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Old 10-29-2008, 12:29 AM   #1
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Can you 'please explain' about that quote of what you said. Sorry, I am just wondering why.
You mentioned freedom of speech and I was referring to the situation in some countries where it doesn't pay to voice your opinion of the government in public - particularly if that opinion is negative. The most recent example was (and possibly still is) Zimbabwe.
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:37 AM   #2
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i liked oz and i could disappear into the woodwork pretty easy. but when the economy collapses jobs will be scrace and foreigners/illeglas get the boot ??? i nearly stayed when i was there last year. something made me comeback to the uk tho.. it was to find out about the new world order and its diabolical plans which up until that pointy i knew very little of
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:40 AM   #3
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You mentioned freedom of speech and I was referring to the situation in some countries where it doesn't pay to voice your opinion of the government in public - particularly if that opinion is negative. The most recent example was (and possibly still is) Zimbabwe.
soon to be uk,oz,nz,usa,euro
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:52 AM   #4
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That's the scary part of all this. What will happen first - martial law being announced publicly, or people just disappearing?
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:04 AM   #5
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It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up.


Gordon, if your gonna go underground maybe Pauline will be good company (please explain?).
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:12 AM   #6
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It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up.

The thought that springs to mind is that life is one giant game of lotto and we each are born with a number. When our own particular number is drawn out of the barrel, that is our ticket to escape this mess we are in. We can only hope it's not a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire."
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:01 PM   #7
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It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up.
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Tuza, You hit the nail on the head in one eloquent sentence

I live in Melbourne now with an alternate unplanned place in central vic to retreat to but in reality no one knows what the ultimate scenario will be. In saying so we have one fact and that is that humans are running a muck on this great energy ball known as earth with little care. Australia has been so damaged by the Banker System in an environmental sense its damn sad.


As Tuza said "It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up."

Stop worrying about ppl have this or that, it doesn't matter.... Its just a ride

Love and all the best!

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Old 10-29-2008, 01:29 PM   #8
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That's the scary part of all this. What will happen first - martial law being announced publicly, or people just disappearing?
IN THE Usa IT WILL BE RED LIST REMOVALS..europe and rest of world will get silly laws made to arrest them.. i kinda had a preminition that the uk would be like 28 days later style.. not many left after nuke war.. like safer to be in the eye of the storm.. no one will look at the uk to find survivors when it has been devastated.. figured those in the know if we are lucky to survive it can kinda mad max it about or "i am legend " style..
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:29 PM   #9
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Australia is a nice country.
Australian are nice people.
So nice, they had to close the door.
Nobody can get in, unless...

You don't stay to long.
You bring a lot of money.
You have some precious expertise.
You mary someone over there.

Damn Australians.

How come Kerry & Bill feel the need to relocate.
What do they know that we don't?
Are they more fearful than we are?
Exercise discernment they always say or write.
Just relocating because it's a nice country with nice people?
Or believing some whistleblowers that urge them to move?
Better be save than sorry?
Prepare for the worse, hope for the best?

So far the whistleblowers seem to speak against each other.
How can you decide which one is nearest to the truth?

I'm trying to understand their motivations.
Relocating is not nothing, not a small thing to do.
You must be very convinced.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:08 AM   #10
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Australia is a nice country.
Australian are nice people.
So nice, they had to close the door.
Nobody can get in, unless...

You don't stay to long.
You bring a lot of money.
You have some precious expertise.
You mary someone over there.

Damn Australians.

How come Kerry & Bill feel the need to relocate.
What do they know that we don't?
Are they more fearful than we are?
Exercise discernment they always say or write.
Just relocating because it's a nice country with nice people?
Or believing some whistleblowers that urge them to move?
Better be save than sorry?
Prepare for the worse, hope for the best?

So far the whistleblowers seem to speak against each other.
How can you decide which one is nearest to the truth?

I'm trying to understand their motivations.
Relocating is not nothing, not a small thing to do.
You must be very convinced.

Dude, whenever I see a message from you I picture someone singing it.
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:10 AM   #11
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Dude, whenever I see a message from you I picture someone singing it.
That would be nice. Why not?
Let's all start singing a little more often.
Very efficient therapy to lift up our spirit.
Good idea, Anticomuna

"Anticomuna", you're against community?
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Dude, whenever I see a message from you I picture someone singing it.
Maybe, it's because my english is limited?
It's not my native language.

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Old 10-30-2008, 01:22 PM   #12
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:47 PM   #13
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What's funny is that what is going to happen on earth is more like a controlled demolition.

The controllers of the demolition will make sure that the 'ark' is also destroyed.

Unless, of course, the 'ark' is filled with 1,000 of their own. Hmmm.

Where does one get fuel for a personal nuclear power plant?
Australia supplies Japan, Russia and China (and anyone with the money) with gold cake. We've got tons of the stuff "outback". We have the worlds largest reserves.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf48.html

I wonder what kind of reactor it is because it would be worthwhile in investing in a "meltdown" proof one like the German "pebble-bed" design reactor. There is a working model in China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1854362.htm

...Although it would be infinitely better to get off the uranium trip altogether.
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:52 PM   #14
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:06 PM   #15
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Are you saying that I can just call someone in Australia, wire them a little cash and they'll fed-ex me some enriched uranium so I can build a nuclear power plant in my back yard?

Think.
No, that was a casual reply, I didn't realize that you had something so specific in mind. So, what do you think or are thinking of? Please, enlighten me about your conspiracy.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:10 PM   #16
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Are you saying that I can just call someone in Australia, wire them a little cash and they'll fed-ex me some enriched uranium so I can build a nuclear power plant in my back yard?
Kevin07 wouldn't care which country is buying that stuff... I'm sure if a country paid enough $$$ Kevin07 would do just about anything! I mean just about _anything_ for more $$$. Pauline Hanson would of made a better (Prime Minister - President) then Kevin07. Atleast she couldn't make things any worse then what is already happening.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:24 PM   #18
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Not to mention the refinement, processing, etc.
and all the water to cool the plant... And the expertise to maintain and operate it. The list goes on.

Confusion, but that is to be expected here.

What are you guys hoping for?

Bill and Kerry came out and made a statement which they felt good about, you are no different to them, as am I or any other piece of matter in this univerese.

Bill and Kerry have served in waking people up along with their interviewee's. It doesn't matter what their financial situation or location may be, just like "you" they will ofc try to find a place which resonates with their being at the present time.

Its not the time to be worrying about what money will buy you to be frank, its about your kind heart... something money cannot buy and never will be able to buy.


Its all OK

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Old 10-29-2008, 03:40 PM   #19
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I am exactly where I am at because that is where I am supposed to be! Like many of you my whole life has been nothing but me going to where my Higher-Self has led me. They are reasons I am here where I am at and if staying where I am at means end of physical existance then I am o.k. with that. I cant speak for nobody but my self. I hope if people do move they do so out of guidance and not out of fear. Love ya Brian
I agree! Feel the same way too ! Thanks for this !
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:48 PM   #20
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Hi All:

Thanks to all who have registered their personal interest. That's a lot of people, and we'll get back to you all soonest. Give us a few days!

A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.

Remember also that every one of us is in a separate life position. Variables include age, skills, health, marriage, children, jobs, relatives, language, nationality, financial assets. All of these come into play in some way or another. It's all a complicated equation, diferent for each of us.

Those with funds are not always the most free.
Those without funds are not always the most limited.

The entire Avalon site is dedicated to providing the maximum amount of information to everyone, whatever their position. Each of us can select whatever we feel is useful or valuable, and apply it to our own individual circumstances.

As a comment to Bleep (hi there! ) - our information comes from a very well-informed source who is in a position to accurately assess certain risks and probabilities.

Nothng to do with fear. The individual spearheading this project is one of the most unafraid people I have ever met. Many people would also not easily label Kerry or myself as afraid.

If I go to Australia, it won't be because of fear: it's because it's a great place to be compared to many others, and if I'm part of this community it'll be because it sounds like a wonderful place to live.

Very best to all, Bill
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Don't look at where I live,




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Old 10-29-2008, 04:52 PM   #22
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...
...it'll be because it sounds like a wonderful place to live.
Very best to all, Bill
I've always known.
Switzerland, ok, but...
Now.
I'm just a jealous guy.

Very best to you too

PS: Better choose the right zone though (meltdown of polar caps)

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Old 10-29-2008, 06:16 PM   #23
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[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;64854]Hi All:



A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.


Like I said "The haves versus the have nots"

I can see it all going wrong, what happened to the idea of small groups?

We all have to be prepared to help one another, to the best of our ability, if things go bad.

If this world were more prepared to help humanity rather than help themselves, we would probably be on a totally different road. I am preparing as best I can, to help wherever I can. I will share my food, heat, light etc. until it runs out and when and if it does..................... accept my fate, as, that is what I feel I am here to do.

How many fingers will you crush in the door to the "underground facility" when the "non-paid up" members of humanity are pleading to come in with you.
You can tell them to stay by the doors and remain positive, but I don't think that will convince them.
What happens when some turn up with guns? are you prepared for that.

I think you get my point, Mad max all over again................. Come to think of it, Was'nt that an Australian film.
Guess I'll keep an eye out for Mad Max 4, "Beyond the Ark" !

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Hi All:

A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.
Like I said "The haves versus the have nots"

I can see it all going wrong, what happened to the idea of small groups?

We all have to be prepared to help one another, to the best of our ability, if things go bad.

If this world were more prepared to help humanity rather than help themselves, we would probably be on a totally different road. I am preparing as best I can, to help wherever I can. I will share my food, heat, light etc. until it runs out and when and if it does..................... accept my fate, as, that is what I feel I am here to do.

How many fingers will you crush in the door to the "underground facility" when the "non-paid up" members of humanity are pleading to come in with you.
You can tell them to stay by the doors and remain positive, but I don't think that will convince them.
What happens when some turn up with guns? are you prepared for that.

I think you get my point, Mad max all over again................. Come to think of it, Was'nt that an Australian film.
Guess I'll keep an eye out for Mad Max 4, "Beyond the Ark" !

Namaste
What a stupid, small-minded, ungenerous and misguided series of remarks.

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I hope it is alive and well, all over the world. We are doing more than most to promote that.

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We all have to be prepared to help one another, to the best of our ability, if things go bad.
We totally agree.

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If this world were more prepared to help humanity rather than help themselves, we would probably be on a totally different road. I am preparing as best I can, to help wherever I can. I will share my food, heat, light etc. until it runs out and when and if it does..................... accept my fate, as, that is what I feel I am here to do.
We salute you for that.

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How many fingers will you crush in the door to the "underground facility" when the "non-paid up" members of humanity are pleading to come in with you.
None.

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Old 10-30-2008, 08:23 AM   #25
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[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;65233]What a stupid, small-minded, ungenerous and misguided series of remarks.



Bill,
I can see this getting in to a "sticks & stones" thing here, I have obviously pushed a few buttons.

Firstly, I salute you for the work that YOU & Kerry do, without reservation.

Secondly, my post was not supposed to be a personal attack, far from it, it was aimed at getting people visiting this forum to THINK SERIOUSLY about the POTENTIAL coming events and be practical about what they are realistically able to achieve, based on their own situation.
As things are now, there are those who only want to take from others and I feel that those who have had the foresight to prepare will run the risk of being mugged by those who have not, by force if neccessary. Or to look at it another way, the French Resistance would not have been able to survive if they had all grouped in one big village.

I wish only the best for you, I hope when you finally decide to settle, that it all works out well for you.
You are an eternal traveller Bill, I think you always will be.

Bon Voyage!
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