A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time.

[Ammit]

I have to be honest and say, I have self trained in bushcraft and survival techniques, christ years ago I was trained in guerilla warfare techniques.
I can grab one of 2 bags ( grab bags ) at anytime and I can go, anywhere.

One is good for 3 days and one for 8 days without any other additions except water. And I would survive, I have done it in tests.

What worries me about the future is not where food or water is coming from for my family as I can foridge that but, outside inteference. I know people will panic, with panic, comes fear, with fear comes selfisness. People will kill for a bottle of water, a bag of food or even for the rights of your new cave dwelling.

That is what I fear. I know that in such a situation I will flick a switch and go combat mode to protect what I have.

It frightens me...

[Swanny]

Ammit I feel the same as you
I'm more frightened of what other people will do and what I will do to them if they try to interfere with me or my loved ones.
Hopefully I will just make myself invisable and keep out of their way.

[joe2288]

yes the END GAME is deffinitly near this thankksgiving my whole family was

talkin about the economy and how bad it is i deff heard the depression word

being tossed around a bunch of times i think it is becoming clear to everyone

both us and the ones still asleep something is deff going wrong i plan on

starting to prepare a simple survival book n decent tools could halp ne1 i

suggest other people do the same

good luck

If you stand by this info 100% and you are just not trying to get attention or spread fear then put your membership on the line. If nothing happens this was pointless fear, spread for nothing and you should bow out and leave avalon. Then if you are willing to do that , I will believe you , if not , then your weak.

One

Honor is all one really has in the end

[Carol]

Jim Mars said, "Hope for the best and plan for the worst." I think those are wise words to live by.

I've gone through this type of preparing situation before with Y2K and it was a bust.. meaning the infrastructre stayed intact but that was after thousands of hours of other peofessionals working on the situation.

We know without a shawdow of a doubt that this planet is in the process of crossing the galactic plane. Are you aware that there are radio signals in structured patterns coming from its center?

I too wonder and hope for the best. If we didn't have a 12 year old we would do nothing and just enjoy each day as it comes.. but for me personally I'm happiest when working on projects around the house. So planning to go off grid next summer is not something I would look forward to however, I would also enjoy a simplier lifestyle as well. A lifestyle more connected to the earth. So working on puting in an underground structure and an aquaponics system appeals to me at a basic level.

I also enjoy the challenge and the commradary of fellow friends who are also brainstorming on how to set these systems for the easiest cheapest way as possible. We are into simplifying and streamlining life. I have dreams of white dome homes with skylihgts and gardens with huge indoor-outdoor kitchens and libraries. These inner images are something that has been with me for a long time and push me forward to seek their expression in the world around us.

It's fun researching and sharing data and doing it with like-minded people that are here make it even more exciting.

I'm finalizing the aquaponics family system's material's list now and just making lists. Even that gives order and a sense of accomplishment which is also satisfying as is sharing whatever info comes my way with others on self-sustainability.

[alyscat]

I think this is a bit harsh, One. You can stand by the information you have at hand, and the people who moved might have gotten misinformation from their sources. So, you'd have the person who mentioned their behavior (which would be truth for them) leave the forum? I say not.

And calling names is a bit childish, don't you think? And I doubt very much whether either of the two people who posted information here care whether you believe them or not. They're just trying to share information they've been given. Let those with ears to hear, hear.

Personally, I think we probably all share what in good faith we believe to be true - even those who are trying to disseminate what others consider misinformation - and whether it becomes that way in the end or not depends sometimes on additional information way beyond our capability to either know or manipulate.

Carol's example of Y2K is a perfect example. There was a true danger there - our JIT society would have been in a mell of a hess if the computers had been unable to talk to each other. But BECAUSE we had people who were "fear mongers" IT departments went into overdrive, fixing the issue, and the whole Y2K was a non-event.

So, before any one of us tries to insinuate that someone else is trying to "get attention" or "spread fear" or that they should "leave avalon if it doesn't come to be" maybe we should look at the information and say "does it fit for us?"

If it doesn't, then we should just ignore it. If it does, then we have other choices, as Carol has shown. I find this information dovetails nicely with several other pieces of information I have. Does this mean it's true? Maybe, maybe not. How does it affect me? It means I want to go ahead and have my new home finished BEFORE the end of the summer If it doesn't happen, will I blame the original posters, or think less of them? No. They were sharing their truth as they know it.

Honor can be found in trying to provide our friends with knowledge so that they can protect themselves, if they choose.

alys

Originally Posted by SoulSuspect

If you stand by this info 100% and you are just not trying to get attention or spread fear then put your membership on the line. If nothing happens this was pointless fear, spread for nothing and you should bow out and leave avalon. Then if you are willing to do that , I will believe you , if not , then your weak.

One

Honor is all one really has in the end

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Ammit

I have to be honest and say, I have self trained in bushcraft and survival techniques, christ years ago I was trained in guerilla warfare techniques.
I can grab one of 2 bags ( grab bags ) at anytime and I can go, anywhere.

One is good for 3 days and one for 8 days without any other additions except water. And I would survive, I have done it in tests.

What worries me about the future is not where food or water is coming from for my family as I can foridge that but, outside inteference. I know people will panic, with panic, comes fear, with fear comes selfisness. People will kill for a bottle of water, a bag of food or even for the rights of your new cave dwelling.

That is what I fear. I know that in such a situation I will flick a switch and go combat mode to protect what I have.

It frightens me...

This is my problem too. I will share and run out I'm sure but if they kill me for all of it then so be it. We will just have to let go. Afterall which is better?

[Practitioner]

I just saw this thread re-emerge. I'm not sure why it is making a warning, but not intimating much about what it is. Anyone want to take a stab at the following multiple choice question?

This aforementioned monumental event is related to:

A) increased solar activity, increased seismic activity, tsunamis, even a physical pole shift; in other words, global havoc created by natural disasters

B) social pandemonium, starvation and violence due to failed economies

C) a disease pandemic wiping out large numbers especially in densely populated urban areas

D) an organized military attack (e.g., biological or nuclear) with fallout to nearby regions

* * *

I'm thinking A) is a bit unlikely for 2009, and its effects would be global not regional. So that's out.

I think B) is possible, and warning signs are already appearing.

I don't think anyone would orchestrate C) with the intention of it being regional since it would be just too difficult to control/contain. Also, it couldn't be reliably resolved within a matter of months.

D) is also possible, but I'm not sure who would do it. The so-called radical muslims aren't crazy enough to bring on a world war. Aliens? Nah.

Okay, so I'm going to go with B) social pandemonium due to economic failure, with an outside chance at D), allthewhile hoping that it's E) none of the above.

But why would it be important to go underground? ...Is it to avoid high-speed winds or hungry neighbors who are looking for you?

[henners]

Hey practitioner, last time i spoke to Sol Invictus, he said that in August/September what would happen is a precursor of 2012. The PTB would be testing HAARP and its effects on the climate. Massive winds, earthquakes etc. Underground would be the only salvation. He was quite adamant that this was going to happen and for people in those areas to prepare themselves.
Henry

[piers2210]

Sol also mentioned in another thread that there are various viruses now available which may be released, which would allow the PTB to section off the population into regions eg inside/outside the M25 ring around london. It was laughed at by those on the thread at the time, but i since saw something of this sort mentioned in the Jake Simpson interview.

[Patrish]

I read this thread in its entirity and refreshed it as I hoped there would be more concrete information - infact this was my first post!

It looks like a case of wait and see but make some sensible preperation.

Time lines change if enough people put their minds to it, I think I'll go for that senario. I refuse to let the TPTB put me into a situation of fear. We all carry the power to make a difference

much love

Patrish x

[Waterman]

Wonder what will happen? Whatever it might be, there seems to be something constantly happening. Almost to the point of being numbed by the energy of something "constantly" happening. A mind numbing apathy that creates "the slide", you can see in the eyes. That glazed stare look of absence because no one's home.

HELLO, anyone out there?

And even though diabolical events happen nearly daily like falling dominoes, it seems like this is the dark before the dawn, the breath before the battle. And it may well be, at least from the view I'm getting.

There is a good possibility according to a leading medical doctor and researcher from Baylor School of Medicine that things actually could become quite intense this fall. I wonder if this was why they headed for the hills. We'll know soon enough, unless ooops another Burisch timeline pops up. Whew, a lot to think about.

Check my blog for the interview with that doctor about the flu this fall.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Waterman

Wonder what will happen? Whatever it might be, there seems to be something constantly happening. Almost to the point of being numbed by the energy of something "constantly" happening. A mind numbing apathy that creates "the slide", you can see in the eyes. That glazed stare look of absence because no one's home.

HELLO, anyone out there?

I can't remember his name but he is Hopi and was giving a talk. I have to admit to putting a lot more credence into what the Hopi Elders say then the myriad "seers". "channelers" etc that are currently out there feeding us this dearth of mind-numbing and physically paralysing "info".
Back to the point. He was explaining the changes that must come about and how people will be running for cover, crying out to their gods for salvation etc etc... The point I want to share of what he had to say which really was in tune with how I feel is this. "If your heart is right, if your spirit is right with all that is around you, nothing will harm you. You will have the protection you need. You will be in the right place at the right time even if it is in the middle of a major conflagration. You will have nothing to fear."
Those were not the exact words, but definitely on those lines. I will look for the video and post the link.
The only advice I have is forget the caves, forget the running, yes stock up on water and food - that is common sense - look within and see where you are at in your spirit.
Oh yes, get that book out the library by Ekkard Toll, The New Earth and read that. The best thing you can possibly do right now is to work on your vibrational levels, and check if you are in tune or not. Is your ego master or are you connecting with spirit?
Finally, remember we fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers seated in high places (Ego ?). The only way to fight back is to be spiritually connected. Another tip is to stop reading all of this negative stuff and to start being positive. Let the rats run, be aware that you are safe wherever you are. What is the worst that can happen? Nothing, because then you are not liberated from this heavy density existence. Personally, I look forward to "going home" and being free of this decaying form I currently reside in. DO NOT ALLOW FEAR IN !!! That is so important. We are not meant to fear, we are meant to be free entities but we allow manipulation to blind us....that's for a different post.

Cheers

Z

[TheChosen]

It's been so quiet lately. The financial crisis has entered an illusionary recovery, many seem to have fallen asleep again and go on with their daily routines like nothing is going on.

Is it just me or something doesn't feel right AT ALL. I've been getting doomsday scenarios in my dreams and astral like never before and yet here on the physical everything seems fine. It is somehow too quiet... something is wrong and I don't know what it is.

[Waterman]

If you are serious I have found out about three groups in the southwestern part of Colorado that are preparing by building sustainable communities.

One of them has a contact that posts on this forum. If you are interested just let me know.

[Unified Serenity]

Is anyone in N. Florida, Georgia or North Carolina who is involved in sustainable communities? We have been stocking up, and this may be just a precursor to the major stuff coming in the next couple of years, but I definately feel that September is very important, but for different spiritual reasons which I won't go into. I highly resonate that the most important thing is to be focused on attunement to the highest vibrational love you can manage, DO NOT fear, and to wisely have at least 2 to 3 months of food, water preparations, and at least 6 months of medicine you may need.

[burgundia]

The last message of the late pope John Paul II to humanity was : Do not fear....

[henners]

Hey Zeddo, this is the Hopi Prophecy you were referring to.

Hopi Blue Star Blue Kachina Prophecy

An ancient Hopi Indian prophecy states, “When the blue star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge”. This will be the Day of Purification. The Hopi name for the star Sirius is Blue Star Kachina. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask.

“In the final days we will look up in our heavens and we will witness the return of two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole, and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South Pole. In the final days the Blue Star Kachina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clockwise. (1)

This fact is evidenced in many petroglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been manipulated by not so benevolent Starbeings. The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas (2), or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.


The return of the Blue Star Kachina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and a new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.

Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier, The Red Kachina who will bring the Day of Purification . On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.


The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. ( Crop circles have been found im ice ) From the Purifier will rise forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing.

Those who return to the ways given to us in the original teachings, and live a natural way of life will not be touched by the coming of the Purifier. They will survive and build the new world. Only in the ancient teachings will the ability to understand the messages be found.

It is important to understand that these messages will be found upon every living thing, even within our bodies,( our DNA ?) even within a drop of our blood. All life forms will receive the messages from the twins…. Those that fly, the plants, even the rabbit. The appearance of the twins begins a period of seven years will be our final opportunity to change our ways. Everything we experience is all a matter of choice. Many will appear to have lost their souls in these final days. So intense will nature the of the changes be that those who are weak in spiritual awareness will go insane, for we are nothing without spirit. They will disappear, for they are just hollow vessels for any thing to use. Life will be so.

Only those who return to the values of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind. For in the Earth we shall find relief from the madness that will be all around us. It will be a very hard time for women with children for they will be shunned, and many of the children in these times will be unnatural. Some being from the Stars (starseeds) some from past worlds, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be soulless (super soldiers perhaps).(3)
Many of people in this time will be empty in Spirit they will have Sampacu. No life force in their eyes.

As we get close to the time of arrival of the Purifier there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities, through canyons they will have constructed in their man made mountains. Those that walk through these places will be very heavy in their walk, it will appear almost painful as they take each step for they will be disconnected from their spirit and the Earth. After the arrival of the twins, they will begin to vanish before your eyes like so much smoke. Others will have great deformities, both in the mind and upon their bodies. There will be those who would walk in the body that are not from this reality, for many of the gateways that once protected us will be opened, there will be much confusion. Confusion between sexes, and children and their elders.

Life will get very perverted, and there will be little social order, in these times many will ask for the mountains themselves to fall upon them just to end their misery. Still others will appear as if untouched by what is occurring. The ones who remember the original teachings and have reconnected their hearts and spirit. Those who remember who their mother and father is. The Pahana who have left to live in the mountains and forest. When the Purifier comes we will see him first as a small Red Star which will come very close and sit in ourheavens watching us. Watching us to see how well we have remembered the sacred teachings. This Purifier will show us many miraculous signs in our heavens. (hopefully not project bluebeam) In this way we will know Creator is not a dream. Even those who do not feel their connection to spirit will see the face of creator across the sky. Things unseen will be felt very strongly.

Many things will begin to occur that will not make sense, for reality will be shifting back. We will receive many warnings allowing us to change our ways from below the Earth as well as above. The one morning in a moment, we will awaken to the Red Dawn.

The sky will be the colour of blood, (sol's thread talked about this very thing) many things will then begin to happen that right now we are not sure of their exact nature. For much of reality will not be as it is now. There will be many strange beasts upon the Earth in those days, some from the past and some that we have never seen…. The nature of mankind will appear strange in these times we walk between worlds and we will house many spirits even within our bodies, after a time we will again walk with our brothers from the Stars, and rebuild this Earth, but not until the Purifier has left his mark upon the Universe.

Nothing living will be untouched , here or in the heavens. The way through this time it is said is to be found in our hearts, and reuniting with our spiritual self. Getting simple and returning to living with and upon the Earth and in harmony with her creatures. Remember that we are the caretakers, the fire keepers of the Spirit. Our relatives from the star are coming home to see how well we have faired in our journey.

May 20 2003,
Recently a new Red Star was discovered while a blue comet is already in the sky, 7 years after comet Hale-Bopp disappeared.

CONSIDER; Acts 2:20 “ The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord Comes:”

May 31, 2003 In fullfilment of prophecy, the sun appeared over the middle east and Europe as a “sackcloth of ashes” and “refused to give her light” in a rare “annular” or ring of fire” eclipse .
It seems the final Traditional Hopi and Holy Bible prophecy cycle of destruction has finally begun!

The most recent Hopi Prophecy updates from their elders

“While we can see still see the Twins, the comet up there with the two tails (Hale-Bopp).. …. In the sky, we still have time to change our patterns, and change our ways. When we no longer see it in the sky it will be the sign that we have very little time left…….perhaps 18 months or less before the Purifier returns. The Purifier will appear as the Red Kachina, maybe that means it will appear red in the telescopes that the scientists use. It will remain almost in one place for a long time. Like an eye watching us.

(1) This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions.
(2) some of them made a patuwvota (shield made of hide) and with their creative power made it fly through the air. On this many of the people flew to a big city, attacked it, and returned so fast no one knew where they came from. Soon the people of many cities and countries were making patuwvotas and flying on them to attack one another. So corruption and war came to the Third World as it had to the others.
(3) Supersoldiers are usually heavily augmented, either through eugenics , genetic engineering, cybernetic implants implants, drugs, brainwashing, an extreme training regime (usually with high casualty rates, and often starting from birth or a young age), or other scientific and pseudoscientific means,like mind upload or a combination of any of those.

Now, i'll leave this for you to ponder. There is lots of info out there about previous civilisations, and for those who think that we were the first, you are kidding your self. Following, i will present some more info on what has been discovered.
Henry

[elsinorelore]

Woe!!! Thanks very much for this Henners!

[Zeddo]

Great post thanks Henners !!!

[mntruthseeker]

Well, I survive living on oxygen so without power I am a goner for sure.

I am leaving this in Gods hands and will not fear what he has in plan for me.

I also think that going underground is not the answer no matter how they fixed it up. I have no compassion for any of those that have the "ticket" to move underground in their hands. The rest of us have greater plans in the world we will be entering.

[mudra]

Watch these tapes guys they give a lot of insight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtsOc0E9WbQ

This comes from this thread started by mu2143
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7670

kindness
mudra

[Tez]

Originally Posted by mudra

Watch these tapes guys they give a lot of insight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtsOc0E9WbQ

This comes from this thread started by mu2143
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7670

kindness
mudra

Hi Mudra, yes i listened to the audio tonight, they were very interesting, very.

[piers2210]

I quit Dubai last month after many years living there because i had a vision, which has recurred several times, and was also a vision a friend of mine had when they visited me there in May this year, that the Emirates Towers and other high structures would be buried half way up with sand....it freaked me out, but i had felt it was time to leave anyway.....Dubai is full of lost souls now.

[bossyroofer]

I wonder how many of us are reciveing hologrphic dreams about this event?
I live in duchesne,utah-usa, I have been reciveing for the past three months that a warning will be given in our minds to go to high ground!! 2-3 times a week, I live around 6200 feet above sea level.
What I see is a large dark mass over 5 kilometers strikeing around the island chain that runs from alaska towards russia, impacting towards japan.
what ever is sending this message calls it the big splash!
I have ten acres and I am prepareing and I will be listening carefuly.
blessings to those who hear.