Just saw Avatar

[beren]

One thing that really stuck the chord is how the corporation is being presented in the movie.
Greedy and lustful.
Yeah they are teaching natives english and rest but they only do that in order so the natives can peacefully go away and let the leeches dig the rock worthy of 20 mil.

Then they go to war against natives with typical BULLSH*T attitude of nowadays -you know who- in this world.

And also that mention of erasing the collective memory ...

I wonder will Cameron be silent afterwards just as brothers Watchowsky after Matrix...

[Jacqui D]

I'm seeing this tomorrow i can't wait, saw the trailer back in the summer and thought it looked good then.
Apparently there has been a lot of hype on GLP forum there is a discussion relating to how this flick has a subliminal program installed.
It has been said all who have watched it are now picking up sub conscious thoughts from others and the same theme is running through all!
We all know there is a lot of programming going on in these films TV/games etc but i am wondering what they have installed in to this one other than planting the thought that government/military are being played out as the bad guys and a race of peaceful beings are being over run and their home planet taken over Hm! sounds about right then.
This will not stop me from seeing it the effects look stunning i will be watching it in 2D because i think perhaps the 3D will be a little to disorientating for me.
I would be interested if any one has picked up on this subliminal messaging and how it affected you.

[GenerationIke]

Wes Studi, one of the great Native American actors, was the voice of the Na'vi father. I couldn't help but see many aspects of Last of the Mohicans in the movie myself. Why do you think George Washington was called Town Destroyer during the American Revolution? How many of you know of the Clinton-Sullivan Campaign in central New York against the Iroquois? Or even studied it in American History?

I was haunted for the remainder of the night by the message that the movie presented. But Cameron presented another message in his movie, I'm not sure anyone picked up on it or if Cameron did himself even. The fact that the natives communed with nature and their mother god Eywa directly. That is so pre THE FALL and not St. Augustinian Roman Catholicism. Man as good and innocent before the fall, man as pure evil after the fall. And man, this time, fights to maintain his pre-fall status rather than choose corporate, material greed and do evil.

In this movie Cameron presents the old Native American saying "walk a mile in another's moccasins" before you can truly know and understand the other person. That is what Tully did when he stepped into the body of his Avatar. He had to learn the other life's way of living in order to survive. And with it he learned to appreciate and love what was given to him by the spirit Eywa much more than the material wealth the corporate machine could ever bribe or entice him with.

I think Cameron is also sending us the message, we had better learn to let go of our greed, our selfishness, our egotism that makes us believe we are the superior race in this universe. Greed is neither good nor the essence of man or creation. And we are far from being superior as a babe is to an adult. Take only what is needed and then when you are finished, give back. Man has not done this since the fall. And we have not been taught well how to take only what is needed and leave the rest for others by our ancestors. (the manna from heaven story in the Bible.)

And one last thought to add, perhaps Cameron is telling the Corporate man in his latest offering to stick it. I am telling the world about the people of other worlds, how kind and as gentle they are as we are not.

[Gevaudan]

While walking through a store I noticed a child wearing an Avatar t-shirt. There were all sorts of Avatar products around. Later, while passing by a television set, I noticed that McDonalds has Avatar merchandise.

Now, I am in no way wanting to take away from the beautiful message of the story, but here is what I thought about while seeing all of the Avatar products:

[Frank Samuel]

The movie cost 400 miliion to make it I'm sure the investors are in it to make a profit. For the garbage that Hollywood puts out this movie is a gem.
Thumps up for James Cameron !!!

[Gevaudan]

For the garbage that Hollywood puts out this movie is a gem.

Absolutely. The massive marketing campaign will work on two fronts. The marketing will create a profit for the investors, while the story may cause a shift in the consciousness of its audience.

Opposite philosophies (materialism vs. idealism) attached such a popular focal point will introduce many others to the greater battle taking place. Perhaps some will remember why they're here and ready themselves for the unknown.

It would be a strange twist of fate if the very people who funded this massive movie were ultimately removed from power by the people who purchased tickets to see their investment.

[clarkkent]

theres all sorts of irony, cameron using the most cutting edge technology and pushing tech further than it has gone in order to deliver a movie that is essentially anti technology.

someone i was talking to said this was hypocritical and i argued otherwise, i said if your on a speeding train do you go from car to car to tell a few people to pull the breaks or do you get on the PA system and tell them ALL to pump the breaks. its essenitally the same thing and im sure he knows it.

great movie, the 3D is mind blowing, good sci fi is rare so i highly recommend going and making an effort to see it in its intended form...you will be seeing a lot more movies in 3D after this.

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by Gevaudan

Absolutely. The marketing will create a profit for the investors, while the story may cause a shift in the consciousness of its audience.
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This is true, the problem is most movies portray negative aspects of contact

and we always play the victim. The amazing story part of this movie is not only

could contact be an amazing thing, but it's not necessarily them as the bad

guys were just as guilty.

[giovonni]

I had the opportunity and delightful surprise of seeing AVATAR last evening with some friends.

In 3D WoW!!!

a truly wonderful magical~ mystically dimensional experience.
It!

This film could of easily been intitled Avalon

[UncleJohn]

I saw Avatar yesterday in 3D. One of the best movies I've ever seen.

[Indigocat]

Loved the film , not just for the great graphics but for a real and important story, one we have mostly forgotten .
Love how they understand that all is connected to mother earth, being the tree of life in this film and many cultures . Its a deep message of remembering the values that mean much more than money, greed , and sacrificing the many to satisfy the few . It portrays what is happening here and now right infront of our faces on our own planet ,and how we are willing to go beyond and rape other planets with no regard for what major affect it may have . I will be buying this when it comes our on DVD , and will probably become one of my all time favs like 'The Abyss' another great story we can all learn from .

[twoRone]

Indigocat... your avatar being from the movie avatar is profound unto itself!!

fractal much??... LOL

the movie was awesome and the message was even more..

528hz to you

[Gnosis5]

AVATAR HD TRAILER

[Swanny]

I think I'll wait a year just in case there is some subliminal stuff in there

[clarkkent]

theres nothing subliminal that you wont find in most hollywood movies. actually the themes and "message" if you will are all positive ones- be in balance with nature, dont kill indigenous people for corporate profit, were all part of the web of life.

and besides subliminal messages dont evaporate if you wait a year.

[lindabaker]

Hey, Swanny, just go see it. You can PM me with all kinds of grief if you don't like it. LB

[swordsmith]

just go see it because it is beautiful .

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I think I'll wait a year just in case there is some subliminal stuff in there

Good point, I'll probably do some EFT tapping before and after

[reggaeman]

did anyone notice the serpent on the side of the helicopter?? Strange how it was a giant serpent that saved the day also.

[mikey]

i saw avatar albeit ''illegally'' (making it even more better, for a lack of another word!)...the film holds many important messages to all viewers that can see behind the amazing graphics.
the story writers of the film surely must know what they are doing....one hopes

love and peace always
mikey

[NicholaQuinn]

I love this movie so much, I have also been to see it twice. Best film I have ever seen, and I love the Leona Lewis track from the film also.xxx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4jYr4502M0

[DiVineEnvy]

A sublime experience...I can't wait to watch it again in 3D!

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by reggaeman

did anyone notice the serpent on the side of the helicopter?? Strange how it was a giant serpent that saved the day also.

Thx for the spoiler

[reggaeman]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Thx for the spoiler

hehe it wasnt really but kinda

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by beren

One thing that really stuck the chord is how the corporation is being presented in the movie.
Greedy and lustful.
Yeah they are teaching natives english and rest but they only do that in order so the natives can peacefully go away and let the leeches dig the rock worthy of 20 mil.

Then they go to war against natives with typical BULLSH*T attitude of nowadays -you know who- in this world.

And also that mention of erasing the collective memory ...

I wonder will Cameron be silent afterwards just as brothers Watchowsky after Matrix...

I hope people realize the full impact of the movie and finally do something. I posted an old video of the protesting of what is happening in Peru on my face book this morning with a question.............Anyone watch Avatar ?

I actually started crying in the movie and I really didnt want to do that. Its sent a clear message of the "greed" of TPTB's. So far not one person has sent me a message on this..............so its the same old ****..............ignore it cause its not here yet.