Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[bigmo]

Does the knowledge of Thuban reside in the Akashic Records?

[Firstlook]

Hello Abraxas,

What of the "Forty Six and Two" theory.......

....by Drunvalo Melchizedek concerning the possibility of reaching a state of evolution at which the body would have two more than the normal 46 total chromosomes and leave a currently disharmonious state.[2][3] The premise is that humans would deviate from the current state of human DNA which contains 44 autosomes and 2 sex chromosomes. The next step of evolution would likely result in human DNA being reorganized into 46 and 2 chromosomes, according to Melchizedek.

......do you agree with?


Peace


joey

[Céline]

"To become the 'master' of your own thoughts is the first step to control the manifestations and from the mental into the emotional into the physical.

Without 'selfmastering' your own thoughts, you will remain in confusions."


First one must Master the self...

Yes i completely agree

I need additional clarification regarding - Logos, to understand the last answers.

I admit i was rather surprised...a lot of yes answers. It seems i can do better than i would think...think of myself...

Universal Logos = Christos = Forethought = Mosaic Law = Oneness = Source Energy ?


Each individual has its own Logos?
Logos of each individual have an effect on the Universal Logos?
Universal Logos can, in time, be changed via individual Logos?
By changing the Universal Logos = change of the archetypes?

So theoretically...sometime in the future...everything can be/will be different?

What does it mean to surrender to the Logos /Universal Logos?
How does one do that?

There are also other questions but at the moment i can not form them in most possible (for me) logical way (to make them as clear and as basic as possible).

[UncleJohn]

Hi Abrax,

I would say that the interface between consciousness and memory is of utmost importance. What you say abrax?

Where does your consciousness and memory reside Abrax?

Who has hidden access or control over either?

Thanks Uncle John

[Jacqui D]

Hi Abrax, well it is very late here, but i was determined to read through all the posts i have missed the last few days i have not been on Avalon.
Whilst i find all the numerical side of your writings a little confusing a pattern is beginning to form in my mind and i still struggle with some and feel totally inadequate at times with all these teachings i would like to say it has been an exciting read.
I am glad the posts have turned a little more positive i felt in previous posts that some were becoming and feeling a little overwhelmed with your work a little dark.
I understand that light and darkness was created and both has a part to play in this creation each playing against the other or mirroring in your words another way of describing it.
I also understand if i am correct and please correct me of i am wrong that when the new earth this 4th density which comes with the ascension will be totally thought form.
Free from solid matter then?
But we would have the free will to create in a rudimentary form.

I have always believed that we all need to be as innocent children again having none judgemental beliefs and seeing with heart not so much with the mind i know this has been instilled within us being indoctrinated into certain belief systems/religions/education and i guess worse of all our own parents setting a pattern which turned us basically into them.
When i look into the eyes of those innocent ones those tiny babies i see the true love the oneness which so sadly is lost, within a few months of birth.

I have been trying to connect back to past memories some have been given but so much more to understand.
I have also been having vast knowledge relayed to me recently continuously most evenings in a sleep state, very revealing to and i may add emotional things for me which i have always known since a little girl of who what i am.

I am a sceptic, strange thing to say really when i have my own experiences i do believe others i do not doubt and would never say this was not truth or is the truth i seem to have a mechanism within me that seems to click on when i read or take any information in, i am often told to use this mechanism and still i ask myself can i believe.

I had an encounter a year ago with two reptilians, this changed my life i was attacked by one it was a horrific attack and i guess i am still coming to terms with it.
If it wasn't for the mark they left on my right arm i may have questioned if it happened because it was like a nightmare but the mark substantiated this experience to be true.
I have been trying to find answers for this attack and why it happened to me, these were two warlords predator type beings.
I was told by the one that attacked me that "He had been looking for me for a long time" which made me feel he knew me and if he did how?

I don't know why i am telling you this i have wrote about this numerous times on this site and i should think most are sick of hearing about it now, but this was a very true and deep experience for me.
Someone asked me once was you frightened well yes of course i was, but you know one of the two preds was very kind to me and actually helped me and gave me healing. So i look at it differently now because i now know that not all reps are bad, as they are portrayed to be, just as we have good and bad in humans i realise we have good and bad in other races.
I have not entirely forgiven the one that attacked me i still find it hard but i know i must, i just want answers why me!

I have tried to be a good person all my life, i love all of creators creatures, i have spoken to mother earth she has helped me when i needed answers to questions i could not answer for myself.
I do believe i have been a victim of certain things which happen on this Earth, and i feel humans get a raw deal sometimes, being so dumbed down/memory loss and control, and i do feel we are controlled to extent we can not be the soul purpose of our problems there have been outer forces at and also.
Yet i know i have come here for this time to take on a commission as sort as so many today have.

Your writing has been in depth and intriguing.
thank Abrax.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Hi Abrax, well it is very late here, but i was determined to read through all the posts i have missed the last few days i have not been on Avalon.
Whilst i find all the numerical side of your writings a little confusing a pattern is beginning to form in my mind and i still struggle with some and feel totally inadequate at times with all these teachings i would like to say it has been an exciting read.
I am glad the posts have turned a little more positive i felt in previous posts that some were becoming and feeling a little overwhelmed with your work a little dark.
I understand that light and darkness was created and both has a part to play in this creation each playing against the other or mirroring in your words another way of describing it.
I also understand if i am correct and please correct me of i am wrong that when the new earth this 4th density which comes with the ascension will be totally thought form.
Free from solid matter then?

No Jacqui, the 3D earth will be the SEED for the 4D earth and the present solidity will be like the kernel of a peach say. The softness of the peach is somewhat like the 4D, in that a fluidity of form will accompany the present 3D rigidity. This analogy is technically inaccurate, as the peach is 3D and not 4D, but the simili is valid.

But we would have the free will to create in a rudimentary form.

I have always believed that we all need to be as innocent children again having none judgemental beliefs and seeing with heart not so much with the mind i know this has been instilled within us being indoctrinated into certain belief systems/religions/education and i guess worse of all our own parents setting a pattern which turned us basically into them.
When i look into the eyes of those innocent ones those tiny babies i see the true love the oneness which so sadly is lost, within a few months of birth.

Yes, whenever you look into the eyes of a newborn baby or puppy or kitten or such you are witnessing the presence of God. It is still there in the pets, if you have treated them honorably. The kids are forced by their environs to become like little egomaniacs, just to survive and this will change.


I have been trying to connect back to past memories some have been given but so much more to understand.
I have also been having vast knowledge relayed to me recently continuously most evenings in a sleep state, very revealing to and i may add emotional things for me which i have always known since a little girl of who what i am.

I am a sceptic, strange thing to say really when i have my own experiences i do believe others i do not doubt and would never say this was not truth or is the truth i seem to have a mechanism within me that seems to click on when i read or take any information in, i am often told to use this mechanism and still i ask myself can i believe.

I had an encounter a year ago with two reptilians, this changed my life i was attacked by one it was a horrific attack and i guess i am still coming to terms with it.
If it wasn't for the mark they left on my right arm i may have questioned if it happened because it was like a nightmare but the mark substantiated this experience to be true.
I have been trying to find answers for this attack and why it happened to me, these were two warlords predator type beings.
I was told by the one that attacked me that "He had been looking for me for a long time" which made me feel he knew me and if he did how?

I don't know why i am telling you this i have wrote about this numerous times on this site and i should think most are sick of hearing about it now, but this was a very true and deep experience for me.
Someone asked me once was you frightened well yes of course i was, but you know one of the two preds was very kind to me and actually helped me and gave me healing. So i look at it differently now because i now know that not all reps are bad, as they are portrayed to be, just as we have good and bad in humans i realise we have good and bad in other races.
I have not entirely forgiven the one that attacked me i still find it hard but i know i must, i just want answers why me!

I have tried to be a good person all my life, i love all of creators creatures, i have spoken to mother earth she has helped me when i needed answers to questions i could not answer for myself.
I do believe i have been a victim of certain things which happen on this Earth, and i feel humans get a raw deal sometimes, being so dumbed down/memory loss and control, and i do feel we are controlled to extent we can not be the soul purpose of our problems there have been outer forces at and also.
Yet i know i have come here for this time to take on a commission as sort as so many today have.

The rep attack you experienced can have many causes Jacqui. I'll try to derive some info...
Ok, this is what I saw.
At a time long ago, you 'stole some eggs' from a reptilian nest.
Now this might have been say 5 million years ago and you were not in human form, but in an early hominid form, say that of a Australopithecine or Homo Ergaster or HomoErectus.
You had children yourself and you foraged for food to feed your young ones.
Now something strange happened, because you saw the reptiles, say a pair of prehistoric crocodiles look for their young.
You felt this strange emotion then, that you had 'taken their children' to feed your own and a sense of guilt in a mother's empathy entered your consciousness and selfawareness.

From this time onward, you felt a strange affinity with the Crocodiles, yet you alse feared them because of your guilt.
Subsequently, over millions of years, you never processed those 'strange emotions' of empathy coupled to guilt and fear and your lifetime incarnations followed you through to this time, where your reptilian brainstem has awakened to finally process your million year old encounter.

A thoughtform for the processing then resulted in your nightmare coupled to a psychophysical marking from the superconscious.
This thoughtform was your empathy of imagining what you would do to the crocodile, should it attempt to 'steal or abduct' your children to feel its young.

The mirror image of this of course became the reptoid pursuing you and exclaiming:
"I have been looking for you!"

Your writing has been in depth and intriguing.
thank Abrax.

AA

[realitycorrodes]

Greetings abraxasinas,

Thank you for your previous replies to my questions.

I wish to ask you personally.

Do you personally eat animals?

Do the Thuban Council recommend eating animals (unnecessarily) to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Or do they recommend eating a vegerarian diet to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Or they don't recommend either of the above as in their perception it does not matter?


Do the Thuban council recognise that it is unnecessary for humans to eat animals?


P.S. I don't eat my friends the animals unnecessarily...in a world of abundance in the west at least ... it always looks unnecessary to eat our friends.

P.S. Don't our friends the animals enjoy ever right to a long happy life absorbing and processing the experiences of the earth program from their perscpective. Their purpose as a learning function is surely more than just becoming fertiliser.

P.S. I try to be harmonic. Love for me is harmonic. It does no harm! Killing an animal unnecessarily seems to be disharmonic to me? Eating the fruit form a tree and killing an animal seem very different things in terms of maintianing harmony.

At the end of the day, I wish to experience harmony so I try to live as harmoniously as I can without inflicting the great horror/ pain upon my friends the animals. Why is this so hard for humans to understand?


Wishing Peace and the end of ignorance to all sentient beings!

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by realitycorrodes

Greetings abraxasinas,

Thank you for your previous replies to my questions.

I wish to ask you personally.

Do you personally eat animals?

From the Thuban perspective I do not require food intake, related to the programmed lightbody following the metamorphosis,
From the human perspective I eat mainly vegetables and fluids, some fish and little meat.

Do the Thuban Council recommend eating animals (unnecessarily) to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Have you been to the Inuit country? There the diet is almost exclusively seal and fish; simply because nothing else is available there.
So your label of 'unnecessarily' is inappropriate in the Inuit country.

And yet the Inuit honours its seals and certainly does not engage in wanton slaughter. The seal is a close relative to the bear and the canines and so is rather closely affiliated with the consciousness evolution of the species interactions and the consciousness as a whole.

Or do they recommend eating a vegerarian diet to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Yes, generally a vegetarian diet high in alkaloids is more suitable for the human vessel and circulatory systems (endocrine, blood, nerve, intestinal etc); both in the ease of digestion and the containment of the biochemical nutrients.

Or they don't recommend either of the above as in their perception it does not matter?

We do not sit in judgement about what anyone eats. We observe what the 'health effects' are in the intake of substances and foods and then, following analysis, we may publish our conclusions.
One example would be alcohol in moderation has been found to be beneficial for the biochemical reactor; whilst the intake of artifical nicotine products has shown no beneficial effects at all, but has indicated many health problems.


Do the Thuban council recognise that it is unnecessary for humans to eat animals?

Yes, whilst the human genus has evolved to be omniverous, say with canine teeth reducing from the say canine or feline emphasis; a vegetarian diet can be entertained by finding appropriate substitutes for the proteins and vitamins required by the biochemical reactors.


P.S. I don't eat my friends the animals unnecessarily...in a world of abundance in the west at least ... it always looks unnecessary to eat our friends.

You are forgetting that animals eat animals and so some of your friends eat some of your other friends. I DO agree with your sentiments, but the time of the lion eating straw has not yet come. And yes there is no unnecessary 'slaughter and eating' amongst your friends.

P.S. Don't our friends the animals enjoy ever right to a long happy life absorbing and processing the experiences of the earth program from their perscpective. Their purpose as a learning function is surely more than just becoming fertiliser.

Yes, you have not understood my replies and are biased towards your own understandings and database.
The little ant in your garden is connected to ET intelligence and this is more than fertilizer, but relates to the Sharing of Consciousness.

P.S. I try to be harmonic. Love for me is harmonic. It does no harm! Killing an animal unnecessarily seems to be disharmonic to me? Eating the fruit form a tree and killing an animal seem very different things in terms of maintianing harmony.

That is what I said in my reply.

At the end of the day, I wish to experience harmony so I try to live as harmoniously as I can without inflicting the great horror/ pain upon my friends the animals. Why is this so hard for humans to understand?

What about the disabled zebra being attacked by a pride of female lions and being torn apart. This part of the 'Nature in Agony' has NO human input at all. Your sentiments are from the heart and in the 'New World' the zebra will NOT be food for the lions. Physical reality of the old world is more violent, as the 'sharing of consciousness' is 'forced' by nature's self-evolution.


Wishing Peace and the end of ignorance to all sentient beings!

To sit in judgement about the Natural World and its selfexpression can be considered to be a form of ignorance.

AA

[hippihillbobbi]

Abraxas --

I was reading some of the material i found on (one of??) your website(s) ..... some info apparently given by a reptilian from a race that has lived underground here for a long time. in general, i found it extremely interesting. the following question comes after an exchange where Lacerte (this reptilian's "name") tells her human interviewer that one or more of the "3 hostile alien races" here (she insists her race is not hostile to humans) have plans which somehow will cause harm to humans/humanity. Cue the interviewer:

Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.

Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.

AA -- what is your/Thuban perspective on this "alien's" answer?

and, one more question ....

Do Thubans or "Dragonized" consciousness have any inherently closer relationship to reptilian races than, say, 3-d humans do? i.e., do the archetypes of dragon/serpent as related to the original plan for this creation imply any special or "familial" connection between reptilian species and the body-mind-spirit complex known as Yeshua/Melchizidek [Logos]? (hope you can make some sense of what i'm trying to get-at here?!?)

As always, Abraxasinas, thanks so very much!

Hippihill

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

Abraxas --

I was reading some of the material i found on (one of??) your website(s) ..... some info apparently given by a reptilian from a race that has lived underground here for a long time. in general, i found it extremely interesting. the following question comes after an exchange where Lacerte (this reptilian's "name") tells her human interviewer that one or more of the "3 hostile alien races" here (she insists her race is not hostile to humans) have plans which somehow will cause harm to humans/humanity. Cue the interviewer:

Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.

Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.

AA -- what is your/Thuban perspective on this "alien's" answer?

I agree- You are the ants! This reference of yours seems unfamiliar. Could you give me the URL of where you found this. It is NOT Thuban material, but a background material for me to have commented upon to make a point just as this - You are the ants!

and, one more question ....

Do Thubans or "Dragonized" consciousness have any inherently closer relationship to reptilian races than, say, 3-d humans do? i.e., do the archetypes of dragon/serpent as related to the original plan for this creation imply any special or "familial" connection between reptilian species and the body-mind-spirit complex known as Yeshua/Melchizidek [Logos]? (hope you can make some sense of what i'm trying to get-at here?!?)

Yes, the simple equation is: Old Human+Dragon=StarHuman.
The Old Human is the reptilian brainstem, common to all vertebrates following the Reptilian emergence. The New Human then has a Dragon-Brain adding to the Triune Brain of present taxonomic classification.

A reference is Carl Sagan's book: The Dragons of Eden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dragons_of_Eden

The fourth part, i.e. the DragonBrain is the Melchizedek or Plumed Serpent agency.


As always, Abraxasinas, thanks so very much!

Hippihill

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by UncleJohn

Hi Abrax,

I would say that the interface between consciousness and memory is of utmost importance. What you say abrax?

To discuss this with you in a meaningful way, the terms 'consciousness' and 'memory' require definition. I did this before and was grossly misunderstood. To reurgitate philosophical treatisizes and 'schools of thoughts' does not result in progress, because the scientific definition for the terms are so vague and underdeveloped.

The only way for me to reply to you would so be for you to ask specific and not generalised questions as in the above.

But to try in a nontechnical manner; 'Consciousness' is a property of space itself. Without space no consciousness coupled to physicality can exist.
Then 'memory' relates to information storage, this information being obtained by spacetime interaction.
So consciousness relates to space relates to memory.
This memory CAN be modelled on that of an electro capacitor.
This then relates the capacity of space to collect and harbour energy in a storable way.
So this data-energy must become related to the energy pathways permeating the dynamics of space interaction.
So we return to what space is in terms of energy and where this energy does not have to be conserved in the material, say entropic sense; but MUST be more fundamentally linked to the data existing BEFORE space existed.
So the metaphysics enters in a data=energy nonmaterialised.
Then the data=imaginary before materiality and requires definition of a preenergy or a metaphysical superenergy (just labels).
This is your P=NP halting problem.
Whatever subsets you may create, the unity (say the NP) persists and CANNOT be subdivided.
As soon as you partition the VOID=Eternity, the hierarchies and holofractal nestings appear and by the Goedel Paradox of the Incompleteness, you require a STRONGER AXIOM or criteria to 'prove' the axioms.
The strongest axiom so is the NP-Unity as the Universal Set say.

etc. etc.



Where does your consciousness and memory reside Abrax?

Within the 11D-electromagnetically bounded universe, Uncle John. The quant count is a googol of so 147 digits.


Who has hidden access or control over either?

The Universal Logos, because IT alone spans and encompasses the spacetime quanta in summation and completion and expansion.

Thanks Uncle John

Your welcome

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

I need additional clarification regarding - Logos, to understand the last answers.

I admit i was rather surprised...a lot of yes answers. It seems i can do better than i would think...think of myself...

Universal Logos = Christos = Forethought = Mosaic Law = Oneness = Source Energy ?

Universal Logos=Christos=Forethought
Mosaic Law=Voided by the Logos in New Law as per NT
Oneness=Source Energy


Each individual has its own Logos?

Yes.

Logos of each individual have an effect on the Universal Logos?

Yes.

Universal Logos can, in time, be changed via individual Logos?

Universal Logos=Unity Template of Christos=Logos Spregovori+Logos X +Logos Y+...+...

By changing the Universal Logos = change of the archetypes?

No the Universal Logos is the only Logos, which CAN change archetypes. All individuated Logi can however attempt to change archetypes in the Name of the Universal Logos. Then if the Universal Logos agrees, the archetypes change.

So theoretically...sometime in the future...everything can be/will be different?

Things change every Now-Moment=Quantum of Time=1 3thousandth millionth billionth trillionth of a cosmic second.

What does it mean to surrender to the Logos /Universal Logos?
How does one do that?

You are surrendering to the Oneness of the universe in allowing your individual Logos to become a servant of the Universal Logos. This servitude is however cocreativity in partnership, say like a 'think tank' or a family discussion group or council.

There are also other questions but at the moment i can not form them in most possible (for me) logical way (to make them as clear and as basic as possible).

You are doing just fine.

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Firstlook

Hello Abraxas,

What of the "Forty Six and Two" theory.......



......do you agree with?


Peace


joey

Yes Joey, I agree with Drunvalo here.

The great Apes still carry 24 chromosome pairs.
About 5 million years ago the ape lineages split genetrically from the lineage evolving into the hominids.
This split fused the 2-Chromosome for the hominid line, but kept the 2-Chromosome as a pair in the apes.

This then reduced the chromosome pair count in the human to 23.

The 'defusing' of a chromosome into a pairing, not necessarily the 2- Chromosome, so will render the human genome as a 48 count again.

My information is, that the defusing will occur in one of the female X-chromosomes.

The symbol is the X=Y+1 in that one of the four digits making the X will separate (as a real physical rib of Adam) to mutate one of the mother's X-chromosomes into a female Y-chromosome.

This will 'resurrect' the original metaphysical supersymmetry YX|XY before the physical universe exited.

The reproductive quadroplex so will be:
YfXm+YfYm+XfXm+XfYm replacing the present YfX1+YfX2+XfX1+XfX2

So if you assign the present female X2 a 'disguised' Y polarity; then everyone's quadroplex carries a say Sodomic YfX2 and a Gommorahic XfX2 same sex attraction within the quadroplex and deriving from the undifferentiated XX-Babylon sexchromosomatic coupling.

Iow, everyone in the new dispensation will carry a harmonious distribution of the previously disguised maleness chromosome as a then renormalised and unified genetic selfexpression. This Thuban science labels the Natural Bisexuality of the StarHumanity in the HeShe-SheHe couplings and as indicated by the Logos in:

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

AA

[wilsonericq7]

[QUOTE=abraxasinas;231390]

Yes Joey, I agree with Drunvalo here.

The great Apes still carry 24 chromosome pairs.
About 5 million years ago the ape lineages split genetrically from the lineage evolving into the hominids.
This split fused the 2-Chromosome for the hominid line, but kept the 2-Chromosome as a pair in the apes.

I have heard a great arguement regarding the 'true' lineage of hominids; Abrax what have you heard about the "Aquatic Ape" Theory?

Link http://www.ted.com/talks/elaine_morg...atic_apes.html

Also, in reading your replys regarding planet/animal consiousness (Sirius-Canine consiousness, etc), what truth is there in the saying, "Humans are the dream of the dolphin?" This saying is just something I have been carrying around my whole life and don't know why. It is ok if you don't follow...I know its got me stumped for the moment.


As I take your advice to "Get Physical" (and it has had me scratching my head for days) in order to become more grounded, I find it hard to fly with the rest of you here. Your statement regarding my ability to self express in order to fill the void has me the most puzzled; yet am sure I will remember what my soul means soon. You have stated many times in this thread we are our own soul paired, doubled; with combinations of XY1 and XOX and such (I'm not making fun, I just don't remember). While it will all be clear soon enough, how is it we are individually paired/doubled....while at the same time still all part of the whole? "I am many in one, and one in many" seems to ofset each other. Are we not one or the other? How can we be both at the same time?

Finally, how do I learn more about Dragons and avoid all the distortions?

[Malletzky]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

...As I take your advice to "Get Physical" (and it has had me scratching my head for days) in order to become more grounded, I find it hard to fly with the rest of you here. Your statement regarding my ability to self express in order to fill the void has me the most puzzled; yet am sure I will remember what my soul means soon. You have stated many times in this thread we are our own soul paired, doubled; with combinations of XY1 and XOX and such (I'm not making fun, I just don't remember). While it will all be clear soon enough, how is it we are individually paired/doubled....while at the same time still all part of the whole? "I am many in one, and one in many" seems to ofset each other. Are we not one or the other? How can we be both at the same time?...

If I may reply to you in the matter of the red marked text above: and please consider that this is only how I understand this:

I often use a simple analogy when I try to explain the issue with 'many in one, and one in many', or as I state in my signature ...'and we are all one as I am one'. How is it that we are individually paired/duobled...while at the same time still part of the whole?

You just taka a piece of paper, torn it in two halves and then torn the one half in many small pieces apart...now you're seing 'MANY' small pieces that 'descent' from 'ONE'...These pcs contain the same energy and material patterns, they are one and the same with the previous, still in ONE, piece of paper.

What do you get here? You get the individual (small piece of paper) that is 'ONE' in consistence with the previous big piece of paper that used to consist of infinite 'MANY' pieces of paper, but before torning it apart.

This is also how I understand the saying that we were created in the image of God, as it means the same. The small pieces of papers are us and we're MANY, and we all descent from the ONE.

Following is an excerpt from Gio's Thread about Dan Brown's Lost Symbol:

Our physical bodies have evolved over the ages,
but it is our minds that were created in the image of God...

We are creator's, and yet we naively play the role of 'the created.'

We see ourselves as helpless sheep bufferted around by the God who made us. We kneel like frightened children, begging for help, for forgiveness, for good luck...

once we realize that we are truly created in the Creator's image, we will start to understand, we, too, must be Creators.

When we understand this fact,
the doors will burst wide open for human potential...

I hope this analogy helps you to understand your real YOU!

[wilsonericq7]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

If I may reply to you in the matter of the red marked text above: and please consider that this is only how I understand this:

I often use a simple analogy when I try to explain the issue with 'many in one, and one in many', or as I state in my signature ...'and we are all one as I am one'. How is it that we are individually paired/duobled...while at the same time still part of the whole?

You just taka a piece of paper, torn it in two halves and then torn the one half in many small pieces apart...now you're seing 'MANY' small pieces that 'descent' from 'ONE'...These pcs contain the same energy and material patterns, they are one and the same with the previous, still in ONE, piece of paper.

What do you get here? You get the individual (small piece of paper) that is 'ONE' in consistence with the previous big piece of paper that used to consist of infinite 'MANY' pieces of paper, but before torning it apart.

This is also how I understand the saying that we were created in the image of God, as it means the same. The small pieces of papers are us and we're MANY, and we all descent from the ONE.

Following is an excerpt from Gio's Thread about Dan Brown's Lost Symbol:



I hope this analogy helps you to understand your real YOU!

This was very helpful, thank you very much. To us...the creators...then.

Namaste

[Malletzky]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

This was very helpful, thank you very much. To us...the creators...then.

Namaste

You're

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

If I may reply to you in the matter of the red marked text above: and please consider that this is only how I understand this:

I often use a simple analogy when I try to explain the issue with 'many in one, and one in many', or as I state in my signature ...'and we are all one as I am one'. How is it that we are individually paired/duobled...while at the same time still part of the whole?

You just taka a piece of paper, torn it in two halves and then torn the one half in many small pieces apart...now you're seing 'MANY' small pieces that 'descent' from 'ONE'...These pcs contain the same energy and material patterns, they are one and the same with the previous, still in ONE, piece of paper.

What do you get here? You get the individual (small piece of paper) that is 'ONE' in consistence with the previous big piece of paper that used to consist of infinite 'MANY' pieces of paper, but before torning it apart.

This is also how I understand the saying that we were created in the image of God, as it means the same. The small pieces of papers are us and we're MANY, and we all descent from the ONE.

Following is an excerpt from Gio's Thread about Dan Brown's Lost Symbol:

Our physical bodies have evolved over the ages,
but it is our minds that were created in the image of God...

We are creator's, and yet we naively play the role of 'the created.'

We see ourselves as helpless sheep bufferted around by the God who made us. We kneel like frightened children, begging for help, for forgiveness, for good luck...

once we realize that we are truly created in the Creator's image, we will start to understand, we, too, must be Creators.

When we understand this fact,
the doors will burst wide open for human potential...

I hope this analogy helps you to understand your real YOU!

Your excellent reply bears repeating malletzky; thank you.

AA

[abraxasinas]

[QUOTE=wilsonericq7;232425]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Yes Joey, I agree with Drunvalo here.

The great Apes still carry 24 chromosome pairs.
About 5 million years ago the ape lineages split genetrically from the lineage evolving into the hominids.
This split fused the 2-Chromosome for the hominid line, but kept the 2-Chromosome as a pair in the apes.

I have heard a great arguement regarding the 'true' lineage of hominids; Abrax what have you heard about the "Aquatic Ape" Theory?

Hi wilsoneric!

The evolution of the human genotype DOES NOT allow for the idea of the 'Aquatic Ape' in physical propagation of the genesis.
In other nonterrestrial environments, the amphibious morphogetic bodyform may well be synchronized with the human template, but this would be more in the form of interdimensional hybridization, than an actual 3D evolvement; (see Nommo of the Dogon-Sirius mythology).

Link http://www.ted.com/talks/elaine_morg...atic_apes.html

Also, in reading your replys regarding planet/animal consiousness (Sirius-Canine consiousness, etc), what truth is there in the saying, "Humans are the dream of the dolphin?" This saying is just something I have been carrying around my whole life and don't know why. It is ok if you don't follow...I know its got me stumped for the moment.

The 'Pleiadean' humanoid archetype in the higherD perspective is that of the Cetacean.
So you can easily restate your saying in: "Humans are the dream of the Pleiadean!".
This then is indicated by some very good (like Barbara Marciniak) and not so good Pleiadean channelers or messengers.

The Pleiadeans so consider the Human as their 'time-travelled' ancestors.
The Pleiadeans so considerr the terrestrial cetaceans, whales, dolphins, porpoises as their real next of kin and Gaian amabassadors.
As I take your advice to "Get Physical" (and it has had me scratching my head for days) in order to become more grounded, I find it hard to fly with the rest of you here. Your statement regarding my ability to self express in order to fill the void has me the most puzzled; yet am sure I will remember what my soul means soon. You have stated many times in this thread we are our own soul paired, doubled; with combinations of XY1 and XOX and such (I'm not making fun, I just don't remember). While it will all be clear soon enough, how is it we are individually paired/doubled....while at the same time still all part of the whole? "I am many in one, and one in many" seems to ofset each other. Are we not one or the other? How can we be both at the same time?

When you 'make love' to your lover, then you are 'becoming as One', in projection your own individual selfhood onto your partner in a blending of the souls.

This is the manner of the duality seeking reunification of the self in sexual intercourse and the 'lovemaking'.
The proper archetype is 2nd Order in the divided polarity within the Unity, so defining your bi- or quadrosexuality within yourself.


Finally, how do I learn more about Dragons and avoid all the distortions?

I have posted a number of threads to Julissa, which describe the Dragon archetype from basic principles.

AA

[Nebula9D]

Hi All,

Haven't been here in a while, i have lightyears of infomation to catch up Thank you Abrax.

Originally Posted by bigmo

Does the knowledge of Thuban reside in the Akashic Records?

Good Question Bigmo. Abrax i wish to add to the question above. Are the Akashic Records the same as The Tablets of ALL. Or are all these names referring to the same thing?

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Nebula9D

Hi All,

Haven't been here in a while, i have lightyears of infomation to catch up Thank you Abrax.




Good Question Bigmo. Abrax i wish to add to the question above. Are the Akashic Records the same as The Tablets of ALL. Or are all these names referring to the same thing?

The Akashic Records are a commonly accepted (and so potently archetyped) label for the sum total Memory of the universe collected in relationship with the existence of the human template.

The metaphysical human template is as old as the universe itself; but the physical groupmind memory for this template is only about 20 million years old.

So since the Old World Monkeys of the Miocene (lasting from about 23 to 5 million years ago) and then in the Pliocene (to about 2.6 million years ago, when Homo Habilis appeared from the Australopithecines) and the last iceage ending the Pleistocene 12,000 BC (of Modern Man) - the Akashic Records collected data with respect the hominid evolution.

The Thuban records so encompass the Akashic Records in the archetypology applied to the humanoid template in metaphysical rather than in the physical terms of the Akash.
I am unfamiliar with your label Tablets of All. If this refers to the Mosaic Commandments, then the Thuban perspective is that the Mosaic Stories are archetypical in large extent and NOT grounded in physicalised history (which can be said to begin after the 'age of the judges' with King David and King Solomon so 1000 BC).

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Does the knowledge of Thuban reside in the Akashic Records?

Only to the extent that it has been published here or at the related links.

AA