Bye Bye Whistleblowers.

[Metaphor]

I guess some people have finished the theory-course and are ready to put it in practical terms. No more sitting on my ****, lets LIVE IT. Not talk about it.
This place is a great place for like minded sekers to exchange ideas for growth. Its obvious that for some its like going through the same level in school year after year. It gets repetitve and boring I guess.
Im not there yet, but remembering that I was a high school-dropout in my days makes me think Im not gonna here in the lounge much longer. All crewpersonnel please report to the gates! Duty calls!

[gscraig]

I am actually glad to see this thread.

It means people are now noticing that it is time to change the game, or remove themselves from it.

MP2 is simply trying to be the change he wishes to see, and expressing it via this post. He indeed has the right to do that. No post is silly, senseless, or a waste of time. If it adds no value to you personally, then we should perhaps leave it for others to assess.
Additionally, sharing doom and gloom scenarios are beneficial to all of us in terms of preparation consideration, but regurgitating the same doom and gloom scenarios is pitiful indeed. Thereafter, you may choose to envision a positive alternative to manifest, but by all means do not be afraid of at least being told of unpopular scenarios. That's like asking for a blindfold with a set of earplugs and a glass of sunshine, please.

This is similar to what I expressed in another post. B&K by all means may continue to conduct interviews and are well respected and appreciated for their efforts. However, Project Camelot, Godlike Productions, Eagles Disobey, Nutrimedical Radio show, Consciousness Media, etc, etc, etc....These outlets do and have served some purpose, but the next interview or hearing the lastest fantastic secret (supposedly) isn't going to wake many more up, because most of the audiece are already awake. There is a redundacy of information from WB's now, that you have to ask;"Why this interview?" or "Why not focus on the new info this person has to offer?". Afterall, we know they edit these interviews before their released. To which some may say, another "controlled" message after all.

This means we are not getting any closer to DISCLOSURE for the masses or more people. Many viewing these WB outlets (other than the Disclosure Project) will struggle accepting the information, because it is now geared towards those already aware. This then creates a repetitive cycle that stagnates and decreases in value, importance and urgency unless it is real time helpful information (e.g; Swine Flu or the Economy).
To Camelot's credit, they are working on changing their site to better present it's material from A-Z. Kudos! indeed.

Just as we have done with those elected officials in Brain-Washington, DC and the White-Lie House, we start accepting things as they are instead of demanding something new or an evolved effort. This in turn will indeed allow us to better influence our experiences as a whole via consciousness on this planet.

This site is still indeed valuable, because there are many of us who know info that comes from experiences, communicate with others whom are aware, and get news from different parts of the world we may otherwise never know about.

So, all the postings are correct in there own right, but MP2 is now demanding from alternative media sources, what the citizens of this planet should have demanded from it's elected "o-fish-ials" in their governments a long time ago...A fragmentation of it's structure to create a new paradigm.
This one does not serve it's initial purpose anymore.

[Jnana]

MyPlanet2 wrote: The PTB have nothing. They have no hold over us. They can do nothing to us. If we say "go away and leave us alone", there is nothing they can do to us. They know we are creator beings, who can manifest freely. They know if we are left to our own devices, we will not continue to create a world where those few little dweebs control the rest of us. Their only chance is to trick us into believing we have reasons to fear them. Or trick us into believing that all is under their control, and that we must obey or have our permission to survive withdrawn by them. They can not do this in any forthright manner. They must use trickery.

Very well stated. All they have is the power of suggestion.

gscraig wrote:
This means we are not getting any closer to DISCLOSURE for the masses or more people. Many viewing these WB outlets (other than the Disclosure Project) will struggle accepting the information, because it is now geared towards those already aware. This then creates a repetitive cycle that stagnates and decreases in value, importance and urgency unless it is real time helpful information (e.g; Swine Flu or the Economy).

Disclosure is up to us. I talked to my daughters and parents about some of my ET craft sightings/interactions this weekend. At first my daughters simply tried to tune me out, but I think a little bit got through. My parents may think I'm a bit nuts, but my step-dad is interested enough in physics that we could talk about the theory of gravitation and how Einstein's view doesn't quite work, opening up the possibility of field propulsion. You have to come at it from various angles.

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by Karen

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHI...howtopic=14331

AWESOME LINK!!!!!


A HUGE THANK YOU Karen!!!!!!!!!

Anything else along this that you may wish to convey here or pm is very welcome information. I've read on orgone before, but never this link. Thanks a billion!

[Humble Janitor]

To me, whistleblowers can be valuable but as the human ego has demonstrated, it can be very easy to get wrapped up in one's work and to start thinking of yourself as some sort of "messiah" or "messenger" to others.

I think a moratorium on whistleblowers may be a good idea since we don't really know what's the truth or what isn't the truth and we can thank the powers that were for this.

I don't believe in new age anything because I see that as a movement driven purely by ego and there are some things that genuinely anger me about that movement (white people trying to become shamans is one of those things).

[endonthisnote]

hey everyone,
just wanted to thank MP2 for the original post...lets begin co-creating and dispense with co-reacting.
i also want to thank bill and kerry for their work...we wouldn't be exploring this experience if it wasn't for them.
lastly, i want to leave everyone with one of my favourite robert anton wilson quotes: "if you think you know what the hell is going on, you're probably full of sh*t."

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[Metaphor]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I don't believe in new age anything because I see that as a movement driven purely by ego and there are some things that genuinely anger me about that movement (white people trying to become shamans is one of those things).

I see your point, but I dont see the problem with white people turning to shamanism? Where I live it would be perfectly normal, as the old Viking-shamanism (ie Rune-magick) is still being practiced, and has been passed on from generation to generation.
Just a reflection in all friendliness. Back to topic.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Metaphor

I see your point, but I dont see the problem with white people turning to shamanism? Where I live it would be perfectly normal, as the old Viking-shamanism (ie Rune-magick) is still being practiced, and has been passed on from generation to generation.
Just a reflection in all friendliness. Back to topic.

Yes, eXchanger made a good point about this.

Sorry to derail the subject.

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[Unified Serenity]

It goes back to the victim mentality. There are many in the American Indian culture who are angry over what happened to their tribes, and I don't have a problem with their anger. I do have a problem with their hurling it my way because I am a mystic and I study various spiritual paths. As far as I know, I did not have anything to do with the attacks their tribes suffered.

We are moving and evolving spiritually into a higher being. Some are awake and some are not. I also believe that we often incarnate into a race we once hated. I don't hate any race. I don't understand racist people. I've never understood mean people. I am not perfect and not afraid to look at my reactions to people and events in my life. I wish we could get over the past. I desire for the human race to choose to move forward in love to treat each other with love and respect. I can only work on myself and try to be a messenger of truth and love in my world.

Thanks again for the message Exchange.

Originally Posted by eXchanger

take a good look at the colour of your palms/and, the colour of the bottom of your feet -- all people are the same colour there i was told, that whatever incarnation, you currently are in
that is WHO YOU HATED, in your last lifetime

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

take a good look at the colour of your palms/and,
the colour of the bottom of your feet -- all people are the same colour there

What I am talking about is people who read a book or take a course and then proclaim that they are shamans.

These are people who do not wish to put the hard work into their spirituality and they are ego-driven.

I am NOT saying that all white people who go this route are wrong.

But I have met people with absolutely no recorded native ancestry that claim to be natives. I usually don't try to correct them but rather leave them be because who am I to judge them as being wrong?

I suppose that could apply to the shaman thing as well.

[tone3jaguar]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I don't believe in new age anything because I see that as a movement driven purely by ego and there are some things that genuinely anger me about that movement (white people trying to become shamans is one of those things).

New Age is just a label in a society that desires to label everything. It is one of the most over used ambiguous references in the world today. Everything not main stream religion is grouped into it. For that reason I do not use the term either. On the other hand, I think that people are getting a little to hard lined with the avoid the ego paradigm. You don't make decisions that erase the ego, you raise your vibration and the ego gradually morphs and fades to subtlety. It will still be there, but only as a background template instead of the structure of your world view.

If someone is trying to become shaman when they are not born into the frequency of a shaman (astrological, not bloodlines) they will become either frustrated or very clever at tricking people. You don't choose the shamanic path, it chooses you. Yes you choose it before incarnation, but unfortunately you are oblivious to it until someone tells you or the other side walks up to you and bitch slaps you. Then about 10 years later when your head starts to slow down from the spinning induced by the spiritual bitch slap you begin to form a coherent shamanic paradigm. Or at least that is the way I understand it.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

We're just going round and round now. All the whistles are blown. All the testimony is available. To continue to try to find new whistleblowers only goes towards feeding fear.

What?

You want us to get off the merry-go-round ride?

But some people like it. We're not all at the same place on the journey.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Karen

What?

You want us to get off the merry-go-round ride?

But some people like it. We're not all at the same place on the journey.

[Unified Serenity]

You have voiced my feelings pretty well myplanet. I have gotten tired with the same ol' rhetoric of the sky if falling from the SAME people. I think that is the distinction. People have blown their whistles. They have come forward with dire predictions and in some cases stupid assertions such as saying vaccines are perfectly safe. I don't see anything new coming from these people, and yet they are on stage again and again.

I am not interested in these people's stories anymore. I want real information, real up to the minute whistle blowing, not something 20 years old that others have already shared ad nauseum. Give me something kewl to sink my teeth into that opens new doors of thinking.

I prefer positive information, but if some whistle blower knows that there will definitely be a nuke or bio attack on some city this Wednesday, then fine warn us. But, you only get the one chance in my book to be right. I really enjoyed Peggy Kane's site for a while, but she keeps coming out with "this is it" time lines and when it doesn't happen she comes up with some story that the time line has been altered and we are really back in May or some such stuff. She has lost all credibility with me. I liked a lot of her reverse speech EVP stuff, but then again, she doesn't share her reverse speech stuff from the God and Goddess. She's like this great guru and if you say anything to question her then her minions stomp all over you. Oh, she turned off comments over a month or two ago due to the people getting irritated with this yo-yo time line stuff. So, thanks Myplanet. I agree with much that you have said.

[Wormhole]

I will only speak for myself. I am tired. Deeply tired of being lied to around every corner. All I want to hear is the truth, and it does not exist purely in any form any where, in so far as I know. I am tired of looking for it, I am tired of watching questions being asked and answers being cryptically given. Perhaps it just does not exist through duality at all, and can not.

The only TRUTH I know is in my own experience. The only thing that I can depend upon is CHANGE, and that is always a surprise. There are no more answers here then that exist in our own hearts. I will not and do not place the responsibility of my own truth with another. I will not give my own personal power away to the whims of an interview, the idea of an answer, or the thirst for something greater then myself, or my own personal needs.

If we are all truly one, then the TRUTH will be known by us all. We may want to deserve it now, but we may need to pass on to the next world by death or other means to achieve it. IF I have learned anything from Avalon at all, it is that people will say anything to be heard and will fight tooth and nail to know.

Most importantly I have been reminded, however, that I love you all in all of your glory, uniqueness, and emotional girth. I love the way we all talk, argue, and search. I love that we are here because we are all one in wanting to know more. I love that we share socially as well as privately. I love our faults and I love our visions. I love how when one of us messes up, we are reminded of our own mistakes and make changes to become better. I love that we are forgiving, and becoming more so.

Simply put, I LOVE YOU!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[dagon]

nice to catch some truth around here. I don't se much in the way of building communities here. just some conversations and some support and bickering. and I have to admit. Im addicted to the fear I guess. I cant stop looking , listening , ect.. I find these subjects so entertaining. but the more I look and listen. the more I don't like the world Im living in. cant trust the government, and who know who else.



this thing worth steven greer is strange. and I not sure how I feel about what went down. I don't like the way karrie dealt with it. kind of like a child. like she had to be right, and stuffing it down his throat. greer was cool and calm. and just that alone made his points come out on top.



everything in this field that we have seen with the whistle blowers,,, ect.. its all stories at this point. and I have to keep reminding myself not to take it all in with such conviction. yes its true. there world is falling apart. and I feel an urgency to help. look for the truth. ect... but come on.. as you would say in vermont... show me.... or live free or die. I think the show me is penn...



there is money to be made in this field. just like anything alse. humans are suffering from the human condition. that's for sure. I want off the marry go round... I want off this planet.. out of my skin... out of my head... there is a lot of fear... being tossed around... and I to wonder what is the goal here... really... truth.. who's truth... the truth.. in who's eyes..



I think kerry could have made her point without bashing greer. despite her personal truths. I have seen here bash bill in interviews in a child like way. speak into the mic dam it. or ill have a tizzy.... I look past it... because I support the work...



I have seen this room fall apart before... differences in opinion.. and what not. people getting kicked out. B + K leaving. ect...



B + K I love you guys. I hope for the best.. but after spending time with you all.. all I want to do is burn my credit cards and sell my belongings. and check out... I don't want to pay taxes to the keepers, ect.. and after listening to the web bot and gerald celente, Im in so mush fear inside I cant stop trying to convince my friends and family that the world as we know it is about to crumble and die. and of coarse there is the rebirth. LOL... OOh my god. I would like to make moves in life and I find myself not making plans in my life based on information Im getting off the net. and not my life exp. I believe despite the small bits of hope. most of it is fear based control. it has affected my mind. and my decisions. Im not so sure that's a good thing.. yea know....



any how I just winging this out there so don't pick apart my spelling of grammar...



again I support B + K.. I do. I just want them to see my prospective. and the ripples its causing. I want to join the resistance.. and now...is that healthy??? you tell me...



and I know what some of what's being said is true. my grandfather was cornel in the air force. and wrote the pilots manual for training. ect. he was in charge of safety. I believe what I heard from family. he could be a whistle blower. but wont. and I know what I saw. but I just about had it with the fear mongering with the PTB...



did you guys catch coast last night about the family. if this place is about building communities and such.. I don't know what Im saying... why arnt we burning down there houses..... why are we taking this??? why I ask.. is it just pie in the sky to keep us coming back... Im drawing a line... or would like to.

[tone3jaguar]

I went through the enough with the B.S. phase a few weeks ago. Now I am in the I am doing my own thing phase, and the I am completely disillusioned with alternative media phase. I used to love watching streaming videos all of the time from different people. Now suddenly I find myself in a state of limbo wondering what path I am supposed to walk down next. Whatever

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[tone3jaguar]

Yep, I actually saw myself shift timelines when I was driving down the highway the other day. I mean the color of a car changed when I was about 50 freakin feat from it in broad daylight. Crazy s--t, I have not heard a single "testimony" from a whistle blower that accurately described how many and how easily timelines are leaped between. Dr. Dumb Ass Burisch swore up and down that there where only 2 timelines that an individual could go down. That was made up B.S. there are millions of parallel timelines per person. Who knows how many there are total for every person on earth. It does not matter, only about .0000000001 percent of them have an everyone dies outcome. Not 50 percent like our creative friend Dan Burisch. Just like MP2 said, fear propaganda.

My sister went to get the vaccination waver form so her 3 year old could start school the other day and they made her watch videos of kids sick and on their death beads before they would give her the form. The alternative media is and probably allways has been just as saturated with disinformation as the network news stations are. The only difference is that the network news stations do their best to make it look believable, except Fox news. You could put their stuff on the internet with different talking heads sitting in a trailor park living room and people would eat that s--t up too.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

I have heard different theories one being that we will be able to go through a dimensional doorway when things here get really crazy, but it will depend on what level of vibration you are emitting, not like a right or wrong or personal thing, but how one innately lives their life and the vibration you are.

Maybe there will be a portal to go into, has anyone else heard this theory?

I had another thought too, as our DNA is changing and more and more people are immune to diseases,etc, could it be that vaccines, flu won't have any effect on us?

I too feel fed up with the so called 'whistleblower' stuff and do not take them seriously, everyone has their own agenda, whether they are selling you an idea, vitamins, CD's, books, whatever, the only person I can trust for Truth is myself and I appreciate everyone's sharing on this as it has helped me see my thinking isn't as crazy as I thought but is in alignment with many of you here.

I am living one moment at a time....in love and peace. Because that is what I CHOOSE. I will not allow tptb or any of their minions to frighten me into living fearfully.

[rhythm]

evan being here now


can seem like all over the


place

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree

I have heard different theories one being that we will be able to go through a dimensional doorway when things here get really crazy, but it will depend on what level of vibration you are emitting, not like a right or wrong or personal thing, but how one innately lives their life and the vibration you are.

Maybe there will be a portal to go into, has anyone else heard this theory?

I had another thought too, as our DNA is changing and more and more people are immune to diseases,etc, could it be that vaccines, flu won't have any effect on us?

I too feel fed up with the so called 'whistleblower' stuff and do not take them seriously, everyone has their own agenda, whether they are selling you an idea, vitamins, CD's, books, whatever, the only person I can trust for Truth is myself and I appreciate everyone's sharing on this as it has helped me see my thinking isn't as crazy as I thought but is in alignment with many of you here.

I am living one moment at a time....in love and peace. Because that is what I CHOOSE. I will not allow tptb or any of their minions to frighten me into living fearfully.

we can intersect all of the dimensions right here and now. I don't believe there will be any sort of instantaneous shift as though walking out of one room and into another. (not sure about those playing at 3D barnacle)

What's happened with me, is I've realized that I've been functioning in the 3rd and at least 4th dimensions for some time now, except I didn't realize that is what it was. Now after lots of study, personal processing work, and communication with Higher dimensional beings, I have expanded my functionality and perceptions in some higher dimensions. I'm much more functional in 4th now than 3rd, (and much more comfortable there too) and I've been growing into the 5th more and more.

It's still easy for me to drop out of the 5th because I still have too much 3d baggage of lower vibrational frequency to be able to maintain the frequency range of the 5th. But if I recognize that is what's happened, I can fix it and shift back up instantly.

I may have some functionality in other higher dimensions, but am not presently aware of it.

A big part of it was simply learning about it and then looking at what was happening and making the connections and then reinforcing them.

I have no doubt that many more here are having similar experiences and simply counting them as 3D occurances. 3d is a pancaked reality, which makes discernment harder.

Once you recognize what you are seeing, it becomes easier to peel them apart and study your interactions with more discernment.

I know a few people right here on avalon who are already primarily in the 5th dimension while remaining incarnated here.

We are writing the new rules of existence ourselves. Let's be nice to ourselves. Give ourselves a fun future. think of it like you are writing your own paycheck.

[iainl140285]

The Universe is cyclical.
On the micro and macro level.

On the macro level, we have our solar system.The Earth around the sun etc.

On the micro level, we have the whistle blowers recycling the same stories with their own twist. The whistleblowers =



Well done myplanet for realising this and breaking the cycle