Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers

[Moxie]

Phtha wrote:.. "I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question. Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt..." and ..."I'm allowed to post when and where I want."

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

[Phtha]

No apology necessary. I love heated debates myself, I often learn a lot from them.
Of course I feel fear, you are right it is hard wired. I am talking about the state of fear rather then the reaction of fear though. I'll try and be more clear.
The other day I was running down my usual route and right beside me a huge crashing sound was suddenly at my left. My heart jumped and the initial reaction was bear or something (I've seen a few on my runs before). But it was a couple of young deer just as frightened as I was. I can only imagine what it would be like to be confronted by something much worse.

Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in. I have full control of that.

Originally Posted by Moxie

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

[Jacqui D]

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.







Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

[Ammit]

This is the earth symbol, also known as the sun cross and solar cross. Mother earth.

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.









Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

Interesting... Do you know what it means?

[Ammit]

As above and also Hopi medicine wheel.

[Ammit]

Soory i forgot, also the norse sun symbol.

[Jacqui D]

I do that is all that matters, yes it is the earth sign also and it is the rosicrusion sign too.
I wanted it made clear my story was backed up with a picture of this mark so now i have posted it.

[Ammit]

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

[Jacqui D]

Thank you Ammit your kind words have been taken on board.

Originally Posted by Ammit

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

[Wormhole]

I've had two experiences. One wide awake, 25 years ago. I saw a Rep in my room with me. It's like being in a cage with a tiger that is about to spring. I was very afraid. It smiled or grimaced at me. It's knees were very bent and it was in a springing position, only about three feet from me. I had a very good view of it. It simply vanished after several seconds.

The last experience was last winter. There were two Reps, both had false skin on their faces and were pretending to be human skiers. One asked me if I wanted to see it's eyes, I said yes. It showed me and then pealed back a layer of skin and showed me the scales underneath. The scales were pale, not dark like before. I felt that these two may have been half-bred with humans. I was not afraid this time.

They showed me a creature that had a very warped skull. A human? Not sure. I was asked if this creature deserved to be loved. I responded that all creatures deserved love and were loved by god. This seemed to satisfy them, and they left.

Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

[Ammit]

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Ammit

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Cheers to that

[Wormhole]

About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here.

Worm

[Phtha]

Originally Posted by Ammit

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion.
well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side.

Originally Posted by Wormhole

About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here.

Worm

Yah it represented a lot of things to the ancients, a powerful symbol, some that I recall. 4 seasons, 4 cardinal points, 4 cardinal virtues, 4 limbs, 4 elements, 4 races..

[Ammit]

Quote [Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion.
well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side. ] PHTHA

Difference of oppinion is life my friend, no mortal thinks the same nore wants the same. We all live and think differently because we are, different.

So, if others are working against the human race, then.... you are not on MY side.?
Well i dont want you on my side , I want you to take care of your own side, look after number one first, then look to helping others. I have one side my friend, the human race and my concerns for it.

Ammit

[Moxie]

Phtha wrote: "...Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in."

Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before.

That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences.

I actually hired someone, $200 for 90 minutes consult because I suspected my military upbringing to be the avenue that I was manipulated... okay, so I was a dumb-asss.. nevermind... we look for answers... it was along my path toward dependence on my own inner thread to Truth, which I will admit, is now a "knowing", not a belief.

I am not worried, nor do I live in fear. Fear happens but it's not my foundational life premise, far from it. I have enough conviction that fear does not reside ...

yet I'm not defective enough to think that fear will not appear in my 3D experience, nor that I will find myself immune from it.

Might as well mention, that too, I have had many, numerous experiences of high lighted, sure footed affirmatives in this life to way exceed these few frightful experiences... I am not "had".

thank you for hearing me.

[Phtha]

Thanks Moxie, I didn't mean to imply that anyone in particular was living in that state, I can see how I came off that way though so I appreciate the opportunity to clear that up. I try to post as best I can without making it personal for anyone. (I fail often as I menetioned lionhawk in this thread already) Not easy as I'm sure we are all aware. Also it is so often easy to pick up the wrong emotions when reading text as we are missing a lot of what communication involves, sound and sight, and smell too sometimes.

I think this thread is great and I am very curious to hear as much as possible on the subject. I thank everyone for sharing what they have so far.

Originally Posted by Moxie

Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before.

That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences.