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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: australia
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i agree with a couple of you on this. theres nothing wrong with eating meat. many people need meat to be healthy. i've spent over half my life living and working on farms/stations/ranches, so i grew up around killing your own meat, and have tried to go veggie. didnt work. not at all. i need meat to live. that being said, the way some meatworks operate is not good. also the waste factor. ever looked in the bin out the back of a fast food joint after closing?
if eating meat was so bad, why did all the old cultures eat it? australian aboriginies, native americans, africans, indians, asians , scandinavians etc etc. good call about everyone having to kill and clean at least once. i've met many people wo didnt know that lamb and mutton came from....gasp.....sheep!! thats what you all should be eating, sheep. lamb and mutton is just as(if not more) healthy than organic beef, it can be prepared more ways, and lets face it, sheep are very low on the ol setience factor. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
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I will re-iterate what I have said on another thread; I do not feel guilty for being an omnivore. The only thing morally "wrong" with it is the way modern industrial farming has destroyed the environment, quality of life for the animals, quality of meat for us etc.
I have serious doubts about vegetarian and especially vegan diets. Humans have been omnivores arguably for 2.5 million years. Our teeth and digestive systems are designed for both animal and plant sources. Some evolutionary biologists (as much as you may or may not believe in evolution) believe that is it precisely animal consumption that gave the impetus for language and social groups; animal proteins added to our stature, just like glucose in fruits and veggies fed our brains and made us "smarter". Out of the 7 vegetarians that I personally know, only one is actually healthy. The rest are rail-thin, weak, and suffer from nutritional deficiencies. This of course is because they are not meal planning or paying attention to their diets, even though most of them eat a wider variety of grains and veggies than the average person. The only one that is healthy is that way because she intentionally keeps a food journal and plans meals. Now what I want to know, is if a vegetarian diet is so "right" for humans, why is it that people on these diets can only be healthy if they are meticulously keeping track of everything? That is not normal at all. The human digestive system is an amazing laboratory; it can break down and synthesize exactly what it needs out of an infinite amount of various ingredients at various ratios. Meat eaters regularly do very well on their random diets, and they would do even better if the animals they ate were grass-fed and not injected with antibiotics and hormones. Vegetarians on the other hand don't do so well with a random diet. I would like to propose another solution; eat sheep. The meat isn't as tampered with (yet), and sheep don't destroy cropland like cattle do. Their milk is better balanced for the human body than cow's milk, and it takes a lot less to feed sheep than cows (by weight). |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Normal, IL
Posts: 111
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so sheep are to be considered less worthy of living than cows?
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,201
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(bad joke there) Seriously, there isn't enough motivation to eat healthy or lose weight out there. I lost weight 3 years ago, wasn't able to maintain it and gained it all back. Blah. |
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