Space Scientists WANT to NUKE Saturn?

[Ali Quadir]

Read this...
Will Galileo Make Jupiter a Star?

Phil Plait is an expert in astronomy. I have followed him for a long time. He worked with Nasa. You can verify his material in the scientific text books. I'm sure it will all hold.

He has some "bad qualities" like his total rejection of all things religious and what he calls pseudo science. But his science is usually top notch. And his writing skills are a joy to read and easy to access even to non scientists.

So please visit his page and then forget about all this.

[Antaletriangle]

I understand and am aware alquadir about the propulsion system that was aboard Galileo-i was making a comment about how mad scientists could really be and if it ever did occur for some reason;a secondary sun in this system that it would have effects on Earth in one way or another.Seasons,Fauna and floral behaviour patterns,stresses on ozone and magnetic fields etc. etc.I've been on the bad science site before it's quite good,thanks.

[Operator]

Well as always mankind wants to blow things up ... and thinks that way.
(I think Nassim Haramein said that).

What I have read is that they gave the orbiter 2 more years because it still was functioning very well. There was a big meeting
with a lot of scientist who could bring their wish list and they made a schedule around that. As far as I understood they
still have the plan to crash it. And it will be done in 2010 ...

First thing that crossed my mind is ... the must have a dark secondary reason to postpone to a better date ...

Cheers

[Sol Invictus]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

Read this...
Will Galileo Make Jupiter a Star?

Phil Plait is an expert in astronomy. I have followed him for a long time. He worked with Nasa. You can verify his material in the scientific text books. I'm sure it will all hold.

He has some "bad qualities" like his total rejection of all things religious and what he calls pseudo science. But his science is usually top notch. And his writing skills are a joy to read and easy to access even to non scientists.

So please visit his page and then forget about all this.

HAHAHAHAHAHHA.....

Oh yes, thats right, listen to the man who's paycheck was signed by NASA and who pension is.... get my drift? he is no more going to stick his neck out than an NSA spook is going to write a history of their black operations and wet work.

As for Saturn, it has a very, very real chance of becoming one huge explosive reaction should a nuclear device detonate within it. Not maybe making a sun, but a collosal detonation and solar system wide effects.

[Sol Invictus]

However, let me reinforce this message.

Nothing will get acces to the 'gate' deep within saturn. Nor are the streamers going to allow it to detonate or else wise be destroyed.

Some folks are in for a rude awakenign and hasty demise should they try.

[Greg10036]

They better ask the people who live there first.
g.

[Powerinourhandsl]

"Oh my God! Its full of Stars"

[DapperDaze]

Or...the new model for stars is not completely explained with fusion and they had to go back to the drawing board. The new theoretical model is galactic electricity and superconductors (stars): Thunderbolt of the gods

Well, I feel I must respond to this. I do know a fair amount about fission-fusion weapon design.

I can tell you 100% that this assertion is total rubbish. For fission to occur, you can do it one of two ways.

You either a) fire two sub-critical masses together as in the 'Little Boy' design , or b) compress a non-critical mass into a critical one using some sort of force be it explosive, magnetic, laser whatever.

Now, Pu239 will fizzle if you try to use method a), so in order for 'Project Satan' to work, we will need some explosive packed around the RTGs on the spacecraft. Add to that, we also need an initiator (polonium works well), which is by design highly radioactive, and as such has a short half life. How long was that ship flying for?

Even if the Lizards, or whoever did manage to do all of the above, a fission bomb going off surrounded by hydrogen will not cause a fusion reaction! For fusion, you need very very high temperatures, and very very high pressure! In effect the Deuterium needs to be imploded from all sides. The Teller-Ulam two stage hydrogen bomb design used styrofoam as a plasma generator to create the hard X-rays required for the radiation implosion of the secondary fusion stage. Whist inside the tank of Deuterium, a fissile 'spark plug' was placed to provide imploding force in the opposite direction. The whole lot was levitated (spaced) to increase the 'hammer on anvil' blow of the fission shock on the Deuterium. Basically, it was very carefully designed to make it work. (Not all Hydrogen bombs have worked. The first British one for example was a failure).

Not much chance of implosion in the atmosphere of the planet is there? There is nothing to squeeze from the other side of the explosion!

So, you can all rest easy. Physics in on our side on this one....

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by DapperDaze

Or...the new model for stars is not completely explained with fusion and they had to go back to the drawing board. The new theoretical model is galactic electricity and superconductors (stars): Thunderbolt of the gods

is that where they found out the sun was just a big electromagnetic ball and not a hot nuclear reactor? or did they know before this??

[DapperDaze]

The electromagnetic part yes, except it is a new "theory". The movie goes into evidence that explains some of the inconsistencies associated with the fusion model, such as comets, neutrinos, black sunspots and I thought the computer electric-galaxy model was very cool. If you are into astronomy it is worth watching, all doom and gloom aside.

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

is that where they found out the sun was just a big electromagnetic ball and not a hot nuclear reactor? or did they know before this??

[Ali Quadir]

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Oh yes, thats right, listen to the man who's paycheck was signed by NASA and who pension is.... get my drift? he is no more going to stick his neck out than an NSA spook is going to write a history of their black operations and wet work.

He's not payed by Nasa... He used to work for them but is not working for them now. I was clear about this. Please get the facts straight.

There is an alternative to trusting this man......
Get an education and verify his words for yourself.


Seriously... You are absolutely 100% entitled to your opinions... You are absolutely not entitled to your own facts... If you want to vent opinions... Go right ahead. If you want to misrepresent reality, or make it seem like something else.. You are essentially lying about the facts. And while you're doing it, you're accusing good people of being bad people...

And what does that make you?



Now the person who suggested all this had no insight in the underlying science. He has put forward his warnings. That dropping the spaceship into Saturn WOULD cause Saturn to ignite... Nasa decided to do it anyway because one of the moons. Titan I believe has potential to contain live. And they did not want to take any chances in contaminating that moon. Saturn clearly did not ignite, the spacecraft just vanished into Saturn. This all was in the past. There is very little to discuss really...

Thank you Vlad.

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

That dropping the spaceship into Saturn WOULD cause Saturn to ignite... Nasa decided to do it anyway because one of the moons. Titan I believe has potential to contain live. And they did not want to take any chances in contaminating that moon. Saturn clearly did not ignite, the spacecraft just vanished into Saturn. This all was in the past. There is very little to discuss really...

WOW what a load of RUBBISH... Saturn 'clearly' did not ignite because Cassini has not yet crashed into it. The mission has been extended to 2010... Galileo crashed into Jupiter and created a huge black spot larger than Earth. They were planning to drop Galileo onto Europa... the water moon... but decided not to contaminate that pristine world and flew it into Jupiter instead...

You really ought to try to get your facts straight before you taunt us with that 'expert' Phil Plait

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

So please visit his page and then forget about all this.

No thanks Phil makes a living debunking others. If it wasn't for CT'ers he wouldn't have an income.

Funny how no one bugs him about the books and lecture tours he make money on, but if a whistle blower wants to sell a book the debunkers are all over him

Phil Plait and his buddy Jim Oberg... Send them on the next mission to Mercury