Kerry, David and the Lizard Men

[Humble Janitor]

How are they supposed to infilitrate something that is in the process of exposing them?

I don't buy it.

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

How are they supposed to infilitrate something that is in the process of exposing them?

I don't buy it.

? really?

the PTB have infiltrated any and every group that has ever posed any kind of threat to them. whether it was the counter culture movement in the 60's, the womens equality movement, the black panthers etc. and those are only recent examples.

by inserting their agenda and agents into groups to either destroy them internally or get them off track from their goals. this has been going for a long time.

this should be a basic understanding of the PTB's tactics and history, time to hit the books and do some research.

all they have to do is have people on their payroll who legitimatley work for them become a "whistleblower" or "insider' and give 50% truth 50% lies and the conspiracy world eats it up, if you get enough of these people feeding you the same truth mixed with lies it suddenly becomes "cannon" and any info that doesnt fit the established insider testimony is swepped under the rug.

no researcher is exempt from getting hit with disinfo, not david icke, not jordan maxwell, no one. so knowing this is how things work, if 98% of the conspiracy world believes the grey/reptillian agenda, logically much of it must be bullsheeeeet.

and knowing this i pay more attention to info that contradicts the established "alien treaties" line of data.

you might "buy" this if you do more research which in my estimation you havent.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

[Céline]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

? really?

the PTB have infiltrated any and every group that has ever posed any kind of threat to them. whether it was the counter culture movement in the 60's, the womens equality movement, the black panthers etc. and those are only recent examples.

It must take up a huge amount of resources to constantly stay on top of all of this??!!?? They must think the pay off is worth it...

Having been part of a few action groups in my life ...i must agree..they are EVERYWHERE.

A benign example..would be school committees...

i fought to change the school boards in Montreal, from catholic/protestant to English/French..i dealt with it for almost 3 years...then left ..it stank of control in those meetings..it had little to do with education and our children and everything to do with pre ordained agendas..

i know, it seems like an unimportant example...but as a very young mother...it was an experience that was essential to my "waking up" process...

[wynderer]

Hi Celine -- i can't see the connection between your post & the reptilians -- ???

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[eleni]

My belief around reptilians (native to this planet before humans BTW) comes from direct interaction/experience during an aya journey. I'm also not the only one who has encountered them during an aya experience. He told me they were native to this planet etc;
I believe the bible teachings are responsible for distorting the truth around reptilians as well.
Now that doesn't include all the heresay about Draco's from another planet etc;
I found this to be a worthwhile read as well:
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...erta_files.htm


One thing to keep in mind about what Icke says about shapeshifting reptilians running the planet......
Demonic entities are conjured up during ritual (seen them myself) and yes, they can be looked upon as somewhat reptilian looking..although I would classify it more as a black devil creature.......those are the interdimensionals who are conjured up.......but remember during ritual many have been given psychotropic drugs and or there are genuine technologies at hand to make people believe they are seeing things that aren't normally there.

I am not of the belief that key people on the planet are reptilian shapeshifters.......my belief and dreadful experience's have led me to belive there are true demonic *forces* behind them but they themselves are not shapeshifters.

Keep in mind they need *talented* slaves to conjure up their entities......

The reps we hear about raping people etc; most likely come from off planet-
those are physical beings......

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

CLARK KENT --------- quote
by inserting their agenda and agents into groups to either destroy them internally or get them off track from their goals. this has been going for a long time.

this should be a basic understanding of the PTB's tactics and history---- QUOTE

im not convinced of reptilian things but do not discount entirely because how can you!!?
there was a lot of talk of greys ect and now nothing , whats happened to that topic fad?

reptilians seemed to be pure disinfo and laughable at first , a david ike fauxpar if you will, now everyone seems to be happily on the bandwagon..

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

CLARK KENT --------- quote
by inserting their agenda and agents into groups to either destroy them internally or get them off track from their goals. this has been going for a long time.

this should be a basic understanding of the PTB's tactics and history---- QUOTE

im not convinced of reptilian things but do not discount entirely because how can you!!?
there was a lot of talk of greys ect and now nothing , whats happened to that topic fad?

reptilians seemed to be pure disinfo and laughable at first , a david ike fauxpar if you will, now everyone seems to be happily on the bandwagon..

no no you misunderstand me.

im not saying they absolutely dont exist. im saying dont take it as a given that they DO. many sites/forums i go to talk about the reptillian/grey agenda like its an old indisputable fact, like the sky is blue.

for all i know there are invisible 9th dimesional reptillians controlling me through a matrix, who knows? im not discounting anything, im just saying be wary of all the disinfo about this topic and the fact that 95% of the conspiracy world believes this makes me think this info is suspect.

and im saying that its close to impossible to distinguish whats real and fake in a world where the gov can back engineer UFO's and hologram and mind control technology etc etc. how would you ever know whats real even if it happened to you (ie getting abducted by greys could be real or they could be Programmed Life Forms "P.L.F's" or it could be an induced memory via technology) knowing all the scenarios possible i really dont take much about ET's as "fact" or any agenda as "fact"

people talk on forums and say "oh well the reptillians think this way, or greys are doing this because of so and so, or 6th dimensional beings function this way.."

really? this is all 3rd 4th 5th hand info and speculation, info from books and websites etc, and even if it was first hand info when you take into consideration all the above technology and what it can do, everything is suspect.

[eleni]

Hmm.....I just found this...seems like Leo agrees with what I am saying as well....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTaVB...eature=related

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by eleni

Hmm.....I just found this...seems like Leo agrees with what I am saying as well....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTaVB...eature=related

this is the type of stuff im talking about.

thoroughly unverifiable. anyone can post some fiction and say "i was a skeptic until i had a conversation in the woods with an alien" then go on to make up a fictional story and see who buys it and how many times the story is circulated.

in addition to deliberate disinfo the internet is full of these 'accounts" that people put out as evidence when all it is someone with a good imagination.

im not discounting every story in existence about reptillians, but a random internet story with zero verifiable facts doesnt make the case for this phenomena at all.

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

-clark

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

agrees with clark kent again ..... lots of poop out there , look at the latest entry in benjamin fulfords blog, a well meaning chap who is nice.. do i swallow that story hook line and sinker? no! do i discount it entirely ? no! snippets may be true.

[silverlightning]

There really are no coherent narrative of the alien and reptile theories, neither of other dimensional worlds and different conciousness levels. Does Nibiru exist? Does the nibiruans still have any thing to do with humans on the earthly plane? This is to most people a matter of belief, spiritual experience, and esoteric theories. It's not about standard measurable facts, even though many wants to adjust this foggy landscape to known existing scientific theories.

There are many contradictory narratives about what's happening on the cosmic planes. If you don't have strong visions, clairvoyant dreaming, or any believable visionary you trust, you are left hanging there. There are no way to verify any of these theories in a scientifically accepted manner. Arguments and theories are on the levels of any religious belief. They are based on visions and on certain individuals experiences and dreams. These are not of the sort that can easily be reproduced and studied in a laboratory.

Some rely on techniques of symbolism, of understanding certain events in co-relations and in synchronous manner. The resulting narratives you get then are much the same as interpreting fictional literature, ancient myths and the classical epos. It is perhaps a new religion, it is a big narrative of humanity's place on earth, our place in the cosmos, the meaning of life, of right and wrong, good and bad; all unfolding in a very exiting story every one can relate to their own life if they want too.

[Fredkc]

Ok, I decided to copy/paste then expand my own thoughts on this, from the chat room...

There is a "never ending rabbit hole" quality to the whole story which I just can't buy. Very circular, as well.

Seems to start with some "valiant fight" against being totally controlled by some other entities. Well...

If we are that controlled, why/how are we fighting?
Spare me the notion that our "fighting" is a "supported/allowed illusion" because it helps "build or evolve" the species.
Just say it's proof we're controlled, why don't you. (small circles save time )

If we are fighting, and we are that controlled. why aren't we destroyed?
If the fight is genuine, then something is amiss. Why not just "re-cycle" the species? Kill us all, take the DNA and start over. We'd never know. Even if we did, or discovered it... circular again.

If an outside force is "preventing that" then we aren't that controlled.
Sure we are. Just not by who we think we are. Next circular argument, please.

Now, sooner or later someone will suggest that even that is part of the control.
So you come full circle, and start over again. Yawn.....

Then we come to the notion that some "higher intelligence" exists that finds all this to be worth their time.
Now, you have a non-3D species (supposedly "above all this")
which finds itself "in need" of something on this plane.

And try as I might, I just can't resist ending with a dumb movie quote...

"I don't believe in the no-win scenario." - James Tiberius Kirk

[clarkkent]

i agree completely with the last two posters, very well said both of you.

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

-clark

[Frank Samuel]

Even if the governments of the world came out with full disclosure about these and other alien beings it will still would be hard to accept. Logic and reasoning along does not always favor us in many things we have yet to understand. If one day there's some type of official disclosure it would take at least in my opinion about 3 generations or more to begin to understand what we are getting ourselves into. The ptb got themselves in too much pooh concerning the subject of aliens that it would be very difficult to get a straight answer.
Is easy to discredit anybody that is a whistle blower, if you do have hard evidence and you have a family to worry about , you have everything to loose and nothing to gain . The ptb are good at one thing is making sure that dis info is put out in such a way to discredit any credible witness,is not fair but such is life. So what's true and what's not is all in the eyes and ears of those who resonate with the info or not .

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by eleni

I found this to be a worthwhile read as well:
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...erta_files.htm

Yes anyone with even a casual interest in the topic of Reptilians, needs to be aware of this.

Recommended.

[Astra]

I read a shocking book called “Trance Formation of America”, by Cathy O'Brien. She says she was a victim of CIA MKULTRA mind-control, and that she witnessed (among others) George Bush physically shapeshift into a Reptilian alien being. There is a whole passage in the book in regards to this incident. She rationalised it as potentially being a holographic illusion as part of her mind control programming. I believe this book contains much truth.
Then there is Arizona Wilder, another victim of the mind-control program, who witnessed Illuminati blood rituals and recalls a prominent politicians shape-shift into reptilian beings. I know, I know, might be too hard to swallow! Look at the deception we live in! Look at the creators of the deception! I have never seen a Reptilian myself, but don't dismiss a possibility of their existance out there. I have been seeing other kind of entities, still not sure how to call them, though, and where they come from. They are like angelic beings to me that bring comfort, Love and Hope.

in Love and Light

Yours
Astra

[Zenbuoy]

Originally Posted by Astra

Then there is Arizona Wilder, another victim of the mind-control program, who witnessed Illuminati blood rituals and recalls a prominent politicians shape-shift into reptilian beings. I know, I know, might be too hard to swallow!
Astra

Fascinating video. Starts at 37:20 sec. Lot's of swirl around it when originally released by David Icke. Even a cohort disclaimed Icke and this work. My favorite is when she mentions Madeline Albright being a reptillian.

VIDEO - And then, she does an interesting bit of mentioning Zach Sitchin IS ALSO A REPTILLIAN. Drew flags for me in that she went on a bit about him in particular. Also see The Reptilian Agenda (with Shaman Credo Mutwa) by David Icke.

The most valuable bit of "Revelations of a Mother Goddess" is at the BEGINNING, - Icke's SUMMATATION OF WORLD CONTROLLED FINANCES outside the buildings in London where they divy up the coins.