10 Reasons to Stop Eating Beef (and other Fast Food)

[Jeff Delano]

I have to admit this, I once had veal, and oh my god, it was the best ever thing I've eaten in my life. I just wanted to try it once, I knew what went in to making veal at the time so I didn't want to make a habit out of it. I'll never order it again, but I have to admit that it is delicious.

This was a restaurant though, it wasn't fast food.

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Jeff Delano

I have to admit this, I once had veal, and oh my god, it was the best ever thing I've eaten in my life. I just wanted to try it once, I knew what went in to making veal at the time so I didn't want to make a habit out of it. I'll never order it again, but I have to admit that it is delicious.

This was a restaurant though, it wasn't fast food.

One has to listen to his body's cravings. If you feel you crave for meat,
it's probably because your body needs it.

By using your wisdom, you then say, 'hey i don't want an innocent young creature being killed'.
Instead, you say: 'i will choose a full grown organic beef that was respected in the process, and fed with good food.'

There seems to be different needs for different bodies: some are more protein type, some more in carbs, other vegetables etc...

On top of that, it seems that we all need animal proteins once in a while.
These needs are different more or less depending on your nutritional type.

In fact, i read somewhere (Stewart Swerdlow and Dr. J. Mercola) that it's scientifically proven that humans are a omnivorous species:
they will need an amount of animal protein for their DNA to replicate well,
and their body to stay healthy.


salute.

[Reunite]

ahhh..that's why the ancient hindu's in India didn't eat cows but worshipped them

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7830/cow.htm

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Reunite

ahhh..that's why the ancient hindu's in India didn't eat cows but worshipped them

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7830/cow.htm

So it says in India the cows were "used" by humans. "Cows provide milk which helps sustain life, life of adults and children alike. The by-products of the milk, yoghurt, buttermilk, butter etc were an integral part of their daily diet. Their dung was a free, useful, year-round fuel supply. Being tame, they were an excellent beast of burden. By pulling carts and ploughs, they were partners in technology that helped develop new frontiers in the Indian sub-continent. Even after death, their skins were useful in various ways."

I think even more important than animal protein in the human diet, is the animal fat from pastured and well-treated animals. Yes, there are some humans that can live well as vegan, eating nothing from the animal kingdom including milk and eggs, but there are many humans, esp those of Northern European ancestry that cannot. The fat in whole natural old-fashioned milk from cows grazing on green pastures is packed full of the fat-soluble vitamins humans need including "Activator X". With some fat in the diet a person will feel satiated longer and not have to eat so much volume.

http://www.realmilk.com/price.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html
http://www.nourishingwisdom.com/arti...food-diet.html

Factory farming is a cruel enterprise and I agree action should be taken to change this abomination. For the last 3 years my mom and I together have bought one quarter of 100% grass-fed beef from a local rancher. I never eat at the fast food restaurants.

I have studied the vegan topic for many years. I have decided each person must listen to their own body for some people have become very very ill trying to follow the vegetarian or vegan path.
http://beyondveg.com/

Some people do better to include some organic/grass-fed dairy, or some eggs from free-range chickens. I am the metabolic type from Northern Europe that needs some fatty dark meat (high purine) everyday - just a few ounces.

Dr. Kelley outlines his categories of 10 metabolic types here:
http://www.whale.to/cancer/k/Ch8.html

Since we can not all be vegan and be healthy, we can still stand up for the humane treatment of the animals that we use to carry our burdens and that sometimes feed us too.

[Humble Janitor]

Sure, we can stop eating beef.

But, then what?

How do you convince people who aren't fond of veggies or legumes to suddenly start eating both?

Originally Posted by BeaTnik-BandiT

There seems to be different needs for different bodies: some are more protein type, some more in carbs, other vegetables etc...

The basic truth is Amino Acids...

Our bodies have the ability to produce all the proteins we need but there are 10 (currently recognized) amino acids that we MUST get from food

Back in biology (a long long time ago in a galaxy...) we were taught that the body needs 42... (the universal answer ???) We could manufacture all 42 if we had 7 amino acids...

If just ONE was missing, a whole group could not be created leading to all sorts of problems and deficiencies and disease.

I have seen vegetarians sick all the time because unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing, a veggie diet will ensure you miss some vital elements

Hindus may worship cows... but they drink the milk thus ensuring they get that amino acid group.

American do eat too much meat... it has been estimated that 80% of Americans walk around with 10 to 20 pounds of putrified meat in their intestines... Talk about health issues from tat

But I think its dangerous telling people to stop eating meat without PROFESSIONALLY giving the alternative that is needed to replace the missing amino acids


Sadly doctors in the US do not care about prevention... No money in keeping people healthy

As to the animals PITA ran a campaign showing Col Sanders as a mad butcher and ran an ad saying you were a child molester if you fed you kids hamburgers.

Needless to say that kind of mentality serves no one

And don't you be wearing any leather shoes or belts... or I might think you a hypocrite

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by zorgon

The basic truth is Amino Acids...
....I have seen vegetarians sick all the time because unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing, a veggie diet will ensure you miss some vital elements

Hindus may worship cows... but they drink the milk thus ensuring they get that amino acid group.

Amino acids is an interesting point.Thanks for bringing it.
I am quoting (again) Stewart Swerdlow: He says that even animals that live out of a veggie diet, let's say cows or whatever,
get their dose of animal protein with multitude of insects scattered in the grass.

It seems that animal proteins are essential for optimum health.
When i said the needs where different depending on the bodies type, i was quoting Dr J. Mercola sayings that there are 4 nutritional types.

take care.

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by BeaTnik-BandiT

Amino acids is an interesting point.Thanks for bringing it.

Agreed. Even for those who dislike meat, they should eat cheese and yogurt and probably even a few eggs from time to time. A vegan diet is not suitable for the human animal in the long run, although with care it can be maintained for a while. In time the deficiencies will manifest.

Originally Posted by BeaTnik-BandiT

When i said the needs where different depending on the bodies type, i was quoting Dr J. Mercola sayings that there are 4 nutritional types.
take care.

Yes quite true... and that applies to medications as well, something I have noticed doctors seem to ignore.... You will see a prescription filled for a small frail old lady being the same as a 6 ft 280 lbs 30 year old body builder

Same dosage... no regards to age, body type, absorption etc...

Same for food... cravings help... its your body telling you what you need. Another big mistake many make (especially here in Vegas Land of the Buffet) is mixing too many foods in one meal. This can cause weird reactions.

They also discovered that calcium is absorbed by the body better in the presence of vitamin C and have now added Calcium to orange juice

We are basically a chemical factory

Market does weird things too like the VC from Acerola cherries is better than the VC from oranges Pure Ascorbic acid is the same no matter where its extracted from...

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by zorgon

They also discovered that calcium is absorbed by the body better in the presence of vitamin C and have now added Calcium to orange juice

We are basically a chemical factory

Ok. But if Magnesium is absent, Calcium cannot be properly absorbed.
It seems that people in industrialised countries are in a deficit of this mineral.

There is a fragile equilibrium at play here, between these 2 elements.