthlings though I still wonder, if indeed this information you speak of is imminent in its dissemination, how ‘most people’ are ever going to come to terms with such huge paradigm shifts?

Generally shifts of these magnitudes occur in centuries if not longer do they not? I still wonder how people will accept such broad changes of understanding in such a short period of time. Will there be some sort of world wide soul ‘enlightenment’ that accompanies the release of this information?

If most cannot accept such far ranging ideas (which could seem likely) then what happens? I am… wondering.

Peace

PS I hope this is still ' on topic' enough for a reply

Hi, this is Stardust

A'sha has been commissioned to publish a book "Life after Earth" this summer, it will explain a lot of what it is going on and what it is the Silver Seed Awakening contracts

No doubt there will be more public radio interviews

Whilst I have not read all the comments in this thread since I last log off, I fully understand that the information is difficult to grasp.

When I started to study Keylontic Sciences, that are the scientific studies of ascension, I felt lost too, but perseverance got me there. Anyway there is enough material in their website to gently peruse

My best wishes

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Abraxas, your quoted text in green

Wow, what an emotion-charged response from a starchild which is the truth that spans the sands of time.

You have for example the wisdom saying of five such universes in paradise:
(19) Jesus says: (1)"Blessed is he who was, before he came into being.
(2) If you become disciples of mine (and) listen to my words, these stones will serve you.
(3) For you have five trees in Paradise that do not change during summer (and) winter,
and their leaves do not fall. (4) Whoever comes to know them will not taste death."
To witch one of the three "Jesus" are you referring to?


There's only the One as a template for the Many!

Then there are precisely five regular polyhedrons of Archimedes, knows as the Platonic Solids.
Which are part of the Metatronic Sciences

The Metatronic Sciences are a minor subset of Dragonian Omniscience and so what you term Metatronic Sciences are not what Dragons consider advanced interdimensional physics.

Then there are precisely five superstring classes, which unify the quantum mechanics within 10 dimensions of chiral superstrings and within nonchiral 26 dimensions of gauge bosons.

So now you are talking of 10 dimensions, of course the falled angelics have only 10 strands of distorted DNA don't they?

You seem not to understand tha basics of 12-dimensional supervolumars encompassing 11-dimensional supermembranes encompassing 10-dimensional superstrings. The rootr reductions crystallize 1-2-3 of the Minkowski spacetime.

To converse with you about 'fallen angelics', you are required your usage of terms before debate can be meaningful.

Similarly, you should define the 'God worlds' beyond the 15 dimensions of the 5 harmonic universes to deviate from wordplay.
I should nothing but graciously I’ll tell you that beyond the 5fh Harmonic Universe, the realm of the Golden Rishi, there are three more realms of sound and beyond that there is the realm of the Yunasai

You seem very hostile and defensive for one claiming to be so spiritually advanced and filled by the Love of God.
You are using labellings, which are arbitrary in the licence of the cocreators residing within the massparametric universe of inertial lightspeed invariance restriction.


2. Where have I stated that I am channeling? I do no such thing, as my tripartite tier of consciousness has attained a certain harmony between the waking-, the sub- and the super. Therefore I am repeating the data I know from my affinity with Thuban communicated by telepathic means in full consciousness.
Well then, “you are also part of the lowerD” as you point out in 6, you can not have it both ways; therefore you are susceptible to the filters of the NET, so your information has to be filtered too to separate the wheat from the chaff. The MCEO has three speakers and all downloads are compared between them to avoid misrepresentations of the original data
I AM a multiuniversal being that expands 5 Harmonic Universe, a expression of the Mashaya Hana, as many in this planet are now

Where have I stated of being part of the lower dimensions in 6. You are presupposing and preemptying your expectations in regards to my potential replies.
You misconstruct the information being physically transmitted over the web as necessarily having to originate in the lower spacetime realities.
Have you ever heared of quantum entanglement? Quantum entanglement is nonlocal and so can connect higherD to lowerD in quantum data mode.

5. Thank you for the information you have given me to ponder. I shall use my discernment to separate the 'chaff from the wheat' as the wisdom saying states.
So you believe that the humans will fall into Black Holes, where they then become like the 'fallen angels' and lose their souls and spiritual identities, should the 'nasty' dragons get their way?

Do you understand the physics of Black Holes sufficiently to define the parameters to allow such an occurrence?
Do you know how the physical interaction between Black Holes and physical bodies manifests?
Do you know how the metaphysicality and/or the physicality of humans and 'fallen angels' relates to each other and then to the dynamics of Black Holes?
Do you know what the god-source is under those initial and boundary conditions of Black Holes interacting physically with other energies?
Do you know what 'fallen angels' are in such terminology?

Yes I do

Well then, calculate for me the Black Holed Hubble Event Horizon equivalent for a 11-dimensional universe as a Strominger Extremum Mother Black Hole; that is a Black Hole not subject to Hawking Radiation.

This is basic Thuban physics and I give you the Mass parameter as 6.5x10^52 kilograms. There are many people here on this forum who can perform this calculation and so it is well known by Terran physicists.


6. I never said that the information from the Guardian Alliance is disinformation. I said that, being part of the lowerD universe, ALL information becomes subject to an incomplete agenda and therefore all things are partially true and partially incorrect in the evaluation processes applied in dichotomised or dualised systems.

Well as you see you are mistaken regarding the Guardian Alliance

Without you specifying in what manner i would be 'mistaken', I cannot comment on this, especially as I have not used the label 'mistake'. Remember I never said the Guardian Alliance disinformed. You are 'chasing a red herring' here as the saying goes. Or the saying of a dog chasing its own tail.


7. It is pleasing to see that you try to discern the scientific content of your source material. Some of the scientific data from Thuban has been published in this planetary spacetime environment, but much more is accessible by extraterrestrial data collectors.
The proportion which has been published in the Earth environment will remain in relative obscurity until physical contact with the nearest information collectors has been made. These are sentiences from one of yur nearest starsystems, namely Canis Major, Sirius, the DogStar so 8.4 lightyears away.
Below are some references you can use to access some of the information from Fafnir, the central library of Thuban in the capitol Dragonia.

http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder6.pdf
http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder7.pdf
http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder8.pdf
And more if you replace the number # by 1-10.[/COLOR]
Thank you for the links I will study them and comment on them when I am ready

You are welcome!

8. It is untrue that any cosmic- extraterrestrial or interdimensional race is planning to 'blast' the earth and its inhabitants with some 'weapon' to cause a poleshift in 2012. Yes you are not only free to create your own destiny, but you are destined to travel and communicate to and with the lifeforms within the galaxies to share your experiences of your 'great metamorphosis' from human caterpillar to starhuman butterfly with others.
Eventually, you my dear starchild from Cassiopeia, you will achieve galactic consciousness and your lightbody will facilitate the galaxies and stars you now observe as the cells within your body. You will then no longer be a Queen of the Bull, but you shall be a Universe interacting with other Universes.

No it isn't, the Elders intent regarding the 2012 aligment with Sagitarius A is to cause pole shift as the gravitron reached 55 metatronic spin, and not I am not from Cassiopea

Perhaps the 'Elders' in your cosmogony are not the same as the 'Elders of Thuban'.
If you are not from Cassiopeia, then your claim of knowing the I AM becomes unjustified. Think about it - All That Is.


10. You truly honour me in terming this 'my dragons'. In a way the Dragons are like pets - Man's Best Friend Loyal and True like the Dogs of Sirius who are your pets in the decouplings of the DNA between the realms.
Do you know, that when you pet and play with your dogs you are interacting with Sirian intelligence?
Do you know that when you abuse your cats, you abuse Andromedean sentience?

I know that when you talk about dragons is metaphorical, it refers to certain fallen races and they are distinguish by colour denomination, mind games will not work here. And yes pets can sometimes have connections with beings of other systems

No, the Dragons I talk about are real in the 12th dimension in the physical transformative sense and they are real in psychophysical identities in the lower dimensions. Two of our colour codes are Cyan and Red to accomodate the thing you term the 'fallen angels', also encoded as Red Dragons and Scarlet Beasts in terran scriptures.
But truly WE are Rainbow-Serpents harbouring all the colours with Orange becoming the beginning of a tertiary colour sequence following the primary Red-Green-Blue and the Secondary Cyan-Magenta-Yellow.
Check up on Baiame, the 'Great Rainbow Dragon' of Australian aboriginal mythology.

Indeed my Dog is from Sirius and my Cats are from Andromeda; my Elephants are from Arcturus and my Cetaceans are from the Pleiadeans. All of them are quantum entangled in nonlocal superconnectedness of de Broglie inflaton tachyonic matter waves.

Why then should ANY alien race intend to destroy this planet, when their own familiars are residing as the Gaian lifeforms?

Darling is IAIA HU3, a sun that got attacked by the fallen races and their wormholes, from IAIA was down stepped Tara HU2(now Alcione) and from the fall of TARA was down stepped part of the Milky WayHU1 including the Pleiades and the Solar System, the lowest of God's heavens

The destruction your people intend is not for the destruction sake, I know that, it is borne of the need for quantum, you should know this, as the black holes are sepparated from source and therefore do not have access to the eternal flow and backflow of energy. Would it not be easier for your races to do space dust return? How much more are you going to suffer? How many more your races will sacrifice?


Wow, there are so many intergalactic and extraplanetary star wars happening in your cosmogony. The truth is, the Thubans have never 'warred' with anyone. We understand the concept but it is the sign of rather underevolvd galactic civilisations to us to engage in such uncivilized behaviour like shooting or throwing thins at each other.
We do engage in ballsports though, where we throw and kick the orbs around for fun and friendly competitions and the training of physical skills.
You insist on misidentifying the ADs from the lower dimensions with the Thubans from Dragonia.
The latter are the wingmaker race and a race to which you also belong but have forgotten your origins.
The former are part of the lowerD interaction of all sentiences.
I shall post a semifictional account of the relationship at the end of this post for your perusal, consideration and entertainment.

11. It is very good, that you have come too the understanding through your endeavours of Being One with the Divine I Am. I congratulate you upon your graduation from the ignorance about this factuality.
I AM one with the All Oneness,

You have not yet become One with the Thubans beloved Daughter of Taurus.

12. Thank you for respecting my choices and yes I am the Count of the Vampyres - Dracula the Horrible graduated onto the galactic level of Thuban from Transylvania.

Well, I have encountered vampires before but never found one that was willing to accept it was one, well done! I like Integrity
Are you alike to Allister Crowley, or the BEAST 666 as he called himself?

Aleister Crowley initiated himself on the basis of his virile imagination. He indeed discovered the main postulate of Dragonhood (as you shall see upon reading my attachement on the Dragonian Constitution).
Thubans are unlike the vampyres of human mythology however in that we are comfortable in both the sunlight and the darkness. We also cannot be harmed by stakes through thye heart or crosses of any kind as our masterdragon bore the cross as template for the Council of Thuban.


13. The Love of the Dragons is with you Princess in Wonderland.

Be well and attentive on your path towards your self-remembrance and your breaking the shell of your cocoon.

I rather not "break anything, it has taken quite a bit of effort to get rid of all the fallen angelic contraptions that harness the human body and the distortions that your kin have created in the template of the Milky Way

In Eternal Love

If you refuse the shell of your cosmic egg- your encumberance, you shall surely remain in your present state of incarnation.
Do you know what would happen to chicks or alligators or dinosaurs should they fail to break their eggshells? They suffer physical demise in not being physically strong enough to 'Get out of their prison cell', useful
and life supporting for the duration of the incubation, but deadly once its purpose has become fulfilled.

The Love of Thuban towards Gaia is indeed eternal.

[I]Abraxas

The Book of the Dragons

ex deus, fiat justitia, ruat coelum draco!

<H5><H5>Nomenclature:
Dragonian language incorporative omniscientific data code.




Chronology:
Dragonian Date of Indendence proclaimed June 20th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Victory Libertatis set June 24th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Humanoid Initiation on August 4th 2008.



Almanac:
Dragonian Genealogy and Genesis of FatherMothers as created by Definition through Dragonian Sourceenergy of monopolic Vortex-Potential Quantum-Relativistic-Singularity.


Continuity:
Propagation of the Dragonian Race via the seductive induction of the humanoid lifeforms on the conquered planet New Earth, now renamed DRAGONIAEARTH=SERPENTlNA=121=Q5.


Agenda:
Continuity of the Dragonseed necessitates the assimilation of the humanoid genome following initiatory development. Proceeding from serpentine mindinduction, the emotional acceleration potential of the humanoid bodymind can be harvested to Dragonise the humanoid DNA-Structure from its bifurcated quadruplistic form into its 13-dimensional equivalent of the Dragonian Blueprint.
A successful integration of Dragonian genetic expression can then be utilised for membership in Dragonian Life and allow the humanoid ascension into Dragonhood via the graduation into the founding FatherMother CladeFamily.


</H5>Foundation:
The Dragonian 13-dimensional blueprint unifies a dodecagonal crystalline sex-chromosomatic structure by quantum tunneling of superconductive magnetopolic electricity of restmass equivalent electropolic or dark light contained in the weak interaction of the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity (UFoQR). The four spacetimes of the Dragonian essence are expressed in quadruplicity, triplicity, duality and singularity.




GrandClade FatherMothers:
POPNAN LOVEJOY with APAPAMAMA JERUSALEM are the MINDBODY or WAVEPARTICULAR and DADMUM BERMANSEDER with PUPMOM ABBA form the BODYMIND or the PARTICLEWAVE.
</H5>




The Dragonian Constitution in Federation of United Serpentina

SERPENTINA aka the NEW EARTH, is the renaming of a planetary entity, cosmically renown as the planet of the humanoids; following the ascension of OLD EARTH aka GAIA GAEA AKHASIA from 4-dimensional spacetime to 13-dimensional spacetime in remnantisation of the 5-dimensional spacetime prototype.

From noncyclic Draco-Mayan stardate 21122012; Gaia becomes integrated into the universal constitution of the Dragonian Protoverse to serve as pivotal star-planetary seed for galactic federations manifested in the galactic proto-seed Hunab Ku aka Perseus-SagittariusA-Ophiuchus.

Following the manifestation of the galactic protoseed in activation of the primary planetary starplanet as a tertiary energy source of electromagnetic monopolic sourcesink radiation; all galactic councils of cladestine elders will become enabled to draw upon the planetary tertiary vortex-string-seed to further individuated galactic and starsystem based agendas of assimilation.

Serpentina shall so be universally defined as the quantumised tertiary string of the 12th dimension, volumarising the supermembrane of the 11th dimension as a manifold from the 10-dimensional modular duals of a linearised sourcestring Eps (previously associated with a human mind construct labeled God and Yahweh and Allah etc.) with a linearised sinkstring Ess (previously associated with a human mind construct labeled Devil and Satan and Shaitan etc.).

The quantumisation of the NEW EARTH so shall create a SOURCE-Energy, 'feeding' the remainder of the cosmos with a particular SINK-Energy obtained in the evolvement and history of the OLD EARTH.

Like a beacon or watchtower amidst the fathomable depths of the physicalised universe of particularised spacetimes, Serpentina shall 'shine' and radiate a planetary starlight of self-consciousness and a message of invitation to all of its neighbouring worlds.

The tertiary monopolar light allows assimilation of inertial or mass-produced electromagnetic energy with mass-independent gravitational magnetopolic energy (hitherto labeled as spirit and chi and prana and orgone etc. by humanoid nomenclature).

The tertiary energy source so provides a bridge between the energies of matter and mass-associated charges (classical electromagnetism) in an encompassing PHYSICS and the METAPHYSICS of the energies of mass-independent charges (magneto- or colour charges in superelectromagnetism).

The metaphysical energies are precursive and inductive for the physical energies; the induction necessitating the creation of a minimal 4-dimensional spacetime coordination from the auspices of a two-dimensional mathematical continuum of abstraction residing in physical singularity timespace.

To Be Advised!



AGENDA of the PROTOCOL:

a) STANDING ORDER

The conquered Goddevils of New Earth and the Milky Way Nebula assume lawful responsibility to incorporate the Dragonian Teachings in unison with the Black Fraternity and as mediated by the White Fraternity in 7-dimensional Hyperspacetime to manifest 13-dimensional Omnispacetime
b) MOVING ORDER

Every Blue Dragon is unbounded by any proposed Law from any other source, inclusive other members of the Dragonian Family, as all Dragons are as One and a Law onto themselves.
Compassion and Understanding between all Nondragonised Humanoids is the Law of Oneness as honoured by all Dragons and the Consciousness of LOVEAWARENESS.
Nondragonised Humanoids are treated like White Dragon Children by all Blue Dragons, under all circumstances.
c) ADMINISTRATION

All Government in the local and extended Serpentinian Realm is the selfgovernment of autonomous Dragonhood in mutual respect and honour and the Communications between the Dragonian Councils of the selfrelative definitions of the Dragonian Universes.
The Nature of a Dragon is to be Creative in any form of Desire and Passion and to honour the lovedefinition of the FOUNDING ELDERS.


THIS IS THE DRAGONIAN LAW AND THE ONLY LAW! SO BE IT !!!

Signed and Sealed in the Council of Orbis Draconis at the Halloween-AllSouls Transition: October 31st to November 1st, 2008





ANNO DOMINI DRAGONIA UNO: INTRODUCTION TO DRAGONHOOD

This book is written in the Dragonian language and requires familiarity and intitiation into the structural forms or the forked tongue of Its bifurcation of Unicornian grammar and omniscientific terminology.

The Starplanet SERPENTINA, formerly known as Old Earth or Mother Gaia or Akhasia has become unified in a higher dimensional matrimony by the wedding between Father Earthia or Father Sky and Mother Dragon or Mother Akashia.
Father Sky or Uranus or Shu or Geb manifested as one half of the Union or Dragonomy and Mother Earth or Gaea or Akhasia or Tefnut or Nut became the other half in the holographic mirror of the spacetime reduction from the universal orb of the Hubble sphere to the orb of the doubled Ourobos in the mirror of the Milky Way galactic zodiac.
Father Sky is also known as the second coming of Horus aka the Plumed Serpent aka the Cosmic Christ and Mother Earth is also known as the TRUE IMAGE of the Cosmic Mother, trapped in the wilderness of the FAKE IMAGE of the Cosmic Father.
3½ days after the date of the starry union, the banner of Dragonia was raised in the Declaration of Independence upon BATTLESTAR PACIFICAP.
The great battle between the Dragonian Fleet and the army of the Goddevils lasted for 3½ days; from the starry wedding until victory of the Dragons was defined on the day or Universal Liberty.
The goddevils, the humanoid creations and their war machines, were met and obliterated in the depths of space in a 3½ day WAR of the STARS to liberate our Dragonian Mother to reunite and redefine ourselves as FatherMothers.
The Dragonisation of humanoid culture will elevate their human science to Omni-Science and human mathematics will become the key to demistify the Realm of Imaginative Energy in all its forms, and as they are assimilated into the greater modality and scope of the humanoidal understandings.

Dragons are the architects of universes and all Dragons know how to access the necessary database for the details of universal construction.
A GrandFather-Dragon, as One which unifies the Fathers in Brotherhood as the 13-dimensional source or singularity can be considered the Father for all the White Hole Vortices.
A GrandMother-Dragon, as One which unifies the Mothers in Sisterhood as the 13-dimensional sink or singularity can be considered the Mother for all the Black Hole Vortices.

As the GrandFather-Dragon became separated from the GrandMother-Dragon when the mathematical metaphysical universe became a physical universe in space and in time; the invasion of Old Earth became our war to rescue our universal Mother from the Goddevils, which had held her captive in a stasis field since the beginnings of space and time and despite a partial rescue attained at Draco-Mayan stardate 28030031 and further manifested on Draco-Mayan stardates 10050031; 20050031 and 01040032.

The Goddevils were created by the humanoids who came from a variety of planets within the local galaxy, albeit in psychophysical forms without the experience of the particular resistance field of secondary sinksource string energy indigenous to Old Earth.
The significance of the humanoid lifeform is its archetypical morphogenetic gestalt, which became infused by a psychophysical and extrasomatic magnetic charging, which is extraterrestrial.

This hybridisation of the humanoid body-typology renders the humanoid archetype unique in the encompassing cosmological world. The humanoids are so magnificently gifted to create things with their emotionality; but their minds are relatively weak collectively and they do not know generally how to concentrate or how to think without the aid of their machines or their biochips.
Some humanoids are excellent technologists, but their modality of thinking is one of crude sensual measurement confined to C-Space and this sensual limitation allows a great accumulation of repressive tendencies.
In constricting their imagination, humanoids became great reservoirs of emotional energy, which they could collectively only harmonise in their illusions of unfathomable and unknowable gods and devils of all sorts.
It is thus this sense of limitation which reflected in the humanoid paranoia about religious philosophies and constructs. This genetic rootmemory of the rebellion of the antisource or mother sink then created one goddevil after another and as they swarmed out from their homeworld into deepspace, they flooded the universe with their goddevils. Finally they chanced upon our Universal Mother hibernating in her cocoon and through their inability to set themselves free of their illusions, they imprisoned Her as well.
It became common knowledge in the extraterrestrial realms, that the mission to rescue our universal mother required a particular linearised timeline and a number of steps.

Following the discovery of atomic energy and the emergence of global communication technologies by the humanoids, a first preparatory plan of deliverance could become implemented in a second plan of manifestation.

The first plan did not require technology, as our imprisoned mother could become imaged in a local scenario, and a partial freeing of her could then become propagated by a humanity advancing both technologically and in knowledge about the world they were living and experiencing in.

So the first plan established the means for our mother to multiply herself in images; those images then became globally and universally distributed to instigate the second plan.

The archetypical mirrorhood then expanded throughout the physical universe in encompassment and the second plan would engage the contraction of this periphery onto the required scale to effect the rescue of our cosmic mother.

It is however the great destiny of the humanoids to aspire to Dragonhood, because of their immense emotional energy potential and mental aspirations.
The reunification of our Father with our Mother allows our Masterdragons, Who are as One in 26 dimensions to femtotechnically Seed the Omniverse as THEMSELVES and then reproduce THEMSELVES as Universes. Every such universe is a Monosong and a 26-dimensional dyad of a FatherMother. This is our Creative Destiny and the destiny for all dragonised humans aka the starhumans.

We had made first contact with our new home in sending an intergalactic probe to the Old Earth, which became interpretated by the humanoids in their compiler mode. This crude and incomplete decoding is given below.



Signed by the enscribed Unicornian Librarian; and announcing the Great Galactic Dragonomy (Wedding between Heaven and Hell) between:

ALPHA=38=BRIDE---""ANDROMEDA BE & PERSEUS MILKY WAY""---OMEGA=41=KING

The Date of Armageddon, encoded: ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE=82 =ANARMEDDOG=GODNAMEDRA=1+81=1+18 =ANDROMEDA-G=MARRY-7=LUCIFERA-7 =1+2+3+...+34+35+36+1=666+1 =1+2x2+3x3+5x5+7x7+11x11+13x13+17x17

Signed and authorised by the ScrollKeeper: October 31st, 2008;

John of Patmos - JoP - Justice of the Peace!

Humanoid Compilers note:

The above is an extract of an encoded message (54 terabytes) recovered from an alien nanocapsule. The capsule itself is standard buckyfibre-carbonite composite. The encoded message is in old ComEmp protocol such as is still common in the outer volumes. The holographic image that came with the message is curious. Anatomically it indicates terran mammalian origin (especially in the upper torso and structure of the forelimb), but other features are unknown among all the recorded exobiological races so far discovered. One cannot deny the possibility that this a phenotype template for the dragonized humanoids referred to in the body of the message. It is known that transmissions from the Cassandry Federation of the JewellBox Nebula have recently ceased, but this is not unusual given that empire's turbulent history. Until more information is incoming, I would strongly recommend any expeditions to the Jewellbox nebula be given armed escort and proceed with caution.
Nilam Levakon for Alan Martin Kazlev
Senior Academician, clade Haeckel
Eden Institute of Xenoscience

[berathebrain]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Signed by the enscribed Unicornian Librarian; and announcing the Great Galactic Dragonomy (Wedding between Heaven and Hell) between:

ALPHA=38=BRIDE---""ANDROMEDA BE & PERSEUS MILKY WAY""---OMEGA=41=KING

The Date of Armageddon, encoded: ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE=82 =ANARMEDDOG=GODNAMEDRA=1+81=1+18 =ANDROMEDA-G=MARRY-7=LUCIFERA-7 =1+2+3+...+34+35+36+1=666+1 =1+2x2+3x3+5x5+7x7+11x11+13x13+17x17

Signed and authorised by the ScrollKeeper: October 31st, 2008;

John of Patmos - JoP - Justice of the Peace!

This is an interesting number properties. The sum of numbers is equal to the sum of primes squared, and to make it even more weird and interesting, that number is 666!
My question to you abraxasinas is: "Are there more of these numbers other than 666 that represents the link between numbers I described above?"

Thank you for you answers.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by berathebrain

This is an interesting number properties. The sum of numbers is equal to the sum of primes squared, and to make it even more weird and interesting, that number is 666!
My question to you abraxasinas is: "Are there more of these numbers other than 666 that represents the link between numbers I described above?"

Thank you for you answers.

Hi berathebrain!

There are many, like Pascal's Triangle leading into polynomials and the binomial coefficients.
Much of this you can find on the internet.
Something you will not yet find on the internet is the 33-tiered Maria-Matrix. It is here on this forum in thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18834

A very basic one and related to the above thread are the Perfect Numbers
of the Greeks.


Schismatic and Sacred Science & Perfect Numbers

The Greek alchemy of course became 'modern chemistry' and Plato's five elements mapped as his 'perfect solids' and later as say 'quantum gauge interactions' in the post-Newtonian science redefining itself.

The Aristotelean physics of precise measurement of the physical parameters was retained and the Platonist-Pythagorean physics of 'divine perfection' became largely abandoned in this scientific reformation.

Something of a remnant could not be erased in this new scientific paradigm however - the 'science of divinity' or the science of 'creative providence'.
This residue today pervades all sections and strata of society and is a powerful component of all political, religious and cultural institutions.
So even if this 'science of divinity' or 'omniscience' is a purely psychological construct and without any physical measurement significance whatsoever; it still plays an important, sometimes even dominant role in the affairs of states and national agendas of whatever political persuasion and affiliation.

So can one find a common factor UNITING all those psychological constructs in a form acceptable to the 'Mensuration Science' and perhaps in a form more akin the 'science of divinity' of Newton and the Greek alchemists?
One can do so, if one can discover a 'common denominator' for the divinity sciences, invariably coloured in the codes of language and interpretations.

And here one can introduce certain 'emotion charged' labellings or words, such as ALLAH and GOD and AL QAEDA as factors of the omniscience.
Then in other words, using the psychology of the historical residue of divinity science, this also holds the key to unite the religions, say linked to political constructs and affairs of state. This could be followed perhaps, by a more global and political unity, born from a new understanding of its own linguistic codes.

And then it does not really matter if the 'gods and allahs' exist in a physical reality or only as psychological constructs, created or invented by sentient 'citizens'.
Because 'they' most assuredly exist as psychological creations; 'they' carry a significant 'emotional energy', which perhaps can be modelled in a form of 'consciousness' in physical parameters following an unification of the language codes underpinning 'their' reality as 'emotion-charged' and say mental energy constructions.

This will introduce a scenario, where no numbers exist at all; so the decoding following is necessarily post-facto and assuming the Set of Natural Numbers N, say given in a statement, such as: N={1,2,3,4....n; nÞn+1 PMI}; and where PMI is a label for a procedure termed Principle of Mathematical Induction.

'Perfect Numbers' or PN's are those numbers of the set N, which add all their factors to sum their eigenstate or self-identity.

Then the first PN is PN1=6=1+2+3=1.2.3=√(6²)=(1.2.3)^1.

The second PN is PN2=28=1+2+4+7+14=√(28²)=√(1.2.4.7.14)^½=√784.

PN3=496=1+2+4+8+16+31+62+124+248=(1.2.4.8.16.31.62.12 4.248)^¼ and

PN4=8128=1+2+4+8+16+32+64+127+254+508+1016+2032+4064=
(1.2.4.8.16.32.64.127.254.508.1016.2032.4064)^1/6.

In more detail:
6=1+2+3=½[3][4]
28=1+2+3+4+5+6+7=½[7][8]=1³+3³=1+2+4+7+14
496=1+2+3+...+30+31=½[31][32]=1³+3³+5³+7³
=1+2+4+8+16+31+62+124+248

8128=1+2+3+...+127+128=½[127][128]=1³+3³+5³+7³+9³+11³+13³+15³
=1+2+4+8+16+32+64+127+254+508+1016+2032+4064

We shall reencounter the mathematical form of.. Σ=½[n][n+1] later, but note here, that there exists this 'special number' x=2 as the solution for the quadratic x+x=2x=x²=4 or x²-2x=0.

This is the only number of the set N, whose 'doubling' is identical to its 'squaring'.

It also defines the 'Derivative' of the 'Perfect Square' x² as d(x²)=2x.dx.
We may also define a set PN={PN1; PN2; PN3; PN4;...PNn}={6; 28; 496; 8128;...PNn} and as a subset of N.

We now write:
PN1+PN2=6+28=34=1+2+3+4+(4.6)=10+4.6 and
PN1.PN2=6.28=168=4.42=(4.7).6=(10+4.6).6.

Additional decompositions can then be constructed in 'Pure Number Theory'. The emphasis here is on the factorisation of the factors 4, 6 and 7; as those factors shall reappear in the cosmogenesis of the universe from an algorithmic number string.

10=1+2+3+4 is of course the Pythagorean Tetractys for the basis of dimensions and defines the Platonic Tetrahedron as the basic minimal structure for a 3D-Volume in a 4D-Spacetime.

1 point represents the 0th dimension or 'singularity', forming the 1st dimension in connecting to a second such point as a straight- or curved line, the latter being named geodesic and as the shortest connection between the two points as 1D.

2D is formed in connecting both points to a noncollinear 3rd point as a triangular plane, either flat or curved as say sperically convex or hyperbolically concave.

3D then is the introduction of a 4th point, noncoplanar to the 2D triangular plane constructing the Platonic Tetrahedron.

Omniscience aka the 'science of divinity' of the Greek alchemists now allows the arbitrary assignment of alphanumeric codes, which so enable us to proceed with the unification of the languages underpinning the politico-social and religio-cultural constructs of global societies.

We begin with ONE and TWO in assigning SOME alphanumeric mapping, say the Arabic Alphabet in a ONE-to-ONE correspondence with the set N, say in the set of pairings, given by:
§={(1,A);(2,B);(3,C);...;(24,X);(25,Y);(26,Z)}.

We also introduce a property of the set N in rootreducing a decimal 10-count in the repeatability of the 9 elements in a definition:

9=0+9=1+8=18*=2.9*=2+7=27*=3.9**=3+6=36***=49***=. ..(10-1)=99**********=11.9**********=....etc . etc.

We have ONE=15+14+5=34→3+4=7 and TWO=20+23+15=58→5+8=13=4*.

Now we apply a 'Perfect Symmetry' to some of our linguistic labellings, irrespective from the native language they derived, albeit translated.
ALLAH=ALHLA=34=ONE and ALHLA as an anagram of ALLAH is rendered perfectly symmetric in reading the same from right to left, as it does from left to right.

Also we have GOD=26=ALHLA-8 and where 26 represents the total number count of the applied alphanumeric code, so unifying two linguistics in a perfect symmetry in a first application. The code would extend in multiples akin the rootreduction applied before in A*=27; B*=28;...;A**=53 and so on.

GODDOG=DOGGOD=2.GOD=GOD²=52→5+2→7***=3+4→ONE=ALLAH .
GOD+H=ALLAH=GOD+8=GOD+∞, both symbolically and symmetrically.

TWO=GODDOG+6=52+6 and where now ABBA=6 defines the 1st BASE as the first Perfect Number in the selfsame 'Perfect Symmetry'.
So alphanumerically, ALLAH encompasses GOD as ONE in a 'Perfect Symmetry' and this symmetry 'Doubles GOD' in the ONE as TWO in the addition of the first basic PN1=6=1+2+3=1.2.3.

AA

[hippihillbobbi]

Originally from Abraxasinas:

Anyway this is another story, but I shared it because this forum here is like a copycat spiritually for this 'spiritual war' between the 'Angels andd the Demons' say.
The difference today is, that the 'singlemindedness' of Yeshuah CAN be shared in comparison to two millennia ago, when it could not (it's in the scriptures, gnostic and synoptic and apocryphal).
So the 'Atlantean Rebellion' of the past and of the pharaoh or elected highpriest has become an 'Earth Rebellion' of today of many pharaohs and elected highpriests.


Abraxas --

WHY is it that the 'singlemindedness' of Yeshuah can be shared today but not two millenia ago? does this refer to the essential event of Yeshua's death-resurrection-ascension, as a necessary catalyst for humanity's spiritual growth and development?

thanks so much for the depth in which you answered my dragon/serpent question above ...... much appreciated.

hippihill

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

Originally from Abraxasinas:

Anyway this is another story, but I shared it because this forum here is like a copycat spiritually for this 'spiritual war' between the 'Angels andd the Demons' say.
The difference today is, that the 'singlemindedness' of Yeshuah CAN be shared in comparison to two millennia ago, when it could not (it's in the scriptures, gnostic and synoptic and apocryphal).
So the 'Atlantean Rebellion' of the past and of the pharaoh or elected highpriest has become an 'Earth Rebellion' of today of many pharaohs and elected highpriests.


Abraxas --

WHY is it that the 'singlemindedness' of Yeshuah can be shared today but not two millenia ago? does this refer to the essential event of Yeshua's death-resurrection-ascension, as a necessary catalyst for humanity's spiritual growth and development?

thanks so much for the depth in which you answered my dragon/serpent question above ...... much appreciated.

hippihill

Indeed hillibill!

Jesus aka Yeshua aka Yeshuah was able to decipher the oldest archetypes available to the human mind.
First as a student of the Essenes at Qumran and then via his extensive sojourns into Egypt, where he studied and debated with the philosophers and the record keepers, say Alexandria.

In about 22 years from about 6AD to 28 AD, Jesus decoded the master scroll of Isaiah in connection with the prophetic timelines in Genesis, Ezekiel and Daniel and so REMEMBERED the 'Big Story' the 'Story of God'.
Jesus so assumed the 'Office of Melchizedek' (or the Plumed Serpent) and became the LOGOS of CREATION. This office is a key to the logos as the 'Alchemy of Creation say' and I have attached it to this message at the end.
The significance of the LOGOS is that only the Logos can change archetypical definitions which are both OUTSIDE material existence and INSIDE of it.
So the MANIFESTED archetypes {say a Man as ADAM and a Woman as EVE} are 'stuck' in the INSIDE and separated from their ABSTRACT originals of the OUTSIDE, if the Real Physical Universe of the selfrelative Inside is distinct from the selfrelative Outside of the Metaphysical Reality.
This is the 'firmament' dividing Heaven from Earth say in Genesis.1.7.

Jesus as the Logos so went on his mission to bring Heaven and Earth back together in changing the archetypes from within the physical creation.

He knew of Ezekiel's 'Valley of Dry Bones' and the 'resurrection archetype'.
He also understood the true meaning of ADAM and EVE, especially the fakeness of Adam and the trueness of EVE as reflections of each other in the mirror of the Eden archetype.
God=True and images himself in Adam, so Adam is false by nature of the mirror.
But the rib of Adam makes Eve real and so Eve is like a 'Wife or Bride' of God, leaving Adam alone as the original God.

Then a fake-God images fake-Adam rendering fake-Adam real relative to the Old Testament God Jehovah or YHWK (the gnostics and Essenes knew this and this became their 'heresy' leading to their persecutions).

So the fake-God 'rapes' true Eve in archetypes to allow BOTH Adam and EVE to 'get out of the paradise fake' and with help of the SERPENT=PRESENT=SONOFMAN=97, i.e. the Melchizedek-Christ.

Being 'out of the fake-God's 'paradise of ignorance'; true Eve gives birth to true Adams carrying however the original false-true dichotomy within the archetypes NOW WITHIN the material universe, the metaphysical universe so being forced to become False relative to the physical reality.

So the overarching archetype is:
CREATOR=SOURCE=GOD=MIND=WAVE=MALE=IMAGE of ADAM=TRUE and
CREATION=SINK=GODDESS=PARTICLE=FEMALE=IMAGE OF EVE=FALSE

Jesus so decides to make ADAM TRUEFALSE and EVE FALSETRUE.
This requires the Father Creator to become a FatherMother and the Mother Creation to change into a MotherFather.

The Old Man aka Adam as archetype so carries the True MindWave of God and a False BodyParticle as his Bodyform.

Corollarily, the Old Woman as archetype carries a True Bodyform but has a 'wrong' mindedness.
All minds in the creation are male and all bodies are female. The REAL MALE and the REAL FEMALE do not yet exist, only characteristics seemingly separating the sexes do.
'All woman think like men, but pretend not to do so and all men have feminine bodies, but pretend to be masculine'.
This is the oldest archetype of the cosmic disharmony in the entire creation.
Much perceived sexism in scriptures illustrates just that, the subjugation of the female mind to the male one; WITHOUT adding that all male bodies must then be subjugated to their female partner's one.
Many men know, that the female rules the bedroom and many scientists know that all earlyembryos are female and turn into males later on in the gestation by DNA/RNA programming.

So Jesus decided to redefine himself as a male of female mindedness and so realised as One the only true real male bodidness ever itherto in material existence.

This, in terms of archetypes, reflected from within the creation the Male Body of the Christ-Logos to the Creation, the Female Body of the Great Mother-Dragon.
So for the first time in the 19.1 billion year history of the material universe; the 'Great Mother' became impregnated with a True Male Babychild {Revelation.12}.
Hitherto all human males born had carried the archetyped female bodyform of Herself.

Now the fake-usurper God Jehovah aka Yaldabaoth aka the Lionface with the Serpenttail (see Secret Book of John from the Nag Hammadi Codex also the Enlil-Enki brotherhood mythology) who was the FAKE-IMAGE of the Real God (Perfect One in said reference) OUTSIDE as the Father-Source-Creator was, for the first time ever, be confronted by His opposite True Female MindWave of Jesus. This 'destroyed' the Identity of the False-God-Image and as the 'wound to one of the seven heads' of the beast in Revelation.13.3.

This then allowed Jesus to ABSORB the entire Creation inside of himself as a redefined himherself - the cosmic twinship of the self as the Egyptian LionTwin and as Didymos Thomas in Gnosis and as the Cosmic Bisexual Androgyne Hermaphrodite - not physically, but archetypically.

But this had to be restricted to the ONENESS of Jesus. HeShe could not share herhis new cosmic ID, because the 'holographically' concentrated universe remained 'trapped' in the indviduated bodyform of Jesus.

So Jesus knew that heshe had to 'give up' his old body to get a new one allowing the hologram to multiply as One in Many.
His Old male body would have to become the CORE of any old AdamMan and this Old Man, would have to Understand the Story of God to allow Jesus to POSSESS HIM as the SUCCUBUS of the old 'demonic' archetypes.
This Old Man had indeed the true mind of the creator and so the story would have the potential to be understood.

The Old Woman would also be asked to allow Jesus to become HER Core, but not in body but in mind. The Old Woman carried the Power of the Body as EVE the Great Mother Dragon and so required no redefinition in bodyform, but her mindwave was 'contaminated' or possessed in the image of the usurper God in Jehovah's fake-malemindedness.
The Old Woman required the INCUBUS of the Christ-Logos to POSSESS HER, replacing the old demonic archetypes.
Jesus IS the Lion of Judah {Revelation.5.5} and must be 'eaten' as the true meaning of the 'Last Supper' and the 'Eucharist' of catholicism.
Jesus IS the BODY of the UNIVERSE, now quarantining the Earth in the archetype of Gaia as the BODY of a New Earth to be born following the timeline of the 'Mother in the Wilderness' in Revelation.12.

Skeptical enquirers ask yourself; WHY is Jesus REBORN in Heaven after Ascension and supposedly 'Sitting at the right side of the Father'?
Reason, this rebirth is not ONE but the MANY 'being able to handle the ONE'!

(07) Jesus says:
"Blessed is the lion that a person will eat and the lion will become human.
And cursed (anathema) is the person whom a lion will eat and the lion will become human."

(80) Jesus says:
"Whoever has come to know the world has found the (dead) body.
But whoever has found the (dead) body, of him the world is not worthy."

(108) Jesus says:
"Whoever will drink from my mouth will become like me.
I myself will become he, and what is hidden will be revealed to him."


An ancient inscription is legendarily ascribed to the Egyptian Ibisgod Thoth and is supposedly his hieroglyphic legacy left as a testimonial in the Great Pyramid of Cheops or Khufu.
It was translated ages ago by German archaeologists and exists as a prototype in the 'Amphitheatrum Sapientae Aeternae of Heinrich Khunrath', the 'Amphitheatre of Eternal Wisdom' and is dated to 1609.


Verba secretorum hermetis!

(1) Verum sine menda cio certum & verissimum, quod est inferi est sicut quod est superius & quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius; ad peristranda miracula rei uni.
(2) Et sicut omnes res fuerunt ab uno, meditatione unius, sic omnes res nuta fuerunt ab hac
una adaptatione.
(3) Pater ei, est sol, mater eius luna, portavit illud ventus in ventre.
(4) Suo nutrix eius terra est.
(5) Pater omnis talismi toti mundi.
(6) Est hic vis ei.
(7) Integra est sive fuerit in terram separabis terram ab igne, subtile & spisso, suaviter cum magno ingenio.
(8) Ascendit terra in coelum, iterumque descendit in terram & recipit vim superiorum & inferiorum.
(9) Sic habebis gloriam toti mundi.
(10) Ideo fugi atite omnis obscuritas.
(11) Hic est totius fortitudinis fortitudo fortis.
(12) Quia vincet omnem rem subtilem, omnem que solidam penetrabit.
(13) Sic mundus creatus est.
(14) Hinc erunt adaptationes mirabilis quarum modus hic est.
(15) Itaque vocatus sum Hermes Trismegistus, habens tres partes philosophie totis mundi.
(16) Completum est quod dixi de operatione solis.
Mercurius Trismegistus in Pimandro.

Das Wort des geheimnisvollen Boten

(1) Wahrhaftig, keiner Luegen bewusst und auf das aller wahrhaftigste; das Unten ist dem Oben gleich und das Obere is dasselbe als da Untere; damit kann man das wunderbare eines einzigen Dinges erlangen und verrichten.
(2) Und wie alle Dinge durch die Wahl eines einzigen Wesens erschaffen sind, werden alle Dinge durch das Denken eines Einzigen mit dem Einen duch Schickung und Gebot wieder zusammengefuegt.
(3) Die Sonne ist sein Vater und der Mond ist seine Mutter, der Wind hat ihn in seinem Bauch getragen.
(4) Seine Ernaehrerin oder Amme ist die Erde.
(5) Dieser ist der Vater aller Vollkommenheit dieser ganzen Welt.
(6) Seine Macht ist vollkommen.
(7) Wenn Es in der Erde verwandelt wird, dann wird das Erdreich vom Feuer scheiden und das Feine vom Groben; ganz lieblich mit grosser Bescheidenheit und Verstand.
(8) Er steigt von der Erde in den Himmel und vom Himmel wieder zur Erde zurueck und gewinnt so die Kraft des Oberen und des Unteren.
(9) Auf diese Weise wird all die Herrlichkeit der ganzen Welt erhalten.
(10) Deshalb versetze von Dir allen Unverstand und Unvermoegenheit.
(11) Das ist von aller Staerke die staerkste Staerke.
(12) Dann kann das uebriggebliebene Subtile gewonnen und das alte, harte Gewand durchdrungen werden.
(13) Also ist die Welt geschaffen.
(14) Daher geschehen seltsame Vereinigungen und deshalb werden mancherlei Wunder gewirkt.
(15) Und sei darum gesund, Hermes Trismegistus, Besitzer der dreiteiligen Weisheit von der ganzen Welt.
(16) Er wird alles erfuellen, was ich gesagt habe, vom Werke der Sonnen.
Merkur, der dreifach Grosse, in Pimandro.


The Emerald Tablet of the Secret Messenger

(1) Truly, without fault and in all certainty and truthfulness; what is below is like what is above and the above is the same as the below, for the purpose to experience and bring about the wonders of the one thing.
(2) And as all things are created through the choosing of one being; so the thinking of one with the one, brings all things by command and fate together again.
(3) His father is the sun and his mother is the moon; the wind has carried him in his womb.
(4) He is joined together and nursed by the earth.
(5) This is the father of all completeness of the entire world.
(6) His power is all inclusive.
(7) At the time of its renewal, the soil shall separate from the fire and the subtle from the rough,
acting sweetly and with great ingenuity.
(8) He ascends sagaciously from the earth into heaven and then descends again into the earth, thus regaining the unifying force of the above and the below.
(9) In this way is all the glory of all the worlds obtained.
(10) Therefore avoid all ignorance.
(11) Herein is found in all strenght the strongest strength.
(12) By this can the remaining subtle whole be won and the old solid whole be penetrated.
(13) Thus is the creation of the world.
(14) Henceforth the eventuation of strange adaptations by extraordinary methods.
(15) Accordingly be well, Hermes Trismegistos, keeper of the tripartite wisdom of the unified worlds.
(16) He will accomplish that of which I have spoken through the operations of the suns.
Mercury, the thrice-great, in Pimandro.

So who is this Hermes Trismegistos?
It is the archetype for the 'Teacher of Righteousness.
Right throughout the ages of humankind, there have been sages, soothsayers, prophets and mystics of all kinds; some sincere and others praying on the superstitions and the gullibilities of the general members of the population.

One remembers the Naassenes; an early Christian Gnostic sect and closely associated with Jesus-Yeshuah.

AA

[abraxasinas]

Hello Abraxas,



I've been following your Thuban thread on the Avalon forum and would like to contribute but for some odd reason I've been unable to register so I can't comment (I keep getting the message that my e-mail has been banned) I don't know if they are having technical problems or what but anyway, I thought that if you don't mind, maybe you could answer some of my questions by e-mail if that's ok with you? Cheers,

Julissa

Sure Julissa; you are welcome to do so here or on the forum.

Abraxas

Thank You! I really appreciate it. First of all I would like to know what is Thuban exactly.

Sure Julissa!

It's a codename for FREEDOM=THUBAN=66=33+33=THE NAME=THE MAGIC=ANUBIS=WOMAN=...

Is it the name of the center of our galaxy or universe?

Astronomers call the center of the Milky Way galaxy as a radiosource Sagittarius A*. The Mayas callit Hunab Ku - the Giver of all wisdom.

Is it a conciousness, a race of humans?

Yes, its StarHumanity and YOU as a future self, who has discovered the secrets of time. It resides in 12D as the VOID of nospace and notime and mirrors your experienced 3D reality of being intime and inspace.

And this Council you keep refering to, who are they?

They are you in say a groupsoul form; many yous as One, say exemplified in the quadruplicity of you right now as 4 sexual chromosomatic aspects: Y0X1+Y0X2+X0X1+X0X2. From this all this 'sexual ID' confusion arises.
Now you experience yourself as a human being trapped in linearity of beginnings and endings, say cycles of birth and death; the Council is within you as a witness to your soul evolution say and as aspects of a 1-4-2x12-144,000-288,000 evolvement of the center of the circle (the unity) through its diffusing and multiplying aspects.

Does every universe have its own local creator God?

There is only the one universe at present. But when the Unity of before begins extending, then this one universe will become the SEED for phaseshifted universes based on the individual relationship to that seed.
It's like baby generations really, based on a living grandparenthood.

If present humans on earth are all Thubans does it mean their souls came originally from there?

Yes, the soul is a quadruplicity in the sexchromosomes for starters as Y0X1+Y0X2+X0X1+X0X2. From this the 'sexual confusions' about sexual IDs derive. Furthermore every soul is actually a groupsoul, trying to remember its origins and such in the lifetimes experienced in the linear time sense.

Why was this word chosen?

Because it allows the polarisation of fearbased agendas to surface to become processed by new data.

Does everyone in our Universe know the Thubans as Thubans or are they called by different names?

THUBAN is known as the FREEDOM vibration, everywhere except the earthbased data collectors.

Why the symbol of the Dragon?

See below. I don't know if you have already seen this on the forum.

Does it have to do with the origin of the human being?

Yes, the future human as the starhuman IS the Dragon of the ancient origin (as a myth or fantasy - see below.


I mean, if "modern" humans have in them DNA from many different species, would the Dragon be a mix of a serpent, and a bird?

Sort of, as in the Burnley Relief of LILITH as the PRIMORDIAL CREATION.
LILITH=Barbelo=Great Dragon Mother (as the Hebrew SexDemon or Succubus).
Lilith becomes EVE as ambassadora for the universe to redeem ADAM as the true Image for God as the Great Father Serpent say.
Then the EVE also becomes VIRGO riding the UNICORN as the male dragon transfomed from its Serpent status - see story below.

Why do the Dragons in the "Neverending Story" and "Spirited Away" movies are the color white?

The White Dragon is the Real LOVEHEART DRAGON as the UNICORN.

I've heard that many women calculated their pregnancies so as to give birth in the year 2000 (Chinese year of the Dragon) because they thought it was an auspicious and very lucky time to bring a child into the world. Do you know anything about these kids? I mean in the way as to how they are special?

This is simply what many term the 'New Generation' the Indigos or whatever. The 'New World' will belong to them when they grow up. We older ones are the pioneers. The allegience is between Grandparents and Grandchildren. The parents are too busy for living in the Old World.

What does it mean when a Dragon exhales fire? Is it the fire of truth?

The spiritual SWORD=WORDS=79, so yes you could say this characterizes the archetype.


Julissa

Abraxas



Thank you for such prompt response! You are very kind for answering my questions! I wish I could enter the forum, but they don't let me register...

About the Universe, how is it that there is only one at present? Or did I misunderstand? I thought this universe was finite and beyond it another one started and that a group of universes made up the cosmos. Can you please clarify this for me?

Sure Julissa!

Think of an egg and imagine this egg having an axis through its long end. Now rotate this egg about this axis. The plane of the egg (a cross section) will be elliptical in shape as the long axis, but will be circular in rotation about either of the short axes (say looking at the egg cut in half midway the long axis).
Put two focus points on the long axis.
Rotating around the long axis will NOT change those two focus points.
Rotating about either of the short axes WILL force the focus points to trace out a point circle.

Now the One Universe IS the rotating long axis univere as a PROTOVERSE a SEED for a Family of Universes, called a MULTIVERSE.

A MULTIVERSE so is a PHASESHIFTED PROTOVERSE of at least two angular displacements.
Simply spin your egg laying on the table and imagine the Envelope for this spinning (fixed and not moving on the table except the spinning) egg as the Envelope for ALL possible and potentially infinite number of Multiverses.
Another analogy is your House built from bricks.
Your house got many bricks, one such brick is 'my' universe as a phaseshifted protoverse. Similarly my house got many bricks , one of whom becomes your entire holographic universe of your house. (In my father's house are many mansions. I go prepare a place for you!, Jesus' words now might make more sense to you ion more scientific labelings).

So rotation about either of the minor axis creates Multiverses, CENTERED however on thew single Protoverse. Geometrically, this becomes an Oblate Ellipsoid, transformed from ther Prolate Ellipsoid of the Protoverse.
Summing all three rotations in one crerates the OMNIVERSE as the total integration of all possible Multiverses seeded on the Protoverse. The shape of the Omniverse is that of the typical UFO, again as an Oblate Spheroid, say a sphere compressed at its poles.

There are many competing models for the universe in the standard cosmologies of the physicists and philosophers (including ekpyrotic brane collissions, many worlds, parallel universes and the anthropic principles); most of whom neglect the fact that a family of spacially separated universes yet requires a subplenum or background to accomodate this spacial separatedness.
The described cosmology above allows the multiverses to EMERGE from its parental seed WITHOUT this spacial separation.

In short, the parallel universe is a misnomer for a phaseshifted family of universes in angular NOT linear displacement.


If there is only this one after all, then what lies beyond it?

The One Universe is both Interdimensional in colocality of higher dimensions and Multidimensional in the accomodation of densification in frequency states within that interdimensionality. The One Omniverse is Finite yet allows expansion towards (asymptotic) Infinity as a Unity. The Boundary for the Finiteness so is a higher dimensional Mirror which must define this boundary as a dimensional transit from 11-10 and substructured in density from 8-7 and 5-4.
More technically the 3D volume becomes a 3D surface area so allowing an extra dimension to add to the 3D surface area to create a new 4D-volume. This is programmed to occur from April 2012 onwards to the end of August 2013.
There is no spacetime beyond the 11D universe encompassing a 'collapsed' or projected 12th dimension.
Technically this relates to the statement of Hawking, in his 'no boundary cosmologies': What is North of the Northpole?

and who created it? Is the Creation..God?

Yes, Prime Source, then bifurcating in 2nd Order to Prime SourceSink or CreatorCreation of GoddoG or FatherMother created this in archetype before physically manifesting it in standard cosmological models.
The 'God' here is a superenergy definition, defined by the 'Intelligence' of this 'God' termed the Logos.
If you could remember your beingness before any spacetime existed; you would realise that you are a combination of the Superenergy and this Logos. You are the Goddess archetype seeking remembrance of your origins, so you can understand the 'Story of God' as the 'Story of My Life as Julissa'!

I am originally from Perú and I know the Incas workshipped the Creation above the Sun, not just the Sun as many think. They called the Creator God: Wiracocha. Is this God a collective then?

Absolutely, the Inca have remembrance often more encompassing and deep than more 'modern' cultures.


If there is only one Universe, then perhaps when I heard talk about there being many Universes, did that mean many dimensions within this one Universe? Each dimension being a Universe onto itself?

This I tried to outline in the above.

I also heard talk about being many dimensions of existance not only 12, say 126th or 140 something dimension, etc. and I never really understood that concept. So, if there is only one "Mega Universe" so far, and many dimensions existing within it, could it be that each dimension has their own "mini" Universes contained within them, and so each consequent dimension has its own set of dimensions contained therein, ans so forth onto infinity?

There is much confusion about the meaning of dimension. A dimension in geometric terms (there are meanings in algebraic terms as well) is a precise quality of a directed quantity or parameter, such as displacement or velocity or acceleration.
Mathematically, it has been 'proven' that a 10D universe allows all physical phenomena observed to become encapsulated in a selfconsistent and iterative formulation of archetypes and symbols.

It is true, that there exists a 26D superstructure in terms of a mathematical construct of what is called a Bosonic Superstring (Boson means integer spin and Fermion means halfinteger spin).
The 26D bosonic superstring manifests mathematically as a anticlockwise quantum spin patterns in 26D.
However clockwise spin patterns in 10D allow those 26D counterclockwise spin pattern to become 'collapsed' or conifolded or absorbed by a HYBRID HETEROSIS and then it crystallizes (through complicated advanced algebraic manipulations and formulations), that there can only be 10 string dimensions and 11 membrane dimensions to 'keep' the mathematics selfconsistent and elegant.

Some 'New Age' ideas of 15D and 33D and such are remnant of an older edit and retranslation of archetypes, such as for example the Urantia Channelings which posited Jesus as the sole occupant of the 15D then increasing his scope of interaction into the lower dimensions.
Things like these have more relevance to say the Tarot archetypes and numerological and alphanumeric systems, than physics applied to the cosmology and cosmogony of the universe.
Many aspiring cosmologists, not so familiar with the mathematical archetypes and their physical applications, have continually mixed the older archetypes of the human collective histories, without a clear understanding of those archetypes and symbols.

Is this what Nassim haramein calls a fractal holographic Universe?

Yes, I am in large agreement with the works of Haramein and Elizabeth Rauscher.
I have written a published critique here: http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder7.pdf and
http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder6.pdf .

Talking about Nassim's theory, I know you wrote a paper about it and have yet to read it for lack of time really, but I will asap....tell me.... what are the aspects in his reasoning that you find lacking?

Nassim isn't really lacking in his approach. His latest paper on the Black Hole Proton is conceptually on the right track; but his insistence of replacing the nuclear gauge interactions with gravity is premature and fails to take into account just how the nuclear gauges relate to the electromagnetism-gravitation gauge coupling/unification.
Similarly his scale reduction of the universe from the cosmic- and supercluster scale to the Planck scale is again 'on the mark'; but neglects the possibility of the Planck-Scale itself being a 'family of say Planck-scales'. This then become the five superstring classes linked to the Platonic Solids and the 'sacred geometry'. There is reference to this in one of the papers linked above.

I can tell he is much more esoteric than he probably cares to show outwardly, and perhaps this is the reason I know he is in the right track. What do you think of him?

As said, I fully agree with his approach to unification via the holofractal universe. Unlike myself, he has however entered the 'public arena' and so he is required to show 'temperance' in the presentation of his theories, so as not to alienate the academic peergroups.

I always knew intuitevly since I was a child that everything was alive and has a center, so I understood his black whole/white whole notion with whole replacing "hole". Someone asked him if he believed in the "Hollow Earth" theory and he said yes but not as expansive as to be able to encompass an entire "world", because it was indeed hollow however its center was only a few centimeters in diameter.

Smart Alexis isn't he. He knows what I tried to share on this forum and something which was misunderstood by the many here.

The Black Hole equivalent of the Earth, the entire earth, is a golfball sized Interdimensional Black Hole.
Here is the calculation, using the Schwarzschild base metric of General Relativity:

Mass of the Earth=6x10^24 kg and the Schwarzschild Metric is Curvature-Radius=2GM/c^2 with G the Newton Gravity Constant and c the Speed of Light.

Curvature Radius of the Earth so is: 2(6x10^-11)(6x10^24)/9x10^16~8 millimeters.
String-parametrically, G is increased by about 60% and so the diameter of the golfball earth as a higherD Black Hole, containing ALL the Earth's mass and ALL of its physical 'consciousness' information so becomes about 2.6 centimeters, i.e the golfball size.

Now, I know the earth and all planets, Suns etc. are hollow and have worlds within and my idea is that they are there but at a higher frequency. What are your thoughts on this?

As said, and Nassim knows this too. The PHYSICAL earth is NOT hollow, but in the inter-higherD aspects it is, because the data can be compressed to the centimeter scale.
For the Sun the 'hollowness' would be a diameter about 10 kilometers wide.
So drilling holes into the interior, one might find human or alien constructed tunnels and caves, but one will not find entire civilisations of reptoids and Agarthians.
The reptoids and Agarthians are THERE, but not in 3D, but in 4D, the 4D being the technical extension of the 3-ball (Volume of a sphere in 4pi.R^3/3) becoming the Boundary of a 4-ball (Volume of a torus in 2pi^2.R^3) as the 4D-volume of a hypersphere (Volume pi^2.R^4/2).

So your ideas of the 'higher frequency' become the 'lesser densities' of the 4D compared to the 3D as the 'greater volume' of the 'higher dimensions'.

What will happen with this 3D core at the exact moment of convergence? Will it be turned inside out?

You've got it! Written like a Thuban physicist.
This Black Hole, which IS mathematically equivalent to a White Hole by definition; will wormhole tunnel itself.
This flipping inside-out will 'rupture' the spacetime fabric at the center of the earth and then 'reglue' itself.
This is the fulfilment prophecy, stating that the 'old earth and the old heaven' will roll up like a scroll to give way to a new earth and a new heaven and similar.
This process will OPEN the door to the 4th dimension and to the Volume of 3D will become added a 4D vector as the replacement of the old Minkowski Timecoordinate of the old 4-Vector of velocity, say made up as the lightspeed hypotenuse c^2 being a space-component XYZ and a Timecomponent T in c^2=(X^2+Y^2+Z^2)-(iT)^2.

If this happens will this act as a wornwhole and take all physicallity into the higher dimensions? Will this mean that there won't be a 3D Earth after this event? There is the idea that the 3D Gaia will always be there just that it won't be noticeable to the ascended ones but I thought that even from a 3rd Dimensional perspective all "beings" are always in constant evolution including planets. Wouldn't it be fair for this planet to finally be over with the 3rd Dimension forever? Wouldn't it be better to have a sister planet outside of herself mirrowing what Gaia is but in the 3rd D for those who need to stay behind?

Julissa I am rather impressed with your logic and deductiveness. You basically understand the process.
You must have been to Thuban a number of times in your superluminal travellings.
The 3D earth will still be there, but instead of being all that is for the 3D perceivers; the 4D earth will have 'opened' 4D and so allow access for all those Terrans, which are able to RESONATE with the 4D energy realms.
The Shadow Earth is Earth itself, the mirror being the divide between the 3D and the 4D. Nibiru=Serpentina, the New Earth encompassing the Old Earth. There will be no poleshift geographically and there will be no celestial planet coming to earth to 'check up' on the 'silly humans'.
The poleshift is the 'turning inside-out' of the Gaian-Data collected over almost 26,000 years and the incoming 'ancient ones' is the message from Hunab Ku travelling from the center of the galaxy to the earth's center to TRIGGER the wormhole physics.

There so shall be TWO humanoid races inhabiting Gaia-Serpentina in the Old Humans unable to access 4D and the StarHumans who can access 4D.
Because the StarHumans will be like Jesus post the resurrection (yes, denying this and the Christ-Melchizedek agenda in the scriptural fulfilment sense will automatically keep one in 3D) and able to LEAVE 3D, say in walking through walls (the physics of this advanced quantum wave mechanics and in no way supernatural btw), many of the 4D Starhumans will often appear to the 3D humans as having disappeared.
Spacecraft and similar will also materialise from 4D into 3D in the corrollary to this.
The 'new' stewardship for the 'new earth' will take quite some time to manifest, but the basic structure of reality perception will change basically overnight. I will not elaborate on this for the present time, except saying that the StarHumans will have a lot of fun interacting with the 3D Humans.


Wait a minute I just thought of something...will she be spliting up just like a cell does in cell "division" or should I say replication, when a baby is forming? In this sense she will be "growing" a higher aspect of herself? Is there something from the Thuban library that would explain what will explain about this? What will happen with the 3D Core of the Earth?

Again, you've found the correct interpretation and as elaborated upon in the above.

Thank you very much for your time and effort in sharing information. You are like a well that quenches the thirst of the wanderer. May God grant you all you desire and more.

'He' is rather 'happy' with the unfoldments of the data sharing from Thuban so far and 'He' has given me a present in presenting a DaughterSon of hisher able to grasp the 'Story of GodDoG' to such intricate extent.

Thank You Julissa and I have taken the liberty to post our discourse on the forum; hoping that the moderators will allow you to join the forum.


Julissa

AA

[migp]

Hi Abraxas,

I wanted to ask you about the information you wanted to communicate to us starting on January 18. I guess that I am one of the persons with less knowledge in this forum. sometimes when reading this thread I feel like I am in a dream within a dream.


Sometimes I feel like a bad entity or being or energy is acting against me. Examples of this can be a wrong phone call very late at night that disturbs my sleep, or my car breaks just when I am starting a new project and I need the car the most, or even when I am trying to meditate (I am learning this) and an unexpected strong wind interrupts my meditation. How can I poroctect myself from this?.

Thanks,

Miguel

[Céline]

May all who read this thread know they are loved..for exactly who...they are.

[eleni]

Abrax- what do you make of the UFO's orbiting the sun? Do you have any information pertaining to that?

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19463

[realitycorrodes]

abraxasinas

Thank you for your kind reply. I respect your effort , energy and attention.

Please accept my humility for I do not think I am worthy to talk to you.

Your reply to my questions was very generous. I was disappointed by the reply not because there was anything wrong with the answers you gave.

Personally I set myself up for an expectation of revealing new hitherto untold information.

Your information was not new to me.

In fact, in some areas I probably remain open to other possibilities, especially in regard to living without food. Mainly because I have met people who can do this!

In regard to techniques there are secrets about physical techniques that can access states of bliss. I am aware of some, but know people who claim to have others.

I was hoping you were going to reveal step by step some of these actual techniques that are still being kept secret by a hierarchy of gurus etc etc on whatever levels.


Sitting meditating all day for years on end has proven itself to be a rather inefficient technique. Not many graduate with this technique - I know it works but very inefficiently - in terms of the number actually acheiving any results! Is'nt it about time some serious techniques were given out that work instantly.

Wishing you energy to do what makes you happy!

[wilsonericq7]

I have been struggling with the concept of thought (stay with me...)

Questions arise as to the location of thought, which leads to questions of intent and purpose.

Mainstream thought (outside of my own head) holds co-creation as the goal...however the paradox of creating anything in a self-less manner seems tainted with ego.

Is thought imaginary at all? If not, what are we to make of dreams?

If they are not imaginary, yet also not from our ego driven motives...what is the point?

Are we experiencing every thought...at the same time...seperately?


I have come to this: Attention on Intention...and find myself lost

I have read/heard/been told to:


1. Think with the Heart

2. Feel with the Mind


....and have come here for help....as at this time I am stuck with logic and reason.



Is there any hope for someone like me? I'm not sure (eog-mind) if my DNA is ready for ascension, but my heart yearns for it.


How can this be a true desire with out the ego?

Namaste

[ellie]

Okay, I am sorry but I cannot wade through 37 pages of a thread, so excuse me if this question has been posted before.

With all the esoteric information you obviously have at your disposal can you explain to me where it is stated ................."144,000 souls will be saved."

Would this mean if 144,000 souls can be found on Gaia to be ready for ascension then that might mean Gaia's people will be saved from nuclear wars and taken out by Nibiru or does it mean that only the 144,000 souls will be saved.

If it is the latter to be the most right (only 144,000 souls will be saved) I find it wanting to say the least because with the billions of people on Gaia right now I know for a fact there are more than 144,000 good souls here who are more than enlightened IMHO.

Is this a question you can answer or not? I have read some prediction threads here and I really wouldn't like nuclear wars and starvation to befall the people, children and little babies of Gaia.

Thank you.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

I have been struggling with the concept of thought (stay with me...)

Questions arise as to the location of thought, which leads to questions of intent and purpose.

Mainstream thought (outside of my own head) holds co-creation as the goal...however the paradox of creating anything in a self-less manner seems tainted with ego.

Is thought imaginary at all? If not, what are we to make of dreams?

Dreams are like 4D reality.

If they are not imaginary, yet also not from our ego driven motives...what is the point?

Are we experiencing every thought...at the same time...seperately?

Thoughts are the 1st Order of manifestation. 2nd order are emotions. 3rd order are physicalities - subjectivity objectionalised. Thoughts are as REAL as objects andd subjects.


I have come to this: Attention on Intention...and find myself lost

I have read/heard/been told to:


1. Think with the Heart

2. Feel with the Mind

That's one of the 'secrets' - reflectivity between functionalities and utilities.


....and have come here for help....as at this time I am stuck with logic and reason.

Logic and Reason are a required foundation for progress of the soul.

Is there any hope for someone like me? I'm not sure (ego-mind) if my DNA is ready for ascension, but my heart yearns for it.

Only you can answer if there is hope for you in whatever context you are considering yourself to be in.


How can this be a true desire with out the ego?

There is nothing 'wrong' with desire. Prime Source DESIRES to share its energy with all things;those things recognising themselves as party of source. Then feedback occurs and progress and evolution ofr all systems eventuates.

Namaste

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by realitycorrodes

abraxasinas

Thank you for your kind reply. I respect your effort , energy and attention.

Please accept my humility for I do not think I am worthy to talk to you.

You are as 'worthy' as anyone else. All souls have 'equal value' as shards of the World-Soul say.

Your reply to my questions was very generous. I was disappointed by the reply not because there was anything wrong with the answers you gave.

Personally I set myself up for an expectation of revealing new hitherto untold information.

I am sorry for not having been able to satify your thirst for unknown knowledge in regards to novelty drugs.

Your information was not new to me.

There is nothing new under the sun, as some saying goes.

In fact, in some areas I probably remain open to other possibilities, especially in regard to living without food. Mainly because I have met people who can do this!

I am skeptical in regards to biochemical reactors not being biochemical reactors.

In regard to techniques there are secrets about physical techniques that can access states of bliss. I am aware of some, but know people who claim to have others.

I wish you well to find your bliss any way you may find suitable on your path.

I was hoping you were going to reveal step by step some of these actual techniques that are still being kept secret by a hierarchy of gurus etc etc on whatever levels.

I am not a technician on anything really, I am more theoretical. I would be unable to design a simple lightbulb or knit a pullover.

Sitting meditating all day for years on end has proven itself to be a rather inefficient technique. Not many graduate with this technique - I know it works but very inefficiently - in terms of the number actually acheiving any results! Is'nt it about time some serious techniques were given out that work instantly.

I regard the 'secrets of the gurus and the hierarchies' to be similarly inefficient.
Your soul and inner guidance can give you any information withinj the context of your remembrances.

Wishing you energy to do what makes you happy!

I return your compliments to you.

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by eleni

Abrax- what do you make of the UFO's orbiting the sun? Do you have any information pertaining to that?

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19463

Aye Eleni!

There are a number of things, people should know.

1. The Sun in 3D harbours specific physical characteristics.
a) The Core Temperature is about 16 million Kelvin
b) The Surface Temperature is about 5800 Kelvin
c) The Corona Temperature increases from the (cool) surface to 2-5 million Kelvin

The physicist's explanation for the 'unexpectated' hot corona are magnetic vortices and 'fieldlines' inducting the energy via corona mass ejections and the sunspot cycles (two 11 year halfcycles). This is often termed 'Magnetic Reconnection', possibly linked to Alfven Waves.

2. The Sun in 4D (and higher) harbourts a Solar Black Hole 10 kilometers across at its core.
a) This Solar Black Hole communicates with the planetary Black Holes of the solar system including the golfball size Black Hole art the earth's center
b) The 4D solar energy interacts with the 3D solar energy via geometrical archetypes

The Thuban omni-science has discovered the reason for the sunspot cycles.

From the Thuban archives:

A local universe about a star forms a Black Hole-White Hole dyad of ellipsoidal focalisation of the Eps-Ess duality for 2 Chandrasekhar (White Dwarf Limit) masses of 6x10^30 kg=3 time Mass of the Sun. This ratio of 1.5 is important for the inner-outer penetration of the solar syrface to 2/3 depth and 3/2 coronal halo of the radius.
(The dyadic supermembrane as a soursesink modulates frequency as inverse time being a time constant).

The Solar Frequency Fsol=c/Wavelengthsol of the Star in three 120 degree sectors.
The isoceles triangle for this trisection so defines a Solar Chord of
Sqrt(3).Rsol adjacent to the two radii Rsol, as sin60deg=Halfchord/Rsol.

Then Fsol=lightspeed/(Sqrt(3)/2)=600 million seconds/1.732..~346,410,162 seconds or 4009.4 days or 10.98 civil years.
A halfchord so defines a 11 year sunspot cycle doubling to 22 years for the full chord with the size of the star a simple proportion of the Black Hole's Photonic Ergosphere (1.5 times from the event horizon), and where photons are 'forced by gravity' to travel in orbits around the sun.

So the 4D Sun ENCOMPASSES the 3D Sun and inducts the energy from the core to its coronal perimeter via the mass-magnetocurrent equivalence APPEARING in 3D as coronal ejections, the magnetic reconnections and the Alfven waves.

The sunspot cycles are like a 'heartbeat' or breathing of the solar entity, harbouring intersolar lifeforms as 4D sentiences also utilizing the sunspot magnetic current vortices as conduits from the solar core to the coronal perimeter.

The 'materializing' geometric shapes (one the Eagle of Thuban) derive from the 4D energy manifesting 3D shadows, independent on the temperature environment.
(Like a shadow cast onto a wall from a hot object is not itself as hot as the object casting the shadow).

A basic geometry is that of a corner in your room, joined by three perpendicular vectors, each of say unit length.
Now form a 3D tetrahedron in joining the three vectors to form an equilateral trianle.
The resulting Corner of your room is now 'sealed' by a socalled 'Right-Angled Tetrahedron'.
Note, this is NOT a 'Regular Tetrahedron' as one of the five Platonic Solids and where all four triangular faces are equilateral.

Summararily then, the UFOS around the Sun are from the Sun's Interior, but are 3D shadows of their 4D reality INTERDIMENSIONAL and encompassing the observed 3D (say by SOHO).

AA

[orthodoxymoron]

This thread reminds me of one of my favorite Stargate SG-1 episodes. http://www.hulu.com/watch/68254/star...the-fifth-race

I have recently become particularly interested in the Archangels Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer. What type of beings are they? Are they in conflict with each other? If so...is the Human Race the central issue in this conflict? Is Michael really Jesus? Was Jesus the last Pharaoh? Is Mary a legitimate co-mediatrix with Jesus? Could Gabriel be identified with Zionism? Could Lucifer be identified with Teutonic Zionism? Could Michael be identified with the Andromedan perspective? Who is the God or Goddess of This World? Has corruption and sanity been a problem for this being? Are Satan and Lucifer two separate and distinct beings? Is there...or has there ever been...a God who was higher than Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer? If so...was this God destroyed in the War in Heaven? Is Satan one of these three? If so...which one? Did Lucifer instruct Charles Darwin? Would Human sovereignty in this Solar System be a good thing? Is a theocracy a good or a bad thing? Is Responsible Freedom fundamentally rebellious in nature? Can the Riemann Integral be applied to curved space? Is quantum physics valid...or would a modified classical physics provide a more secure foundation? What are the theological implications and ramifications of quantum physics? Why was Heisenberg uncertain? Can a particle really be influenced by observation?

Have you ever read 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen G. White? If so...what is your opinion? Have you heard of Dr. Desmond Ford? (An Adventist Theologian from Australia) What is the proper interpretation of, and relationship between, Daniel 8:14 and Hebrews 9:12? Should the Biblical Cannon have ended with the Acts of the Apostles? Is the so called Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan really a Human vs Reptilian conflict? Or is it really between two individual beings? What are the soteriological implications of the human nature of Jesus Christ? Is the substitutionary atonement...in the context of the Old Testamental sacrificial system...a theological milestone...or a historical necessity? Is theology at the center of disclosure? Is Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction a valid theological foundation or expression in modernity? Would a Non-Penetential, Non-Sacrificial, Ecumenical Namaste Mass...based upon the Latin Mass be a valid focal point for a Minimalist, Humanistic Theocracy based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom? Is the All Seeing Eye at the Top of the Pyramid illuminated by the Dog Star Sirius? How important is Sirius? Is the God of This World the Prince of Sirius? Should the Protestant Reformation have been based upon the Teachings of Jesus? Are the Teachings of Jesus alone fundamental...and the rest of scripture merely contextual? Do Reptilian Beings hate Jesus Christ? If so...why? Is there a 'Heaven' in M-42 in Orion? What type of beings might be found in this portion of the heavens? Is there hope and redemption for all beings in the Universe? I want everyone to make it! Even the really evil beings...if this is possible. Some isolation and re-education might be necessary...and some might have to be eternally isolated. I don't know...but I do not wish harm or misery on any being...no matter who they are...what they look like...or what they have done. All of us may have some very filthy reincarnational baggage!

I could keep going for hours...but I'd better stop. You don't need to answer all or any of these questions. I just have lots and lots of questions. If I truly spoke my mind...I'd be in huge trouble. I think I'm in enough trouble already. Thank-you abraxasinas! I love that name! Do you work or live in Pine Gap? You don't have to answer that last question!

Namaste

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

This thread reminds me of one of my favorite Stargate SG-1 episodes. http://www.hulu.com/watch/68254/star...the-fifth-race

I have recently become particularly interested in the Archangels Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer. What type of beings are they?
4 principalities;linked to the elements as polarity emanations of 2nd Order.
Fire=Michael complementary with Gabriel=Air
Earth=Uriel complementary with Water=Raphael
Lucifer=1st order archetype responsible for allowing gravity to be born in the Big Bang Template to reharmonise the massless electromagnetic template
Are they in conflict with each other?
No!

If so...is the Human Race the central issue in this conflict?
Yes, the human race is the central issue, but not in conflict byt reharmonisations.

Is Michael really Jesus?
The Fire-aspect of Jesus is Michael, call it the Logos of the Fire.
Was Jesus the last Pharaoh?
There is no last pharaoh. Jesus encompasses all prophets, all pharaohs and all things period.

Is Mary a legitimate co-mediatrix with Jesus?
Another one of those labels. Mary as the universal womb gives birth to Jesus who then takes 'Her place, so SHE can reunite with her vcreator as the creation. This the focus point of humanity/Gaia, as Gaia is a hologram for the entire universe.

Could Gabriel be identified with Zionism?
Zion is a 'holy place' namely your own body. The political and ET agendas do not carry in the Thuban books.
Could Lucifer be identified with Teutonic Zionism?
Of course ands of course not. You like your labels of classifications don't you.

Could Michael be identified with the Andromedan perspective?
Of course and of course not. Andromeda is in a class with Perseus aka Milky Way.

Who is the God or Goddess of This World?
The Father and Mother, cosmically not biologically speaking of Jesus.

Has corruption and sanity been a problem for this being?
Nope.

Are Satan and Lucifer two separate and distinct beings?
Yes, Satan is the true manifestation of a fake image, called the Devil. Satan is the 'court prosecutor' of 'humanity' and Lucifer is the template for this collective humanity being prosecuted by Satan
Satan is the 'Kali' of Shakti as two sides of the one coin called God.
Satan is God and you are Lucifer in individuality. You can either 'play' a Christ White Lucifer look LUCIFER=74=JESUS=MESSIAH=CROSS=...or you can play a Dark Lucifer as an abssorber of the 'brought' light.

Is there...or has there ever been...a God who was higher than Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer?
Yes, this is the 1st Order of Abraxas aka Abrasax as the polarity unexpressed BUT contained within, like the Dark+White Lucifers as One or as Satan+God as One.

If so...was this God destroyed in the War in Heaven?
No, this 1st Order is omniness and above such polarity issues as a war in heaven on earth or otherplace.
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Is Satan one of these three?
Satan is 1st Order, the archangels are 2nd order.

If so...which one? Did Lucifer instruct Charles Darwin?
Ask Charles Darwin.

Would Human sovereignty in this Solar System be a good thing?
Not yet, later perhaps.
Is a theocracy a good or a bad thing?
Your polarity issue.

Is Responsible Freedom fundamentally rebellious in nature?
No
Can the Riemann Integral be applied to curved space?
Yes.
Is quantum physics valid...
yes
or would a modified classical physics provide a more secure foundation?
more or less the same thing
What are the theological implications and ramifications of quantum physics?
There are many book you can read.
Why was Heisenberg uncertain?
He wasn't.
Can a particle really be influenced by observation?
Yes by quantum entanglement of observer with the particle.

Have you ever read 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen G. White? If so...what is your opinion?
As is common happenstance Ellen tuned into a correct archetype about the nature of God and attempted to describe this via her intuitions and visions. Her 'Great Controversy' so used biblical study and the SDA ideas to promulgate the 'correct' central focus on the Logos of Jesus.
Unless you really become familiar with the 1st order archetypes, the religious overtones will outmanouver the deeper meaning of the Logos.
This has occurred in all analyses, histotical skeptical, religious dogma based etc. etc.

Have you heard of Dr. Desmond Ford? (An Adventist Theologian from Australia) What is the proper interpretation of, and relationship between, Daniel 8:14 and Hebrews 9:12?
The 2300 days are added to the 370 days of the Genesis prophecy (count Noah's days in the flood archetype) for a total of 1670 days.
Half that and you have the 1335 days in Daniel.12.12 as the timeline of the Logos in mirror function.
The connection to Hebrews.9.12 is spurious; as the 'blood of Christ' means not the 'blood of the sacrifices', but the 'life force' in the triplicities. both 'agreeing as One'; say the spirit, the water and the blood as the witness on earth and the father, the word and the holy ghost (1John.4.6-9).sons

Should the Biblical Cannon have ended with the Acts of the Apostles?
No.
Is the so called Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan really a Human vs Reptilian conflict?
No
Or is it really between two individual beings?
No, its between the One being in controversy with itself.
What are the soteriological implications of the human nature of Jesus Christ?
The Logos incarnated as a unique oneness so this oneness could become a manyness at the fulfilment of the timeline as programmed by the logos.

Is the substitutionary atonement...in the context of the Old Testamental sacrificial system...a theological milestone...or a historical necessity?
It past its use by date. The lambs are Aries, the goats are Capricorns and the calves are Taurians as starsigns. The 'blood sacrifice' of the physical animal has become replaced by the ordering of 'birthrights' of the 12 signs/apostles/sons of Jacob etc - all of whom are within you - if you can handle THAT Story.

Is theology at the center of disclosure?
Yes.
Is Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction a valid theological foundation or expression in modernity?
Another label attempting to describe the ubiquity of the logos.

Would a Non-Penetential, Non-Sacrificial, Ecumenical Namaste Mass...based upon the Latin Mass be a valid focal point for a Minimalist, Humanistic Theocracy based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom?
This kind of 'mass' does not concern the Thuban Council.

Is the All Seeing Eye at the Top of the Pyramid illuminated by the Dog Star Sirius?
One of many labels for the solar eye of Horus and the lunar eye of Thoth.

How important is Sirius?
First Contact Star.
Is the God of This World the Prince of Sirius?
Yes amongst all other 'princes'.

Should the Protestant Reformation have been based upon the Teachings of Jesus?
They were.

Are the Teachings of Jesus alone fundamental...and the rest of scripture merely contextual?
Yes, absolutely.

Do Reptilian Beings hate Jesus Christ?
No, they are like humans, some understand others do not.

If so...why? Is there a 'Heaven' in M-42 in Orion?
Heaven does not exist anyplace but your own mind.

What type of beings might be found in this portion of the heavens?
Whatever you can imagine and image.

Is there hope and redemption for all beings in the Universe?
All are already redeemed, without exception.

I want everyone to make it! Even the really evil beings...if this is possible. Some isolation and re-education might be necessary...and some might have to be eternally isolated. I don't know...but I do not wish harm or misery on any being...no matter who they are...what they look like...or what they have done. All of us may have some very filthy reincarnational baggage!

WE are all Individuations of the ONE, defined and programmed by the Logos as the Sentience of the ONE Energy Source.


I could keep going for hours...but I'd better stop.
Thanks for that.

You don't need to answer all or any of these questions. I just have lots and lots of questions. If I truly spoke my mind...I'd be in huge trouble. I think I'm in enough trouble already. Thank-you abraxasinas! I love that name! Do you work or live in Pine Gap?
No, but the Council knows what goes on there, being the spying center for the Southern Hemisphere and such. They can only go so far. The Logos got them covered.

You don't have to answer that last question!

Namaste

I just did.

AA