Camelot Clay and Shawn Pickering Audio Interview

[Lionhawk]

Thank-you first of all to Kerry and Bill. That was a difficult interview to do. A long one as well. I am sure they received tons of emails over that one and maybe not in a positive light. I would leave it up however on the site even though it wasn't one for the record books.

The reason why I say that is because I think it gave a good overview of how this stuff has been handled. Why it seems to lead to a dead end in terms of results. Clearly there has to be an agenda here hidden. Not by the Bros necessarily, but by this ET race. This interview is another example of a lot of the same trails leading to the same place. That place being an agenda.

I also don't get any ill will vibrations from the Gumbys. But why are they here? Especially in an environment that isn't compatible with their own physical being. If they have been whether on the surface or on a ship nearby, why expend the resources and several thousand years just for curiosity sake? Something just doesn't add up.

I always seem to deduce everything down to the DNA components of our species and the harvesting of that. Let alone all the other ET exploits that go on behind our back, along with all these factions just exploiting everything and everyone across the board here on the Planet. I just don't get it in this light. And then to also state that the Universe doesn't have a lot of livable worlds just starts to make feel less valuable than a cow.

This Planet is obviously targeted on so many levels that it makes my hard head spin. How are we supposed to overcome this? The rumor is that we already won. Whoooaaaa! Now that's a statement. But when I look out my window, what do I see? The same old manure with taxes being increased on that. ET factions mining our resources such as gold, eating our children, eating our brothers and sisters, in the meantime we are supplying the sweat equity so that we are also enabling these factions. Where's all the Love and Light in that? Can I rant here? When I ask the question of why are they here, I know they wouldn't be here if there wasn't something for them. I don't buy idle curiosity. I don't buy the idea that they are galactic engineers and are studying us for future worlds. They should ask permission to do so and respect our free agency if this world is truly ours. That also brings up another question that I have asked before. Is this world truly ours or is it our arrogance that gives us that false entitlement?
Anybody?

Maybe something we can do here at Avalon is get a big picture board and organize what we do know based on the proof that we have as to all of these agendas. I mean if they are entertaining a Warrior Forum Project, I would think that part of that would be to include all these known agendas, the who's who behind them in such a fashion that would give us a clear idea of what is going on and why. Just like this forum and all the threads are compartmentalized just like how the PTB do. But base it on the facts and facts based on the proof that we have. Or present such a picture board with all the probabilities and then proceed with the talents here to prove them out. What I see is that there are to many singularities with only one end game that matters. That being the truth. How are we to enter the Galaxy when we are so unorganized to represent this Planet in the first place? How are we going to command that which is our sovereignty as one with the Planet when we know really nothing of what is going on the very world we find ourselves on? I challenge anyone on this forum to at least try to answer some of these questions in a healthy way. If we never try then what are we going to do, because on present course we will all be victims of our own demise? I don't call that taking responsibility. There has to be a point where we have to take a stand somewhere. Then act on that.

I leave my ranting to you.

Blessings!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

Maybe something we can do here at Avalon is get a big picture board and organize what we do know based on the proof that we have as to all of these agendas. I mean if they are entertaining a Warrior Forum Project, I would think that part of that would be to include all these known agendas, the who's who behind them in such a fashion that would give us a clear idea of what is going on and why. Just like this forum and all the threads are compartmentalized just like how the PTB do. But base it on the facts and facts based on the proof that we have. Or present such a picture board with all the probabilities and then proceed with the talents here to prove them out. What I see is that there are to many singularities with only one end game that matters. That being the truth.

Are you saying include the picture board as part of what the Project Light Warrior website will offer?

[mntruthseeker]

I was told praying mantis were from the 8th Dimension by an insider who knows for a fact.

I heard the eating of our children bought up and denied which also bothered me. If they are reptilians its no surprise that they have used us for their meals for eons. So did some evolve out of that? This has been brought to my attention before. oh boy more thoughts popping up all the time

I too have many questions especially when its to be aligned with what TPTB's decide to do. Who needs them ? Who really cares if they are forced off this planet forever ?

I would like to see this happen without their assistance and I guess its up to us.

One thing I do know is I didnt walk away feeling any type of fear. We have no chance against them was said so we all know they could of taken us over anytime......unless it goes back to whether we ask for assistance or not.

NOT

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I heard the eating of our children bought up and denied which also bothered me. If they are reptilians its no surprise that they have used us for their meals for eons. So did some evolve out of that? This has been brought to my attention before. oh boy more thoughts popping up all the time

Maybe it's only the Draco reptilians that do this.

[mntruthseeker]

who knows Seashore The description of T-Rex was something else that made me think of the mantis

I guess I will have to go look at the site that was put out here once before that had some very good pictures.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

who knows Seashore The description of T-Rex was something else that made me think of the mantis

I guess I will have to go look at the site that was put out here once before that had some very good pictures.

I guess I don't understand.

You're wondering about the eating of children by reptilians (T-Rex) brought up and denied?

How does the mantis fit in?

[eleni]

Is there really any proof of reptilians eating people?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

Is there really any proof of reptilians eating people?

This is not proof, I guess, but Stewart Swerdlow writes about it in graphic detail in Blue Blood, True Blood. If you're not familiar with Stewart, here is his biography:

http://bielek.com/stewart.htm

[eleni]

I'm all too familiar with Stewart. I don't mean that in a negative way- I survived Montauk as well and indeed he was one small portion of my memory (as later confirmed by him) . That said........I am still quite awed at the *intact memories that seem to go on forever regarding these projects*. Why?
Because number one- drugs and serious mind control devices were implanted.

I have terrible childhood memories of Montauk (LSD, sexual situations, weird rooms ET's, murder, etc) yet none of my memories involve reptilians eating
people. That is not to say I am an authority on it, and maybe if I underwent hypnosis specifically on Montauk I would uncover way more than my conscious memories are allowing me to remember.

I do however remain skeptical of a lot of his claims. Not to say some are not valid- but many seem far fetched.
Please don't forget, A LOT of drugs and mind control went on there and it's easy to make people believe things using technology etc; we have to remember where the Montauk project originated from.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

I'm all too familiar with Stewart. I don't mean that in a negative way- I survived Montauk as well and indeed he was one small portion of my memory (as later confirmed by him) . That said........I am still quite awed at the *intact memories that seem to go on forever regarding these projects*. Why?
Because number one- drugs and serious mind control devices were implanted.

I have terrible childhood memories of Montauk (LSD, sexual situations, weird rooms ET's, murder, etc) yet none of my memories involve reptilians eating
people. That is not to say I am an authority on it, and maybe if I underwent hypnosis specifically on Montauk I would uncover way more than my conscious memories are allowing me to remember.

I do however remain skeptical of a lot of his claims. Not to say some are not valid- but many seem far fetched.
Please don't forget, A LOT of drugs and mind control went on there and it's easy to make people believe things using technology etc; we have to remember where the Montauk project originated from.

eleni,

I had no idea you had this in your biography!

In the chapters "Blood-Ritual & Ceremony" and "Ritual in Red" of Blue Blood, True Blood Stewart writes about himself functioning as the "Vessel" in sexual ritual involving the "God" and "Goddess."

Have you met Stewart? Another (former) Avalon member claims in this post that Stewart was not in the Montauk Project and in this post that he knew him personally, but would not give details.

My sense is that Stewart has overcome the mind control he was subjected to, but of course, I don't know. You said devices implanted. You're referring to a physical device that would have to still be controlling the individual? How about yourself?

You're familiar with Duncan Cameron, Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols and their claims? I am very interested in your perspective. For sure, the story is bizarre. I'm interested in what parts you think are untrue.

Bless you, eleni. You survived. Stewart has said most Montauk children did not.

Have you posted your story on another thread?

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

all this reminds me of one of my favourite computer games ever.. reptilians , star gates ect


intersting game ..

[Luminari]

Great interview Bill & Kerry!

Thank you Clay and Shawn

[eleni]

MNtruthseeker- I loved Robert Bruce's book- I feel it's one of the best books on inner journeying/astral travel out there.
How do you mean he can help?



I know Preston- not Al or Duncan C. Did you know Duncan O's father worked at Montauk?

As far as meeting Stewart and the thread you linked as well as my very long story in a nutshell.......

I am supposedly part of the Lebensborn program (Mengele genetics program) I was sold on the black market to a prominent family and I grew up on Long Island.

If I wrote my story it would out famous people who are still alive and I cannot do that due to my family circunstances.

So I can write parts of it. If my mother passes I wil write it all out (my adopted father is dead) however my biological mother is in hiding and has been for many years as she is still very scared. Hopefully one day she will come forward as well so that the public can gain a better picture of what this program entailed.

During her pregnancy she was moved to Nevada (from Northern Europe) after 5th month to New York where I was born. Her room mate was another
pregnant German girl. The OB/GYN who was in charge of the women during their pregnancies (name Dr. Weinberg) committed *suicide*. His daughter however is still alive...

My (bio) mother won't talk much about my natural father- she says he was CIA and he had *these eyes* and she was raped.......it's very traumatic for her to speak about.

I know I'm not saying anything of Montauk but I am just giving you my background info.

In late 2001 I was walking in the small village I lived in with my then 18 month old daughter. I was not living in NY- I have not lived there in 20 years.
A disheveled looking man walked up to me and said he knew me/recognized me. I said "really" and he said yes, you grew up on LI, right? I said "yes"
and he named the town I grew up on. I was intrigued. Then he said he had worked at Brookhaven and asked me if I knew it. I said I had heard of it.
He said- I know you from there and Motauk. I thought he seemed a bit crazy for saying all this but he was onto something as I had retained all these weird conscious memories. He then walked me over to his car and opened his trunk where he pulled out 2 books- one of them was Blue Blood True Blood . I went home and read them and I thought he was even crazier.

Not because of the subject but I just found SS's book to be far fetched.

It wasn't until years later that I even saw a pic of SS and I instantly recognized him so I contacted him. He said he knew me and that the man in the village was a plant and that the event was designed to be a trigger event.

I wish I could answer your question in regards to SS. I do recognize him though- very similar to the male I was placed with on regular basis back then but as I say that one closer to my age. I think I can say SS was involved at least in the Reichian portion. I have no idea if he was indeed sent to Montauk chair etc; I can say one other thing 100%- this is going to sound very weird but they had this way of placing one in an alternate reality/matrix where you were asked to carry out a duty (whether it be taking someone out etc) and you were led to believe you were another person. Hard for me to convey this so maybe this will make more sense this way- you can be such and such an age but they had the ability to make you older and another person entirely to carry out a mission (usually not a good one). I don't know how this works though- it seemed more real than strictly a form of mind control.

The 2 males I was placed with on a regular basis were closer to my age.
I do not know where they are now nor do I know their names. Only their faces from way back then.

Sorry, I have not provided more info on Montauk. It really would take my writing a book to explain whole story and there are parts I don't want to delve into as it's scary/traumatic.

Yes, I have an implant. I don't know who put it there (aliens or humans working with them) it's near crease where my ear attaches head on right ear. I can feel it. it emits codes. I wish I could have it removed.
People can see it too- there is a bump where skin covers it but you can feel that it is shaped perhaps like a tiny rod.

[eleni]

Seashore- Yes, the story is bizarre- there are so many parts to it and I certainly don't have the full picture because I was used in one portion (pretty sure) which involved the genetic program combined with Reichian sexual programming used to harness etheric energies (my analysis of it anyhow)
to further power their programs.

So I would be the last person to know. However I can say 100% that drugs were used on us as small children. Specifically LSD. I have memories of being on an acid trip as a young child. I really don't want to go there because it was very scary for me.

There were times when I would get back to my house with vomit all over my nightgown and everyone in the house was under some sort of deep sleep and I couldn't wake them up.

I used to wake up without my underpants. I would find them sometimes at the bottom of the bed or they would be missing entirely.

I need to stop writing this now- I am starting to cry.

[eleni]

BTW- on another forum (the one where Clay and Shawn and Source A have their own section) there is some interesting talk about the blob/biosuit ET's.

Seems they are from a lower dimension than us.Has to do with them being older containing different parts of which they are made up of. I found it interesting reading to say the least......

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

BTW- on another forum (the one where Clay and Shawn and Source A have their own section) there is some interesting talk about the blob/biosuit ET's.

Seems they are from a lower dimension than us.Has to do with them being older containing different parts of which they are made up of. I found it interesting reading to say the least......

Thanks...

Are you active on that forum, too?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

I need to stop writing this now- I am starting to cry.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

I know Preston- not Al or Duncan C. Did you know Duncan O's father worked at Montauk?

No, I didn't!!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

I am supposedly part of the Lebensborn program (Mengele genetics program) I was sold on the black market to a prominent family and I grew up on Long Island.

I'm starting to cry. It's going to take me awhile to be able to read the rest of this...

[mntruthseeker]

thats a very touching story and my heart goes out to you Eleni

For some reason I felt you needed help remembering your story but I see you have it all inside.

Robert Bruce is a man that everyone would love as he is such a kindred spirit

He helps people and from what little you mentioned I could tell you had quite the past. Nothing that I would care to venture and I know it was not your doings. He helps people move on so to speak

BTW- on another forum (the one where Clay and Shawn and Source A have their own section) there is some interesting talk about the blob/biosuit ET's.

Seems they are from a lower dimension than us.Has to do with them being older containing different parts of which they are made up of. I found it interesting reading to say the least......

hmmm then I can say for certainly that I do not care for this type of alliance at all. I am going to go check out their website or any other to see if I can find a picture of what they looked like.

My friend has assured me that many many are coming to help us and that I will trust.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by eleni

It wasn't until years later that I even saw a pic of SS and I instantly recognized him so I contacted him. He said he knew me and that the man in the village was a plant and that the event was designed to be a trigger event.

This kind of thing (trigger event) sounds very familiar to me after reading many Illuminati News posts.

Originally Posted by eleni

I wish I could answer your question in regards to SS. I do recognize him though- very similar to the male I was placed with on regular basis back then but as I say that one closer to my age. I think I can say SS was involved at least in the Reichian portion. I have no idea if he was indeed sent to Montauk chair

In my mind I associate the chair more with Duncan Cameron than Stewart. I just checked my copy of Stewart’s Montauk – The Alien Connection. It says, “At Montauk, I was also trained to feed energy and information to the psychic in the chair who was hooked up to mind control computers.”

Originally Posted by eleni

you can be such and such an age but they had the ability to make you older and another person entirely to carry out a mission

Absolutely fascinating. And no crazier than time travel.

Originally Posted by eleni

Yes, I have an implant. I don't know who put it there (aliens or humans working with them) it's near crease where my ear attaches head on right ear. I can feel it. it emits codes. I wish I could have it removed. People can see it too- there is a bump where skin covers it but you can feel that it is shaped perhaps like a tiny rod.

You can’t have it removed because it would endanger you?

[golfsierra]

Originally Posted by Seashore

You're familiar with Duncan Cameron, Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols and their claims? I am very interested in your perspective. For sure, the story is bizarre. I'm interested in what parts you think are untrue.

Bizarre is not the right term for it - it's a blatant lie.

Al Bielek (his full name is Alfred Bielek) was proven to be a liar and hoaxer already in 2003. Wondering, why people still refer to his utter nonsense, maybe because his bedtime stories are popping up time after time.
See http://www.bielek-debunked.com
for a full report about him lying.

Best regards,

Golf Sierra

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eleni

Is there really any proof of reptilians eating people?

Ha, ha, ha, good question! In one of my hubby's sessions he processed an incident where on another planet he was a reptilian raping and pillaging and occasionally eating the brains of humans as if they were delicious delicacies.

The humans finally managed to subdue him and I'm sure on some planet there is a legend about my sweet hubby the rapacious reptilian and their very own dragon slayer. That's the truth :-)

blessings,
gnosis

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I guess I don't understand.

You're wondering about the eating of children by reptilians (T-Rex) brought up and denied?

How does the mantis fit in?

Kerry asked about the reptilians eating our children and it was denied.

Also the descriptions of the T-Rex was all too weird and he said it looked insecticide (maybe I was just taking too much in tonight) My mind maybe just foggy. Guess I need a rest



Eleni, I feel for you and wonder if you ever heard of Robert Bruce

http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/

I heard him speak and this man may be able to help you and he doesnt charge a thing. A real hero in my book but when I heard him on C2C he was advising people with questions like yours to send him an email

[Seashore]

I wish Camelot would interview Stewart Swerdlow.