Hey Dope Heads, Give it a Break!

[Humble Janitor]

I still refuse to believe that my occassional toking contributes to strife in Mexico.

It's definitely not swag.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I still refuse to believe that my occassional toking contributes to strife in Mexico.

It's definitely not swag.

[Dantheman62]

Regardless of what anybody thinks, Steve A is one of the most level headed people on this forum and I'm glad he's here. I am a little surprised that a mod can bring back a post that one has edited, I'm not to happy about that.
Is that not the reason we have the edit button? I would like to think that once I've edited something that it stays away like I meant it to.
I think maybe Steve could've worded a few things differently in the title of the thread and maybe some in the first post too but so what!, I'm not losing any sleep over it, LOL
I say big deal and life goes on.

[BROOK]

Well well well.....all this about smoking pot
I believe there is so much going on now that is the least of our worries.

I for one used to smoke pot....when I was younger...I finally decided to quit...as I saw it was causing me personal problems. I was not going anywhere in my life, and I wanted more. in order to do that I needed to quit smoking pot.
Lo and behold...I started to become successful in my job, and finances. I also started to see the world more clearly.
Do I believe we can do without it, and use if for only medical purposes...YES
In my eyes...when the SHTF you will be able to think more clearly...but that is only my opinion.

[BROOK]

Here's something to ponder when your high....
What does it look like inside a black hole...

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/03...-a-black-hole/

[recallone]

Right. And I think that's what several of us were trying to convey.

The title of the post is inflammatory in its' authors' obvious position against marijuana, but the big rub in the whole topic is that Steve believes the situation in Mexico should be blamed on every person who chooses to smoke pot. And Steve will likely chime in a few times to respond to that comment, but look at his statements closely and the way he goes about backing up his position.

I personally couldn't care less about what other people choose to ingest. What our earth provides to us should be available, without restriction to everyone. I think that chemically produced drugs are unhealthy and often times dangerous for a number of reasons, both spiritual and physical. But that doesn't mean I have the right to impose my choices of whether or not someone else can do it.

I personally feel that plants like marijuana, cocoa, mushrooms and peyote are wonderful tools that our mother has provided to us for a reason. The fact that they're illegal is a huge deterrent for most people, and that's unfortunate. But aside from what everyone's position is on drug usage, the real topic of import is whether or not marijuana and its' demand, usage, whatever is to blame for the situation playing out in Mexico right now.

If you believe the media (yeah, the same guys who told you that jet fuel brought down the towers, and that an invisible passenger jet crashed into the pentagon), then its that evil marijuana to blame. But if you look outside of the box and connect the dots, the truth is that this situation is manufactured and pot is really just a little detail that serves as a point of distraction.

The borders have been weak for years now. I can't be the only one that's putting together the pieces of that very significant happening. The borders are weak, which means more illegal immigrants (and I dislike even using that term) are coming into the U.S. working for a fraction of what the middle class used to be paid for doing. I used to work in construction, and more and more - jobs were being underbid by crews that had mostly illegal aliens working. This is just one of the ways in which they began eradicating the middle class, getting us all prepped for unrest.

With soft borders, drugs and guns were allowed to move more freely across the borders. Less restriction means more traffic. More traffic means more of a problem - but a problem that was specifically created in order to justify the increasing of manpower in government law enforcement agencies. I know for a fact that the government was directly responsible for bringing in a lot of the drugs that were in the U.S. in the late 80s. I can't speak for other time frames, but the bottom line is that our elected leaders' hands are waaaay dirty and this is a situation that has been very carefully created.

And while marijuana may be one of the chess pieces used in this mess, it's certainly not the root of the problem. And by convincing people that its about drugs, they're doing two things to us. They're offering yet another way for us to divide ourselves from one another with unsavory titles and inaccurate suppositions AND they're using the misdirection to add more troops to their already overpopulated police force. They've been pushing police recruitment here in Los Angeles for the last year or so. Radio ads! They've got more cops on the street than ever before. And the media keeps us preoccupied with the bedtime story about the drug situation in Mexico, while the ranks get deeper and deeper.

Meanwhile, the writing is on the wall with statements from Timothy Geitner about a global economy. They're trying to push through gun legislation that radically infringes upon our second amendment rights. They're offering bigger and better ways to drug the population (with prescription drugs!) into compliant little zombies, and the steps our government is taking are frighteningly similar to the steps Hitler took (banks, auto industry). Naomi Wolf is a good source to look up for that research.

So yes, absolutely - the subject of who smokes pot is pretty effin petty. There's a bigger picture involved and its time we started seeing through the lies and manipulation that's used against us, and very clearly identify the means by which its' limiting us. Dividing us. Distracting us. Together this gets done. An acknowledgment of that inherent connection and a distaste for that lies that say otherwise is needed. The official story is poison in my mouth. It tastes foul and I can't bring myself to parrot it as though it were mine. My fellow humans are mine and I am theirs. The lie that says we are not is what I shall challenge, every time.

Our strength is beyond our perception. We'll realize it when we strip away the lies that divide us from it, and each other.

<steps off of soapbox> Sorry for the book, y'all.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Well well well.....all this about smoking pot
I believe there is so much going on now that is the least of our worries.

I for one used to smoke pot....when I was younger...I finally decided to quit...as I saw it was causing me personal problems. I was not going anywhere in my life, and I wanted more. in order to do that I needed to quit smoking pot.
Lo and behold...I started to become successful in my job, and finances. I also started to see the world more clearly.
Do I believe we can do without it, and use if for only medical purposes...YES
In my eyes...when the SHTF you will be able to think more clearly...but that is only my opinion.

Similarily, I experienced the same effects when I got my drinking under control.

I am aware that smoking too much can and will sap my motivation, hence my refusal to do so.

[Dantheman62]

[Dantheman62]

[Humble Janitor]

Feel the force, TPTB!