Michael Jackson has Cardiac Arrest and Taken to Hospital

[Soulmate7]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I don't understand either but with the kind of life he had, I can forgive him for things that happened.

He was never formally convicted of anything, which makes it hard to believe the stories that were in the media, etc.

Money buys everything in this sick world, even "love" for young boys.
It seems that a couple of good records and dance passes, give you permission to do whatever you like.

I guess I'm right about this place.

All negativity, all the time!

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


mntruthseeker, I feel your pain. I understand the adoration for a sick mind hurts you more than anyone else. I'm glad to hear your daughter is doing fine today.

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Soulmate7

Money buys everything in this sick world, even "love" for young boys.
It seems that a couple of good records and dance passes, give you permission to do whatever you like.



Don't let the door hit you on the way out. .


mntruthseeker, I feel your pain. I understand the adoration for a sick mind hurts you more than anyone else. I'm glad to hear your daughter is doing fine today.

Lets be clear here, some people have expressed admiration for his musical talent, & not for whatever crimes that he may or may not have committed in his personal life. Have we all not committed some type of crime in our life.....indeed it is part of our life's journey to both be on the receiving end of evil and also to dish it out.......why then do we feel we have the right to judge others so harshly. I am not dismissing the suffering of others, but if we claim to be spiritually aware, then surely we must understand that we are all "sinners" ......so let us look in the mirror at our own reflection first.

[J_rod7]

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Michael Jackson finally gone for good. Now if the news-media would get back to some REAL news?

I will apologize ahead to any "IDOL WORSHIPERS" among the group here,
but this is my HONEST opinion...

My opinion = GOOD RIDDANCE FREAK


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[dolphin]

Originally Posted by J_rod7

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Michael Jackson finally gone for good. Now if the news-media would get back to some REAL news?

I will apologize ahead to any "IDOL WORSHIPERS" among the group here,
but this is my HONEST opinion...

My opinion = GOOD RIDDANCE FREAK


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wow, people's true colors really do come out.....

[Orion11]

wow,

some really, really, sad, little people here isnt there?

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grow up a tad would you.

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have a good one eh.

[MONITOR]

Yes Dolphin...I agree. Michael was just wanting to be a kid because he never had a childhood. He loved kids as his buddies because he was trying to regain his lost time as a child. His experience was taking him as a five year old and brainwashing him into being a grown up. It's incredible that he survived 50. He never knew what it was like to be a kid. He tried to lived his life as a kid because he missed out on his. Do You Know Why Michael Jackson is dead? It's because of character assasins (Nacissistic Personalites). RIP MJ. AUM!

[Humble Janitor]

I must add that even if Michael did do the things he was suspected of, I could not hold it against him. My brother is a sex offender for different reasons. He's cleaned his life up and continues to do so. It was this experience that taught me not to judge people for their mistakes, especially if they worked hard to rebuild their lives and move on.

People CAN change. It's my view and I'm sticking to it.

[MONITOR]

I must add that even if Michael did do the things he was suspected of, I could not hold it against him. My brother is a sex offender for different reasons. He's cleaned his life up and continues to do so. It was this experience that taught me not to judge people for their mistakes, especially if they worked hard to rebuild their lives and move on.

People CAN change. It's my view and I'm sticking to it.

Michael Jackson was never convicted of child sex abuse. People are "always innocent until proven guilty". This is one of the "Universal declaration of Human Rights" we have. We are innocent until proven guilty!!!!!!! No matter were you are in this world, or who you are, nobody can take away your Human Right's. Not even if you are dead!!

[viking]

Well they say there is no smoke without fire...I don't know if he did or did'nt...If he did it's unacceptable!! If he's innocent.. God bless him.

We can argue until the cows come home.....

However let's not forget the messages in his songs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-TlW9gXmk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gJcNBKiyMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Hcd60VoRM&feature=fvw

viking

[Jack]

The lack of humility here sometimes is a bit dissapointing.

Ok, im totally in disagreement with the media coverage and the way the whole world is mouring over one man. People are quick to forget the million or so Iraqis who died violent terrible deaths only a few years ago because of societies continued ignorance and lack of respect for each other.

I personally like MJ, and never once felt that he was guilty of the charges brought against him by poor families who had nothing to loose and everything to gain by bringing him to court.

Take into consideration that Micheal died from a stress induced heart attack. Does a cold callous man who is capable of raping a child loose weight during a trial because of an overload of stress? Most cold callous people can handle these events, but Michael obviously could not. He is your brother and deserves some respect. He's now free from this world where he was nothing more then a money train and that is a cause for celebration not grief.

[Humble Janitor]

There is plenty going on in the world to a point where people can make a bit of time to mourn/celebrate the life of a celebrity.

Just can't overdo it.

[Anchor]

Regardless of MJ's innocence or otherwise, he was a part of a media machine controlled by people who like nothing more than to get people like us wound up. They know every trick in the book and it is important that we use our inner light to rise above the base levels at which this energy functions.

Arguments and fighting feeds these little nasties.

On an official note, I have deployed the modetorial shears - something I didn't expect to have to do since subscription.

Two messages have been deleted by me for the purposes of "back burning", and some edits have been made to peoples messages - not particularly pleasant work, but I felt it necessary.

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[iainl140285]

Look beyond the hype and illusion. I feel the magician is preparing his trick

[MONITOR]

[QUOTE][/Regardless of MJ's innocence or otherwise, he was a part of a media machine controlled by people who like nothing more than to get people like us wound up. They know every trick in the book and it is important that we use our inner light to rise above the base levels at which this energy functions.

Arguments and fighting feeds these little nasties.

On an official note, I have deployed the modetorial shears - something I didn't expect to have to do since subscription.

Two messages have been deleted by me for the purposes of "back burning", and some edits have been made to peoples messages - not particularly pleasant work, but I felt it necessary.

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Thank you kind Anchor. Aum!

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by MONITOR

Michael Jackson was never convicted of child sex abuse. People are "always innocent until proven guilty". This is one of the "Universal declaration of Human Rights" we have. We are innocent until proven guilty!!!!!!! No matter were you are in this world, or who you are, nobody can take away your Human Right's. Not even if you are dead!!

I know this. I'm just trying to make a point.

[Steve_A]

Hi MONITOR,

I would agree with you. I would also go one step further. He was never charged criminally the first time he was accused, that was a civil case, which was retracted by the accuser. I think they received a million dollars from Jackson.

If the accusation was true, the parents sold their little boys anus for money, which makes them more prostitutes than what walk along any red light district.

If it was false, I hope they are happy with their million. I'm sure it's spent by now and their conscience rests at ease (I'm sure it does).

In the criminal case against Jackson, he was found 'not guilty'.

If one wishes to argue the toss as to whether the court case was run according to law or not, that is more of a question to be directed against the legal system and not between accuser and defendant.

Was he a strange man? Sure he was! Did parents keep their kids away from him? No. Why? Because there are so many 'hangers on' and leeches in this world.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by MONITOR

Michael Jackson was never convicted of child sex abuse. People are "always innocent until proven guilty". This is one of the "Universal declaration of Human Rights" we have. We are innocent until proven guilty!!!!!!! No matter were you are in this world, or who you are, nobody can take away your Human Right's. Not even if you are dead!!

[cloud9]

Well, I'm surprised to see such hard feelings here. I don't condem nor I defend MJ or anybody else, I usually try to see the good en everybody because there's no such a thing as a 100% bad or good people, we all make mistakes big or small in our lifes and we are all learning.
It's not the point to talk about extremes as statues and glorification of people who had inflicted suffering unto others.
For those who feel MJ or anybody else have done wrong in this world, let's remember that NOTHING touches our soul. Feeling anger, hate, emotional pain, groudge or any "negative" feeling doesn't affect the other person, the only ones affected by it are ourselves.
If we feel we hate or can't forgive other human being, so much learning is still need it, it means we really need to work on it. It's very damaging to hold those felings and at the end, it's just a decision we make to live our lives in peace or in pain because it doesn't affect anybody else, just us. Besides, we very easy forget that we make "agreements" in the soul level to have different experiences as part of the learning process, we just don't remember.

[Sarahmay]

I think a lot of people are going to end their incarnations in the next 1.5 years--always a soul choice, and perhaps they don't want to go through the shift. I expect to see more suprising deaths of famous people who are not very old.

Michael was a very, very sensitive soul who found life to be extremely painful. He didn't cope particularly well. His androgyny was reflective of the re-emergence of the divine feminine, but it manifested in an unnatural way that made people uncomfortable. He certainly wasn't perfect, but he was both and icon and an archetype.

[Tango]

Steve,

I respectfully request that this thread be CLEANED UP or REMOVED...

I'm sooo sorry to see that mental illness is so active on this site...

attacks on other members... Judgements... Disrepect....

Yes... the distractors are doing " What They Do." disgusting in MY EYE...
They BLAME others for THEIR lives experience. They've learned Nothing
from being here [on Terra] And, 'they' picked their experience before
coming here. I guess they are going to be returning, several times.

I probably should have sent this to you in a private message...

Yes, Congress IS passing Cap N' Tax...

Please, Do your duty as assigned...... You Know:

" The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life...
Attitude, to me, is More Important than the facts. It is more important than
the Past, than your education, than Money, than circumstances, than your
Failures, Than successes, than what other people think or say or do.
It is more Important than your appearance, giftedness or your skill...
It will make or break a company... A chruch... Even your home... The
remarkable thing is we have a Choice everyday regarding the attitude we
will embrace for that day. We cannot change Our past... We cannot change
the fact that people will act in their certain way. We cannot change the
inevitable... The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have,
and that is OUR attitude... I am CONVINCED that life is 10% what happens
to me and 90% How I react to it... And so it is with you... we are all in
charge of our attitudes." ~ Charles Swindoll


Trooly,


Tango

[Soulmate7]

Since freedom of speech is not allowed on this forum, please ban me. Thank you.

P.S.: I wouldn't wait until I force you to ban me.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Soulmate7

Since freedom of speech is not allowed on this forum, please ban me. Thank you.

P.S.: I wouldn't wait until I force you to ban me.

Freedom of speech is fine, but you don't need to cut down other members.

[burgundia]

I am very surprised that anybody here would hate anybody here or there...
And rejoicing that somebody died? MJ wasn't a serial killer or a ruthless dictator... there are so many more people in this world that did much more harm...
But I am really astonished that hateful people feel well in Avalon and want to stick around...

[mntruthseeker]

did you just say some of us were all mentally retarded? OH BOY and I thoght I was bad LOL LOL

yep, I must be a victim of "mind control" please forgive me and my anger. I hope that there was no physical pain with what I said.

At the same time, I applaud those that DO admit their errors and correct their lives.

NO I dont blame MJ for what happened in my life......I mentioned that I had a real pain with the issues.

Apparently that pain is something that I needed to bring back into my life so I can for once put it behind me.


right now I just can't stop laughing at your bold words. YOU have attacked while you preach about others attacking

BAN me too...............

[Tango]

You don't like the writings of Charles Swindoll...?

Adjust your Attitude... Your a Victim of MK...? Retarded...? Where the
helll did that come from...? Work it people, All the attention is on YOU...? It's
NOT about YOU, Sorry... Preach...? You haven't heard anyone in Years...
Just, look at your life....!!! Michael Jackson dies, of a Demerol injection,
and YOU want attention?

It's all abt You... Right ! Oh, you will be back !!! You don't " Get It " at all.

I very much dislike detractors... Its simple... Adjust you attitude...!!!

Bann You...? That's a Cop Out... How, are you going to learn...? Only,
YOU can fix you... You, picked your experience. Just, as I picked mine.

Tango

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

did you just say some of us were all mentally retarded? OH BOY and I thoght I was bad LOL LOL

yep, I must be a victim of "mind control" please forgive me and my anger. I hope that there was no physical pain with what I said.

At the same time, I applaud those that DO admit their errors and correct their lives.

NO I dont blame MJ for what happened in my life......I mentioned that I had a real pain with the issues.

Apparently that pain is something that I needed to bring back into my life so I can for once put it behind me.


right now I just can't stop laughing at your bold words. YOU have attacked while you preach about others attacking

BAN me too...............

[oldpaganfreak]

soulmate, i'd say rthat was out of line.