Someone explain me where the "down" children fits in the "ascension" theories please

[brutus35]

Good stimulating discussion,
I just wanted to reiterate here, that the energy consciousness that is reincarnating as a human being is a very small, if not the smallest part of the total energy consciousness of that soul. The greater part or parts of that energy consciousness exist elswhere in pure and total light. The only reason why the energy counciousness incarnates into this earthly plane is to convert or transform that part of self that is still in darkness i.e denial, into light. When that happens the reincarnation process stops and the energy conciousness is re-united or remerged with their higher self again, in pure light.
All energy consciousness incarnating on the earthly plane in any manner of physicality whatsoever, do so completely and unequivocally by ther own choosing for their divine purpose and ultimate enlightment.
We are not to be sorry for or empathise necessary for these souls, for doing so normally detracts from the message they are here to deliver or love that they are here to teach. Just accept them in love for who they are, and let them live their lives.:
That is universal and divine law, and canot be usurped, only understood.

[Dusty Nothing]

Seriously no dig at downs people here, I used to be friends with one called Nathan when I was at school, he'd tell me about his holidays that he's been going on and described very well what he had expierienced. But I just can't agree with them being more spiritually advanced than us, more totally the same as us. I say this because a very long time I witnessed someone be randomly attacked by a downs child, I knew the person and she wasn't doing anything wrong, of course we weren't mad at the kid it just shook her up quite alot, I don't know, maybe there's a lesson to be learnt in that. They do make me happy though, their ability to not worry about all the **** that us 'logical' humans do, very innocent, free beings.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

my thought:

down syndrome/mentally handicapped = a 'bye' life in terms of ascension/spiritual growth.


i agree wholeheartedly with ghglenn: "theyre here to help others grow.''

[iamhearing]

Originally Posted by macrostheblack

the human with disability promotes love and kindness which rubs off on all. Those who cannot deal with it fear the disabled human spirit for the inability or disability in them selves prevents the same feeling of love and kindness.

We are shown before this life the best path to promote our own growth even if it means a hard life. Both good and bad people in past lifes may find they benefit more by occupying a body with limitaions next time.

we all have some form of disabilty and many that are not visual are far worse to live with.

The cause of such conditions is partly due to our own experimentation with chemicals that are hoped to cure future generatons. I have also read that et abuction experiment causes this too. If et does use us and then discard their mistakes to a life of suffering limitations one must ponder on who our friends really are out there and then act with caution. Are we a farm?

Macros

Dear Macros, I would have to dissagree with your last paragrph...

"The cause of such conditions is partly due to our own experimentation with chemicals that are hope to cure future generations. I have also read that et abduction experiment causes this too. If et does use us then discard their mistakes to a life of suffering limitations one must onder on who our friends really are out there and then act in caution. Are we the farm."


This in my sons case is not correct at all. My son does not suffer a genetic dissability. My son was a healthy baby boy within my womb until the doctors were concerned about my bloodpreasure after a prolonged labour, they then introduced a drug called oxyseratocinin which was used to speed up my contractions, albeit caused the child to go into distress and pass a bowel motion called marconium, which inturn suffocated the child who then had to be ressusitated.

So ultimately it was human error and yes humans playing God with synthetic man made drugs, but they knew no better this is how the system works ( or doesnt!!) an unfortunate accident.

When one sees one with a dissability there are many factors that can cause such, i.e genetic factors, vaccines, an unfortunate accident i.e Christopher Reeves (Superman).

Ultimately whatever reason friends, yes they are teachers ( even the naghty ones).

Would'nt life be dull if we were all the same, what would we have then to learn?

Many thanks

[macrostheblack]

Originally Posted by iamhearing

Dear Macros, I would have to dissagree with your last paragrph...

"The cause of such conditions is partly due to our own experimentation with chemicals that are hope to cure future generations. I have also read that et abduction experiment causes this too. If et does use us then discard their mistakes to a life of suffering limitations one must onder on who our friends really are out there and then act in caution. Are we the farm."


This in my sons case is not correct at all. My son does not suffer a genetic dissability. My son was a healthy baby boy within my womb until the doctors were concerned about my bloodpreasure after a prolonged labour, they then introduced a drug called oxyseratocinin which was used to speed up my contractions, albeit caused the child to go into distress and pass a bowel motion called marconium, which inturn suffocated the child who then had to be ressusitated.

So ultimately it was human error and yes humans playing God with synthetic man made drugs, but they knew no better this is how the system works ( or doesnt!!) an unfortunate accident.

When one sees one with a dissability there are many factors that can cause such, i.e genetic factors, vaccines, an unfortunate accident i.e Christopher Reeves (Superman).

Ultimately whatever reason friends, yes they are teachers ( even the naghty ones).

Would'nt life be dull if we were all the same, what would we have then to learn?

Many thanks

Thank you for your reply.

My addition to this thread was brief due to the time. Yes you are correct and i am aware of such aspects as accidents, genetic defects, family histories of certain illness etc.

Any being created with a soul as a universal right to life regardless of its make up. The ufo addition came from a Russian contactee way back in the early 90s that i recall reading about. She spoke of the mysterious et agenda. Cutting the story short here she talked of good and bad guys out there that have the same intentions with slightly different methods employed. The good nuture and correct for positive growth within the being. The bad do the same with selfish goals in mind - often messing with the work of the good guys. Which can result in a corrupted being developing somewhere along the family line in the near or distant future. Because this being carries a soul of god/the creator the ets abide by the universal law. The baddies often interfere just to cause chaos and this results in some people being born with minor-severe disability.

I did not intent to offend anyone here. If I have then please accept my apology.

Macros

[iamhearing]

Originally Posted by macrostheblack

Thank you for your reply.

My addition to this thread was brief due to the time. Yes you are correct and i am aware of such aspects as accidents, genetic defects, family histories of certain illness etc.

Any being created with a soul as a universal right to life regardless of its make up. The ufo addition came from a Russian contactee way back in the early 90s that i recall reading about. She spoke of the mysterious et agenda. Cutting the story short here she talked of good and bad guys out there that have the same intentions with slightly different methods employed. The good nuture and correct for positive growth within the being. The bad do the same with selfish goals in mind - often messing with the work of the good guys. Which can result in a corrupted being developing somewhere along the family line in the near or distant future. Because this being carries a soul of god/the creator the ets abide by the universal law. The baddies often interfere just to cause chaos and this results in some people being born with minor-severe disability.

I did not intent to offend anyone here. If I have then please accept my apology.

Macros

My friend you didnt offend what so ever, interesting theory about the Et agenda, many including humans have tampered with nature and still do.
Either way its how one deals with lifes set backs, one can look at the negative or choose the positive, i personally choose the positive.

If we didnt discuss we'd never learn, so no worries at all friend.

Namaste

[macrostheblack]

Hi there IAMLISTENING good to know we are friends.

The et thing to me seems to represent an order of growth almost like a school in which you are guided but need to put in the effort. The good guys number many in various levels of evolution. They all contribute a speck of their wisdom upon humanity - be it influence, guidence or correction of the body we use. Some may say, "why dont they just appear and land?". This question to me is simply answered with - the bad guys would follow suit not wishing to miss out or lose their subjects with whom they violate.

So naturally, the only way to help is to encourage the human to evolve in a positive direction whilst they remain hidden. When the mind is clear and balanced then new doors open and weaken the bad ets attachment. Again, I strongly feel that both sides of the et coin can only exist here and effect other life as long as they respect the univeral law of free will. If the human mind evolves - so the bad et can no longer intervene and abuse. The baddie must let go of us out of respect.

Macros

Originally Posted by Ashatav

If we are here to evolve and not experience whatever we need to experience how a "down", litlle children who dies, poor children who aren't educated, etc. evolve into the differents densities, etc?


The "down" children in "other reincarnations" where evil geniouses so they deserves they condition? we reincarnate forever? so... G O D repeat himself??


Really, I don't know and will be glad to read some ascension theories.


Cheerzo

You have alot of agreeable responses made to your question! If i may add, you are here to learn your lesson, whatever it maybe, then move on or graduate to the next level. It is a tough journey we have. You have to burn out all of your ego, desires and have complete compassion for all, unconditional love. Service to others above yourself.