so just how responsible are we?

[mudra]

Ho'oponopono is great !
Once you really understand it you 'll see that ONE is all and that separateness is only an illusion created in the field of the mind.
The mind will always thrive on dualities and dichotomies where as in reality these are completely absent from the realm of spirit.
This is why Ho'oponopono works as it brings you back to source.

Lovely you brought it up Zeddo

kindness
mudra

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

The above mentioned articel appeared few years ago and since then, Joe Vitale and Dr. Len also brought a book about hooponopono.


It's called "Zero Limits" and it is really worth reading.


malletzky

Thanks for that Mal' I will look for that.

Originally Posted by CacklingMuse

just started reading about ho'opono and deel there really is something to it..
it uses 4 self-soothing statements such as:
I Love You
I'm Sorry
Please Forgive Me
Thank You

the best time to use this "exercise" is always, especially when any emotional baggage likes to rear it's ugly head, or resentment creeps up, or even moments lost to fear and regret.
self:
i love you-
i'm sorry we couldn't have/find/do/be
please forgive me for my hesitation
thank you for guiding me where i'm most useful

Excelelnt response 'Muse, I especially appreciate how you break the 4 into practical applications. This is of tremendous help.

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

This is interesting. I just spoke to a remote viewer several hours ago who told me about the possibility of telepathically changing terrorists into non-terrorists. Then I turned on my computer and saw this thread! Perhaps it is possible to do battle with the malevolent entities who influence other people. I think we all battle malevolent entities...all the time...some of us more than others.

I keep trying to put myself in the shoes of the Pope, the President, CIA, NSA, Bilderbergers, Reptilians, Elites, Police, Soldiers, etc, etc...and try to imagine what they have to go through...and what would be involved in doing the right thing. It's easy for me to type away on my computer...but what if I really had to deal with their situations and perplexities?

This is one reason I have decided to promote the idea of basing the United Nations on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. I guess I'm trying to hijack the U.N. away from what seems to be a malevolently non-human agenda...and toward a decidedly pro-human agenda which puts We the People of Earth in the driver's seat. I read the CFR Journal 'Foreign Affairs' regularly...and I recommend that everyone read it. I don't agree with a lot of things...but the articles are well written and informative. It also gives me clues regarding how I would communicate with people like Henry Kissenger, David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinzki, etc. These are not stupid people...but I think they take orders from malevolent non-humans. I don't have proof...but this is what I currently think. By doing psychic battle with these malevolent non-human entities...perhaps I lighten the load in some small way for the people in the spotlight.

In any case...responsibility is the key word. This thread examines one aspect of this word. Christianity uses the term 'intercessory prayer' for a similar activity. According to the Gospels...Jesus performed miracles at a distance. He also told us that we are our brother's keeper. Perhaps we need to save the entire human race...in order to save ourselves. Thank-you for posting this Zeddo.

Hi there Ortho'
Great reply, I know in my life especially the synchronicities are accelerating like you would never believe. A small one was yesterday my wife was trying to find her school friends address without any joy. We recieved an email and amazingly, her addy was there in the To: column ! That's one of many.
I agree, put yourself in their shoes, what must it be like what would I have done given the same pressures, opportunities etc.
Good observation about saving the entire human race. I would have to agree as we constitute part of that whole. We are the collective in individual fragments and need to bring the fragments together in to a place of total recall/recognition.

Originally Posted by mudra

Ho'oponopono is great !
Once you really understand it you 'll see that ONE is all and that separateness is only an illusion created in the field of the mind.
The mind will always thrive on dualities and dichotomies where as in reality these are completely absent from the realm of spirit.
This is why Ho'oponopono works as it brings you back to source.

Lovely you brought it up Zeddo

kindness
mudra

Hi Mudra
The mind is the playground of our ignorance, and yes I can see how seperateness is of the mind. Hence the need to get back to spirit.

Thank you all for the input, I hope I haven't missed anyone, if I have, please forgive me!

All Love in Light

Z

[pushedforfreedom]

It's funny. I had never heard of Dr. Len's story before, but on some level, I've always tried to make of an example of myself for others to learn from. At a fairly young age, I adopted the philosophy to learn from others mistakes, but what ended up happening was that I was learning from others, just as much as they were learning from me - it was really a fantastic cycle.

I never told anyone what I was doing, in fact - I'm not sure I was even really aware of the level that I was doing it, but I can certainly relate to the story, and I'm going to make more of a conscious effort to put this into practice.

[Unified Serenity]

I think this is in the 3rd lesson in the "transformation classes". I had to rethink something that I had been doing for a few years, and I did it thinking I was being non-judgmental. I would take responsibility for my feelings, and then respond out of love to whatever situation I was. I would let the other party be free to take whatever position they wanted and not judge them as "that is their path, and it's not responsibility to direct anyone's path or interfere with it".

Now, after taking the third lesson and seeing the logic of "If I am responsible for my life, and you are in my life (we are all one), then I am just as responsible for your feelings, life, and actions as I am my own." So, now I am going through my personal inventory, watching my children and partner as we keep our home positive and mold the little dahlings into beings of love and light, and as I hear things within the world or experience negativity from others, I am silently identifying that place within me that can identify with them and saying, "I Love you.... I'm sorry.... Please forgive me.......," and once I sense that energy sent, I say, "Thank you."

I have had a lot of emotional currents flowing around me just recently as if I have opened my soul gate within the ever present universal river and feel so much of the sorrow others are carrying, and desire to lighten their burdens. I don't know if others are sensing this as well, but it seems I feel compelled to skim off this sorrow, loss, and pain in our world. I think for my own health, I will focus on sending universal love into the stream to each soul and draw them ever onward.

Love and blessings,


Unified Serenity

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

I think this is in the 3rd lesson in the "transformation classes". I had to rethink something that I had been doing for a few years, and I did it thinking I was being non-judgmental. I would take responsibility for my feelings, and then respond out of love to whatever situation I was. I would let the other party be free to take whatever position they wanted and not judge them as "that is their path, and it's not responsibility to direct anyone's path or interfere with it".

Now, after taking the third lesson and seeing the logic ...........

Hi US,
This has to be one of the hardest lessons for me!!! I was doinf well untill I got to lesson 3 and now find I have to really do some deep searching as there are areas that need attention, and they need me to direct that attention and not the other parties. No easy way out !!!!

Thanks for your insightful response.

Love and Blessings

Z