The Venus Project is a Pipe Dream.......unless....

[nivosh]

Hello dear friends.

I think that we miss a very important point.
most of the people are NOT ready for a true revolution which is not against PTB/FDA/Ilumanati etc' but rather against the domination of our ego.

when we truly understand the nature of ourselves and the simple fact that we CAN'T die, CAN'T be killed, CAN'T be controlled then our actions will reflect that wisdom and all of these institutions will be obsolete.

we will triumph not by a violent revolution but rather through a silent one, within ourselves.

this is the true battle which has been going for ages.

our job is first to educate ourselves, and then teach others what we have found.

time is irrelevant, there is only now.

and the practical aspect's of that is:

first, meditate.
second, be aware of your reactions to others, and others to yourself.
third, try to remember that you are an infinite and indestructible soul.
fourth, stay in touch with people that understand that language and are able to contribute to the conversation.
five, don't run away from your live and hide in the cave. make the change from inside the mess and the darkness.

i wish you all love and peace.

[Phosphene_Sparks]

Originally Posted by nivosh

Hello dear friends.

I think that we miss a very important point.
most of the people are NOT ready for a true revolution which is not against PTB/FDA/Ilumanati etc' but rather against the domination of our ego.

when we truly understand the nature of ourselves and the simple fact that we CAN'T die, CAN'T be killed, CAN'T be controlled then our actions will reflect that wisdom and all of these institutions will be obsolete.

we will triumph not by a violent revolution but rather through a silent one, within ourselves.

this is the true battle which has been going for ages.

our job is first to educate ourselves, and then teach others what we have found.

time is irrelevant, there is only now.

and the practical aspect's of that is:

first, meditate.
second, be aware of your reactions to others, and others to yourself.
third, try to remember that you are an infinite and indestructible soul.
fourth, stay in touch with people that understand that language and are able to contribute to the conversation.
five, don't run away from your live and hide in the cave. make the change from inside the mess and the darkness.

i wish you all love and peace.

This is all very lovely but really what evidence do you have to substantiate such claims? I really would love to believe the ideas of control and death you have here but i'm not having anything real to hold on to.

[raulduke]

Hi nivosh and PS, thanks for your replies.

I have always felt that what nivosh says about the "nature of ourselves" is true. Even when I was very young and my Roman/Catholic schooling was telling me that the "afterlife" is something to be feared, I was never fearful. This will sound crazy I'm sure but, the earliest memory I have was that of a dog. Yes, I might be crazy. My parents reminded me (while joking w/ their friends at a dinner party) when i was 8 or so that at 4 years old I was recounting tales of being a black labradour, and immediatley I remembered the same detailed visions. I remember feeling that there was an entire other life I had lead. As a youngster I just thought it was cool that I had these strange memories (because I love dogs), but as I grew up and had time to reflect, I began to think that if this was not a past life, then it was at least a sign that life goes on in ways we can't imagine. It's very off the wall, but in a way, that is the reason that I believe to be "immortal" for lack of a better word.

So I die, big deal. I'm actually looking forward to death, not because I hate my life or anything like that (I do feel like I have alot left to do/experience/influence here on earth), but because it will be a great adventure. What does concern me, is seeing my fellow human beings being exploited unwhittingly or otherwise. My life has been so easy, I've had plenty of daydreaming time to consider so many philisophical questions. I just want to do all I can to help others realise the limitations of their surroundings. I think alot of these "spiritual awakening" movies like zeitgeist can potentially cause poeple to turn them into a religion of sorts thereby skipping the critical thinking we would normally apply.

Nivosh is right, the real work must be done inside each of us individually, but we need to realise that, for things to be set right (here on earth), we all need the chance to do the work unincumbered by disinfo and mental manipulation. Forget zeitgeist, forget project camelot, forget what i have said, forget it all, what do YOU think?

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Phosphene_Sparks

This is all very lovely but really what evidence do you have to substantiate such claims? I really would love to believe the ideas of control and death you have here but i'm not having anything real to hold on to.

So why are you holding on to 'death' then? ;-)