Why I feel Obama is for Real

[KassandraLoves]

Originally Posted by btsumm

Greetings brothers and sisters of light...

I writing to you for a very special purpose...

The election of Obama will be what WE make it...

Please realize that your view of the situation has a direct influence on the out come...

So if you see Obama's Presidency as negative, then that is what you will experience...

BUT! If you just think...or better yet, DREAM!!!

Dream of a future where all mankind are united in Oneness and understanding...that WE make this reality...

WE MAKE OUR OWN HAPPINESS
WE MAKE OUR OWN DREAMS
WE MAKE OUR OWN LOVE
WE ARE LOVE

Awaken to reality my friends...awaken to the fact that you too are a being of light and your joy...your love...your eternal happiness is just a thought away...

Much love,
Brian

....and THAT is why brian rocks.

[Truthsayer]

http://www.nesara.us/pages/deathbed_confession.htm

According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.”

[Mark]

777, I can believe that they migt try that also - nothing shocks me now...

[love and gratitude]

OBAMA LOVERS - Do your fu.......ing homework. There is enough material on him to sink a battle ship. The people he chose should tell you something - Rahn Israel was in the Clinton regime. At the Clinton inaugrial ceremony after dinner party when Bill was celebrating, Rahn picked up a knife and read out a list of names of all the people who were Bill Clinton enemies. With each name is stabbed the table and shouted DEAD. After he was finished reading the list the table looked like a moon scape. This piece of information was from a Rolling Stone article. This guy is a phychopath. There is nothing from his new cabinet that spells change, except LOOSE CHANGE.
Sorry guys, WAKE UP DO YOUR HOMEWORK OBAMA LOVERS. I know you want things to change for the better but you have been duped once again. Research.

[Dean Plejaren]

I can understand this feeling of Obama being unique and having some kind of special ability. That was the entire point of the campaign. They know people are waking up so they do a trick. The put a slogan "change you can believe in". That's why they put a black person. To make it different.

This made people think you could believe in it. That it was real. I'm telling you for sure they are tricking you again. Not until you stop believing in politics and the system itself will you change it.

[Truthsayer]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

I can understand this feeling of Obama being unique and having some kind of special ability. That was the entire point of the campaign. They know people are waking up so they do a trick. The put a slogan "change you can believe in". That's why they put a black person. To make it different.

This made people think you could believe in it. That it was real. I'm telling you for sure they are tricking you again. Not until you stop believing in politics and the system itself will you change it.

Dean.

At this moment in time, there is a civil war going on right now in the US government, Military and Alphabet Agencies.

Which side Obama really is, we can only tell 4 years later.

But mark my words, There is a hidden civil war right now and all of us have better pray for the Good Guys.

[Dean Plejaren]

Even if it is a civil war it does not mean Obama is the solution. I can tell you with certaintly he has even less power than you and me. The only reason it appears different is because his funding and how he is allowed. If he did something not appealing it will be clear who has the power. Rememer Kennedy he tried to warn people how dangerous this influence had become. The real control is elsewhere. Same with bush. He was allowed to be an idiot. That's why they choose him. The leaders don't know what they are doing. They are like pawns.

[Truthsayer]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

Even if it is a civil war it does not mean Obama is the solution. I can tell you with certaintly he has even less power than you and me. The only reason it appears different is because his funding and how he is allowed. If he did something not appealing it will be clear who has the power. Rememer Kennedy he tried to warn people how dangerous this influence had become. The real control is elsewhere. Same with bush. He was allowed to be an idiot. That's why they choose him. The leaders don't know what they are doing. They are like pawns.

I have never said Obama is the solution but he can be part of the solution.

I can feel what type of situation he is in.

Yes it is true the leaders have been pawns but perhaps it is time for the pawns to take down the kings and queens.

I have started a thread where everyone is invited to send positive energies of change to the presidency to influence Obama to overthrow the PTB.

Please allow me to post the link here, Dean, in my reply to you.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7013

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Truthsayer

Dean.
But mark my words, There is a hidden civil war right now and all of us have better pray for the Good Guys.

The problem is that we don't even know who's on our side and who isn't. I don't think I've ever known this either. Who do we pray for without knowing the consequences of such an action?

[Truthsayer]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

The problem is that we don't even know who's on our side and who isn't. I don't think I've ever known this either. Who do we pray for without knowing the consequences of such an action?

You know, there are plenty of those working for the dark side now who are thinking of breaking away.

As I said before, don't assume everyone is completely white or black.

Even the worms of darkness in here spreading their lies have some goodness in their heart.

All we need to do is to just keep focussing on the thought that the good guys will win the war against the dark ones.

Or visualize an image where the good guys will win the hidden civil war against the dark ones.

You dun have to know who the good guys are or even know their faces.

It is the focussed energy on the concept of the good guys winning the war which will help create a positive timeline.

I recommend everyone to focus on this mantra, "Obama Overthrow PTB"

SHort and sweet.

[Dean Plejaren]

perhaps it is time for the pawns to take down the kings and queens

They can only move one square at a time. The only way is to understand the positions. You don't win chess by praying and hoping and getting other peices to pray for other pieces. You win by making your team go in the best position. Put your hope in strategy instead.

[Truthsayer]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

They can only move one square at a time. The only way is to understand the positions. You don't win chess by praying and hoping and getting other peices to pray for other pieces. You win by making your team go in the best position. Put your hope in strategy instead.

Well, Dean.

I consider it a major blessing that Real Life is not played like a game of Chess then.

In Real Life, the pawns can move as far as the kings and queens.

Infact, depending on what you are talking about, the pawns might move even further and faster than the kings and queens.

Since we are on the sidelines being the spectators, we can only add in our positive energy of benevolent change.

Trust me, this positive energy which each and every one is sending out will be critical to the good guys in the civil war.

Peace.

[Dean Plejaren]

There is more positive energy in one flower than there is in a thousand years of praying. You have to use the things around you and know the rules of the game to be the most effective.

Life is exactly like chess. The pawns are the 8 senses of perception. The castles the body. The horses the vitality. The bishops the emotions. The king the consious mind and the queen the manifestations of nature.

[Frank Samuel]

Yes there's a war going on, politics and politicians are just playing their games and we are stuck right in the middle of it. The worst part is that there's so many innocent by standers getting killed in the process. Be awake, move with caution, protect your loved ones, create groups to survive in case of extreme emergencies. Even if Obama has good intentions the odds are stack against him, the time for words is over it is time for the nitty gritty, the nuts and bolts aproach. Thus far the man is moving in the right direction, after Jan. 20 the real work begins in the white house. Once in a while there comes a politician who at least tries to stir in the right direction without falling down the rabbit hole. I do not envy this man one bit, may he have the courage to stand up to the RPTB, if not he will become just another bozo in the white house.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

This made people think you could believe in it. That it was real. I'm telling you for sure they are tricking you again. Not until you stop believing in politics and the system itself will you change it.

As I have said in other threads, some of us are in our last throes in regards to our belief in the system and/or politics.

For me personally, it's a 10 year journey from being a wanna-be socialist (complete with a library full of Chomsky/Zinn/Marx) to trying to understand politics in general.

It's just that the more I learn, the more I question myself and that's a good thing. If there's anything positive from threads like this, it's that they make me second-guess some of my decisions. That's a good thing.

[371]

They way I see it Obama has three choices:
1. Bow to his PTB overlords
2. Do what's 'right' and get assasinated, become a martyr (ala JFK, MLK, Medgar Evers)
3. Try to play both sides of the fence.

I think number three is by far the most likeley. Though I think there is a possibility that he may be 'martyred' regardless as a means to lead into martial law.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by Truthsayer

He is the first leader to have asked for unity between the races, between left and right..

You clearly don't know much of the world.

US politics is divisive, and even if the official speeches of Obama talked about unity, his minions attacked anybody who disagreed with him accusing them of racism or worse.

[Truthsayer]

Time will prove anything.

We shall see who Obama really is.

Tptb Have chosen obama for a few reasons in my opinion.

1- Think about what would happen if obama gets assassinated ...
I think there would be mass riots and thats all they need to place
the US in the martial law scenario.

2- They also prefer a black person to a white one to announce the
bankrupcy of the US monetary system.

I am hoping for the best though.

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by Truthsayer

He is the first leader to have asked for unity between the races, between left and right..

Wow.

I guess I missed that the first time.

Are you serious, or is this some sort of metaphor for something else?

Because if you are serious, then I'm pretty sure I could drum up a few thousand examples of "leaders asking for unity between the races, between left and right..."

It is all they friggin talk about man. All of them. It's what you want to hear. And have you seen it yet?

I do admire your faith, but, "I beseech you in the bowels of christ, think it possible you may be mistaken."


Faith is good to have in your friends and family because you know them and have had interactions from which they gained your faith. I have faith in my parents, my siblings, and many of my friends, but only beacuse I truly know them.
I defy anyone here to vome foreward who has any personal interactions w/ Obama.
Until then we can only form opinions based on his public actions, which imo do not warant blind faith.

You must have a decent bullsh*t detector if you have found your way here to Avalon, so do your homework and fire up the old bullsh*t detector. Obama should really set it off.

What has changed for me is my ideas about the people who voted for Obama. I am overjoyed to see so many who want to see not just change but a better way, but Obama has only offered "change" thus far.

When he diverts from the status quo, addresses all the legit concerns I mentioned, and then offers a plan real change, then I will jump on your bandwagon full force. But I realise that is a very tall order fro any politician.

I'm sorry that I have been somewhat aggressive here, but I am so wary of the repercussions of politicians that have the ability to elicit blind faith, no matter what they look like.

[Kundaflower]

Hello you all...

Those of you who know Webster Tarpley (and why not others too) look what he had say about Obama and men behind him....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KJC...eature=related

kf...

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Kundaflower

Hello you all...

Those of you who know Webster Tarpley (and why not others too) look what he had say about Obama and men behind him....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KJC...eature=related

kf...

So, with Obama in office the hotspot will be Pakistan, Russia, China.

Obama is a Leo/Ox and so was Napoleon. There have been charges that he is bisexual and smokes crack/cocaine and I would like to know the truth.

[Myra]

Originally Posted by Kundaflower

Hello you all...

Those of you who know Webster Tarpley (and why not others too) look what he had say about Obama and men behind him....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KJC...eature=related

kf...

YIKES!

[trainedobserver]

>...because he is black and the PTB are predominately white.

That is an illusion my friend. Do not buy into it. Think clearly about this issue.

Obama is in fact multiracial with 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. His father is a Luo Kenyan reported to be 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% Black. Even if Obama's father were 100% Black it would still leave him 50% Caucasian.

What race is Mr. Obama? He is of mixed race. His racial identity is ARBITRARY. His outward appearance reflects that fact. He CHOOSES to identify with the portion of genetic material he got from his father. He CHOOSES to do so for political and cultural REASONs that he feels benefits himself.

Contemplate these facts and realize what is actually going on in this matter of "ethnicity".

It is my sincere hope that Obama becomes a good president. We need one badly. He is however a flawed human being surrounded by other flawed human beings. The complexity of human society has increased to such an extent as to be considered to be a runaway train. Deep down I realize it it does matter who is at the controls even if our course and speed are beyond our sphere of influence, however I recognize that the "PTB" own Obama as much as they owned the Bushes, Clinton, Reagon, Carter, Ford, Nixon, and LBJ.

I think the expectations of Obama expressed by some are terribly unrealistic and will be have to either adjusted or they will suffer great disappointment in the months ahead.

>He is the first leader to have asked for unity between the races, between left and right..

That is an uninformed statment. Please google The Civil Rights Movement. Study the Civil Rights Movement in the United States. Look up what John and Bobby Kennedy were doing in that arena. Obama is hardly the first nor will he be the last.

[Swinging Green Tablet]

How could a man talking of war ever have CHANGE for the better?!

It's a CHAIN that one day will be broken...