Breaking, largest us army recall since 1941!

[sunflower]

pure speculation on my part:


the US government needs all available manpower to control the masses when they are forced to announce that the US is officially bankrupt and that money no longer is worth anything. soldiers are sent out to cities to control the people and possible riot situations; maybe to deliver and distribute food to people when the infrastructure collapses. food distribution and delivery would be something that any retired soldier would agree to do for the benefit of the country.


Hi Bildeburger/ Your idea makes sense. If an emergency of any kind occurs -earthquakes, floods, food shortages - who best to use but the retired military? Frees up the enlisted soldiers for invasion threats or overseas action.

[Powerinourhandsl]

Originally Posted by sunflower

pure speculation on my part:


the US government needs all available manpower to control the masses when they are forced to announce that the US is officially bankrupt and that money no longer is worth anything. soldiers are sent out to cities to control the people and possible riot situations; maybe to deliver and distribute food to people when the infrastructure collapses. food distribution and delivery would be something that any retired soldier would agree to do for the benefit of the country.


Hi Bildeburger/ Your idea makes sense. If an emergency of any kind occurs -earthquakes, floods, food shortages - who best to use but the retired military? Frees up the enlisted soldiers for invasion threats or overseas action.

Unfortuntely , a devaluation of the dollar would make the chinese Hopping Mad. It would be interpreted as an act of war i seem to recall..

[Barron]

There was a extensive exchange of views on this very same discussion on another Forum at www.ashtarcommand.net whereby more then one ex or retired military person said they had not received any "call-up" notice nor had anyone that they knew that used to be in the military and when i heard this i assumed that this story to be not true.

[Orion Morris]

I know retired officers... They havnt said anyting... when is this supposed to happen... I dont think they could actually pull it off without having a national draft... If their is a draft I think their will be revolt first.

[Swanny]

My friend is married to a major, he is out in Iraq at the mo but I have asked her to ask him if knows of anything.
They are always on MSN so mite find out if he knows of anything soon.

[MAP]

Originally Posted by Swanny

My friend is married to a major, he is out in Iraq at the mo but I have asked her to ask him if knows of anything.
They are always on MSN so mite find out if he knows of anything soon.

just so you know if this person would know anything you will not find out
not even the wife will know the truth..
and besides anything thats going on in the US some of the soldiers in IRAQ dont even have a clue whats going on
some dont even know whats going on in the countries around IRAQ

I can tell you my son works with communications there in IRAQ and he has told me there has been times where soldiers say one word on the phone that they shouldn't and they are shut off..


so if you expect to hear anything from any soldier in IRAQ dont hold your breath..
sorry I hope that wasn't to harsh... dint mean to be harsh..

[Swanny]

No worries Map your probably right

[Kly]

Don't know what this means but... this was broadcast on the John Stadmiller program.

when I googled his name this popped up:

John Stadmiller Booted Off GCN
John Stadmiller got his walking papers from GCN. Repeat shows for the next
week or so and the that's it.

Everything must be investigated these days.. I just got off the phone with some key vets in vets for peace and gave them the heads up on this broadcast.

They are checking things out. If it is true we should all know by the end of the week if they sent the letters out.

We live in interesting times.

[MAP]

I got a message today from a buddy of mine in reply to the message posted here at the forum this is what he got....

have you heard of an electric company named AEP electric they put out moblie power plant and i heard there are 100s being called for assistance all over the place i wonder whats going to happen,,i heard it on a radio show yesterday,,,do you know anything?
http://www.aep.com

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Kly

Don't know what this means but... this was broadcast on the John Stadmiller program.

when I googled his name this popped up:

John Stadmiller Booted Off GCN
John Stadmiller got his walking papers from GCN. Repeat shows for the next
week or so and the that's it.

Everything must be investigated these days.. I just got off the phone with some key vets in vets for peace and gave them the heads up on this broadcast.

They are checking things out. If it is true we should all know by the end of the week if they sent the letters out.

We live in interesting times.

John was the first person to put Alex Jones on the air then he was fired/quit GCN and started RBN...whom kows.

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by Swanny

No worries Map your probably right

Best advice I've heard all day!!

[MAP]

Major international drill based at D-M to focus on rescue skills, coordination
To troops downed in combat, few sights are sweeter than the approach of military rescuers. In a few weeks, Tucson will be at the center of efforts to speed up that lifesaving process. Personnel from around the globe will converge at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base from Dec. 1 to Dec. 12 for the largest rescue exercise of its kind. The effort, dubbed Angel Thunder, will involve the U.S. Army and Air Force, troops from Germany, Chile, Colombia and observers from Canada, Mexico, Brazil and Pakistan. Several non-military U.S. agencies such as the State and Justice departments, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office, also will take part in the drills, which aim to smooth interaction between military branches, allied nations and civilian agencies.
With about 450 personnel involved, Angel Thunder "is the most complex and largest Department of Defense personnel- recovery exercise to date,"
read more here ---> http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/267361

Wisconsin's Largest Military Deployment Since WWII Underway
As the 432nd Civil Affairs Battalion returns after a year of duty, thousands more Wisconsin National Guard troops are preparing for deployment to Iraq in the largest military deployment this state has seen since World War II. It's a deployment of the state's largest unit, the 32nd Brigade Combat Team. Statewide, 3,500 service members are being called up. That affects about 750 soldiers in Northeast Wisconsin. About 150 come from the Appleton-based 127th.
read more here ---> http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=9325153

Illinois National Guardsmen and Airmen are being deployed overseas in numbers we haven't seen since World War II.
Illinois National Guardsmen and Airmen are being deployed overseas in numbers we haven't seen since World War II. They are going to global hot spots. And for many, the journey involves airlifts. One particular plane, a C-130, was headed from Peoria, Illinois, to Fort Bragg, North Carolina. And in North Carolina, that is where Illinois' citizen soldiers were training and getting ready to serve in Afghanistan.
read more here ---> http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...nts&id=6511236

[RSF]

I've been listening to John's show and it's pretty-scary. But it's a re-broadcast
from yesterday. So thought I'd check around some of the many major news sites to see something in print but no-can-find.

As seriously as this guy and one of his reporters are talking, I'd think this news would in-broadcast all over the place?
RSF

[Steve_A]

Hi Orion Morris,

You could be an important piece in this jigsaw now if you know retired army officers. Remember, if these guys have been retired for more than ten years, they will not be recalled.

The interviewee said that his friend had called and informed him that the letters were being prepared to be sent out. Some were sent out on the 17th and others were being sent out, it was suggested, over the next couple of days. I imagine it takes around a couple of days for the postal system to delier a letter, so the first letters would start to be received tomorrow or Friday.

If anybody knows of a retired official and has access to the letter, please scan the letter and post in the forum as it could prove to be an important document in the history of the US.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

I know retired officers... They havnt said anyting... when is this supposed to happen... I dont think they could actually pull it off without having a national draft... If their is a draft I think their will be revolt first.

[MAP]

Stop-loss policy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-loss_policy
Stop-loss, in the United States military, is the involuntary extension of a service member's active duty service under the enlistment contract in order to retain them beyond their initial end of term of service (ETS) date. It also applies to the cessation of a permanent change of station (PCS) move for a member still in military service. Stop-loss was used immediately before and during the first Persian Gulf War. Since then, it has been used during American military deployments to Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo and during the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and the subsequent War on Terror.
The policy has been legally challenged several times, however federal courts have consistently found that military service members contractually agree that their term of service may be involuntarily extended.

Controversy

The controversy regarding stop-loss focuses mainly on the aspect involving "involuntary extension" of a service member's initial active duty service obligation. For service members opposed to involuntary extension, it represents implementation of a desultory clause in their contract which alters their expectation of an end of term of service date. It also exposes them to the risk of an additional or prolonged combat deployment. For opponents of a current armed conflict, the public perception of "involuntary extension" is contrary to the notion of voluntary service and undermines popular support for the conflict.

In a campaign speech in 2004, former presidential candidate John Kerry described stop-loss as a "backdoor draft."[2] The use of stop-loss has been criticized by activists and some politicians as an abuse of the spirit of the law, on the basis that Congress has not formally declared war, such as is the case in the Iraq War. (Congress did, however, legally authorize the Iraq war. Similar authorizations occured without formal declarations in Korea and other conflicts.)

During August 2007, Iraq Veterans Against the War, an activist organization of former and current service members, announced a national "Stop the Stop-Loss" campaign at a press conference where they were holding a week-long vigil in a tower erected on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. Other anti-Stop-Loss vigils have occurred in Bellingham, Washington, and Colorado Springs, Colorado.

On March 10 and 11, 2008, a group of college students, supported by Code Pink and Iraq Veterans Against the War, as well as several other organizations, issued symbolic stop-loss "orders" to every member of both the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate in protest of both the practice of stop-lossing and of the Iraq War. On March 12, 2008, the students "enforced" the orders by blocking off the exits to the parking garages of the Rayburn House Office Building and the Hart Senate Office Building.[3] Ironically, most elected politicians wish to keep their seats as long as possible, so the effort appears confused.




any ways alot of these new links and info posted doesn't look good =((((

[bilderburger w/cheese]

rogue2/sunflower:

weve got US officers/soldiers being recalled; its possible that through the recent training exercises of foreign troops on our soil (see alex jones` material in police state 1,2, and 3), we have the necessary manpower to distribute food/supplies when something happens (translation: when they do something to us.).

in september, a standing brigade was permanently assigned to the northeast... thats typically 5000 guys.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/

according to the article, the defense authorization act of 2006 gives the president the right to use the soldiers under martial law, antiwar protests that get unruly, or a terrorist incident. the article said they were being trained for nonlethal combat techniques.

another poster mentioned the recall of troops from wisconsin... i was there in the early 90s and had a roommate who was in ROTC. during his national guard weekends, they trained extensively for riot control. i recall him asking for volunteer rioters to make the scenarios more realistic.

ALL THAT SAID.... it seems that our distinguished colleagues on the ATS forum think its most likely a hoax:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread412473/pg1

i think we should chill out and relax until we get some more credible evidence.

[Steve_A]

Hi bilderburger w/cheese,

I'm not one for trying to stir it up, but I remember watching the film 'Loose Change' and also a candid interview with Peter Power of Visor Consultants speaking about the 7/7 bombings in the UK, both suggesting that 'war games' were prepared for the same day as the 'attacks'.

Could it be that some new 'war games' are being planned?

We should monitor this closely. The very least that could happen is that the guy who released this story will have egg on his face. If it is true, we need to know ASAP to get the word out far and wide to try and stem what could be something bigger.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by bilderburger w/cheese

rogue2/sunflower:

weve got US officers/soldiers being recalled; its possible that through the recent training exercises of foreign troops on our soil (see alex jones` material in police state 1,2, and 3), we have the necessary manpower to distribute food/supplies when something happens (translation: when they do something to us.).

in september, a standing brigade was permanently assigned to the northeast... thats typically 5000 guys.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/

according to the article, the defense authorization act of 2006 gives the president the right to use the soldiers under martial law, antiwar protests that get unruly, or a terrorist incident. the article said they were being trained for nonlethal combat techniques.

another poster mentioned the recall of troops from wisconsin... i was there in the early 90s and had a roommate who was in ROTC. during his national guard weekends, they trained extensively for riot control. i recall him asking for volunteer rioters to make the scenarios more realistic.

ALL THAT SAID.... it seems that our distinguished colleagues on the ATS forum think its most likely a hoax:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread412473/pg1

i think we should chill out and relax until we get some more credible evidence.