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Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Description: Reply with quote tRiCkStEr tRiCkStEr Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 14430 Location: yeshe Some of my collegues have been having a dialogue on Post Traumatic Stress and its Treatment. I thought there might be some folks here who would be interesting in this ongoing exchange. Some of the language is a bit technical given who these folks are but it is an interesting exchange never-the-less for some nesters. Hello all: I ask about PTSD because despite working with it for going on twenty years I find that few people have a very solid grasp of what the basic problem is, and that even those who have had success describing and resolving this difficult condition (Somatic Experiencing--questionably the most indepth and advanced modality-various Danish school energy field therapies, to a lesser extent, EMDR, tapping, traditional SMR NF work, medications, et al) are rarely in agreement as to what PTSD actualy is, what caused it and how it is resolved. Most people who concentrate exclusively on trauma resolution now realize that the problem is first and foremost a physical, instinctual-level deregulation of the SNS, and that while there are emotional and cognitive components (often very robust), it's rarely productive to work "top down," and in fact, the big breakthroughs most often happend on the level of body sensations (sensations being the language of the brain stim). Once things are resolved on the biological and instinctual level, you can effectively move on up to the limbic and neocotex level (feelings and thoughs), but unless you do the instinctual level stuff first, the other interventions won't stick well, or at all. In PTSD, the biology is basically stuck, wound too high from hyperactivation (sympathetic overload) and (according to Levine and the SE folks) a whole slew of defensive responses need to complete. The fact is, those responses will automatically complete if a holding environment can sgtabalize the biology for a time. I've recently been trying to have clients lay down flat on their backs, place the MagStim on the frontals and the blue green glases on the eyes (both at super low power-barely on) and run an emwave at the same time. The combo can really calm a person down. Then, when you titrate or toggle between activated parts of their body and calm spots, the twitching and sweating and somtimes flopping (especially with very early trauma) kicks in and the symptoms start to unwind. The trick is to work very,very slowly, at at the lowest possible intensity. Those are my observations, and I'd be interested in hearing others who have seen actual energetic shifts (heat, sweating, trembling, et al) during training. JL Hi JL and All, I have used the pRoshi (nuro biofeedback flashing glasses ) with folks with severe ptsd. with very good results. Im thinking back on several and still amazed at what was possible with the pRoshi. I used the pR1 for weekly sessions of "talk therapy" and as the client's anxiety decreases and rapport and trust increased they were able to finally do the work on the traumas that afflicted them. I have used the pRoshi2 now for a month and am impressed with what Im seeing. I suspect than now I'll be able to get to the ptsd a lot sooner and I think that will be very helpful for a variety of reasons. After the anxiety lowers we did TFT or BSFF while they had the pRoshi on. Its a little tricky but they can tap with the glasses on. I really like using the BSFF protocol because it includes a forgiveness process that seems very helpful. After doing this on the major aspects of the trauma, clients usually have a noticeable improvement in symptoms. Interestingly, symptoms don't resolve totally but clients report a substantial improvement. Then we work on the residuals and ...sometimes this includes what I call transpersonal gestalt. When people have been perpetrated upon or victimized there is a sabotaging energy that can attach to them from the perpetrator and this needs to be released. After this release there is a tremendous shift in improvement and the client notices more peace, more energy, lower stress, and all symptoms decline.I highly recommend reading: Healing Lost Souls (William Baldwin); Freeing the Captive (Louise Ireland-Frey); The Unquiet Dead (Edith Fiore) I'd love to do a training of clinicians on this process which includes Energy Psychology, PRoshi and Regression work to complete the transpersonal gestalt processes. I dont know if this would be something that mainstream therapists would consider but I have certainly found it to be very effective. I'd like any input from group members on this idea.. Im going to include the BSFF process here. its the older version and Larry Nimms has a newer protocol that he teaches. He has a website and a book that can be downloaded. BSFF is one of the Energy Psychology methods. I also use TFT or Thought Field Therapy which is also effective. These are fairly simple techniques to use but it is helpful to have someone show you the points to tap. I'd be glad to talk to anyone about this process on the phone over the weekend. (I have no vested interest in BSFF or the energy psychology methods other than that I am a trainer in the TFT method, but have not done trainings recently) Ive posted this protocol previously but for those who may be new here it is again and this time Ive added some info from my notes that some might find helpful as well: Cheers, Marie Be Set Free Fast (BSFF)Trauma Relief and Rapid DE-Stressing Method by Dr Larry Nimms. Choose a positive word (or words) that you would like to recall whenever you are experiencing a negative emotion or stress. Words such as love, peace, horse, tulip or anything else that you view as a positive in your life, will do. Be creative. Roots means negative emotions. They are the depest cause of problems in the belief system, and are directing and controlling the problem. States means all the many levels of who we are, such as States of Consciousness. Each statement must be repeated until a muscle test confirms that the process is clear. If a statement will not clear after three repeats, re-test the set up and repeat if if necessary. Set up - Find and rub “the sore spot” (go to the base of the neck in front, go down 3 inches and right or left 3 inches. Feel around until you find a sensitive spot. Then repeat out loud/follow me and say): “I am saying this to my subconscious mind:. Whenever I a eliminating any problem, I am also eliminating anything that would make me keep the problem, ever take it back, ever passively allow or permit it to come back or ever be receptive to it coming back, even under duress. My subconscious mind will do this for r me. No further setup ever necessary – any further problems are already incorporated into the treatment process.” Muscle Test – “My subconscious will do this for me from now on” 1. Identify the problem/issue that you wish to resolve 2. As you think about (focus on) the problem, say or think the statements and tap on the points as outlined below. You will be releasing your problem/issue in all of the layers and in all of the personality states. 3. EB(eyebrow): “I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the SADNESS in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this_(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)____” (Muscle test: “SADNESS CLEAR.”) 4. UE ![]() & eliminating all of the FEAR in all of the roots & the deepest cause of all of this__(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)_____” (Muscle test: “FEAR CLEAR.”) 4. TH(top of head at crown): “I am gently & safely releasing eliminating all of the GUILT in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this__(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)____” (Muscle test: “GUILT CLEAR.”) 5.AW (Across wrist, palm side-tap with flat fingers):“I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the GRIEF in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this__(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)____” (Muscle test: “ GRIEF CLEAR.”) 6.EB (beginning of eyebrow):“I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the PHYSICAL TRAUMA in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this__(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)____” (Muscle test: “ PHYSICAL TRAUMA CLEAR.”) 7.EB (beginning of eyebrow):“I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the EMOTIONAL TRAUMA in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this__(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)____” (Muscle test: “ EMOTIONAL TRAUMA CLEAR.”) 8. WP (wrist point-depression at wrist directly below ring finger): I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the PAIN in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this __(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)____________: Muscle test: “PAIN CLEAR.:” 9. UE: “I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the SHAME in all of the roots & the deepest cause of all of this____(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)___” (Muscle test: “SHAME CLEAR.”) 10. LF/CF (little finger inside, base of nail or for RAGE tap side of eye crow foot) “I am gently & safely releasing and eliminating all of the ANGER/RAGE in all of the roots and the deepest cause of all of this __(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)_________” NOTE: without forgiveness, the anger work is not really complete. Make sure all the anger is released before attempting the forgiveness. Forgiveness for self is always done last. 11. IF=(index finger, thumb side, base of nail level) continuously, say (or think) three times, “I FORGIVE you (Mom, Dad, Pete, Sally, ___) and anyone and everyone associated with this _(example: shooting of my son and loss of all my friends due to misunderstandings and litigation)_____problem. I know that you were only doing the best that you knew how.” (OR “The best that you could.”) (Muscle test: FORGIVE OTHERS clear.”) 12. IF (index finger): “I FORGIVE everyone who in any way, at any time, has ever hurt or abused me. My recovery is no longer dependent on anyone’s apology or approval.” (Muscle test: “DEEP FORGIVENESS clear.”) 13. IF(index finger): “I FORGIVE you God/Lord/Father, I know that you are/were always doing the best/right thing for me.(Muscle test: FORGIVE GOD clear.”) 14. IF(index finger): “I FORGIVE myself - I know that I am/was doing the best that I can/could.” (Muscle test: “FORGIVE SELF clear.”) 15. Thymus: Tap clockwise with fingertips, in a 2 inch diameter circle, approximately 2 inches below base of neck) “As I leave this room and move throughout the worldk, I will continuye processing –and it will be easy for me. It will be gentle. I give myself permission to heal myself in all places of my being.” (Muscle test: “FURTHER PROCESSING clear.”) 16. Muscle test the entire sequence to make sure everything cleared. If not repeat. (Muscle test: ENTIRE SEQUENCE clear.) 17. From now on, whenever you experience a negative emotion, simply recall the positive word that you chose initially. Repeat the word or words (silently or aloud) until the negative emotion is completely gone. NOTE: This is the “older” version of BSFF. The Newer version is published in the book: Be Set Free Fast which is downloadable from the Web. This newer version in the book does not incorporate tapping but rather uses words to incite the subconscious to do the work. It’s a must read. Used with permission from Dr Larry Nimms. Dr Nimms does trainings and has a new training DVD out. Contact him via the Web: <http>www.besetfreefast.com. 3674 N. 159th Avenue, Goodyear, Arizona 85338, Business phone;: (623)466-4112. for Telephone Consultations, BSFF Training, Personal and Life Coaching. larry@besetfreefast.com Dr. M. Marie Green 877-670-3968 toll free, Ogden, Utah, USA <mailto>Mgreen<mailto>@xmission.com Www.xmission.com/~mgreen HOW I USE LARRY NIMS’ BSFF SET UP (as interpreted by Pat Esborg, so this is not “gospel” but just a guide!) NOTE: This only has to be done in the initial session. Explain the concept of energy pathways (acupuncture, etc.) and emotional blockages. Discuss briefly how the BSFF protocol can eliminate these “stuck places” and help the client get free of whatever is holding him/her back from being where he/she wants to be. Explain what emotional roots and deepest cause mean. (I say something like): Emotional roots: “All the things that happened to you which helped create and kept adding to this particular problem. They often begin to pile up from the time when you were very little. They get expressed most often as aspects of sadness, fear and anger.” Deepest cause: “The basic belief which is at the bottom of all this stuff...your ‘take’ on life and your place in it in relation to this problem (i.e. ‘I'll never be free’ ‘The world's not a safe place’ ‘I'm damaged goods’). Discuss Muscle Testing (MT). Say something like: “Your muscles will test strong or weak and that lets us know something about information which is hidden from us.” Get permission to try MT with the client. Demonstrate MT on paired statements/facial expressions, etc. so the client can see how the subconscious is her/his “faithful servant.” Demonstrate the BSFF tapping sequence on yourself. Mention to do it gently and with either hand. EB: “I’M ELIMINATING ALL SADNESS IN ALL OF THE ROOTS…AND THE DEEPEST CAUSE…OF ALL OF THIS PROBLEM” E: “I’M ELIMINATING ALL FEAR IN ALL OF THE ROOTS…AND THE DEEPEST CAUSE…OF ALL OF THIS PROBLEM” LF: “I’M ELIMINATING ALL ANGER IN ALL OF THE ROOTS…AND THE DEEPEST CAUSE…OF ALL OF THIS PROBLEM” EB: “I’M ELIMINATING ALL EMOTIONAL TRAUMA IN ALL OF THE ROOTS…AND THE DEEPEST CAUSE…OF ALL OF THIS PROBLEM” MT: “I can use this simple procedure to eliminate every problem I choose to treat.’” (About 1/2 test negative. Correct reversal by having them rub K27 (corrects for 25-30 minutes; take them through the BSFF steps now to correct permanently). Read this statement to the client before the first BSFF procedure: I AM SAYING THIS TO YOUR CONSCIOUS MIND AND YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS MIND: WHENEVER YOU ARE TREATING YOURSELF TO ELIMINATE ANY PROBLEM, YOU ARE NOT ONLY ELIMINATING THE EMOTIONAL ROOTS AND THE DEEPEST CAUSE (BELIEF SYSTEM) FOR THE PROBLEM, BUT YOU ARE ALSO ELIMINATING ANYTHING THAT WOULD EVER MAKE YOU KEEP THE PROBLEM, EVER TAKE IT BACK, EVER PERMIT OR PASSIVELY ALLOW IT TO COME BACK OR EVER BE RECEPTIVE TO IT COMING BACK. YOU WILL INTEGRATE ALL THE BENEFITS FROM THESE TREATMENTS INTO BOTH YOUR INNER AND OUTER LIVES, PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE.” M.T. “MY SUBCONSCIOUS MIND WILL DO THIS FOR ME EVERY TIME I TREAT A PROBLEM” INITIAL SESSION Unless the client has a pressing issue which overrides this. If you don’t do it in the first session, be sure and take the client through it in the next session. Check Self-Image/Self-Confidence statements (by MT each one) SELF-IMAGE (human being) I like myself I’m a good person I have personal value and worth I deserve good things in life I deserve to be loved…by myself…by God…by everybody I have a good mind I have a good body BSFF for all the “weak” ones. Re-check to make sure they’re all strong. MT: “I’m strong in all of these areas now.” If not, pin down which ones need further BSFF sequences, treat each one and re-check. SELF-CONFIDENCE (human doing) I am good at things I am a capable person I can learn to do most anything and do it well I have many talents and abilities I have a skillful mind I have a skillful body BSFF for all the “weak” ones. Re-check to make sure they’re all strong. If not, pin down which ones need further BSFF, treat each one and re-check. Note: Re-check Self-Image and Self-Confidence in the next session to make sure your corrections are holding, especially those relating to self-image. Treat as needed. Begin treating the presenting problem(s) with the BSFF sequences. AT THE END OF THE SESSION: TREAT: (anger at x, forgive x; then treat anger at y, forgive y, etc.) ANGER/JUDGMENT/CRITICISM/VENGEANCE/PUNISHMENT… At each person worked on in the session (if you didn’t do it during the treatment) + check to see if there’s anger at God, “Fate,” the world, life, etc. Check for HURT or DEEP HURT and treat. This should also clear SADNESS and FEAR FORGIVENESS: “I forgive you (mom, dad, etc.); I know that you are/were doing the best that you can/could” x3 “I forgive you (God); I know that you are/were always here/there and doing the best and right thing for me” x3 “I forgive you (world, life, etc.); I know that you are/were just being the way that you were designed to be” x3 MT: “I completely and permanently forgive x for this problem” FORGIVING SELF: MT: “I’m mad at myself/judge & criticize myself/ashamed and guilty about having these problems/not about to forgive myself for having these problems/…and for keeping them so long.” Tap Index finger and say: “I forgive myself, I’m doing (was doing) the best I can (could)” x3 MT: “I accept myself even though I have (have had) these problems.” MT: “I completely and permanently forgive myself for this problem” ..and I won’t take back/give myself permission to be free permanently/give myself permission to be completely free in every circumstance or situation I’m ever in” MT: “I will skillfully, alertly and consistently apply everything I’ve learned today.” MUSCLE TESTING PROBLEMS STRONG-STRONG: Polarity may be switched; doesn’t want you in; Discuss “resisting and letting go” MT: “THERE ARE EMOTIONAL ROOTS TO THIS PROBLEM” (explain) “MY SUBCONSCIOUS MIND KNOWS THIS INFORMATION” If both yes: “I AM REALLY WILLING TO UNCOVER AND TREAT THIS ISSUE” WEAK/WEAK or INCONSISTENT ANSWERS: “I DON’T WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM” or “I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS RIGHT NOW” Check also for exhaustion (treat by rubbing K 27) BLOCKED: “My subconscious mind knows the answer to this question” “I don’t want to know the answer to this” “There’s a part of me from the past that won’t let this problem go” “There is at least one other reason why I’m not resolving this problem” “I don’t want to test accurately on that issue” IF STUMBLE OVER WORDS: “I don’t want to remember these words” OTHER OBSTRUCTIONS: “I’m afraid one or more of the problems I’ve treated will come back” “I don’t trust myself not to take it back” “If I feel like a victim again, I might take it back anyway” “The treatment I did worked, but I took the problem back again” PHYSICAL: “This problem has emotional roots” If test negative, There are other problems which affect my condition: mental cause/physical cause/spiritual cause COUPLES: “There are problems in me which would be obstacles to having a healthy, fulfilling relationship with him/her.” TO CORRECT: Rub K27 10+ seconds…. Thymus tap NAEM (Negative Affect Erasing Method) (Fred Gallo) Tap third eye 1 min> UN (under the nose) x 5 > UL (under the lower lip) x 5 > tap K27 x15 NLR: (at sore spot on left chest) “I deeply and profoundly accept myself with all my problems and limitations” 3 times KARATE: (tapping the side of one hand into the palm of the other) “I deeply and profoundly accept myself even though I have this problem” three times Cook’s Curl Have them drink a glass of water Have them do “zipper” (wisk your hand from about the level of their knees up to their forehead to “zip up” their aura) Tap crown chakra Polarity switch…face ¼ turn in another direction Walk in place, swinging arms Cross crawl: Right hand to left knee (raising knee)/left to right while counting/humming 1-2 minutes. MT myself for doubt, etc. Have them hold rescue remedy (or bee pollen/spirulina) to see if that changes the test (it should correct a “switched” test) CORE BELIEFS I want to get over this problem…I want to continue to have…” (Rub the NLR…”sore spot” on left chest: “I deeply and profoundly accept myself even though I have this problem” 3 times) “I am willing to get over this problem” “I am willing to get over this problem now.” “I will do everything necessary to see to it that I get over this problem” “I give my self permission not to have this problem anymore.” “It’s O.K. for me not to have this problem any longer.” “I deserve to get over this problem.” “I will be able to get over this problem…I will continue to have..” (Tap UN…under nose: “I accept myself if I never get over this problem”) “I want to be completely over this problem….I want to continue to have some of this…” (Karate: ….”I accept myself even though I still have some of this problem”) “It’s safe for me to be over (completely over) this problem” (UN) “It’s possible for me to be over (completely over) this problem” “I will allow (not allow) myself to be over (completely over) this problem” “Getting over this problem will be good for me” “Getting over this problem will not hurt others” “I will not be deprived if I get over (completely over) this problem” “I want to live…(I want to die)” “I want to be happy…I want to be miserable” (NLR: “I deeply and profoundly accept myself with all my problems and limitations”) “I want to accept this treatment and fully receive it” “I want to accept this treatment and fully receive it starting now” VARIATIONS “I deserve: “to like myself” “to be a good person” “love” “God’s love” “to give and receive love” “to heal” “I deserve: “to be (wealthy, live effortlessly, be, be confident, be relaxed, etc.)” “I deserve to be my true self” “I’m willing to be (wealthy, live effortlessly, be, be confident, be relaxed, etc.)” You can also do BSFF on: “Any negative core belief or self-sabotaging belief that I’m not aware of” STOPPERS: “This stuff is too spooky” “It’s too hard to understand” “It won’t work for me” “My problems aren’t so bad…I can live with them a little longer” “I’m worried who will I be if I make these changes?” “I’m not ready to do this yet” “I’m afraid I’ll never get over this” SELF MUSCLE TESTING: MT: “I want to muscle test accurately on myself every time I test for anything” If negative: “I don’t think I’m smart enough….” (check also: deserve such elegant help/too weird/believe/safe/ possible/ allow/will hurt others/be deprived)… MT: “I can use my intuition to enrich my treatment”
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