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Old 02-14-2009, 06:38 PM   #1
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Hi manticore,

I think perhaps you missed my point about the 'bathtub' incident with John Lear. He said it looked like a M2-F2 from the series 'The Six Million Dollar Man'. He couldn't have done this as the series only took to the airways seven years after he saw the object.

I really do not wish to dwell on the subject much as I beleive that everybody has the right to understand what they will from a conversation.

The fact that John Lear dedicated himself for three or four hours during an interview is not necessarily proof that he is factually correct. It merely makes him a very nice man and that to me there is no doubt.

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Hello Steve,

What he meant about the "bathtub" was that the object looked like a bathtub. I know, and I said it at the end of the program, that for some this information would be hard to swallow. However, he had a fascinating career and some of his concepts are plausible. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

My job is to let the guest express him/herself, no matter how strange or "out there" the concepts may be. I was very impressed with the fact he joined our chat before I joined it and he stayed after I left. He really wanted to spend time with the audience that meant a lot to the listeners. I only expected an hour and the chat went on for about four hours.

Thanks for listening everyone and remember, in order to get to the truth. Next week I'll have Sgt. Clifford Stone and the next, Jim Sparks.

In Veritas,

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Old 02-15-2009, 12:46 AM   #2
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Oh, you're absolutely right, Steve. I was a fan of the Sixth Million Dollar Man (1973-1978) and should have caught that discrepancy. Good find.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:01 AM   #3
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Hi manticore,

I think perhaps you missed my point about the 'bathtub' incident with John Lear. He said it looked like a M2-F2 from the series 'The Six Million Dollar Man'. He couldn't have done this as the series only took to the airways seven years after he saw the object.

I really do not wish to dwell on the subject much as I beleive that everybody has the right to understand what they will from a conversation.

The fact that John Lear dedicated himself for three or four hours during an interview is not necessarily proof that he is factually correct. It merely makes him a very nice man and that to me there is no doubt.

Best regards,

Steve
Couldn't he compare something that he saw earlier using as a point of reference something that he saw later? of course he could. I could say taht my grandmother looked like princess Diana.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:20 AM   #4
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Hi burgundia,

You're absolutely right in your Grannies case, because you're talking about her now. You couldn't have thought this fifty years ago though.

If you listen again to the Lear interview he stated that at that time he thought of the Six Million Dollar Man craft and even called his friend telling him so, seven years before the series was aired.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not screaming foul here. It could even have been that explained himself badly, but in any case it got me rather 'off guard'.

As I mentioned earlier, everybody should take what they want from the interview.

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Old 02-15-2009, 03:53 PM   #5
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Hi burgundia,

You're absolutely right in your Grannies case, because you're talking about her now. You couldn't have thought this fifty years ago though.

If you listen again to the Lear interview he stated that at that time he thought of the Six Million Dollar Man craft and even called his friend telling him so, seven years before the series was aired.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not screaming foul here. It could even have been that explained himself badly, but in any case it got me rather 'off guard'.

As I mentioned earlier, everybody should take what they want from the interview.

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I think that at his age 10 years earlier or later doesn't matter. your memory deteriorates as you grow older....
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:56 PM   #6
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I'm listening to the interview now. To me he is one of the most honest and sincere guys that are out there. he talks from his heart, he doesn't pretend to know more than he knows, he openly admits that he changed his mind explaining why. he doesn't know the whole truth( who does?) but he no doubt wants to share all the knowledge and information he has with the rest of humankind. And he is quite bold i think...
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:05 AM   #7
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Hi Steve

Thanks for your reply. Yes, am aware of Greer and his courses whereby you can go out into the wilderness at "hotspots" and summons the ETs. Apparently many of the course attendeees have seen and photographed/filmed ETs and ET craft. It is my understanding that some are quite physical but many are not, that is, less physical than what we term physical. Say, etheric, if you like.

And some of the ETs would be beyond most people's physical sight unless they have clairvoyant vision unless the ETs wanted themselves to be seen and then can do so. Some do indeed have very physical craft, and some have craft that are slightly physical, meaning still with a physicality but way less dense than we term 100% physical.

I, personally, see no problems at all with Greer and his non-physical ETs. Some of them can materialise and dematerialise at will. You will know this as many UFO sightings are here one second and then appear hundreds or thousands of miles away in a split second on radar - so it is clear that whilst they are capable of very quick speeds, in this case, they are merely disappearing from one place and reappearing at another. (like teleporation, if you will)

Personally, i have huge respect for Greer and believe he is definitely one of the much more enlightened and genuine researchers around in the UFO community. It does bug me though that it seems to take sooooo long to get that free energy technology out there though! The time is NOW for disclosure of this free energy technology!

If you have more questions re the physicality or otherwise of aliens or their craft please just ask me.

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Old 02-16-2009, 09:03 AM   #8
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Hi Barron,

I think you may have unravellved my confusion.

It all of a sudden is beginning to make a little more sense to me now.

I'm going to spend some extra time to think about this, because this idea could explain many things to me that perhaps I had difficulty in beleiving before.

I need to look back on all the notes I have.

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Hi Steve

Thanks for your reply. Yes, am aware of Greer and his courses whereby you can go out into the wilderness at "hotspots" and summons the ETs. Apparently many of the course attendeees have seen and photographed/filmed ETs and ET craft. It is my understanding that some are quite physical but many are not, that is, less physical than what we term physical. Say, etheric, if you like.

And some of the ETs would be beyond most people's physical sight unless they have clairvoyant vision unless the ETs wanted themselves to be seen and then can do so. Some do indeed have very physical craft, and some have craft that are slightly physical, meaning still with a physicality but way less dense than we term 100% physical.

I, personally, see no problems at all with Greer and his non-physical ETs. Some of them can materialise and dematerialise at will. You will know this as many UFO sightings are here one second and then appear hundreds or thousands of miles away in a split second on radar - so it is clear that whilst they are capable of very quick speeds, in this case, they are merely disappearing from one place and reappearing at another. (like teleporation, if you will)

Personally, i have huge respect for Greer and believe he is definitely one of the much more enlightened and genuine researchers around in the UFO community. It does bug me though that it seems to take sooooo long to get that free energy technology out there though! The time is NOW for disclosure of this free energy technology!

If you have more questions re the physicality or otherwise of aliens or their craft please just ask me.

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Old 02-17-2009, 02:00 AM   #9
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Hi Steve

Thanks for your email reply. If you're like me, you've probably read hundreds of books and got a long list that are bedside awaiting time to be read!

Anyway, i really would recommend Steven Greer's latest book which was a UFO/ET book that i enjoyed the most in recent years. It will also probably clarify the physical/ etheric ETs a lot better than i did above too.

The book is called: Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge. Can really recommed it - a very easy and enjoyable read.

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Old 02-20-2009, 03:39 PM   #10
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Thanks for posting the link to this... it's a great radio show and also a great interview with John Lear.
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Thanks Smat!
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I'm listening to the interview now. To me he is one of the most honest and sincere guys that are out there. he talks from his heart, he doesn't pretend to know more than he knows, he openly admits that he changed his mind explaining why. he doesn't know the whole truth( who does?) but he no doubt wants to share all the knowledge and information he has with the rest of humankind. And he is quite bold i think...
Hello Burgundia,

I got away feeling like you as well. I found him not pretentious and he spent over 4 hours with the audience and I fielding every question during our chat with him. He has been stopping by our chat daily http://www.veritasshow.com/chat.html

He even stopped by today. To the point where I will be creating a forum to invite all my guests. I believe some of you had the opportunity to chat with him. Many guests are not as a approachable, and for that, he has my respect.
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