Benjamin Fulford

[CONDE]

OK ?

[Bill Ryan]

The transcript of the 6 September Benjamin Fulford phone interview has just been posted at Project Camelot.

Clck here

Kudos again to our extremely efficient transcription team. Guys, you know who you are.

Here is what you are saying... Would it be ok to kill a few men to save millions of lives, suffering, and grief? and you gave an example... which is hitler. And my answer is that it is not that simple... but in the end it is never ok.

Right now there is two problems with this that I can see.

#1. You use Hitler and his Nazis as the reference... and that if they were "nipped in the bud" millions of lives and suffering would have not happened. Now just because millions of lives are saved in this scenario doesn't mean life on earth would be better for it. This is an assumption. Perhaps this war averted something even worse...

#2. Your second assumption close the first, in that you think that the scenario will work out exactly the same each time. This is an exemplafied scenario... given by church, hollywood, government, and so forth. The general idea being that if you go out and kill the baddies life gets better for everyone. This approach has never ever worked through out history. Just look at iraq and afghanistan...

The problem is with the soil... greed, contempt, complacency, and whatnot is generates the environment for these types of things to happen. So kill one million "baddies"... they will just keep on coming back, like the teeth in a sharks mouth. As long as that shark has food to eat those teeth will keep coming back. But starve that shark of its prey... and it will whither away or leave to different waters.

And yes... in history there have been times where peacefull peoples have been conquered ruthlessly. The spanish inquisition is a good example... it could have been karmic... or something necessary for humanity to learn something about itself. I dont have all the answers... again its not that simple... but i will tell you this. All things happen as they should.

[SirKnight]

Conde;

Stop looking at me, it's freaky.

[CONDE]

I just came back from a lovely trip
Along the Milky Way
I stopped off at the North Pole
To spend a holiday
I called on dear old Ben Fulford
To see what I could see.
He took me to his workshop
And told his plan to me

They better watch out,
They better not cry,
They better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Ninja's coming to town!

He's making a list,
And checking it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Ninja's coming to town!

They see you when you're sleeping,
They know when you're awake.
They know if you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:

Thanks for helping save the planet Benjamin San !

: roll1:

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by CONDE

I just came back from a lovely trip
Along the Milky Way
I stopped off at the North Pole
To spend a holiday
I called on dear old Ben Fulford
To see what I could see.
He took me to his workshop
And told his plan to me

They better watch out,
They better not cry,
They better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Ninja's coming to town!

He's making a list,
And checking it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Ninja's coming to town!

They see you when you're sleeping,
They know when you're awake.
They know if you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:

Thanks for helping save the planet Benjamin San !

: roll1:

Very funny Conde






P.S. i just want to emphasize I don't want to make Mr. Fulford ridiculous, but it's just without any evidences I can't believe him - and that I express!

[CONDE]

I understand Mr.Liar but the absence of evidence in not
evidence of absence, as you know.

We have to learn to LISTEN to any man speak, and then be able to FEEL
If He's for real or if his message is a lie.

Yes, to FEEL the energy of the intent, try it you'll like it.
It is the "Buterflies" you and I felt as we listened to David Wilcock's Last,
know watta mean ?

All the Best, Frank.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by CONDE

I understand Mr.Liar but the absence of evidence in not
evidence of absence, as you know.

We have to learn to LISTEN to any man speak, and then be able to FEEL
If He's for real or if his message is a lie.

Yes, to FEEL the energy of the intent, try it you'll like it.
It is the "Buterflies" you and I felt as we listened to David Wilcock's Last,
know watta mean ?

All the Best, Frank.

KING LEAR!!!
not Mr. Lear


does no one understand an allusion/amphibology/pun?

[CONDE]

W E M L

Monarchs are passe, mr. Liar.

Your crown is fake, are you James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr ?

Well, it is interesting what BF is saying, but....

after the phone interview, I am quite convinced that David Icke has right and that BF is in fact controlled and used by the Chinese/Asian part of Illuminati.

"..... if you listen to David Icke, who makes a lot of sense a lot of the time, he’s actually saying that on an upper level, the Chinese are also run by the Illuminati behind the scenes. And that means there is a deeper agenda than just the one we’re talking about here that will motivate events in the long run. ......"

BF:
".....But the Chinese, as far as I can tell by all my connections, and if you look at the nature of their government and everything else, they are not doing evil in China. But China was under their control under Chairman Mao and they killed tens of millions of people. But after Deng Xiao-Ping got in power, basically the Illuminati lost China. They’re trying to get back. They have people they’ve been working on and bribing and whatever, but they don’t have control. But they have been negotiating and they’ve been trying to fool the Chinese. That’s my take on it."

WHAT?! The nature of their "government" after Mao is not doing evil in China?! What is about the killing of the students on Tiananmen Square in 1989?
What is about the absolutely brutal persecution of peaceful Falun Gong practitioners in Mainland China?! People are killed only for doing meditaion and Qigong?!
That is the same government, Fulford is talking about.... since the persecution has not ended and in 2006 it got known, that they even kill living people for selling their organs for transplantations?! (Look for more info at http://dafoh.org, Doctors against Forced Organ Harvesting).

Now, after this interview, Fulford is for me a puppet for the Chinese Illuminati who seek World Domination by 2020... at least some time in the 21. century...

A Chinese friend living outside of China, told me this year that a Chinese Man told her, that in 20 years, the Chinese will be the rulers of the World.
That is at least what they intend.

The Chinese regime is still communistic in the way that they think that they have to do a "violent revolution" every ten years, for only in this way, Communism keeps up with its progression.
In 1989 there was the student massacre,
in 1999 the persecution and killing of Falun Gong practitioners started.
2009....

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by Renewing

A Chinese friend living outside of China, told me this year that a Chinese Man told her, that in 20 years, the Chinese will be the rulers of the World.
That is at least what they intend.

Yes, but by this they mean more an economic domination and not a real control of the world.

China never was a expanding land/power, because they are so big. For themselves they are the center of the world and last themselves.

For example also India stated things like that, a PM or something said: "In future Europe will give their streets Indian names!"


Why wonder about such economic-chauvinism? The Western World encourages them in these thoughts every day! Just watch CNN or something else.

No joke, but in some African countries there ARE already streets with Chinese names, since many Chinese are coming to Africa in these days! (extracting, searching commodities and places to settle).
China is highly polluted, overpopulated and in need of commodities/raw materials...

Nothing against peaceful economic world domination, but against another Illuminati fraction, who just is doing the same evil exactly as the other Illuminati fractions....

And wanting to kill somebody is just evil in my eyes.

Every Illuminati fraction wants the domination above the others... that is therefore, they fight against each other.

Why also should the Chinese Illuminati fraction NOT want to be the (New) World Leaders? They definitely want, if you ask me....

Read this:
(I don`t think it will happen, but it is interesting what some old men in the regime think....).
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-8/31055.html
War Is Not Far from Us and Is the Midwife of the Chinese Century
Leading CCP official argues for exterminating U.S. population

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-5/30974.html
The War Is Approaching Us
Speech by a high-ranking CCP official argues for nuclear war

[King Lear]

Do you know, that there are uprisings by poor peasants and the rural population almost everywhere over China and every week, because of the predator-capitalism which destroys their living conditions?


So you see, China is not the monolithical giant as it appears.
It's very unstable indeed - if the capitalism, hand in hand with a totalitarian ruling Communistic party, goes on this way, China could change radically.

In a way we can't really foresee.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by CONDE

I just came back from a lovely trip
Along the Milky Way
I stopped off at the North Pole
To spend a holiday
I called on dear old Ben Fulford
To see what I could see.
He took me to his workshop
And told his plan to me

They better watch out,
They better not cry,
They better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Ninja's coming to town!

He's making a list,
And checking it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Ninja's coming to town!

They see you when you're sleeping,
They know when you're awake.
They know if you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:

Thanks for helping save the planet Benjamin San !

: roll1:

You're Hilarious

[333mark333]

In my opinion the Rothschilds have the seats of power- they have instilled themselves globally and have been running this reality since the 18th century.

[Natoka]

Folks, just a heads up here. I believe some posts are could be understood as getting perilously close to advocating "Assassination". Whether or not that is the intent, nothing could get this noble site shut down faster than this.The discussion is good but please be careful of your wording.

Natoka

[Brinty]

On the topic of one or no child families, think about this . . . . .

The world is in a sad state with an overpopulation of humans we are told. We are also told that the excrement is about hit the rotating blades. Something has to be done and done rather quickly. I, for the life of me, can't see any use in limiting family size from here on out. It should have been done years ago. If no more children were to be born from today onwards, how long would we have to wait for the total population to be reduced by the zillions that are spoken of by Dan Burisch?

[Shechaiyah]

I do not BELIEVE that this planet is overpopulated.

The enormous WASTE is due to corporate policy and consumerism, not to the legitimate needs of human beings.

Frances Moore Lappe in her study of this planet's ecology stated, this planet could sustain 50 BILLION humans, if we did not have parasites and predators in leadership who hoard for themselves.

Have you ever flown across the USA? It's virtually EMPTY! So's RUSSIA. So's Australia and Canada.

People have been sold this BS judgment that our planet is overpopulated; and it's simply not true. Greed and hoarding is what is true. Specialness and exclusion is what is true. Imperialism and war-mongering is what is true ... destruction of the productive capacity of the land for POLITICAL GAINS.

Filth runs this planet into the dust, and we let them.


Shech--

[MMe M]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

I do not BELIEVE that this planet is overpopulated.

The enormous WASTE is due to corporate policy and consumerism, not to the legitimate needs of human beings.

Frances Moore Lappe in her study of this planet's ecology stated, this planet could sustain 50 BILLION humans, if we did not have parasites and predators in leadership who hoard for themselves.

Have you ever flown across the USA? It's virtually EMPTY! So's RUSSIA. So's Australia and Canada.

People have been sold this BS judgment that our planet is overpopulated; and it's simply not true. Greed and hoarding is what is true. Specialness and exclusion is what is true. Imperialism and war-mongering is what is true ... destruction of the productive capacity of the land for POLITICAL GAINS.

Filth runs this planet into the dust, and we let them.


Shech--

Agreed! The population control bs is simply because we screw up their view with our hovels and clog the highways with our cars. They need less of us to do the dirty work. Truth is we do not need them (top 1% wealthy) at all so they must go!

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

I do not BELIEVE that this planet is overpopulated.



Have you ever flown across the USA? It's virtually EMPTY! So's RUSSIA. So's Australia and Canada.


Shech--

I can't vouch for the USA or Russia or Canada, but the reason that Australia is not wall to wall 1/4 acre house blocks is beacause of wall to wall stuff called sand, stones and rather large areas of rock and a climate that's extremely hot. On top of that, a serious lack of the one thing humans and most life can't do without - WATER!

[Shechaiyah]

This planet is not over-populated; that is PURE ILLUNINATI PROPAGANDA.

ONE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE believe they own 40% of the planet.

That's crazy.

They have no more right to forty percent of this planet than the man in the moon.

Let the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, Mellons, and Bush's GIVE IT ALL BACK.

Then there'll be enough to thrive and educated every human born.


Shech--

[taadev]

*Please be aware that the following represents a partial analysis of this disturbing conflict. That there were equally disturbing less high tech attacks on China. This post represents a study for which other details existed that provide support for the declared enemies in the Pacific and Asian theater were not any more 'good guys' than those of the ultimate masters of my forefathers during this conflict. Other information has since been learned of the limited materials for the making of these weapons of mass destruction. This post was the result of learning of the ultimate controlling the forces of my fellow countrymen in this period; many of whom appear to have been sacrificed just to prep the public for the entrance into the of war. The atrocities committed by forces aligned with the Hitler regime showed even less respect for the sanctity of human life and human dignity, although with lessor technology.

Is anyone else concerned with Fulford's apparent belief that the Rothchild's Euro banksters are a kinder, gentler crowd?

Also, despite escalations by those men behind the curtains of the 'great and wonderful OZ' happening everyday,nothing of which he wrote or spoke has come to pass.

When one takes an even superficial look at just WWII it becomes clear his perception of the Euros could not be further from the truth.

That together, both dynasties, financed by the Rothschilds, allowed, if not ordered, the destruction of much of Europe, England, Russia, and Japan, with the deliberate killing of millions of innocent elderly, women and children in the process. This, after making, perhaps literally, and backing the arch villain:Hitler and his Nazis.

One particularly disturbing act was the destruction, via a newly developed incendiary bombs, of Dresden where the ~250,000 refugees from Germany had gathered after the Red Cross had been assured Dresden was safe haven and would not be targeted. Indeed, the masses were led to this city where the true leaders surely knew would be the place where they would also be buried, at least those remains that survived the furnace. "Very little, if anything, happens in politics or war by 'accident' or 'mistake', although much is attributed to same."

Several reasons are given as to why the ancient and culturally significant city of Dresden, deluged with non-combatant refugees from the prior bombings, was not only attacked, but the entire city literally FLATTENED and burned with incendiary bombs..



The numbers of dead largely non-combatant elderly, women and children survivors, refugees went as high as 250K despite the war's end being clearly in sight.

Although testing of new incendiary bombs was suggested another more cynical reason was what to do with all the refugees with which soon they would have to deal.

The other acts of completely seemingly unnecessary obliteration, happened in Fulford's neck of the woods: Japan. I've read Japanese authors ask, "We can understand the first bomb, but why the second?" There are others that beg the question, "Would NOT one off the coast have had the same result of saving American lives"? The answer to this question might lie in the limited number of these weapons at that point in time.


Fulford, I believe, made note that they were bombed twice to break the will of the Japanese, and there likely is some truth to this, as those that survived this hell on earth did have incredible stories to tell.



However, could there also be more business like reasons for these acts of the so-called 'Total War Doctrine'?

When one studies the Freemason structure, its far reaching tentacles, ruthlessness well wrapped in philanthropy, primary business interests, methods of infiltration, incorporation into the military, local politics, and their total annihilation tactics, other possible reasons present:



Below is the main "Tools of the trade" of political control and wealth, symbolically represented.
(Please don't bother telling me what this symbol 'really means' as you should know double and triple talk too is a major tool of the 'adepts' slowly 'boiling' their Mason 'brothers', one degree at a time, lest they too jump from the proverbial 'pot' of the frog.)

Is this the current incarnation of the 'Feathered Serpent' of the Aztecs that DEMANDS children to be sacrificed to give his powers over others?


Could it be to prime the coffers of:
1) Freemasons with the massive rebuilding efforts;
2) Bankers with the massive loans required for same;
3) 'Control of population' with disease and direct deaths that's been rumored Freemason policy for decades;
4) To allow the Masons to play 'king maker' in the destroyed countries giving a foot into the local politics due to political contributions from their newly made 'kings'; last, but certainly not least: monetary policy that allows whoever to be paid off, from the "gift that keeps giving", the Bankster's Golden Goose we call the unFederal ReserveLESS Corporation.

This brings me to my present concern with the patterns of history, possibly, about to repeat itself, but this time in my HOMELAND: America. This concern is due to similar 'population problems' facing America, the current international media trend of casting/painting of Americans as Nazis, that could give rise to similar tactics as those used in WWII being tabled as solutions thereto. Also, noticing spinning in the international media against not just the corrupted American leaders and mainstream media, but Americans themselves. As if Americans really have had a choice other than those candidates tabled by and following the orders of, the CFR:Counsel of Foreign Relations. The latter of which has owned the American media and therefore the American mindset and politics for many decades.

The similar patterns are as follows:

1) The international media, indeed our 'allies', painting Americans in a similar manner as the Nazis, who when they return are so upset by the orders they were compelled to follow commit suicide at a rate never before seen, [~110 per week];
2) The looming crisis of the Baby Boomers having 'lost' [or had stolen by market control & fear mongering] their retirements and home values;
3) The fact the 'evil Russians' and 'evil Chinese' have built bomb shelters for their people, while the 'good guys' have only built them for the puppet leaders. Why no shelters for the "Baby Boomers"? Why move the corporate infrastructure offshore?
4) Our government being ordered to get our military involved in skirmishes on numerous fronts, stretching our military to the point that even our national guard will be unavailable to protect the people when the architected crash is complete and the false flag racist attacks begin.
5) The very foundation of what made America special, our beloved Constitution being systematically dismantled, piece by piece. Allowing not only American forces to be used against Americans, but also those of Mexico, many of whom are taught about the act of "thefts by the Gringos", but kept unaware of the their earlier thefts from the indigenous peoples here first.

Why? The deliberate inculcation of hate between peoples.

The precedent for the use of Mexican troops was established during relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina.



Is it now our turn, to burn Baby Boomers burn?

Have our leaders, both corporate and governmental, been led to their slaughter by their ever so clever masters of deception? Those who had no trouble laying waste to their 'Brother Freemasons' in Germany. If you truly think it could never happen you'd better take another look at some of the details of WWII and then honestly ask yourself if you're of any more value to these sociopaths than were the French, English, Russian, German and Japanese, and of course the those Jewish masses that were literally sacrificed in a 'burnt offering', [translation of Holocaust], to allow for a Jewish homeland?

In addition to the usual massive profits to the Banksters and Freemasons, look at all the looming 'problems' it would solve:

- Social Security 'ponzi scheme' problems with the converging 'Baby Boomers';

- "Overpopulation", with which Mexico too will struggle, and through NAFTA, have been forcing migration into the killing zone;

- Perceived and real threats to the ecosystem from the unbridled growth allowed to maximize profits from the backs of the apparently hated, by the UPPER Masons anyway: Christians.

- Massive, and increasingly unnecessary, labor pool that is nearing retirement, already fleeced out of the small retirements they did manage to squirrel away.

- Pressure on medical infrastructure with aging baby boomers.

- Ron Paul opening the eyes of young Americans with regards to the risks of having a taxing authority called a 'Central Bank';

- Opening eyes of Americans, of all colors, with regards to the corruption, not only in politics, but in our education system;

- Opening eyes to the history of the Moorish culture being the basis of the blossoming Greek culture upon which Western culture appears to be based;


1) The Rothschild's first made Hitler, perhaps literally, but few deny Hitler had the Rothschild's support at the beginning.

2) Support was then handed off to their American made counterparts, the Rockefeller dynasty, and here.

3) After allowing Hitler to destroy much of several continents we declare economic war on Japan. This via an oil embargo, and send our Aircraft carriers South in a 'war game', out of harms way to, apparently, allow Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. This appears to have been used to make Americans see red and demand war.

Who can say the probabilities this scenario will play out? Fulford noticed there are alternative ways out of this predicament through the development of alternative energy programs and regaining control of our currency and the power intrinsic thereto.

Let's hope our leaders and theirs, come to their senses and use the financial resources available to water the hidden seeds of potential growth. Thay they allow humanity to rise above the previous fuels of recovery, war, and halt our descent into the patterns of economic and social chaos.

What better 'shield of honor' could there be to have been responsible for humanities transcendence of war and redirection of many of these resources into a new 'Phoenix' of growth, profitability and the flourishing of the predominantly good human spirit?

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

This planet is not over-populated; that is PURE ILLUMINATI PROPAGANDA.

ONE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE believe they own 40% of the planet.

They have no more right to forty percent of this planet than the man in the moon.
Let the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, Mellons, and Bush's GIVE IT ALL BACK.

Then there'll be enough to thrive and educated every human born.
Shech--

[taadev]

I agree!

They should be captured and sent to a prison island, fenced in with 24/7 guards paid for by their 'charity' organizations.

These people, some sporting Crosses, some Stars of David, but practicing ethics more consistent with those bearing the mark of Satan or Lucifer, were likely RESPONSIBLE for Hitler. A group that would just as soon kill off as many of us in another concocted war as they would flies buzzing around their stench filled ethics.

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

Here is what you are saying... Would it be ok to kill a few men to save millions of lives, suffering, and grief? and you gave an example... which is hitler. And my answer is that it is not that simple... but in the end it is never ok.

Right now there is two problems with this that I can see.

#1. You use Hitler and his Nazis as the reference... and that if they were "nipped in the bud" millions of lives and suffering would have not happened. Now just because millions of lives are saved in this scenario doesn't mean life on earth would be better for it. This is an assumption. Perhaps this war averted something even worse...

#2. Your second assumption close the first, in that you think that the scenario will work out exactly the same each time. This is an exemplafied scenario... given by church, hollywood, government, and so forth. The general idea being that if you go out and kill the baddies life gets better for everyone. This approach has never ever worked through out history. Just look at iraq and afghanistan...

The problem is with the soil... greed, contempt, complacency, and whatnot is generates the environment for these types of things to happen. So kill one million "baddies"... they will just keep on coming back, like the teeth in a sharks mouth. As long as that shark has food to eat those teeth will keep coming back. But starve that shark of its prey... and it will whither away or leave to different waters.

And yes... in history there have been times where peacefull peoples have been conquered ruthlessly. The spanish inquisition is a good example... it could have been karmic... or something necessary for humanity to learn something about itself. I dont have all the answers... again its not that simple... but i will tell you this. All things happen as they should.

[dayzero]

It's almost impossible to actually read the colorful ranting above, as it's so angry, but i got through some of it.
And don't get me wrong - agree with you on a fair few things.

Not sure what you mean with Dresden, it was us, the British, with Bomber Harris in command, who finally flipped after the mass bombing of our cities over and over by the awful Nazis. Didn't make it right, but that's how it was.
Just because some history has been falsified, doesn't mean all of it has to be.

These days, all you hear about is Dresden. Not Coventry, or Birmingham or London or Liverpool or practically everywhere else in the UK.
And don't give me that 'just when the end was in sight' business, far too easy to see with hindsight.


Anyway, back to the OP - anyone heard from Fulford recently?