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Old 10-15-2008, 08:51 PM   #1
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I believe rock music is no good for people who aspire spiritually. It's a low vibe offering which activates astral loosh to feed the negative entities.... physical and astral.

To understand why i say this from a metaphysical perspective see these 2 links where i discussed the problem with rock music with others under the poster name "nexus".

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5923&p=1

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=6233&p=3

Amongst other things my few posts talk about what is happening at inner levels to the chakras and finer bodies when listening to rock music. I am "nexus" over there.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:16 PM   #2
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Hi milk and honey,

I believe you don't think generally all rnr music. There is a bunch of modern music in line with chakras. Every music created without selfimportance or intention to bold virtuosity is in tune with everything. I'm musician too, and from my experience, hardest thing is to keep peace in balance, meaning without unnecessary parts which makes me smart when listening.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:09 PM   #3
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I believe rock music is no good for people who aspire spiritually. It's a low vibe offering which activates astral loosh to feed the negative entities.... physical and astral.

To understand why i say this from a metaphysical perspective see these 2 links where i discussed the problem with rock music with others under the poster name "nexus".

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5923&p=1

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=6233&p=3
Amongst other things my few posts talk about what is happening at inner levels to the chakras and finer bodies when listening to rock music. I am "nexus" over there.
Hello Nexus, I think we had this discussion also on Nobledreams as well didn´t we?
I think that saying rock music is bad is like saying internet is bad, or books for that instance.
Doesn´t it depend on the brand of music, intent from the artist, and the mood the listener is in?
Most music on the charts, i´d say, serves- just like most TV programs- as social programming and entertainment meant to keep people off focus.
I will not argue with you about the obvious. That most music is not meant to push the listener in a truly positive direction, with honest intent from the artist.
But that doesn´t mean that you will suffer deeply from hearing a rock song. Its not like its "anti yoga" , closing the chakras down or something.
Not all of it.

Personally i would be more negatively affected by a christian gospel, praising the "lord" and such, than by it´s counterpart like blackmetal or something. The latter is more easiler identified as a product of the artists frustration regarding the pain of living. Wich I have to say is more sane than the insanity of prising a world gone insane, like most popular music mainly does. Not to be interpreted that i consume such music. Its just that an angry rebel is easier to understand sometimes. Someone who rocks the boat can be refreshing and very needed at times.

I do acknowledge that you have given this a lot of thought and have a credible case. Its just that i´m living inside the world you criticise. Its my choice and rock music has liberated me from the soul-numbing world of sports. So im thankful. It was my initial escape route. And it still is.

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Old 10-16-2008, 04:21 PM   #4
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Hello Nexus, I think we had this discussion also on Nobledreams as well didn´t we?
I think that saying rock music is bad is like saying internet is bad, or books for that instance.
Doesn´t it depend on the brand of music, intent from the artist, and the mood the listener is in?
Most music on the charts, i´d say, serves- just like most TV programs- as social programming and entertainment meant to keep people off focus.
I will not argue with you about the obvious. That most music is not meant to push the listener in a truly positive direction, with honest intent from the artist.
But that doesn´t mean that you will suffer deeply from hearing a rock song. Its not like its "anti yoga" , closing the chakras down or something.
Not all of it.

Personally i would be more negatively affected by a christian gospel, praising the "lord" and such, than by it´s counterpart like blackmetal or something. The latter is more easiler identified as a product of the artists frustration regarding the pain of living. Wich I have to say is more sane than the insanity of prising a world gone insane, like most popular music mainly does. Not to be interpreted that i consume such music. Its just that an angry rebel is easier to understand sometimes. Someone who rocks the boat can be refreshing and very needed at times.

I do acknowledge that you have given this a lot of thought and have a credible case. Its just that i´m living inside the world you criticise. Its my choice and rock music has liberated me from the soul-numbing world of sports. So im thankful. It was my initial escape route. And it still is.
Hello Metaphor old chum.

I'd say that depending on the song itself and the mood of the listener, all rock music is relatively harmful including so called 'christian rock'. Some more so than others. But the reason is best understood from a metaphysical point of view. The spiritual experience is much higher than the emotional rush that rock music gives. The squandering of the light from the chakras can be exhilarating but that energy is poured down the drain (vibrationally) and will have to be transmuted in order to redeem it from the astral plane. Those noble realms posts linked above ^^^ elaborate much more than i can repeat here. Cheers.

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Old 10-16-2008, 06:07 PM   #5
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Hello Metaphor old chum.

I'd say that depending on the song itself and the mood of the listener, all rock music is relatively harmful including so called 'christian rock'. Some more so than others. But the reason is best understood from a metaphysical point of view. The spiritual experience is much higher than the emotional rush that rock music gives. The squandering of the light from the chakras can be exhilarating but that energy is poured down the drain (vibrationally) and will have to be transmuted in order to redeem it from the astral plane. Those noble realms posts linked above ^^^ elaborate much more than i can repeat here. Cheers.
I´d thought you´d say something like that. Its in line with your NR posts.
I understand your viewpoint, and it is perhaps correct if one chooses to see it that way.
I think that this could also be applied to sex (orgasm or not orgasm) and food (meat or not meat) as well if we are to speak about energies and vibrations.
I´m guilty of enjoying both rock music, sex and good food (veggie though) with wine or beer, and some chocolate overdosing now and then. It´s kind of the only thing that keeps from leaving this place. I want to taste the illusion before I go.

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Old 10-16-2008, 06:30 PM   #6
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Hey lennonmccartney, have you seen "The Buddy Holly Story" movie with Gary Busey? great movie and no mind control there, he did things his way.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:46 PM   #7
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Hey lennonmccartney, have you seen "The Buddy Holly Story" movie with Gary Busey? great movie and no mind control there, he did things his way.
Yes
loved that movie,yeah i think in the early days artist were not so controlled as today
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:04 AM   #8
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Its all horse pucky and purely based on the person who interprets the music.

I have heard so many violent styles of music that i know are just simple fun, Cannibal Corpse was a musical horror movie to me when i was younger, i don't think nor ever have i harmed anyone so its all harmless fun.

Some people in bands like GG Allen are obviously insane but others are just playing a role, a character and the good ones could always leave the business behind at the front door.

All music is an expression of personality and its the same when you hear it.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:07 AM   #9
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So i've been a musician for a while now, and i'm also aware of many different things going on and stuff and deep inside i know theres another side to rock music. My main influences of music are The Beatles,Beach Boys,Buddy Holly and etc...but what do you think? is rock n roll really as evil as many say...Do you really think that every big rock n roll musician is under mind control and believe in the occult and a satanist and all that. I don't think everyone is...maybe they pick just pretty controllable people, and most of the time they are not aware of what is going on and what they do. What do you guys think??
A song that might help! it is called: Ride On : And a nother song that wouldn't help! it is called: High Way To Hell :...
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Old 10-18-2008, 03:28 AM   #10
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Is this good, bad or meaningless? I put it together myself.

It's called 'Pass The Bilderberg'

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...songID=6247197

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Old 10-18-2008, 07:20 PM   #11
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Is this good, bad or meaningless? I put it together myself.

It's called 'Pass The Bilderberg'

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...songID=6247197

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Well done, I liked it, P.S. Are you related to Ray, from the Kinks?, probably not but figured I would ask.
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