The Goodbye Thread / Options To stay

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

since some people seem to read only the last post or two before hitting the post button, let me jump in with the umpteenth reiteration of the fact that.....the information is and will remain free. There is no intention to sell any information. Everything on Camelot remains freely available. Everything posted here remains freely available to everyone. Anyone can come here to the forum and read everything that's been posted. That doesn't change. All the information available for free now, will be available for free after subscription.

But if 90% of the people that post can't what new stuff will there be to look at???

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Swanny

But if 90% of the people that post can't what new stuff will there be to look at???

my thoughts exactly!!

[Heretic]

man...

I am just astounded by how many absolutely poor and destitute for money people here really are, it is almost beyond belief, because I am pretty damn poor myself and one dollar a month is WELL inside my financial means

you can afford a computer, and internet access fee but 1 measly ole dollar breaks some of you people? Methinks people are fighting the principle more than their pocketbooks here

but then I cannot really know the financial means of anyone here at all, thus my opinion is subjective at the best, and I apologize, sympathize, and even relate to those who are really in a bad spot financially and hope the best for you and hope you all can stay

a pack of smokes a month?

I can do that

I will be paying the full $5

quite strange to have to pay to talk. the word free donations would have sounded much better.

We have to pay to talk here?, that´s major ********, sorry.


Keep you all this: you have to pay to talk.


smells very bad.

[Xhaosis]

does not sound like a message board to me. A donations link should be open.. I am sure many people who have lots of power will not have a problem giving some of it to you.

The scholar of all schools meets a man, who has no education.. He tells him I know everything, Money has paid to teach.. The pathetic man who has no education tells hims something cold... Also out of place and left behind all alone... It was something he did not know.. It left him to wander in the dark for the rest of his life.. Wishing on stray stars... To be different you must be different.. I feel your pain, it is mine as well.. It is mine as well..

PEACE

[GregorArturo]

Truth in freedom.

(I have to throw in this one too!)



EDIT NOTE: Just discovered the rule on 'naked links', and didn't want to ruin the beauty of my last post by adding captions so here they are hahaha. Both are clips from braveheart. The first being the last scene with Gibson's death, and the latter being his speech before battle)

[Flying Pyramid]

I did not want to post this openly, i was hopeing people would read between the lines and "get it". But in case no one has or no one will read my above post let me be rediculously clear:

You all believe the same thing about oneness and energy, yes?
That means ALL things not just the ones you like, yes?
You see them, they see you, yes?
MONEY IS THIER TOOL!

My simple message was to Bill & Kerry but at the same time i hoped others would get it.

The darkside rides with you.
It knows what you know.
Change can not come from knowledge.
Change comes from the choice to have love.
ANY and all knowledge from here will change nothing!
Only the choice you free willingly make to help others in anyway shape or form can induce change.
THE SIMPLE PURPOSE of this forum and Project Camelot at it's core it to let YOU know that you are not alone in this choice.
Others struggle with you.
Others know and want what you know and want.
YOU will not make the choice alone.

The subscription path is only a test by the powers that be to see how committed they are to thier cause.
The first one into battle will take the most damage.
They are leaders of thier cause.
They serve a purpose.
They have been, are, and allways will be tested in thier conviction.
They asked a question to the cosmos about thier stuggles on thier path.
And they recieved the answer.

The point of all of this is to change the negative entities to positive.
In doing so you must sacrifice yourself to your own cause.
You must be willing to go the distance or drop out of the race.
If you can not command, you must obey.

In short everybody, if you want change you must change yourself first.
You need to go halfway around the world to do something but you have not the means to get there, then look up to the sky, dig deep into oneself and ask for help and ye SHALL recieve.
You need to go to africa to do something, hey you might just have a friend in africa who will let you stay there while in town.
If you hunger, someone will feed you.
It's all about choices.
Wants and needs share a thin wall.

It's not what you have it's what you give.
It not the life you choose it's the life you live.

I have only been here one week and i already know all of this.
I know who Bill & Kerry are.
What troubles they face Inside and out.
This is one way, only one path they are concidering.
Only one path out of many laid before them.

One must believe in the power of love.

Will i still visit if the forum goes paid? Of course.
Will i still post insight and new technologies? I won't be able to, but where there is a will there is a way.
What one knows, all know.

Peace, Love & Light

[truth-freedom]

Hello to All,

I would just like to make a couple of comments.
First of all, I cannot help but feel a bit of discouragement when I read the posts on the 6 pages of this tread. We should all, at this point, realize the importance of ALL OF US coming together and communicating in a mature fashion. But it does reveal, clearly, that many of US, WE who profess to seek TRUTH, have much work to do in recognizing the polarity of Fear and Love and then choosing the latter.
When One has conquered One's innermost Fears, then One is able to master One's emotions and then, truly, change the world. Soooo many unmastered emotions, as I too experience discouragement.
For darkness to exist, the Light must be extinguished. Are we to allow this to happen?
Lastly, I would just like to say that I recognize and appreciate Bill and Kerry for their work and their desire to seek out and reveal Truth. I understand that, in the world in which we live, the work they do requires funding. In that regard, I echo the suggestions of other members to at least consider funding by DONATIONS as opposed to SUBSCRIPTION. (And yes, I am aware that with the subscription situation viewing is still at no cost.) There are many here, including myself, who would like to financially contribute and have no philosophical objection to doing so. For those who either do not want to, or are unable to, contribute financially, let's recognize their contributions of information, ideas and opinions as valueable assets. Either way, the money raised will be the same amount. It's just that with Donations, we don't lose anyone's input or cause anyone to feel less valueable.
Well wishes to all.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by truth-freedom

Hello to All,

I would just like to make a couple of comments.
First of all, I cannot help but feel a bit of discouragement when I read the posts on the 6 pages of this tread. We should all, at this point, realize the importance of ALL OF US coming together and communicating in a mature fashion. But it does reveal, clearly, that many of US, WE who profess to seek TRUTH, have much work to do in recognizing the polarity of Fear and Love and then choosing the latter.
When One has conquered One's innermost Fears, then One is able to master One's emotions and then, truly, change the world. Soooo many unmastered emotions, as I too experience discouragement.
For darkness to exist, the Light must be extinguished. Are we to allow this to happen?
Lastly, I would just like to say that I recognize and appreciate Bill and Kerry for their work and their desire to seek out and reveal Truth. I understand that, in the world in which we live, the work they do requires funding. In that regard, I echo the suggestions of other members to at least consider funding by DONATIONS as opposed to SUBSCRIPTION. (And yes, I am aware that with the subscription situation viewing is still at no cost.) There are many here, including myself, who would like to financially contribute and have no philosophical objection to doing so. For those who either do not want to, or are unable to, contribute financially, let's recognize their contributions of information, ideas and opinions as valueable assets. Either way, the money raised will be the same amount. It's just that with Donations, we don't lose anyone's input or cause anyone to feel less valueable.
Well wishes to all.

I completely agree. I will state this, if the subscription process was to suddenly cease and fall through, I will gladly do my best to make a contribution to Project Camelot at some point. I will not however submit to a subscription service. They are indeed two differing philosophies.

I will admit I feel bad for someone else paying my subscription but it is of greater benefit that my ideas are shared with all of you then with myself and local community as is.

[KassandraLoves]

Originally Posted by truth-freedom

... For those who either do not want to, or are unable to, contribute financially, let's recognize their contributions of information, ideas and opinions as valueable assets. Either way, the money raised will be the same amount. It's just that with Donations, we don't lose anyone's input or cause anyone to feel less valueable.
Well wishes to all.

I LOVED your post on this. Well said. I couldnt have said it better...literally, I had to edit my post just to have it make sense...

The contribution IS the information that EVERYONE can give, with or without a dollar in hand...

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Swanny

But if 90% of the people that post can't what new stuff will there be to look at???

actually, the vast minority of posters here, have contributed the vast majority of value. I expect nothing much to change, except perhaps a LOT of mod work will be reduced.