Dark Human Beings

[judykott]

Mallys it appears as if you have embraced the concept with your avatar, so have wrapped yourself in it. May I ask is this of your choosing or because you believe one who told you this about yourself. If that is your wish to embrace it this is a perfect avatar, symbolism is powerful and you are choosing it to represent yourself. With the information given which is not a lot there could be many things going on.

One thing could be you are wanting to belong or have a sense of community and someone has noticed or identified with you in someway. Sometimes if one feels alone or "different" then one will believe anything about themselves to feel as if part of a group. In that case I would use caution as wanting to belong sometimes choices are made that would not normally be made to fit in. Sometimes there is the desire to be different or rebellious. May I ask are you young? That does not mean that one can not know self, or have great wisdom. There are stages in life where I believe one can be drawn more to what we are referring to "dark" . So just curious

Also may I ask if BDSM is involved in any way? I have seen people I know led into this path, which they have not been able to return from. They have experienced things which since consensual in itself does not appear harmful, but has led to bipolar expression of emotion. From the high of the activity to the low of everyday life. The poles more extreme as they slip more into the scene, where depression sinks in for day and now weeks afterwards. Even if it is not BDSM to engage in activity's that would bring on these highs which have a dark energy also can bring on the corresponding lows.The path which appeared bright and exciting had a negative and very dark effect and that was their terms for it, no mine. It is always wise to look carefully at a group, if that is what you are thinking of before engaging in activities. This goes for groups purporting to be "good" as well as you will often see rotten fruit coming from those trees as well. Calling something good or light does not make it so. Also it is good to note if you are exposing yourself to siphoning of energy by persuaded you are of dark energy to induce you to produce more of it.

There could be other reasons as well, I would agree with the dark warrior, who engages other dark forces. You see it in the Western archetypes the sheriff with his star, in the samurai, or in the shaman's who practice dark arts to protect their tribes. In Hawaii wars were fought that way with the kahuna's use of the dark arts to protect their own. The sheriff who used rough or "bad" ways against the "bad" to protect the "good".It absolved the general population, from having to engage or get their own hands dirty so to speak, at least in their minds. In Bali as well it is used widely to get revenge, to have a curse put on some one who has done you wrong. Which could be seen as karma being exacted on those who had harmed others. They take on the bad so the group can remain good and untouched, at least that is what some of them believe. This goes for some monks as well. They also use their energy for healing. The acupuncture points in martial arts can kill or heal depending on the force or energy used.

There is light and dark in all of us. Those who feel they are they most light, love, namaste and enlightened are often the most deceived and blind. On this site you can see that in action with the responses of people showing anything but those purported words, if their belief system is challenged in any way or even a simple question asked. There are many wonderful people on this site learning, questioning, challenging, and growing. Some who choose to continue to follow, some who choose to walk beside. My actions do not always match my words, but the gap is closing, lol. Recognition of it comes sooner and amends made. It is much harder to live a word than speak it. You are speaking words it is your choice to live them or not. Dark energy, I do not feel that anymore from you than anyone else. But I am also not one who will say if it is in my heart so it is the truth (the truth) and if you do not believe me than you are in your mind and are not in your heart. I am becoming, I am learning, I learn from everyone,I have learned a lot from your exploration and the responses others have given to you already. Thank you for your honesty and exploration of self and having the courage to share it with all of us.

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Quote, Mallys
Re: Dark Human Beings
I was told not to talk about this anymore because it could attract some dangerous attention to me but i really wanted to know what you all think about this matter.
i know a human with dark energy and when you meet one you know something is different simply by the way you react to their presence, some people feel uneasy or some just can't stand their presence and you just know that the person is different from the others.
they are usually weak, tend to get sick easily, have a pretty slim body shape, really smart and have advanced abilities like being good em paths. they usually like to be alone and are harmed by everything that shines ( spiritually of course ) even if they do not reject God, they are just not compatible.
I know this sounds kinda weird and i don't have any hard evidence to show you all.

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This is in regards to the quote above. No hard evidence is needed, most of the important things in life have no hard evidence.
I do not know if this is relevant but often those who warn us not to talk about things anymore are the ones we need protection from as it is a form of isolation. To isolate you as they know best for you, can be turned on you as they become your source of information. Sometimes there are people who feel dark because they have not had love or care as children. I have seen a case of what appeared to be possession, in that case they were not able to be articulate as you are in your situation. I have also seen temporary problems with people who are on prescription drugs especially Prozac, alcohol, cocaine or meth and they had dark energy. Sometimes choices are based on a pattern we have lived so are familiar with. I do no know if any of these ideas or thoughts well resonate with you or any of these situation are yours. Thanks again for sharing so much of yourself. Judy

[Mallys]

First of all thank you so much for your post, i had a really great time reading it and appreciated your concern.

To answer your question i am 25 years old and yes i do feel young when it comes to matters like this one ^_^.

Unfortunatly i do not know what BDSM means so i couldn't understand what you said, i tried to google it and found some really weird things about it, not sure if it was what you meant but if it is i can assure you that it is not involved in any way. I can assure you i do not take any drugs or anti-depressant.

Concerning my avatar i can't really say but i really like it, i like the presence and style of the character shown on it but i do not identify myself to him. But i do wish i had that style lol but that's the kid in me talking ^_^.

When i was young i always felt different, not because i was rebellious or felt i did not belong, but i was able to feel and see things i couldn't understand, coming from a muslim family i was asked to pray and pray some more until it all gets better, i did not really believe at the time that praying would help me with what was happening. I could see "things" in my room, hear poeple talking in empty rooms and feel feeling that were not mine.

Many years later i met a person that is now a very good friend of mine who was able to answer some of my question, and even if he did not have any proofs or hard evidence, i believed him because i knew that what he said had part of truth. He helped me understand things about me and how to control it because it was eating me away. he was the one who told me i had dark energy and explained to me that concept.

I am now trying to learn how to meditate and understand better all those new concepts. Meditating is harder than i thought i have to admit ^_^ since i have a lung malfuncton and cannot breath normally (i do not have a respirator or anything of the sort).

Judykott i will gladly answer any of your questions if you have more of them, it will be my pleasure to keep exchanging words with you as i feel i learned a lot from your post ^_^.

I wish to ask Nancy something too, my friend and i wanted to ask you and your husband if you knew anything about the concept of : "patronage".

[NancyV]

Originally Posted by Mallys

First of all thank you so much for your post, i had a really great time reading it and appreciated your concern.

To answer your question i am 25 years old and yes i do feel young when it comes to matters like this one ^_^.

Unfortunatly i do not know what BDSM means so i couldn't understand what you said, i tried to google it and found some really weird things about it, not sure if it was what you meant but if it is i can assure you that it is not involved in any way. I can assure you i do not take any drugs or anti-depressant.

Concerning my avatar i can't really say but i really like it, i like the presence and style of the character shown on it but i do not identify myself to him. But i do wish i had that style lol but that's the kid in me talking ^_^.

When i was young i always felt different, not because i was rebellious or felt i did not belong, but i was able to feel and see things i couldn't understand, coming from a muslim family i was asked to pray and pray some more until it all gets better, i did not really believe at the time that praying would help me with what was happening. I could see "things" in my room, hear poeple talking in empty rooms and feel feeling that were not mine.

Many years later i met a person that is now a very good friend of mine who was able to answer some of my question, and even if he did not have any proofs or hard evidence, i believed him because i knew that what he said had part of truth. He helped me understand things about me and how to control it because it was eating me away. he was the one who told me i had dark energy and explained to me that concept.

I am now trying to learn how to meditate and understand better all those new concepts. Meditating is harder than i thought i have to admit ^_^ since i have a lung malfuncton and cannot breath normally (i do not have a respirator or anything of the sort).

Judykott i will gladly answer any of your questions if you have more of them, it will be my pleasure to keep exchanging words with you as i feel i learned a lot from your post ^_^.

I wish to ask Nancy something too, my friend and i wanted to ask you and your husband if you knew anything about the concept of : "patronage".

Hi Mallys,

My husband is now 54 years old, but when he was young he had a lot of similar abilities that you describe about yourself and also other abilities you may have, but just have not been in a situation where you needed those abilities. He left home at age 16 to join the Army and go to Vietnam, where he fought for almost 2 years as a sniper/assassin in a special ops secret unit, from age 17-19. During those two years he escaped certain death many times, really almost magically. He's been blown out of helicopters, been in plane crashes, hit roadside bombs, was captured by the Vietcong and was a prisoner for about a week until he escaped after killing all his captors, and has many scars from being shot, stabbed and hit by shrapnel. The tribe of Hmung that he and his 10 man unit lived with named him Blackheart, and that is the code name he was known by in his next career for many years. Out of the 200 men that went over in this particular secret unit, only 9 returned. He was one of them.

After returning to the US he became an International counter terrorist agent for the government for quite a few more years. Many of his experiences were highly spiritual in nature, although one could argue that all experiences are spiritual, so we might say they were "paranormal".

I asked him just now about patronage and he said "why would I attach myself to a lesser being". His understanding of patronage is that when a person takes on or accepts a supposedly more experienced or "higher" entity (or person) as a patron, one is actually taking on a master. Then it becomes much like a religion. It is hierarchical in nature, as is religion, and both serve to disempower an individual by putting them in a subservient position, whether to a God or to a "higher" being. It also occurs to me that any being or person who wishes to BE a master or patron or God is also indulging in the hierarchical game, which basically makes him a "lesser" being, certainly a lesser evolved being.

I'm sure the vast majority of people will not understand that a man like my husband is an incredible balance between dark and light and not attached to or controlled by either one. I also realize that most will judge these abilities and people with dark energy from their own perspective, and if they are coming from an unbalanced perspective, whether from the light, from religion or from the dark, they will not truly understand what is being said. Basically I don't care what anyone else thinks and certainly my husband wouldn't care.

The interesting thing is that up until I met him I did not understand how much more powerful a BALANCE between light and dark is rather than just one or the other. I KNEW that the dark had great weaknesses but I thought the light was all powerful and I used the power of the light in all my travels in this world, and on other dimensions and other planes. I also used it in a job I had when I was in my mid 20's as an undercover government agent in Mexico and South America. Naturally I met some very nasty people and it was a great learning experience.

We have been married for almost 14 years now and I am very grateful to have had him as a teacher. He has helped me, not through any active "teaching", but by example and from his stories (which I had to drag out of him!). He would never attempt to change anyone because he is very detached about how anyone else lives their life. My guess is that we have helped to balance each other. He is much more mellow and loving and I am a lot more tough (although I was definitely more tough than most women I knew) and less obnoxious in my "new age" type interests.

As EpiphaMe says, a neutral position frees one from the control and constraints, both of which are traps, of either the light or the dark.

Nancy

ps: your avatar seems to suit you. My husband has his office full of skeleton heads, swords and knives with skeleton and dragon carvings and various gargoyles and other interesting creatures. The archetypical purpose for gargoyles and grotesque creatures is to ward off evil spirits.