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I sent the article to a scientist friend of mine whom I respect, and this is what she sent me: "Here is where she should not have entered in speculation. I know from working at Naval Research center, we did not have, nor did the Nazis have the technology in the 1940s in electronics, metallurgy, and solid fuel advancement for a clean extensive burn, let alone reentry technology.
Mars is impossible as it is to far away and again propulsion to and from, electronics etc. as well as the enormous radioactive surface. In 1940s or even in the 60s, propulsion necessary for an 8 month flight to Mars, propulsion to slow down or be launched into space as you approach Mars, and then the propulsion to leave mars for a 8 months return and then slow down for earth landing. The size of the craft must hold oxygen, water, food, etc for a 2 year journey at current propulsion capabilities. It would have and still is impossible. See http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Smars1.htm. 2 years of weightlessness for the human body is deadly, let alone the stress on the human consciousness." I am not saying she is correct, yet wanted to share her perspective. Of course, she may not have been privy to the secret technologies used by the secret space programs. Last edited by redtailhawk; 02-16-2010 at 07:19 PM. |
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is this not be big enough news to make it to the mainstream media? i know if it's being controlled then they wouldn't want this getting out but this seems like a big story, a presidents granddaughter and all, wouldn't they report it?
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I have tried to get even basic background on this from Laura and Alfred. For example Laura being an Eisenhower. I've not been able to find her name on any Family tree for Eisenhower. When I confronted the both of them on this, Laura said she could produce a birth certificate, but never did and then removed/blocked me on facebook. Alfred said he knew Laura's mother personally, but would not volunteer her mother's name to verify even that small part of her story.
On top of this, her story offers nothing other than information that any could have known before hand. To me the entire article looks like a justification for the apparent abuse Laura has suffered at the hands of men throughout her life. Even in the article trying to explain the abuse she suffered while she was sleeping with "agent x" he blamed it on a microchip inside of him that caused multiple personality disorders. Laura seems delusional, in need of serious mental help. She seems to have latched on to stories she's read from other people, made them her own, and when questioned on the validity of any of it, she gets violent and offensive threatening me with various forms of harm that I dismiss, but the fact remains, she is delusional, and Alfred can not afford for her to be found discredited because it will ruin his own credibility. With the reaction I've gotten from Laura and Alfred I've been searching through website after website reading comment after comment and trying to find any real corroboration with the story other than "her story sounds plausible because it sounds like other stories that Alfred has a vested interest in keeping true". I do not doubt that any of this technology exists, but I doubt any of Laura's involvement on it, and hope she gets help. |
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Ouch! Michael. Pretty harsh statement. Why would she declare she's an Eisenhower if she's not? If that alone proves false, the rest of the story has no credibility at all. To say your a decendent of a President to create credibility..and not be..starts a delusional path from the git-go.
I "wish" you are wrong and she's an Eisenhower. But if theres no verification,how come she's saying it? My brain hurts. |
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I don't know about this girl but she offers services in her website and she is quite expensive A name can be worth a lot of money in this planet where people does not read energy! I think Michael may sound harsh but researching is paramount these days, taking things at face value has not serve the world for what we can observe Love |
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It might sound like a nit picky thing, but the reaction for Alfred and Laura on this topic is destroying the credibility of the rest of it. By the way you can find the Grand-Children of Eisenhower online: http://www.kansasheritage.org/abilene/ikedoud.html Quote:
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If she is credible and has just come out, then she will provide the documentation to prove it. She must do this in order to be taken seriously. However, i took something very valuable from her story regardless of who she is...
As a woman on the planet, her story will resonate for each of us as WE ALL are the daughters and sons of Gaia. ALL. In this way, the story of her journey and the energies that she has been battling to bring herself back into balance with the planet is VERY FAMILIAR and speaks to each one of us on a deeper level. Regardless of who she really is, and her story is beautiful on it's own without her having to say she is related to Ike, it is the story we have all been living to one extreme or another. I found it to be too vague in terms of solid information, but very rich in emotional textures and a descriptive tapestry in terms of its value as the story of a woman finding herself and reconnecting to her source. In so far as Mars, well as one book says... women come from Venus and men come from Mars. I believe her rich understanding of the archetypal and Iconic may have, in this case, gotten the better of her imagination while being in another destructive relationship with a man who has creatively deceived her and has MPD. A any rate, that obvious connection was not lost on me. In truth I felt in the story was directly related to energy, and the use of energy to control people in various ways. Emotionally, as a part of an alien agenda, TPTB... etc. These things I believe DO exist. There is truth in that we must all be aware of how we use our energy and it is good policy as autonomous beings to use our energy in alignment with the Mother Planet. Being a reader of Gnosis myself, I am a fan of Magdelane's message and her gospel. There is a great deal of her in all of us to be sure. From the Heart, Wormhole |
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Susan Eisenhower On Family: Ten Frequently Asked Questions 1. How are you related to President Dwight Eisenhower? I am a granddaughter. 2. Who is your father? My father is John S.D. Eisenhower, a retired army general, former Ambassador to Belgium and military historian, and he was Ike and Mamie Eisenhower’s only surviving child. Their first child was a son named Doud Dwight, who died at the age of three. 3. Who is your mother? Barbara Thompson Eisenhower (now Barbara Foltz). She too came from an Army family. 4. Do you have any siblings? Yes. I am the third of four children. I have an older brother, Dwight David Eisenhower II (David); Barbara Anne (Anne) and a younger sister, Mary Jean (Mary). 5. Do you remember your grandparents? Yes very well. I was almost eighteen years old when my grandfather died and nearly twenty-eight when my grandmother passed away. For many years we lived on a farm adjacent to theirs in Gettysburg Pennsylvania. I rode my grandfather’s horses. 6. Do you have children of your own? Yes. I have three daughters: Caroline, Laura and Amy. |
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After almost a decade of silence, I had another encounter in early December. The control-bots are on the move. We have no choice other than to reach out to the black hats and educate them regarding the BIGGER bigger picture. Mars is not the place to hide. The moon is not the place to hide. The Earth is where Earthlings of intelligence are needed. Then some day... some day very soon, Space Command can go there with the support of the world's free living people and our scientific community. If we keep leaving a legacy of blood on this solar system, there are higher powers in this galaxy that will step in and administer justice, swift and sure. I'm very excited about Laura's interview. I come from a similar family (though not nearly as famous as the Eisenhower's). There are reforms that need to be put in motion. Disclosure needs to go far beyond just having CNN saying, "The President said today that UFOs are real. And in other news, Lady Gaga changed her hair color...." I'm going to try to sleep as best I can tonight. It won't be easy. I'm all worked up now! Till next time, hang tight, Avalonites! Paul |
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Thanks for the Vidoes guys...very interesting...
BOY HAVE WE BEEN KEPT IN THE DARK......it just gets deeeeeeeper!! GRRRRRRRRRRR...Makes you MAD!! ![]() Who do they think they are!!!!! viking |
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I understand the frustration felt by our Humble janitor..
Be aware though... The black suits are not the only ones with secret plans...or technology that is denied by mainstream scientists.. If anything places like Project Avalon , are teaching us that all this IS within EVERYONES grasp... That is what scares the PTW's the most..is that we are figuring it out.. Wont take long now and the PTWs will be a thing of the past... the true goal .. Is to make sure we do not repeat the mistakes of our past.. Be well Avalon..and know you are all loved. |
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I have now listened to the two hours interview and I must say that while there are some pearls of wisdom, she suffers from the same disease all the illuminati do: delirium of grandeur, messiah complex and paranoia, from her own interview she saids that she has been confirmed as "Magdalene Sofia, the only person that can open the gateway for our liberation". I do feel for her and no doubt she is saying her truth but it is not what will help us but the illuminati faction that is in a life or death fight with the satain families that are draconian
This business of the divine feminine is totally miscomprehended, the energy of source is NEUTRAL and can be use in different ways otherwise there will be no free will, we have 4 manifested densities in this time matrix and if the avatars of all the people is the world were to manifest it is true that the grids will not be able to take it but this is a fallen planet and that will not happen Each of those 4 harmonic universes have three currents which in our reality expresess as atomic body, emotional body and mental body. In other words we have 12 bodies that have different sex orientation but that balance as whole which is the reason that there are men that feel they are women and women that feel as men We do express very little of what we are here because we are disconected from our other parts thanks to the manipulations of people like the illuminati that happen eons ago We all have to use our discernment in this cases and take what serve us without being manipulated Love Last edited by Stardustaquarion; 02-12-2010 at 02:59 PM. |
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I listened to the interview . There are a number of important things about the interview . Its content and who is making the claims .
Certainly her surname enters into the equation because it gives more credibility to the person . Her voice shows a bit of nervousness ; it's understandable considering that the ptb have tried to derail her " going public efforts " . Even this is familiar to me . For what I have experienced in the last ten years the modus operandi of the crooks is predictable . It is not known generally that certain people are monitored and their friends infiltrated from the spooks agencies from birth . This is a massive breach of human rights . It happens and the victims do not have a clue , but it's the reality . It depends mostly by the family they come from (elite ) . Thanks to Laura's intuition she has been able to survive and discover all of those facts about the secret government . On the suppression of femininity I am convinced that what Laura says is true . Italy and most catholic country are a typical example , especially Italy a bastion of machismo controlled by the Vatican crooks, were women are little more than doormats and sex providers . I will follow how this story will develop . |
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Webre's interview with this young woman is interesting though largely incomprehensible. Hopefully going public will help Laura to regroup her energies and calm down. She sounds terribly scattered.
As a woman in my 60s now who has been steeped in Goddess culture for many years, it's wonderful to see and hear testimony from young women (Eisenhower and her friend Kai' Lia) who are grounded in the ancient Goddess energies and yet are futurists. It gives me hope they are finding their way even though they have been so enmeshed with the black hats up until now. It is definitely significant that more attention is being paid to the colonies on Mars. This is key to Disclosure, I feel. The many photos on youtube of the structures on Mars are very compelling evidence and corroboration of what we have been hearing about Mars from various Whistleblowers. I get the eeriest feeling when I look at them...the feeling that we really are living in something like a sci-fi novel... There is one thing that troubles me a lot, though. It's Basiago's ( hope I spelled that correctly) photos and attached descriptions of alleged objects and animals etc. on Mars. I didn't see anything like what he claims are in those photos, and I had just about decided he was some kind of elaborate disinfo agent, designed to make the Disclosure Movement look very foolish indeed. But given that his testimony can only draw more attention to the photos of objects on Mars that DO look like something recognizable, I couldn't logically draw that conclusion. So I will be interested to see what comes of his testimony, and what more he might reveal. Last edited by onawah; 02-13-2010 at 09:58 AM. |
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Sounds like an interesting story, but I'm wary of anything from Alfred Webre or that website; Examiner. I also don't believe that just because a former politician's grandaughter or relative comes out talking about stuff like this gives it any more credibility. Again, all the people who really want disclosure, then you have to ask for evidence. Speaking of which, is there any evidence to support this woman's story, anything?
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I had further thoughts overnight
![]() Source love us all, it does not distinguish between women and men, we are all love equally If we feel we are victim of the "patriarchal" energies, the only one that can victimize us is ourselves, no one can curtail our freedom and no curse can work if we chose to reject the invasion of our inner sanctum Blaming someone else for our weaknesess is the history of Earth againg and again. The victim victimizer game that we play in turns. We can only empower ourselves by choosing not to be a victim anymore and forgiving those that we have allowed to victimize us. If we need any help getting rid of undesirable energies we can call upon that wise part of us called Rishi (13th, 14th and 15th dimensions) and we will always be assisted, no matter how deep and difficult the problem If the energies that we are carring are still there, it might just be our own subconsciouss and the return for past deeds as what goes around comes around, the law of reciprocity Otherwise I agree with the other forum members that feel she is quite scattered and does not know were to proceed. Love |
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Thank you for the good link, Star d. As I recall, she said "I was told..." (she would lead the new world), not, "I will be the leader of..." (the free future world). I really did go through a very similar transorfmation as Laura. Once 11 yaers ago (the big event with witnesses I often refer to) and just recently with an encounter with artificial intellegence during (what I strongly believe to have been) a near death experience in a county psych ward. That was a difficult blow to my pong haeld pride for never being diagnosed with ANY mental contition all my life yet still had the way off the standard paranornal ET account radar. It's eluded to on pages at the RAD web site. Yes, I was the one who kicked heroin cold turkey, soent three months of intensive self stlyed recovery (Thi Chi, prayer, weditation and uncontitional service to others [that I feel was the key... getting out of my own little pissy-pot] and working the 12 steps as a sacred mandala of my life's changes... spiritual cryptology essentially). It worked. During the second phase of the first event, I had classic "kundalini psychosis," but ha denough presence of mind not to believe the dellusions of grandure. That diagnosis can be an afront to one who really IS the son or daughter of a noted parent of relative. You keep it under your belt all your laife and when the day comes that the connections mean something, yu are dismissed as crazy by you friends or therapist whom you trusted to support you through rough waters... no matter how way-out thet may sound. So I started the support group and now find myself in need of my own medicine. I can completely relate to what Laura says. My family was involved in the secrest space progrom through Lockheed-Martin skunkworksn (SR-17 Blackbird an related projects in western Nevada's spookyland). There a powerful energy line that runs almost the entire length of the Pacific side of the Ring of Fire. It's most important spur in through Sedona and up through Area 51. Like the Gulf of Aden, there is an acient time portal in certain places. They didn't name the testing base, "Dreamland" for nothing. I need to click out. Sending much love to all, Paul PS. Yes, I did experience a degree of mind control. Actually, intense MC. Thank goddess I had kundalini active to help see things more clearly. I wish there was a way I could get that energy again, but I don't think it can be forced. I has to come natually. |
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