Government to give every american 1,000,000

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by 371

Yeah but that's not what we'll get....

It's be a new system- based on greed and false currency....

what do you want 371? Would you still like to use $$$? Doesn't $$$ distract us?

The meek shall inherit the earth

Money holds us into ego and prevents us from "waking up". Take away a mans money then suddenly he listens.

[371]

Originally Posted by sammytray

what do you want 371? Would you still like to use $$$? Doesn't $$$ distract us?

Yes, and yes.

Considering I don't have any, yes I would like to have money to use. Does money distract us, yes- whether trying to get it or get more of it, and it does bring out the worst in people.

But a cashless society- hell no I don't want that!!

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by 371

But a cashless society- hell no I don't want that!!

Interesting. Can you elaborate on why?

[371]

Originally Posted by ralok_j

Interesting. Can you elaborate on why?

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by 371

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

371, what is your "IDEAL" situation WITHOUT these systems you talk about. Maybe then it would help with the "new Paradigm" of experience.

[371]

Originally Posted by sammytray

371, what is your "IDEAL" situation WITHOUT these systems you talk about. Maybe then it would help with the "new Paradigm" of experience.

Well, I guess the 'ideal' and REALISTIC situation would be to simply get the economy back on track. Sure it's corrupt, and greed-driven... But it works, or is at least work-able.

Life is unfortunately not all love and light, you can't have the good without the bad. Its about balance, and that's what I'd like to see- a balanced economy.

I know that's kind of a lame answer- but IMO it's the most realistic goal to shoot for right now at this point.

edit- that doesn't mean not to aspire to better paradigms, I'm just focusing on what could be attained NOW if things go right.

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by 371

Well, I guess the 'ideal' and REALISTIC situation would be to simply get the economy back on track. Sure it's corrupt, and greed-driven... But it works, or is at least work-able.

Life is unfortunately not all love and light, you can't have the good without the bad. Its about balance, and that's what I'd like to see- a balanced economy.

I know that's kind of a lame answer- but IMO it's the most realistic goal to shoot for right now at this point.

edit- that doesn't mean not to aspire to better paradigms, I'm just focusing on what could be attained NOW if things go right.

Thanks for sharing 371!

Isnt "balance" love and light? (light is darkness and darkness is light)

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

lol@ THIS THREAD.. THE IDEA IS TO BANKRUPT THE WEST AND FORCE IT INTO 3RD WORLD STATUS.. THEN HAVE WW3 ECTECTECT.. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT BACK TO SLEEP BY THE NWO ANASTHETIC OBAMA.. WE ARE SCREWED KIDS GET READY FOR MAYHEM.. THATS GOES FOR THE ENTIRE WEST

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by 371

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

I understand your position now. I thought you were against a bartering type of system. I agree with you, no chips!

[sammytray]

here is an idea.... TRADE KNOWLEDGE which turns into WISDOM which leads into ENLIGHTENMENT which breaks down ALL "old" systems.

[Truth voice 2012]

I agree with both sides here in some way. I too want to be rid of the monetary system also (because its a control system like all the others) however, Ive my brain twisted in a knot trying to think of ways of how it could work and for the life of me I cant think of anyway it could be possible. We are so conditioned at this stage now that our brains havent the neural capacity to create new pathways to see things differently. Oh well, NWO: 1,
humans: 0 on this one.

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by Truth voice 2012

I agree with both sides here in some way. I too want to be rid of the monetary system also (because its a control system like all the others) however, Ive my brain twisted in a knot trying to think of ways of how it could work and for the life of me I cant think of anyway it could be possible. We are so conditioned at this stage now that our brains havent the neural capacity to create new pathways to see things differently. Oh well, NWO: 1,
humans: 0 on this one.

Hmmmmmm

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by sammytray

Hmmmm again, it seems that this is what needs to happen. In order to bring change or a "new" system, the "old" must be purged, dissolved and gone. Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

We may want this, but the majority may be scared of this. In order to to facilitate the change the current system would have to be exposed and destroyed. People would have to come to the realization that money, material goods, and consumption are the tools that caused the failure. But would this be positive? What if we, as a race, lost the desire or ability to continue medical research and treatment? What if our life spans decreased to an average of 50 years?

[woodshreder]

This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by woodshreder

This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

This is interesting... no comment.

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by woodshreder

This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

Well yes... a comment

How does this help the "awakening" and being prepared for "new" cycles so that we can collectively bring on the "new Paradigm". I am certain Nesara teaches nothing about "who" we are and "what" we can "BE" or "BECOME"

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by ralok_j

We may want this, but the majority may be scared of this. In order to to facilitate the change the current system would have to be exposed and destroyed. People would have to come to the realization that money, material goods, and consumption are the tools that caused the failure. But would this be positive? What if we, as a race, lost the desire or ability to continue medical research and treatment? What if our life spans decreased to an average of 50 years?

Well put,

Are you saying why can't we have a smmmmooooth transition?

Are we aware of a possible DNA transformation/enlightenment that will occur, thus allowing for the "new Paradigm" - ?

Maybe we as a race will "evolve" into beings who can heal?

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by sammytray

Well put,

Are you saying why can't we have a smmmmooooth transition?

Are we aware of a possible DNA transformation/enlightenment that will occur, thus allowing for the "new Paradigm" - ?

Maybe we as a race will "evolve" into beings who can heal?

You can't have a smooth transition. People would have to be beaten up enough to want to transition to something new. They would have to have lost all faith in our current system and have such resentment for it that a new bartering type of system would be a welcomed approach.

Now if we did transform into higher beings and were able to self heal, we wouldn't need our current system.

[Seeker Mom]

This sounds wonderful. I'd love to be given a million dollars for doing absolutely nothing. Then again, people have killed each other for only a few dollars, so if this happened I'd expect the murder rate to skyrocket in this country. Lots and lots of people would not only want their piece of the pie -- they'd want yours, too.

[371]

Originally Posted by sammytray

That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

Yeah, and make ourselves even poorer...

[MMe M]

Originally Posted by 371

No offense, but that's absurd.

One word: INFLATION.

Yes.
Way more absurd than giving every concievable angle to the corporations and none to the people. Inflation is well beyond any resolve now. We are the ones that do the living, the dying, the working, and the paying of taxes. It is inconcievable to help anyone else!

Its a wise dog that doesnt bite the hand that feeds it.

[Dusty Nothing]

Maybe an economic collapse wouldn't be such a good thing for people who enjoy material possesions, wouldn't be so good for anyone if it is used to issue in the new world order, but do I want things to change? personally, I do, and if it takes an economic collapse to wake the masses then so be it, though I'm sure a more positive route could be taken to achieve this. What I don't want to see is a really rough period for humanity which leads to nothing.

Chaos is a necessary tool of evolution

[runcable]

I don't really understand where the thread starter wants this conversation to go although I do respect questioning the system.

When I read the suggestion about giving everyone "X" amount of money, I visualize pictures of Germans using wheel barrels to transport enough money just to buy a loaf of bread.

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by runcable

I don't really understand where the thread starter wants this conversation to go although I do respect questioning the system.

When I read the suggestion about giving everyone "X" amount of money, I visualize pictures of Germans using wheel barrels to transport enough money just to buy a loaf of bread.

Questioning the system, yes.

Establishing the truth that the "system" cannot repair itself with the "power" in place as it is today.

In additon, "We" the "people" should question our "attachments" Literally.

Maybe it was not the best way to bring up some points but my intentions were good and I am searching on a continual basis for answers. I appreciate and respect ALL who comment and share there view points. I have found that the answers "pop out" when more than one add there view points.

[Christo888]

Money ... virtually the most powerful boxing in tool of reality that TPTB have at their disposal, for without it most of your thoughts are tied to how to get it, and with it most of your thoughts are tied to how to protect it!

And this thread probably one of the most important subjects on Avalon that hons in on how the captivity of humanity has been established over eons.

This is a subject to work on!