I would like to issue a challenge

[Ampgod]

Originally Posted by Scooby

I will give to all who want proof of God the creator or to any that want proof of Lucifer a challenge. If you truly seek Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding then I encourage you to get on your face to the Great Creator with true earnestness and ask him to give it to you. But first you must be honest with Him and yourself. You must ask forgiveness for Sin(literally sin means falling short of his purpose for you) and iniquities that exist in all of us mankind.
If you seek him with and open, honest heart I guarantee you you will not be let down. It may not be an earth shattering experience but if you give Him and yourself time and seek him day and evening with your face to the ground in true reverence I can assure you he will lead you to truth and true inner love. Just ask him to show you truth and start searching. look to Enoch, Torah, ancient writings of all kinds and ask Him to guide you and give you revelation if you are steadfast it will come. Ask him to give you discernment of what is truth and what is BS. If you are just a lazy ass smart alec you wont find squat but, if like I said, you are truly honest about your your flesh and realize theres nothing about you he doesn't see or know and confess it then the transformation will begin and it will be more powerful than any black majik or so called enlightenment you can get from the Great lier. I know I did a couple years ago and my journey has been the most exciting and truly remarkable one I have ever had.
The thing is you have to really be ready and Honest. My Spirit has been awakened to truth and love as never before. I am now an Immortal spirit being and creation of the most high in a container not a container that thinks she is God. It took me 48 years to get to the place where I quit playing games and thinking I was OK because I believe but never really sought with a contrite and open heart as a child that knows nothing before the Great PAPA before I really found Him. I was religious and looked to leader figures in religion and was just lukewarm as is the whole Idea of religion. It keeps you lukewarm and unpalatable to the Heavenly PAPA. OK so there go, you can go on thinking you know it all and have all the truth you need and can get what you need on your own but I guarantee you that until you start to believe you are just a child compared to the Creator and know nothing you can't gain any real wisdom. Be reverent, be real, be open and humble and see what happens. His love is for everyone. Even the most decrepit evil persons in the world. God's richest Blessings ~~

Who are you to tell people to "get on your face"?
This is religous BS.

I'll pass. Thanks anyway.

[Harper]

Monsieur or Madame Scooby,

The thread is called spirituality not religion to answer a previous question. Its a place where people come to, among other things, investigate the myths and lies propagated by a religion gone awry. Its a place where people like to openly discuss the totally unethical history of religion(s) and where to go from here. There are certainly people on this site who believe in god and good luck to them, everyone is on their own path. However if you begin a new thread to tell people to effectively prostrate themselves in the name of your God then there is a small chance you may have been misled about what we are all at here.

In general we are trying to get people UP, take them out of their fear, get up and wake up. Gods not driving our cars around here.

To put the spirituality back into our lives that has been so robbed from us by religions that spread hell and damnation and the governments who use religion to spread fear for their grand plan of permanent war.

AND as a general note you are on an open forum which is being accessed by people from all over the world at different times of their or our day or night, in other words some of em could be drunk :-) joke joke just a little humour to keep the boat afloat. Cheer up and expect to be taken to task when you post anything here, its a place where people can question mock or even be mean, its kinda like the real world.

No offense to you at all, I hope you have a great time doing what you are doing but you will find that others don't agree and if you post you have to be able to give as good as you get.

[Ashatav]

Religion and spirituality are close terms, like egg and chicken haha.

The religion is the logic first step to a "personal religion" and that's what YOU understand for spirituality.

I suport you totally Scooby. You are really ahead of many, many men in therms of spiritual realization, keep searching what you think is the best.

Let's see this.

Zeitgeist par 1 DEBUNKED!

All the sources in this part of zeitgeist are theosophical ones, and that's satanism (really, I don't making it up! see what Elena Blavasky, the founder of theosophy say in his book "The secret doctrine"!).

Other thing to look at is the Alberto Rivera history. It's a disclosure!

Of course in the topic of spiritual knowledge you must believe before see so it's only life timing.

The skeptics are good people who thinks by Themselves so I don't have nothing against them either.


Really I think if we ask G O D a little proof he will answerd the challenge. Do it, it's nice hehehe

SSsssheerz

[motov]

GOD????

what GOD, biblical? allah? thor...RA......

we cant embrace god when god is not GOD, the GOD of creation is not the god in the scripture....

even god pounders if there is a ultimate creator....

and plz differ between GOD and god....

but freely praise god in the bible but your not getting what you think...

Originally Posted by Ampgod

Who are you to tell people to "get on your face"?
This is religous BS.

I'll pass. Thanks anyway.

Again, someone that doesnt understand the difference between religion and spirituality. What I am advocating is a relationship with the greatest spirit of all. Of course you don't get it. The Bible says that the Wisdom of God is foolishness to man. Thats because man is full of ego and thinks himself a god or godlike. No One told you to do anything bud it was a challenge. Learn to read than you might start to discover what you think you already grasp. You might want to check yourself and why you feel or are projecting offense over the suggestion. btw like others you may want to learn respect of others views whether you believe them or not its how you will get along when the times really do get tuff here in Amerika.

[dayzero]

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[SuperManny]

Scooby, I understand that you think you have something important to share. The problem is that you are presenting your beliefs and opinions here as FACTS.

Pardon me for being honest and frank; but that makes you come across as arrogant and condescending. You talk like your beliefs are superior to ours. Perhaps they are right for you, but that doesn't mean they're right for anyone else. You'd do well to encourage everyone to follow their own inner guidance.

If you find someone who's truly interested in what you have to say; Great!
Until then the best thing you can do is to live your life the best way you can, and let that example be your teaching.

Originally Posted by Scooby

...Thats because man is full of ego and thinks himself a god or godlike.

Of course I feel like a god! And why shouldn't I? The bible says I am one!!
"Ye are gods! Sons and Daughters of the Most High"
Psalms 82; 6
John 10; 34

[sebring1963]

sorry Scooby it's all sounding too
Tammy Faye, Jimmy Swaggert like to me

[GregorArturo]

I always find it interesting when the religious go up against the spiritualists (Remember ctophil and me! That was classic haha...) in that the religious folk horde together in a group with one turning toward the rest of the crowd "Don't worry, they'll it coming to them." While the spiritualists will just roll their eyes with a smile on their face and each go on their own merry way. The religious folk will continue to meet together in groups and focus on notions of separation and how to restore unity to the group to further the notion of separation between them and the almighty. The spiritualists however, will go on with the natural flow of life and simply due to synchronicity, they are brought together again in which they embrace the unity with a hug and a smile.

Scooby, my advice, rework how you approach people with your ideas and feelings, and I honestly believe people will listen to you more seriously, regardless of their current beliefs.

For example, there was a discussion panel this week at my campus focused on 'seeking harmony' through an association of secular humanists which I am proudly apart of. One of the four panel speakers was the representative for the local interfaith Chaplin service and is a Christian. In that terms of atmosphere, you think there may have been some tension. However, her views were greatly appreciated by everyone there, and she was very well spoken. I was very glad that they included her in the discussion. She was a very honest and good hearted person who was by no means in the dark or misled as some will always say in regards to religion. Namaste.