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Old 11-02-2009, 06:00 PM   #1
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Now they have decalred pandemic in Bulgaria. 3 people have died.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:21 PM   #2
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Ukraine, Kiev. (Sob. corr.) On November 2. As a result of the epidemic in California and flu symptoms in Ukraine 67 people died. At the treatment is more than 255 thousand citizens. Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko appealed for help to the leadership of Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Slovakia, Poland, USA, Switzerland and other countries. He believes that Ukraine itself can not cope with the epidemic. Slovakia sent 200 thousand gauze bandages, which is half of its reserve. Million armbands contributed Poland. Antigrippoznye drugs shipped Switzerland. Other countries also expelled different medicines. Customs officers have been instructed not to delay the shipment of medicines and bandages. In Ukraine, attended by representatives of the World Health Organization and the United Nations, to consult doctors and to determine the level of danger.

In the nine regions of Western Ukraine are closed and pre-school educational institutions. Defense Ministry banned the sending of conscripts in the army units. Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko outraged that pharmacies inflated the prices of drugs. It threatens to deprive them of their licenses. Security Service of Ukraine in Kiev on 19 closed pharmacies. All presidential candidates have postponed for three weeks of campaigning.

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Old 11-02-2009, 06:26 PM   #3
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another translated article: seems like we need to pay attention to wha'ts happening in Ukraine.

Urgent. In Ukraine walk viruses pneumonic plague and swine flu. The hospital will issue anti scorbutic suits?

As the "phrase" informed sources, to date 100% confirmed the diagnosis of pneumonic plague in Ukraine. Meanwhile, the head physician of the medical institutions sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, but to speak only of swine flu.

Also required to distribute at health facilities masks with 8 levels of protection suits and anti-plague protection. There is also an informal orders not to let the sick visitors.

According to our knowledge to date in Ukraine go parallel viruses and pneumonic plague, and swine flu. From the plague has killed over 60 people, and the flu - about 14 people.

Pneumonic plague is a particularly dangerous infections. This is one of the most aggressive infections that threaten human life, along with anthrax.

Typically, the agent of pneumonic plague is transferred ferrets, coney, other rodents, including rats, living in warm climates. They are the natural reservoir.

Disease begins acutely with a fever that appears suddenly and rapidly raise the temperature to 40gradusovS. Chill followed by fever, severe headache, dizziness, severe weakness, insomnia, nausea, vomiting, pain in the muscles.


They expressed intoxication, frequent violations of consciousness, frequent psychomotor agitation, delusions, hallucinations.

Typical lurch, facial flushing and conjunctival, slurred speech (patients resemble drunk).
His facial features are sharp, puffy, there are dark circles under his eyes, suffering facial expression, full of fear.

The skin is dry and hot to the touch, it is possible petechial rash, extensive hemorrhage (bleeding), darkening on cadavers.

Rapidly developing symptoms of damage of the cardiovascular system: expanding the boundaries of the heart, voicelessness tones, increasing tachycardia, falling blood pressure, arrhythmia, dyspnea, cyanosis.

Is characteristic type of language: thickened, cracked, crusts, covered with a thick white film.

The tonsils are often enlarged, wounded, on the soft palate hemorrhage.

In severe cases, the color of coffee ground vomiting, frequent loose stools mixed with mucus and blood. Urine is possible admixture of blood and the presence of protein.

There are two main clinical forms of plague: bubonic and pneumonic. In the pulmonary form (primary) appears hemorrhagic inflammation with necrosis of small lung lesions.

Then there are cutting pain in the chest, palpitations, tachycardia, dyspnea, delirium, fear of deep breaths.

Cough appears early, with plenty of viscous transparent, glassy phlegm, which then becomes foamy, liquid, rusty.

Chest pain increases, breathing sharply diminished. Typical symptoms of intoxication, the rapid deterioration, the development of infectious toxic shock. Forecast heavy, death occurs, usually for 3-5 days.

Ukrainians recommended shops to buy only sealed products. If the product is opened (bread, vegetables) - pour boiling water or put in the freezer for some time.

It is hoped that soon it will get colder. . At a temperature of minus 10 viruses do not last long.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:00 PM   #4
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Thanks for the update. I agree that we need to pay attention to what is happening here. May be the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:22 PM   #5
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watch all those 6 videos on Yt....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0JqQ...eature=related
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:40 PM   #6
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Another source to tune into.
Excerpt from a long article from David Rothscum website:
http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/

This is a developing story, expect to see possible updates on David Rothscum Reports as more information on what is happening in Ukraine becomes available.

Update 1: For the purpose of keeping information from disappearing, I am going to mirror most information I can find on here.
Comments on the Huffington post website on an article about Moshe's arrest documenting his claim that the Influenza virus in a vaccine manufactured by Baxter in Ukraine replicates RNA from the 1918 flu and is meant as a bioweapon:


Update 2: The Ukrainian government wants to impose travel restrictions on people across the nation to stop the virus from spreading.

Update 3: According to the Huffington post comments I cited above, Dr. Moshe claimed that the virus used replicated RNA of the 1918 Spanish flu. Symptoms of the 1919 Flu include victims being drenched in blood:


American were familiar with the flu; it sent you to bed, made you miserable for 3 or 4 days with fever, muscle aches, and congestion, then left you shaky for about a week. It made millions sick, yet killed only the oldest, youngest, and most feeble.

The 1918 influenza was not the flu Americans were familiar with. It was a horror that turned victims bluish-black then drowned them with their own body fluids. the death toll was highest in the ages 15 to 40, those in the peak of health. The victims would be fine one minute and the next incapacitated, fever-racked, and delirious. Temperatures rose to 104-106 degrees, skin turned blue, purple, or deep brown from lack of oxygen. Massive pneumonia attacked the lungs, filling them with fluid; blood gushed from the nose. Death was quick, savage, and terrifying.

Compare this to reports that are coming out from Ukraine:

Five persons have died from the flue in Lviv, four men and one woman, says emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych.

Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with 2 others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.

(...)

Viral tests can last from one to two weeks. They are complicated and not done in Lviv. The course of the disease was very quick. The symptoms included very high temperature and short-wind cough.
(...)

All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #7
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Update from RT network:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_8S...layer_embedded
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:42 PM   #8
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From urbansurvival.com:

This is an email that George Ure recd:

"This story may be the most important of our lifetimes. I'm a retired Ph.D. biochemist FYI. I conjecture that much of the coming troubles the web bot project speaks of may well arise from this new flu variant. I note that the first cases appeared a few days ago, just the length of the incubation period from October 25th.

OK, a Mossad microbiologist warned two months ago that a new deadly flu bug was going to be released into Ukraine in two months. He got the place right, the bug right, and the time right.

The sequence of all 8 pieces of RNA in the virus that caused the "Spanish flu" pandemic of 1918-1919 is public knowledge. A long dead Inuit woman buried in the permafrost was dug up and the virus taken from her body a couple of years ago and the RNA pieces were sequenced. Quite simple to synthesize these 8 pieces with widely available commercial machines and reagents. Then transfect mammalian cells with the RNA genes to obtain the intact, fully functional, virus. Another quite well known technology. Then grow all you want in fertilized chicken eggs or a mammalian immortal cell line. More quite well known technologies.

What scares the sh*t out of me is that the bleeding in the lungs is exactly what killed a lot of folks in the 1918-19 pandemic. See the great book "The Great Influenza: The story of the deadliest pandemic in history ." People would literally fall dead walking across the street. The bleeding out of the lungs was most likely the result of a "cytokine storm" that so increased the vascular permeability in the air sacks that blood filled the lungs. The reason why the mortality in the 1918-1919 pandemic was concentrated in the 18-25 yo cohort was that they had the most active immune systems.

Now I've NO conjecture as to who may have let this loose or why. But I do know that the technology is widespread to replicate the 1918-1919 virus that killed 2-4 million Americans and about 50 million world wide. And folks only traveled by ship in 1918. And there is NO vaccine for this flu type.

Hopefully we will know in a couple of weeks the sequences of the 8 RNA pieces in the Ukraine virus. I'll bet the farm that it is a replicant of the "Spanish Flu." If so, the odds are totally infinitesimal that this was NOT a deliberate bioweapon release.

I note that long haul truckers will simply go home and park their rigs if this flu reaches the USA. And exactly what reason do we have to suppose that it will be confined to Ukraine? The average city has 3 days of food. Connect the dots... please...............
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:25 PM   #9
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I've always said 90% of of the people on this earth are good, law abiding individuals and it doesn't matter what country this is happening in , we all need to stand together and be concerned about one another whether it be 1 mile or 2000 miles away.

There are 153 schools closed in Michigan as of last friday, most were going to go back to school today. They are closing mostly for the regular flu, spotty cases of the swine flu are being reported.

It may be soon for all the angels in the heavens to band together to lend us a hand for us here on earth.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:18 PM   #10
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Now they have decalred pandemic in Bulgaria. 3 people have died.
3 people a pandemic?
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:25 PM   #11
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More than 70 have died, and it doesn't resemble the NWO swine flu symptoms. This seems to be something else.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:20 PM   #12
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More than 70 have died, and it doesn't resemble the NWO swine flu symptoms. This seems to be something else.
Maybe its the follow-up to the swine flu, much more lethal. Could explain why the supposed shortage of vaccines for the H1N1.....they probably decided to not waste any more money on that one, & instead put out this new virus, which appears to be more deadly & there is no vaccine for it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:38 PM   #13
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There's another strain coming from south america heading north as well. Might be time to saddle up and get ready for a bumpy ride, remember no fear based mentality, just reason.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:51 PM   #14
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There's another strain coming from south america heading north as well. Might be time to saddle up and get ready for a bumpy ride, remember no fear based mentality, just reason.
have not come across anything of this one....where did you hear this......time to batten down the hatches......their coming at us from all sides
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:43 PM   #15
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Ex mossad agent claims the Ukranian outbreak is started by Baxter:

http://www.unfictional.com/joseph-mo...ccine-westwood
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:44 PM   #16
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I'm thinking it was argentina or that area, have heard it over interviews 2 or 3 times, Its was I think another form of the H1N1 . but there was definately something coming in from the south heading north.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:01 PM   #17
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Here is an interview from yesterday. Jeff Rense interviews Dr. Henry Niman on the situation in Ukraine

http://www.rense.com/

Scroll down the page & the interview is right at the top of the list.

He paints a grim picture of the overall situation. Worth listening to.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:00 PM   #18
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Seems I posted on a discontinued thread about this, but I'm gonna say the same thing here.

It is now claimed this is H1N1, nothing else. I don't get how they can say it's not H1N1, then completely turn around and suddenly say it is. Around here the media is using it as an excuse as to why we should take the shot. Is this why? More fear propaganda to scare the masses into vaccination?

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_03/en/index.html

I don't buy it, and neither does a few of my fellow countrymen which have pressed charges towards our health officials for actively spreading fear mongering propaganda and blatantly lie about the severeness and deadlyness of H1N1, not to mention the safety of the fluvaccine.

We got 29 official reports on severe/unusual sideeffects of the vaccine here now, along with one death that occured 3 days after a woman in her twenties took the shot. She was in the highrisk group for fatal H1N1. It's denied that the vaccine had anything to do with the sudden, unexpected death after taking the vaccine.

Compare that to, what, 5 deaths and severeal hundred reports of severe reactions in Sweden, I'm thinking numbers around here is hushed down.

Today it was mentioned on tv, right after childrens tv, that kids up to 14 years of age are in the biggest risk of getting this flu. I find this as a repulsive attempt to scare the kids, so they in turn will turn on their parents if they choose not to take the shot.

I'd kick some butts if I thought it would help, and I wasn't in need of darn crutches cause of my recent ancle surgery! :P
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:58 PM   #19
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Lucrum, go to www.planforflu.com , you are almost saying the same words as they use, they are updating their site every few days as things are changing. This is an open to the public site. Good Info.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:30 PM   #20
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Read the first page there and I agree...with some of it.

I'm not sure I totally get what message they are trying to spread on that site. In some ways they seem against the vaccine, but later on they write as if they are supporting the vaccine but don't agree that governments have enough of it.

Swedish government have been accused of foul play, norwegian have been accused of foul play. There are people all over, saying they have prime evidence to their claims. I don't think everyone is in on it, not all government officials know that this whole thing is a lie.

The lack of information regarding a common factor for those who contracted severe illness from the otherwise harmless A/H1N1 virus, is making me very very suspicious.
The fact that we have an estimate of 1400-1500 deaths from seasonal flu every year, is making me call bs on this one.

15 people dead so far here, only 2 was known to be "healthy". So far, nothing to see here.

I saw a clip from one of the labs testing for H1N1 in samples taken from suspected patients. None of them wore masks or seemed to take any measure at all against the virus they are testing. Health officials here said sneezing or coughing inside you elbow was not a safe measure against spreading the virus. In fact, she said it increased the chance of spread because it dried up in the fabric of your clothes and was spread by air that way...

Tell me, since when did these viruses start to survive in such enviroments? What makes our health departement go against all other nations in the world on this one?

I'm not personally taking any measure against swineflu or any other flu. I rarely get the flu at all, and if I do I'm sick for like 2 days without even a fever.
I'm gonna stay positive and never worry, I have enough experience to know that mental unbalance is more than enough to catch every decease out there.

70% effectiveness for "immunization" from the flu-shot, and even then you might get sick. Either from the flu or from the shot itself.
What the heck is so great about that!?
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:36 AM   #21
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Hard to fight fear with all of these reports.

Though I believe that one way or another, the criminals responsible for engineering these viruses will pay one way or another.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:24 PM   #22
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Apparently the virus is moving east.....affecting the eastern regions of Ukraine. So far 81 deaths due to the virus ( but do we really know what virus?)
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:46 PM   #23
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Burgundia, please keep us updated as this may be a front line info for us in other areas of the world , on the rense interview the one doctor that gave his opinion said there was only one official that was keeping track in an area that had a popualtion of 5 million. His concern was that of the people who were sick vs. the amount of fatalities we were already at the 1% fatality rate that being equal to 1918 which was a big concern as this is escalating and the lack of information as well.

HJ keep the fear in check , were all in this together. Staying educated is your biggest offense.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #24
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Recent observation from Ukraine:
"In Kiev young people ask and dig for information about the 15 low flying aircrafts that each day at the same time poured out with what is described as white powders, one of the major television channels in Ukraine, Novy Kanal, told Today that aircraft is spraying the city with antibodies to decrease the number of infected people. Lemons and garlic now costs about 25 U.S. kilo in Ukraine, compared to 8.10 U.S. for only a month ago. People we talked to in Ukraine when we were there on a visit for about 2 weeks ago and friends from Ukraine on the Internet, does not take the media and flu propaganda seriously, fortunately, they know there is a conspiracy, and many believe it is a stunt with NWO and to prevent Julia Timoschenko win votes ahead of elections which is in January. Chemtrails are also very much informed about, thanks to the internet. "

(Retrieved from: http://www.nyhetsspeilet.no/2009/11/norge-har-kj% c3% b8pt-en-mindreverdig-svinefluvaksine/comment-page-4 # comments by M. JOHAN)
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:07 AM   #25
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Reported Cases in Ukraine Double in Two Days

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* 478,456 Influenza/ARI
* 24,003 Hospitalized
* 60 Ventilators
* 81 Deaths

The above numbers are from the latest update from Ukraine. The number of infected patients has almost doubled to just under ½ million, compared to the report two days ago (see map). Hospitalized patients also have spiked higher, to 24K from 15K. ICU cases are not listed, but 60 on ventilators are. However, most (37) of those on ventilators are Chernivisti Oblast, but Lviv, which has the most fatalities and cases, has none, suggesting the data is incomplete or there are significant shortages of ventilators. The number of dead has risen to 81, but media reports describe additional fatalities, include those in the Kiev Oblast. contd/...................................

http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.o...e-in-two-days/
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