Maybe Icke Is Right The Wrong Energy Is Everywhere

[ophiuchus]

Originally Posted by orb

I am not sure I can believe everything David Icke says, but I can say one thing, some of his concepts can help people if they adopt them as a concept, and there is no better example in the drama that has happened that might have influenced Kerry to leave the forum.

As a recap, my understanding of what Icke has to say is this. There are a race of beings, possibly 4th dimensional lizard types, that derive benefit from humans when they are upset, cause upset, or spread hate etc. His point is that humans are unaware of the multi-dimensional aspect of their psyche, and that they are broadcasting at all times into other dimensions energy, which is harvested by this races.

Now Icke also asserts that certain people on the planet with a high percentage of DNA that was contributed by this race can be manipulated to cause situations and effect through their actions distress on other humans which in turn feed that race through that energy. This can be done often without the person's knowledge, and sometimes the most innocent of souls can be the victims of the most abuse of others without realizing it.

Icke also asserts that love and support is poison as a energy for this race, and that to broadcast these energies in fact is like poison and causes them to disconnect in a way from the humans who are broadcasting these energies.

Icke also asserts that in a way, when you broadcast love and support, and caring, that you will be tampered with by other humans who without their knowledge will be inspired to cause you grief through their actions or manipulating opinion against you for their benefit. Any negative emotion can be used to feed them, including self doubt. The best analogy for people is if you have seen the movie "The Matrix". Instead of electricity you are being harvested for negative emotion. And when your production drops, you will be shaken up a little.

What I will suggest with that in mind is two things. Small minded people on this forum with criticism, and negative emotions, innocent as they are, are in fact feeding that 4th dimensional race. And Kerry, regardless of her workload reason by reacting is feeding that 4th dimensional race. Everyone here should always focus on only love emotions and deny this race any sustenance from negative energy. And Kerry should simply stay, and not give that race the benefit of a reaction because of the fact that people unaware of their nature were used as pawns to spread negative energy on this important forum.

What I would suggest is if the MODS wish to make a real difference in life, then any poster who infers a negative emotion or intent of another user, causes drama, or a negative energy in anyway without coupling it with a positive emotion, be silenced for a period of one week. There is enough negative energy in this world, lets get this forum on track.

your thoughts are good and well taken but
one week seems a little severe. a warning with correction and understanding might do nicely unless they are flagrant and consistently offensive. nice posting.

[orb]

Thanks, and yes, maybe a week is a little harsh. You know, one thing that seems to be lost today is the nature of the web as self policing. Basically in every sector, the net participants penalize people who fall off the masses of that community, but volume of responses so that people learn the basic behavior required in any group from the backlash in their inbox reminding them to be nicer, or cruler, etc., what the community dictates.

The role of the MOD is to allow that discussion and kick back to happen towards the offending party without any major damage and to keep the flames from getting too high, but to interrupt that process with heavy handedness robs the net, and this board, of the power it has to self police.

Basically we have many participants today on the web who are ignorant of the core Internet ideals and it's design and collaboration philosophy, and are trying to apply standard top down approach management. It leads to problems everywhere on the net.

Originally Posted by ophiuchus

your thoughts are good and well taken but
one week seems a little severe. a warning with correction and understanding might do nicely unless they are flagrant and consistently offensive. nice posting.

[piers2210]

I love David Icke, although its only recently that i started getting into his stuff (talks etc) seriously. Nice to see a Brit commenting on US matters without inhibition..hello Tony Blair?? you still there??

I agree with the principle of what Orb is saying, but what is really necessary is for people's criticism of others comments to be reasoned and non-offensive. I'm constantly amazed that on a forum like this people are still letting their "egos" dominate when it is primarly a forum for learning and information sharing. The "poor Gary McKinnon" thread shocked me at how off-beam it got in the end.

[Sanat]

I simply call these forces/beings the ego-parasites. They thrive/live in the unconscious/darkness and they feed off of all sort of conflict/affliction/negativity either self-directed or directed towards others. Many people are identified with the nest of ego-parasites as their very identity. That is why just a few words is often enough to provoke the parasitic beast to reveal its ugly head.

I find that it is very good to view the forces operating in one's mind as impersonal "alien" forces that is not "you". They are yours to take responsability for yes, but not "you" - not your identity. The forces offer different choices of reaction. If you turn down the first response/choice (often automatic/conditioned based on judgements), another choice will appear. This new choice will come from a clearer/calmer space and it will be of a higer quality than the first. The prayer from George Green's Handbooks for a new Paradigm can be of good help here: "I/he/she is a human becoming, help me/him/her to become!". With that in mind it is easier to forgive self and others.

These forces are not "evil/bad" in my view. They are doing an important job. They are extremely good at finding weaknesses and what buttons to push. Thus, they will point out to you what you need to "work on" in yourself. Only lies can get provoked, because truth has nothing to defend. These forces should be seen as providing the catalyst for change/growth, and not as the "enemy". Use the Lightsword of Awareness to cut through.


Love,

Sanat