Poor Gary Mckinnon

[murnut]

Originally Posted by freekatz

Why is it so wrong to "hack" into government computers? they are after all supposed to be civil servants paid for by our taxes, they are not holy people above us. We all know full well that governments all over the world are witholding vital information from us.

Do you consider governments "hacking" into our email, phone lines and computer IP addresses is acceptable but god forbid we should try and check up on what they are up to? I think it is gross hypocrisy on the part of the government and the laws.

So by your reasoning, murder would be okay since the Govt does it...right?

Besides that, Gary is not a US citizen.

[freekatz]

Originally Posted by murnut

So by your reasoning, murder would be okay since the Govt does it...right?

Besides that, Gary is not a US citizen.

Comparing computer hacking to murder is a little far fetched and infantile in my opinion.

I take it you would have as all click our heels and blindly obey rules no matter how arbitrary and unfair? Anyone who has the courage to break through the boundaries imposed by an oppressive system has my respect - I certainly don't see anyone being harmed by Gary's actions.

Being a U.S. citizen is neither here nor there, we are all citizens of this planet and the information Gary was seeking was relevant to us all.

Peace to you Murnut, I really dislike conflict

[murnut]

Originally Posted by freekatz

Comparing computer hacking to murder is a little far fetched and infantile in my opinion.

I take it you would have as all click our heels and blindly obey rules no matter how arbitrary and unfair? Anyone who has the courage to break through the boundaries imposed by an oppressive system has my respect - I certainly don't see anyone being harmed by Gary's actions.

Being a U.S. citizen is neither here nor there, we are all citizens of this planet and the information Gary was seeking was relevant to us all.

Peace to you Murnut, I really dislike conflict

We disagree, and I am allergic to cats.

I am trying to make a point that the way to defeat evil is not more evil.

Condoning hacking because ufology wants answers is no different than terrorists hacking networks.

Both think that they are in the right.

But let's assume for a moment that Gary is some type of noble Robin Hood, doing us all a favor, what happened to his balls once he got caught?

If he had any sense of right and wrong, he would have faced the music, but decided he did not like the tune of the consequences of his actions.

When the Ufo community anoints a coward as a hero, it is a sad day.

I don't post in reply to cause conflict, but to alert people that the reasons for supporting Gary are seriously misguided and hurt the credibility of work being done by the real heroes.

Gary was offered a plea agreement of less than 3 years and refused.

I have nothing against Gary, I feel bad that he has made so many poor decisions, but poor Gary has nobody to blame but himself.

Originally Posted by freekatz

Comparing computer hacking to murder is a little far fetched and infantile in my opinion.

So then...
If someone hacks a government computer..
And finds a list of names of foreign agents...
Then posts that list of names on the internet resulting in said agents being killed
How would you feel then?

What Gary supposedly found was a list of names...

IF these really were non terrestrial officers of some secret space fleet... and their names got out, their families could instantly become targets...