Bill Ryan's thread

[petem]

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

[Frank Samuel]

Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.

I'll bet he has recalled events back further than that -- my memories go back before time, before this universe, and I know others who remember about 360 universes before this one, if time matters. Perhaps he just meant on this planet....

[Frank Samuel]

Gnosis, Yes I have also gain ancient memories towards the very moment of the creation of my soul. Understanding who we are is the key to restoring ourselves.
What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives . Going back 2,000 yrs of recollections is quite a treasure of memories.

[Phtha]

I asked Bill that same question and his response was scientology methods. You might want to read the new interview PC has up with Dane Tops for more info if you haven't.
You can find Bills answer a few pages back.

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives .

[Illusion]

I'm new here, but have been following Bill and Kerry for years, going all the way back to the Serp site. You both do such great work.

I recently heard your interview with Freedom Central, Bill, stating that it was all a game. This caused me to jon Avalon.

4 months ago I would have thought you were crazy saying life was a game. Now I completely understand it. I realized a month or two ago. I even said out loud. Okay, Game over. I know its a game and because I know its a game. The game is up! Nothing happened. The game continues. The synchronicities and strange happenings in my life, made me realize that it just wasn't possible, that I was living a "normal" life. I've also had Et in my life a few times. Wanted to let you know, that your not alone. Might even start a new thread to find out if anyone else is playing games lol.

From another Gamer

[Gnosis5]

Hello Illusion,

Welcome to the Game Over crew. I have given myself the assignment as part of the mopping up crew and we are mopping up by giving everyone a prize and sending them back to their Source. No sore losers in this GAME!

love,
Gnosis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qXT8...eature=related

Originally Posted by Illusion

I'm new here, but have been following Bill and Kerry for years, going all the way back to the Serp site. You both do such great work.

I recently heard your interview with Freedom Central, Bill, stating that it was all a game. This caused me to jon Avalon.

4 months ago I would have thought you were crazy saying life was a game. Now I completely understand it. I realized a month or two ago. I even said out loud. Okay, Game over. I know its a game and because I know its a game. The game is up! Nothing happened. The game continues. The synchronicities and strange happenings in my life, made me realize that it just wasn't possible, that I was living a "normal" life. I've also had Et in my life a few times. Wanted to let you know, that your not alone. Might even start a new thread to find out if anyone else is playing games lol.

From another Gamer

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Gnosis, Yes I have also gain ancient memories towards the very moment of the creation of my soul. Understanding who we are is the key to restoring ourselves.
What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives . Going back 2,000 yrs of recollections is quite a treasure of memories.

I can easily help you go Superconscious (a native ability) and view your own past lives. I have 150 hours of session notes that I have yet to write up about Hubby's prior existences. I work over the phone or SKYPE, but I'm not in the business and do it for informational purposes only. Like you, I am sometimes just curious and can't pass up such an open invitation here :-)

When I view my prior existences I use the pattersheet of R3X, which is published on the internet and in the "Files" section of Freezone_Earth Yahoo Group, or just email Robert DuCharme, the main instigator for R3X.

My former PEAT instructor, Karen Gould, gave me a blowout session that I will never forget. But CAVEAT EMPTOR -- grab the goodies and run.

[Gnosis5]

Petem wrote: "...feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world ..."

What does he mean by "woo-woo" world? I walk in several worlds so I don't know which one he is referring to. Is he one of those people who like to reject anything they do not comprehend by using baby talk? LOL.

cheers!
Gnosis

[Aztar]

Although all these puffed up chest displays and groupie mentality posts are interesting to watch from a psychological perspective, could we perhaps get back to questions ?

Hey Bill

Have you had any contact with Dan Winter?

I already asked this but may have gotten lost amongst all the swinging appendages.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Aztar

Although all these puffed up chest displays and groupie mentality posts are interesting to watch from a psychological perspective, could we perhaps get back to questions ?

Hey Bill

Have you had any contact with Dan Winter?

I already asked this but may have gotten lost amongst all the swinging appendages.

Okay, Lord Aztar, so sorry, my "BAD".

Dear Bill Ryan,

• Are you afraid to mention the name of the Annunaki?
• Do you have an awareness that each one of us can help heal the rifts between us and our ancient polar oppositions?
• Do you think I am puffing out my chest and being psychologically interesting or have you known better people than I who exhibit more abilities than I even can mention?

love with laughter,
Gnosis

[eleni]

Ha Gnosis- I love it. Their game is over as far as I'm concerned- the Annunaki can go take a hike.....

Wonder why they don't like to show their faces- reminds of the wizard behind the curtain.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eleni

Ha Gnosis- I love it. Their game is over as far as I'm concerned- the Annunaki can go take a hike.....

Wonder why they don't like to show their faces- reminds of the wizard behind the curtain.

SHHHHHH!! You'll get me in trouble -- please append a question to Bill on all your posts to me -- Aztar is not amused!!!


love,
gnosis

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by petem

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

yes, i'd like to hear why you did as such too. it seems bill deagle is "untouchable" ... but why?

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by petem

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

EXACTLY! i knew once clif found out what was being said about him, and his integrity, he would most certainly come to his own defense in some way. it did not resonate with me from the get go. and truly, was rather shocked that you Bill, would make something like that public, when it was not truth.