The Upcoming Crisis in January/Staged Reasons by Bush&Co for NAU North American Union

[Myplanet2]

A few reasons I can think of, mostly having to do with deliberate conditioning and disconnection.

They are trying to dissolve people's sense of national identity.

Their models probably show that the planned regional governments around the world will not be accepted while people have a strong sense of nationality.

They also want a disconnect with affinity for ones familiar currency.

It's about breaking ties with the past, so people will not revolt as they parade out their new "future".

They've been working just as hard in education. implanting the ideas that families are more trouble than they are beneficial. Getting children to think in Global terms WITHOUT at the same time maintaining a national focus within the Global framework.

Creating deliberate inflation so the money buys less, and people are forced to work more for the same remuneration. they've long since passed the point where both parents in most families have no choice but to work outside the home, thereby giving the state a much larger than natural role in raising children the way they want them raised.

They think in very long time spans. several decades is nothing to them if it moves their programs forward along the appointed path of total control by a few, of the helpless many.

It might also help to consider that in Canada, which is where I live, you'd have to dig pretty deep to find any mention whatsoever of NAU, or SPP, or Amero. Almost zero coverage, although those of us with our eyes open see the steady progress being made towards the complete erosion of our ability to continue to say no, while the plans for implementation of the NWO proceed unabated.

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I'm still wondering why a North American Union would be such a bad idea? Besides the usual arguments about an end to sovereignity, what else?

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

A few reasons I can think of, mostly having to do with deliberate conditioning and disconnection.

They are trying to dissolve people's sense of national identity.

Their models probably show that the planned regional governments around the world will not be accepted while people have a strong sense of nationality.

They also want a disconnect with affinity for ones familiar currency.

It's about breaking ties with the past, so people will not revolt as they parade out their new "future".

They've been working just as hard in education. implanting the ideas that families are more trouble than they are beneficial. Getting children to think in Global terms WITHOUT at the same time maintaining a national focus within the Global framework.

Creating deliberate inflation so the money buys less, and people are forced to work more for the same remuneration. they've long since passed the point where both parents in most families have no choice but to work outside the home, thereby giving the state a much larger than natural role in raising children the way they want them raised.

They think in very long time spans. several decades is nothing to them if it moves their programs forward along the appointed path of total control by a few, of the helpless many.

It might also help to consider that in Canada, which is where I live, you'd have to dig pretty deep to find any mention whatsoever of NAU, or SPP, or Amero. Almost zero coverage, although those of us with our eyes open see the steady progress being made towards the complete erosion of our ability to continue to say no, while the plans for implementation of the NWO proceed unabated.

Thanks. I think your assessment makes sense and hits the nail on the head.

[piers2210]

The amero may benefit the USA as their economy is bankrupt and its a great way of disguising/offloading debt in the international market (there's nothing unsecured international debtors can do except accept the situation, as would happen with any other bankrupt entity), but whether it would benefit Canada and Mexico is debatable.

Most european countries who exchanged their local currency in favour of the euro have done better as a result (eg spain, ireland,greece, italy), and no one even talked about the "old" currencies after a few months, but there was considerable debate before the change happened. Britain needs to dump the pound and move to the euro asap as they are just as bankrupt as the USA.

But its highly likely that when americans realise the new amero buys a lot less than the old dollar, there will be riots on the streets.

[Humble Janitor]

Yeah. I can't imagine getting a paycheck only to find that it's worth much less in ameros. I know that they (TPTB) don't give a **** about people but for god's sake, at least try to reduce the differences between the dollar and amero. They really don't want to know what it will be like if Americans rioted.

There is some talk of Project North America in Canada, by David Emerson ...

David Emerson was a Liberal MP in Canada. He was wooed by the current Conservative PM to cross the floor, and he did. His constituents in Vancouver-Kingsway were furious, wanted to de-elect and recall him because of it, since they elected him as a Liberal. The Prime Minister previously mocked people (Belinda Stronach) who had similarly switched parties - so it was weird that he initiated the same process! PM Harper was also in tight with George Bush Jr. The PM was rather sneaky and secretive with most of the SPP agreements to date; no public consultation.



David Emerson has since quit politics and returned to the private sector. His public record:
2004 - Liberal candidate, won election
2006 - Liberal candidate, won election
2006 - after election become Minister of International Trade in Harper's new Conservative minority government.
May 26, 2008 - Emerson was appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs following the resignation of Maxime Bernier (<NATO document/biker scandal)
2008 - did not seek re-election

David Emerson was tied up with these fellas: Canadian Council of Chief Executives.

All new North American Competitiveness Council - now with "spiritual vision", Friday, May 15, 2009

We have yet another new contender in David Emerson's "Project North America" sweepstakes .: The Standing Commission on North American Prosperity or "N.A. 2050" for short : "A united effort of distinguished individuals from Mexico, Canada and the USA to provide sound economic and social policy guidance to the political leaders of the three countries for the prosperity of all peoples of North America....
http://thegallopingbeaver.blogspot.c...itiveness.html

You, Me, and the S.P.P. - Trailer
You'll remember Paul Manly as the guy who shot that video of CEP union president Dave Coles exposing 3 rock-toting agents provocateurs as Quebec police at the SPP protests at Montebello.

Paul has just finished his full-length feature film : ‘You, Me, and the S.P.P: Trading Democracy for Corporate Rule’, on "the latest manifestation of a corporatist agenda that is undermining the democratic authority of the citizens of North America".

[Humble Janitor]

Looking back, I should probably put my foot in my mouth for that attitude I had.

January's gone though. It should teach us to not buy so much into dates and times.

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Looking back, I should probably put my foot in my mouth for that attitude I had.

January's gone though. It should teach us to not buy so much into dates and times.

... we all got more lovin' NOW



(I really want to kick Canadian-USA-UK-OZ multinational sneaky greedy elitist a** though! it's the People, ...!)

This document is still floating around. I'm not sure how it all stands with a new U.S. Administration, the economy, flu and the other major shifts.

NORTH AMERICAN FUTURE 2025 PROJECT
Armand B. Peschard-Sverdrup
Director, Mexico Project
Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS)
1800 K Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20006

PROJECT DESCRIPTION
In order to strengthen the capacity of Canadian, U.S., and Mexican administration officials and that of their respective legislatures to analyze, comprehend, and anticipate North American integration, the CSIS North America Project proposes to carry out a series of seven closed-door roundtable sessions.

ROUNDTABLE I: METHODOLOGY OF GLOBAL AND NORTH AMERICAN PROJECTIONS
ROUNDTABLE II: THE FUTURE OF NORTH AMERICAN LABOR MOBILITY
ROUNDTABLE III: THE FUTURE OF NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY
ROUNDTABLE IV: THE FUTURE OF THE NORTH AMERICAN ENVIRONMENT
ROUNDTABLE V: THE FUTURE OF NORTH AMERICAN SECURITY
ROUNDTABLE VI: THE FUTURE OF NORTH AMERICAN COMPETITIVENESS
ROUNDTABLE VII: THE FUTURE OF NORTH AMERICAN BORDER INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOGISTICS

http://www.canadians.org/water/docum...uture_2025.pdf (PDF, 25pp)

[Humble Janitor]

I would say that recent developments have kind of canceled out this whole NAU thing.

Just my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I would say that recent developments have kind of canceled out this whole NAU thing.

Just my thoughts.

You may be right about that. I'm not sure.

I can't let this PM off the hook

His sooper-dooper advisor believes in The Noble Lie (seriously!).

"In politics a noble lie is a myth or untruth, often, but not invariably, of a religious nature, knowingly told by an elite to maintain social harmony, particularly the social position of that elite. The noble lie is a concept originated by Plato as described in The Republic. However, the concept has far greater scope and has been used by many commentators to talk about much more modern issues in politics."

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

His sooper-dooper advisor believes in The Noble Lie (seriously!).

"In politics a noble lie is a myth or untruth, often, but not invariably, of a religious nature, knowingly told by an elite to maintain social harmony, particularly the social position of that elite. The noble lie is a concept originated by Plato as described in The Republic. However, the concept has far greater scope and has been used by many commentators to talk about much more modern issues in politics."

This sounds very familiar to me from listening to Alan Watt, who is extremely well-informed.

[Northern Boy]

Heres an idea of what to expect if this goes thru :

Loss of borders
What does this mean ? it means a variety of things . Increased job competition you will be now competing with Mexicans and Canadians for jobs. Not only competing but also working at the wage scales of the lowest paid worker . Say your a construction worker and you have 15 years experience . Big project requiring lots of workers , Mexican wins the bid on it , you normally work for $ 25.00 per hour in your trade , the Mexicans pay $ 8.00 a day . you work for this wage or you don`t work and look else where

Loss of Natural resources

All oil, timber,water and mineral rights are now on the table the great lakes could in effect be drained . water could be trucked where ever and when ever with out permission .
The loss of fishing rights Canada currently enjoys a 200 mile limit that would no longer apply and and factory ships that catch and package different varieties of fish could rape those waters clean

Loss of Government

Currently your elected officials are supposed to represent you and have failed miserably at it . Under the NAU you would still elect people but they would have little or no power to do anything . they would vote on changes to laws and statutes and introduce these as directed by the actual rulers which would be a very small group of people who would have lifetime rule over us.

Loss of rights

Under treaties and make no mistake this is what the NAU will be the Constitution and the Canadian Bill Of Rights do not apply. Those documents do not apply to treaties and such limit them to being no more than toilet paper .
If you are wanted by another country because they do not like what you said or wrote about them . Or even if they want you for questioning they simply present their case to your government courts , A warrant is drawn up and you get picked up you do not get a trail in your country to find guilt or innocence you are turned over to the country that wants you they don`t have to charge you they can hold you indefinitely in their jails


these are just a few things the can do . Representatives are elected according to population the more population you have the more Reps your country has so if Canada wants something and the U.S. doesn`t they must get enough Mexican reps to vote on their side in order to pass something . It gets to be a cut throat game after a while where things can be done that don`t benefit all parties

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by no caste

...anticipate North American integration, the CSIS North America Project proposes to carry out a series of seven closed-door roundtable sessions...

Of course, it has to be closed-door!!!

That's the modus operandi.

Originally Posted by seashore

Of course, it has to be closed-door!!!

That's the modus operandi.

It's OK... "Great lords have their pleasures, but the people have fun." -Baron de Montesquieu