Dr. Steven Greer, Disinfo Agent? Details Please!

[lisa]

qbeac, trying to reason on this thread is like talking to a brick wall.
These people may agree with you, but they are paid to defend Greer/CSETI and intimidate those who question him.

[qbeac]

Originally Posted by lisa

qbeac, trying to reason on this thread is like talking to a brick wall.
These people may agree with you, but they are paid to defend Greer/CSETI and intimidate those who question him.

Thanks for your support, Lisa.

Besides giving my personal opinions on the subject, I am trying to present data I’ve found so that people can make their own judgement.

Imho, there is something suspicious about Dr. Greer, and that’s not how I thought at first. Before the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit-2009, I thought he was a hero, I helped translating his materials from English to Spanish (videos, sites, etc.). But after the things that have happened since then, now I see several important inconsistencies that should be clarified ASAP.

By now, we all have lost our naivety and know that the PTB uses the tactic of infiltration (double agents, gatekeepers, wolfs in sheep’s clothing), and uses professional debunkers to debunk all versions contrary to the official one (Psyops, Agent provocateur, etc.). The PTB may even use clones, or mind control, or other unknown sophisticated technology, or who knows what.

For instance, Jnana has given his/her own personal opinion of why Dr. Greer may not want to present the Pantone GEET motor in the CNN. Firstly, I personally don’t agree with Jnana’s arguments (for several reasons). And secondly, those are only Jnana’s “speculations” (or plausible deniability arguments) of what Dr. Greer may think or want to do, which may not even be correct (we don’t know). Maybe Dr. Greer has other reasons to do what he does.

So, in any case, it would be good to hear Dr. Greer’s own opinion about this matter.

Something that Dr. Greer could do to clarify these questions is to make himself much more available, don’t hide, participate in more public and open debates with his peers, like other people are doing (Alfred Webre, Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, etc.), and answer the hard questions that his peers (other experts in the field) and the regular people may present to him.

That would be something normal to expect from sincere and honest persons who don’t have things to hide or double intentions in mind (Ex: Alfred, Bill, Kerry, etc.).

For persons who have a leading role in the UFO field, it should be almost “mandatory” (or highly recommended) for them to participate in open debates if they want to have credibility, because truth is not afraid of lies. In open debates and in the long run, you can see and feel who is real or fake.

But Bill and Kerry have already said that it was hard for them to interview Dr. Greer because he declined several times.

In summary, if Dr. Greer does make himself available, that would be great. If he doesn’t, the suspicions will grow.

[onawah]

Originally Posted by qbeac

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So, in any case, it would be good to hear Dr. Greer’s own opinion about this matter.

Something that Dr. Greer could do to clarify these questions is to make himself much more available, don’t hide, participate in more public and open debates with his peers, like other people are doing (Alfred Webre, Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, etc.), and answer the hard questions that his peers (other experts in the field) and the regular people may present to him.

That would be something normal to expect from sincere and honest persons who don’t have things to hide or double intentions in mind (Ex: Alfred, Bill, Kerry, etc.).

For persons who have a leading role in the UFO field, it should be almost “mandatory” (or highly recommended) for them to participate in open debates if they want to have credibility, because truth is not afraid of lies. In open debates and in the long run, you can see and feel who is real or fake.

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I am definitely in agreement with this.

Disclosure across the board will make it a lot easier to get the news out there about various types of advanced technology that can be made available to the public. But what order the dominoes will fall in is anybody's guess.

It feels to me like we are moving into a new playing field now, of very creative and also very chaotic potential, so it will be interesting to see what happens next. It may be that things will unfold in a manner we never expected. IF it is true that stargates are opening up around the planet, whatever happens should be expedited considerably by the new energies coming in!

[Carol]

Originally Posted by lisa

qbeac, trying to reason on this thread is like talking to a brick wall.
These people may agree with you, but they are paid to defend Greer/CSETI and intimidate those who question him.

Lisa, no one here that I'm aware of is paid to defend Greer/CSETI or intimindate anyone who questions him. Your statement is clearly false. I support Greer because I admire him, the work he has done, that he has dedicated his life to helping others and is working toward Universal Brotherhood. I'm not going to change my mind about a man who has risked so much in his efforts to help humankind.

You implied that he came onto you and is a womanizer. You implied he is a cheat. You implied he is a fraud.

You may have been very disappointed by your experience and should just ask for your money back. However, I do question who you are and am aware when someone who hasn't grasped the basics of algebra enters into a physics class.. that person is going to feel lost. I suspect you were in over your head and are blaming everyone else as to being failures without looking at yourself first and whether you were really ready for such an experience. And I will share this with you... I've been involved in this field for years and don't even know if I would be ready. A couple years back when I sat out under the stars with Joan Ocean, when she supposedly was contacting ET with our group, I thought her nut was cracked and I'm a psychotherapist. I also paid around $1,500 for the 5 day experience and was also disappointed. However, I didn't go around trashing her or putting her down because I couldn't see what she whe was experiencing. And if it weren't for the photos which caught the pictures of the orbs I would have thought the whole experience a bust. There are photos of me being fully surrounded by them and yet during that time I didn't see a thing because I didn't resonate at the frequency these were coming in at.

Joan Ocean is also an amazing person who is out there on the fringe yet she is also a contactee and has experiences that even blow my mind away. It would not be fair to discount my experience with her because of my own personal failures and/or inexperience.

[tone3jaguar]

Yeah, that is why I am on unemployment and have 300 bucks in the bank. Because I am a paid disinformation agent by the Greer superstructure of disinfo people. Don't quit your day job there Watson.