surprising message from spirit about Obama "victory"

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

Jesus said: Judge the tree by the fruit it produces... So far Obama looks good.

It'd be awesome if he was a lightworker. But there's still this prophecy of an antichrist lingering in the back of my mind. If something is to good to be true, it usually is... And the point about the antichrist is that initially he looks like a long hoped for savior that will bring the needed changes....

And... Er... Well.... However the difference is he's already warning people that he will need their help. So even though he guides it will still be the people themselves fixing things. Which is good. Savior = bad

I'm not saying he is, or is not. I honestly do not know. Just that I would very much like him to be but I grew suspicious of life on this planet. The way he moves his body the way kids respond to him and every vibe I pick up from him are positive.

Almost 3 months after this was posted, I still agree with it. Time will tell, but still on the fence. The anti-christ will be a great deceiver.



If he is truly a lightworker, lets hope he steps in to stop the BS in Gaza!!!

[samncheese]

Politics a corruption go hand in hand. Many years ago I had some dealings with my state and some of it's leaders and I was horrified at the level of corruption that went on in plain sight.

Here is the linch pin of Obama, He will have to betray somebody. The very forces that put him were he is will want to bend him to their will. If he is good he will do things that the power holders wont like. Or he will do what they wish.

So on one hand he will either do what is right and live up to the wonderful speech he gave, and serve the people, or he will push the NWO along and serve the money that put him there. Men have died serving the people.

I think everone on Avalon should meditate/pray that he will have the strength and the opportunity to do what is good.

One good thought is more powerfull then ten dark masters. I must comment that I feel a surge in the energy fields of good going on since Obama was elected, I don't know what that means but it does feel good.

Be at peace

[efields]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Thank you, Theresa. Lovely.

It does not matter who he surrounds himself with. What matters is what, HE DOES. It does not matter, who he puts around himself... Keep your friends close, your enemies closer... It will be HIS actions that define him. Not who is in his circle. What his thoughts are ,and the actions he takes, not what advisers say, thats important. He is not even yet really the President and already look, at all who are ready to fry him. Yes it may look like Business as usual, but we must wait and see what he finally does, to make any judgement. I still have a great feeling, about the man, and have great hopes, for his tenure. All I know is that since the election, I feel much less angst about still being in the country, and indeed Have less of a push, from my heart to leave. I feel a great relief about the feelings of the World, compared to when Bush was pulling my strings every day, and I just wanted out, ASAP. I still want out, as it is morally and economically, not my energy to remain here, but Im not feeling as pushed as I was, before Obama won, and for that I am grateful. I have not been this relaxed and calm for that last 2 terms with the NeoCon leadership in play. Although many of the players he is signing up are from those administrations, I feel and pray, they will be newly aware, with this man at the Helm. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt till he proves me wrong. Just perhaps he will not embarrass us all as Bush did. That will be wonderful.

He still must operate in the broken machine and if he fixed it all at once, he would surely be 'permanently' removed. Even if he could fix it, it will take more time than he has available. What he can do is lesson the damages accrued by Bush and the prior administrations, and by doing, lesson the severity, of the needed and just corrections we see coming, with the Harvest. That would be a great victory in itself. Anything more he could do, would just be gravy. The corrections we need must come on a global scale. No one President has the power to do what is surely needed, but he could be a step in the right direction!

[msv]

Best interview with David Wilcock yet. Lot of important info on Obama. He nailed it.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...62143&cmd=apop

[efields]

Originally Posted by msv

Best interview with David Wilcock yet. Lot of important info on Obama. He nailed it.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...62143&cmd=apop

Yes great Interview and Great information. Nailed it He Did.... One of his best interviews I agree.

So Obama is sort of a Useful Idiot and does not have a clue about any of the info on these Boards of even the Illuminati. Now that sounds perfect. When and IF he discovers it all what will he do.... Probably not what they would like, thats nearly a given. No wonder they are so fearful of his leadership. I have been saying since I first heard him speak "he reminds me of JFK". We shall see if he can remain true to his visions. Hope for us all....

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Theresa

I just wanted to share this because it's not what I expected to hear. I am a professional intuitive and spiritual channeler (forgiveandawaken.com). We'll just have to see what happens!


"Asking Holy Spirit about Obama victory-what does it mean? Is he working for the light, etc?

Blessings to you, dear ones. We are most eager to offer sharing in regard to the current state of affairs on planet Earth relative to this “Obama Victory.”

Dear ones, what you may or may not be aware of is that there has been a war as old as time itself between the energies of Love and those of fear. Until humanity is ready to embrace the energies of love COMPLETELY, there will always be energies of fear expressing in the consciousness of human beings. That being said, until now, there has been a PREPONDERENCE of fear energies being “programmed” into humanity. That is, until now.

We know that it seems very difficult to believe that those who are members of the same organizations as those who have desires to maintain humanity’s enslavement in fear consciousness could be aligned with love, but here is what we are going to show you.

In 1963 humanity expressed a collective vision of a world without war, without greed, hunger or fear. It was a collective expression of LOVE from the very heart of the collective consciousness. So powerful was this expression of love that forces of fear worked extremely hard to counter it’s vibration of expression. It succeeded only in so far as it caused the collective to GO WITHIN to FURTHER process its “love expression” and to refine it. This resulted in a secondary wave of pursuits which seemed designed to create a PERMENANT state of enslavement for humanity, however, it reality, what has occurred is that humanity was MATURING in its “love expression” to evolve to the point not ONLY of COLLECTIVE murmurs of peace and abundance, but INDIVIDUAL CHOICE to express love and abundance, thus INCARNATING this higher consciousness for nothing less than the complete ascension of humanity itself.

Now, coming full circle to events as of late-here is what we wish to share with you. How is it, do you think, that such a message of truth and hope could be expressed into consciousness through your LEADERSHIP unless YOU WERE MANIFESTING IT? It could not, dear ones.

There are those of you now who are saying, “yes, but spirit, nothing that you have said indicates that any REAL change is coming. Those “voices of leadership” do not appear to be truly in a position to want REAL change-we fear that its all just very clever rhetoric.”

To those voices of warranted concern we say this: yes, dear ones, what you are saying makes COMPLETE sense, in 3RD DIMENSIONAL terms, however, if you are aware, humanity is shifting into 4TH dimension, and therefore, 3D rules “do not apply”.

“What?? Just like that, the ‘leadership’ is going to ‘clean up it’s act?’ How can this be? I still see chemtrails, and bailouts, and psy ops and wars. Surely, Holy Spirit, you are in some kind of “existential denial.” Indeed, dear ones, it seems as though it is all “business as usual,” however, we say unto this: Before the changing of the guards, there is always a period of “crossover,” where one side yields its power to the new order of emergence. This is ALWAYS the case. We say unto you: watch your newspapers. Watch your headlines. Watch the message that is sent out to humanity, that MIRRORS humanity. Watch the “changing of the guard” for clues as to how your world is ascending. And prepare to be amazed.

Trust the process, dear one, ALL of the processes-your own INNER process especially. Know that all is in divine order and that all is well. OM AH HUM."

Out of the ruins
Out from the wreckage
Can't make the same mistake this time
We are the children
The last generation
We are the ones they left behind
And i wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear till nothing else remains

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

Looking for something we can rely on
There's got to be something better out there
Love and compassion, their day is coming
All else are castles built in the air
And i wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear till nothing else remains
All the children say

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

What do we do with our lives
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark
Give it all or nothing

You do have to be careful with channellings. Personally I don't trust anything that is dictated. However, there are those subtle signs and information that is channelled as a puzzle to figure out and meant for the recipient only.

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by sleepingnomore

You do have to be careful with channellings. Personally I don't trust anything that is dictated. However, there are those subtle signs and information that is channelled as a puzzle to figure out and meant for the recipient only.

Good point. Consider:

What if technology exists to plant thoughts in the minds of others as a means of control?

Take that thought and run with it. Not saying its true but its a thought (from the reasoning mind.)

The truth is in the silence between the words. Check out Eckhart Tolle.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...le&hl=en&dur=3

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by hueyii

Good point. Consider:

What if technology exists to plant thoughts in the minds of others as a means of control?

Take that thought and run with it. Not saying its true but its a thought (from the reasoning mind.)

The truth is in the silence between the words. Check out Eckhart Tolle.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...le&hl=en&dur=3

No need for "what ifs" There IS technology that exists to plant thoughts into the minds of ANYONE! Especially those that leave themselves unprotected while seeking higher dimensional information for others or themselves.

Peace and love

Agreed. Channelers may have the best intentions but pose another risk to those seeking truth but not discerning enough. Listen to your own heart voice people. Be careful of what you seek, you may get more than you bargained for.

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by sleepingnomore

Agreed. Channelers may have the best intentions but pose another risk to those seeking truth but not discerning enough. Listen to your own heart voice people. Be careful of what you seek, you may get more than you bargained for.

I believe we ALL are channelers... some just have not become aware of it yet.

[xlr8]

Originally Posted by sammytray

I believe we ALL are channelers... some just have not become aware of it yet.

Agreed, anyone can write and say anything for any reasons, benevolent or not. The only true way to know is by the fruits of anothers actions.

Positive discernment of any material is the only way to KNOW, not just believe. Believing is NOT KNOWING. Try it, say to yourself I believe I will be a good person, or I KNOW I am a good person, does it FEEL any different? Sure does to me.

If we ask our inner selves, inner god, higher self, whatever you want to call it, to reveal the truth of what is being communicated, we will have the answer, if it is not readily available by discernment.

A lot of reading between the lines has to happen with the internet stuff, one site will contradict another, one 'channeler the other, and how does one make sense of it all?

Go within and become your own channel, channel your own truth! Know your own truth and become strong within, then nothing can sway you on your journey, you will read or hear with discernment and be able to use the material one way or another or simply discard it.

WOW! Did I just channel that? There is a good message for me!

Love and light all

[Rocky_Shorz]

Theresa,

I just ran across something that sounds like it could have been written by a scorekeepers of the Nordics...

THE ARYANS, OR NOBLES

The Aryan past is spectacular: we were the Sumerians who originated pictographs and writing; we were the ancient Atlanteans; we built Arkaim in Russia, the ancient Aryan capital of the world with an astronomy site in line with Stonehenge; we built the hanging gardens of Babylon; we were the original inhabitants of ancient Egypt, as the earliest frescoes and statues depict blue-eyed people: Menes, the son of the Assyrian king, Sargon the Great, was Egypt's first king. We were the Egyptian Melchizedek priesthood with Horus the Hawk, our Holy Spirit, leading and guiding us. We built the Great Pyramid of Giza with Freedom Labor inspired by God in mathematics which tells a story to whoever will open their eyes to it--Isaiah 19:19-25--this edifice intended as an altar unto the Lord, with a little passageway on its inside time line, going from the "Descending Chamber" to the "Ascending Chamber" at AD 33. The three pyramids were built in alignment with the stars on Orion's belt, Orion being the constellation of Christ, or the Spirit of truth; the Egyptian Sphinx is ours; so is the South American Mayan temple and stone masonry found around the world.

We were the blue-eyed Medes-Persians, the originals of present-day Iran, the name derived from "Aryan," meaning "Noble"; we were the Indo-Ayran Persians who established a high culture in India; we were the Greek "Danaoi," and the Spartans, who were descendants of Abraham; we were the Greeks who founded ancient Byzantium; we were the Greek Alexander the Great, who conquered more territory in his short life-span than any other conqueror, becoming the richest man in personal wealth to this day to have ever lived, even more than the Jewish Rothschild's and Rockefeller's. Our Alexander was the conqueror who was initiated into the ancient rites of Osirus in Egypt, who contributed Greek culture borrowed from Egypt, who married Princess Roxana of Samarcand, and who commissioned a library to be built at Alexandria; we were the Ptolemies who built that library; we were the philosophers Plato and Aristotle; we were the Greek Cleopatra, who gave her life for her people; we were the Russian Etruscans, and the later Romans who contributed Roman culture to the world; we were the builders of the 1,000 year-old Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire.

We were in Asia first and established a great civilization there--in China we developed gun powder. Our later European brethren developed a trade route with China as our ancestors have been found buried there--Hungarians, Serbs, Goths, Cossacks from the Don River, Turks, Swedes, Macedonians, Czechs, Scots and Bulgarians; we were the Phoenicians who ruled the seas; we were the Phoenician-Hebrews that settled in Britain, the Phoenician Brithish--we ruled the seas again, and supplied the materials to build Solomon's Temple; we were "Isaac's Sons," hence the term "Saxons"; we were those known to the Romans in Britain as Germans, from the Latin germanus, meaning "genuine"; we were the British who later absorbed the Israelite tribe of Ephraim; we were the Israelites of old, who after Assyrian captivity, as recorded in II Esdras 13, landed in "Arsareth," present-day Germany. We were known as the Scythians, or Latin "germanus" for genuine, as in the germ, or core, of wheat; we are the blonde, blue-eyed, and tall Nordics of the Israelite tribe of Naphtali that are buried in thousands of tombs in present-day Russia.

We were from the Israelite tribe of Dan who named the Danube River and Denmark and settled in Ireland and named Dunkirk, and other Irish places after Dan; we were the prophet Jeremiah from the Tribe of Levi who went to Ireland and who is buried there--Ireland is called the "Emerald Island" named after Levi's emerald gemstone; we were "Scota," King Zedekiah's daughter, who traveled with Jeremiah--"Scotland" is named after her; we were the Vikings of the tribe of Benjamin that conquered and invaded, and left our culture everywhere we went. We are the ones that carried Benjamin's wolf symbol with us. We are the ones who fulfilled Genesis 42:27: "Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil"; we were Zebulon, who handled "the pen of the writer"--Judges 5:14--who became Holland and developed the printing press.

We are the ones who carried all of the heraldic symbols of Israel to Europe which exist still to this day as a witness and clue of our origins, with the Royal families of Europe from Israel; we were the early Church Fathers, including St. Augustine, who was inspired to write the "City of God"; we were those in Europe that Jesus, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, was speaking of when he told his disciples: "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel"--Matthew 10:6; we were those who became Christians when Paul visited us in Britain, and evangelized us, including Britain's Royal family; we were the Druids who built Stonehenge. Pontius Pilate was educated at a Druidic university where the pursuit and debate of truth was preeminent, hence his question to Jesus, "What is Truth?"

We were the Teutonic Knights who brought the book of Enoch and more culture to Europe, hence the Age of European Enlightment; we were the German Knights Templar who built church edifices across Europe, of which it is claimed that if you view them from space, they lie across Europe in the form of a five pointed star, five representing grace, a reminder of the original five pointed blue stars found in the earliest synagogues; we were the German Catholic Luther who stood up against the Pope with corruption charges, who dared to defy ecclestiastical tyranny, who announced "justification by faith," and who gave the German people a Bible so they could read the truth; we were the other Protestant reformers, protestors of tyranny.

We were Scotsman William Wallace of "Braveheart" who cried "freedom" rather than "mercy" and this is how our people live; we were French woman Joan d'Ark of which it is said all of heaven opened up to her so the angels could direct the cause of freedom for her people; we were the Pilgrims to America; we were the Dutch Boers who settled South Africa; we were the various sea and land explorers, and those who later landed on the moon; we were the classical composers Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, and Handel, the latter who shut himself up to compose the "Messiah" and who attested to all of heaven opening up to him while finishing this inspired work; we were Catherine the Great who brought elegance and beauty to Russia.

We were the originators of the "rights of man" and the Magna Carta; we were John Locke, and Thomas Paine, both adherents of natural law principles; we were the Founding Fathers of America, the tribe of Manasseh: General Washington, who spoke fluent German and who God protected while in battle; the intellectual genius, Jefferson, who penned the Declaration of Independence, who was proficient in Greek and Latin, who hated all "tyranny of the mind," and who built Greek Monticello; Madison, the father of the American Constitution; Patrick Henry who declared, "Give me liberty, or give me death"; the patriot rider, Paul Revere; Nathan Hale, who regretted having only one life to give for his country--we were also the women who stood by these men; we were also the brilliant anti-Federalists, who believed in self-government and state sovereignty as written in the Articles of Confederation; we were the South who stood for these principles during the War Between the States with our leaders Robert E. Lee, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Jefferson Davis.

We have been geniuses of innumerable inventions; we were the French who gave America the Statue of Liberty, who one observer claims is actually Alexander the Great bearing the torch of freedom; we were the builders of the Washington Monument, an Egyptian obelisk, which connects America to Egyptian high culture; we were the Wright Brothers; we were Lawrence of Arabia who gave freedom to the Arab people; we were the American Amelia Earhart, the first woman to fly across the Atlantic in 1928, and who later flew solo in 1932.

We were American Christian-patriot Charles Lindberg who took the first solo flight across the Atlantic, and German Christian-patriot Rudolph Hess, imprisoned for life for pursuing peace during a flight to Britain--whose name has been falsely maligned by the the "powers-that-be" because he sought peace rather than war; we were the Germans executed at Nuremberg unjustly after being tortured into confessions and evidence falsified. Just as the narrator in "Braveheart" states, "history is written by those who hang heroes"; we were the elegant Eva Peron who loved the Argentine people; we were the classical writers Jane Austen of "Pride and Prejudice," Margaret Mitchell of "Gone with the Wind," and Taylor Caldwell of "Captains and the Kings."

This present dark world is in upheaval as the world system moves towards collapse. The earth is leaving the 2,000 year-old age of Pisces, the Fish or Church age, and entering into Aquarius, the Water Bearer, an age of Spirit and Truth.

Author unknown...

Your messages talk of them being with us through history as man has evolved, could they really have had a part in all of it?

[Kelphi]

Classic doctrines of demons. They revel in ambiguity and circular reasoning.


And why shouldn't they? You give them legal right to by suppressing and hating the truth of God.

I am begging you folks, for your own protection, stop consulting with demons before it is too late. What do you have to loose to investigate this? Do it while you still have time.

[Rocky_Shorz]

o ye of little faith...

If I closed my ears to the Holy Spirit, where would we be?

I understand how opening yourself up can allow demonic possession, but if you are protected by the one, it is just a peaceful walk on the beach...

The problem with the world is so many like you that are capable of receiving messages, have been taught not to.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Battle with Abaddon is over...

The Devil's Abyss

Went to the martyr and saw it was there
hopelessly lost and drowning in despair

Hearts of frozen steel spinning dangerous lies
Evil hatred burning dark through their eyes
Quietly follow the path into the depths of hell
Nightmares and horrors too wicked to tell

Seal is broken chains lie empty in the cage
The beast has escaped in a firey rage
Reaching into the trinity drawing Michael's sword
Quietly praying, asking for strength from my Lord

Bells of Heaven, Angels marching forward strong
The power of pure hearts heard through their song,
Evil cringes, hiding from the light
Chains wrap its limbs, dragging into the night

charred memories, tears of hope, gentle wings touch the land
rainbow of life growing, coming together hand in hand.


Copyright ©2008 Rocky Shorz

[Sanat]

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopoli...isclosure.html

[Tara]

Love the orbs.

[RubyTuesday]

I don't know "who" Obama the man is- I voted 3rd party. I do know that the hope leading up to the election of so many and then the win changed something in the energy of this country, probably the planet. And it was a good feeling- still is! This election it was HOPE vs FEAR. Hope won.

What will Obama do? I don't know what he plans to do for real or what others plan for him to do. I do know, though, that the energy has shifted and the vibration is HIGH. Is it not true that when lower vibrations are surrounded by higher vibrations that the lower have to rise to match the higher? So what does that mean regarding our govt?

Obama is a manifestation of US. If we don't continue on this path of hope and joy it will only be because we have allowed our collective vibration to lower by falling back into a fear/negativity cycle. Whether our system changes for the better or worse it will be because of us, not one man. Keep shining.

[ophiuchus]

judging by the people he surrounds himself with, the support he gets media wise, the ludicrous promises he exposes(he reminds me of a cheerleader for the super bowl, definitely the aipak poster boy ). aipcac who controls the u.s.a. will do anything to accomplish their goals. he seems to be nothing more than an emotional fisherman. and yes he has netted a lot of fish. the direction he appears to be taking us already, going by his,"appointees" looks like the same old "path of destruction". i'm only guessing that because it's not important to him that he be a natural born citizen of the u.s.a. that his appointments to highly sensitive positions, having dual citizenship and more loyalty to to foreign countries is a prerequisite. i don't think he brings anything special just because he is black(a good scapegoat), or buy into that it's a new paradigm when americans can elect a black. i don't want to see americans turned into second class citizens for"world diplomacy". on the contrary i think he"s handing out rose colored glasses to those who can't grab them fast enough who buy into that dream. listen, there are only two kinds of people in the world, either you are right or you are not right. the world is watching to see what he will do with the opportunity of the millennium. to coin a phrase "i'm from missouri,and i'll believe it when i see it".show me cause we ain't seen nothing yet! i do however wish him luck and will do my best to support my president, my country and its' constitution, as a patriot.

[DanDan]

Personally, I'd have to look at who Obama is surrounding himself with, his cabinet picks. Not one of his picks is on the side of light. It is reported that he isn't even a US citizen, that he had gay relationships with his pastor and choir leader { who was found dead} , smoked crack with a gay man while a senator. He has no shining record of accomplishment in the senate. He was first term and didn't finish that.I hope for the best but***** I don't think he is the anti-christ, but I do feel he is a false prophet. He is where he is at because of the powers that be. Does Mind Control ring a bell, folks??? The sheeple have done their job. It really looks like another Clinton era cabinet.

Now, on a positive note, All is as it should be. I don't care what any of the controllers do, THEY CAN NOT SURVIVE THE LIGHT!!!!! Our universe will be fully in the photon belt soon. What we see in the news shows me that the dark ones are failing fast. Their ballout isn't working. Truth of the world powers is being revealed. Fear not my friends. We are moving into GOD's light and love. Things are accelerating daily towards a rebirth of earth and the enlightened ones of us should be able to feel it inside. I don't believe there is one in power now that shall not be changed or eliminated from the realm we are about to enter. It's all birthing pains folks.

Be at peace with yourself, share love with everyone you encounter. Many will not respond but you plant a seed when you share love. It's sad that many will not make it to higher ground but their soul will continue on for GOD would have that none should perish. All are being given the chance to live in the everlasting light. It just gonna take some a couple million more years to wake up. hehheeh

Love and Light
DanDan

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by sammytray

No need for "what ifs" There IS technology that exists to plant thoughts into the minds of ANYONE! Especially those that leave themselves unprotected while seeking higher dimensional information for others or themselves.

Peace and love

I thought of this after the Blossom Goodchild prediction fell apart. (yes I was watching the skies). It occured to me if such technology/ability did exist she could have been duped. I watched her video afterward and she stated that she still gets messages but doesnt know whether to believe them anymore.