What exactly will happen in the aftermath of the collapse?

[Emman]

Good folks,

The Dow fell 678 points or 7.3% today. We know what's going on more than the average person. We have been monitoring this for many months. We're aware. I've prepared as best I can. Bought freeze dried food to last the family for 4-6 months, pulled cash from the bank, and stocked up on any goods and supplies that are pertinent for short term survival.

We know the dire straits listening to the whistleblowers on Camelot and other forecasters. We're prepared for the impending bank holidays and closures of stores, and services.

My question is: what exactly will we be facing when the collapse occurs? Will the banks call all of the home loans? Will people be kicked out of their homes as a result of not being able to pay their mortgage? Will mercenary troops be knocking down people's doors to evict them?

I'm just trying to get a handle on exactly what kind of situation our lives will be in the following several months after the collapse. We've heard about the dire straits, but it seems almost abstract to me because I haven't heard from the forecasters exactly what kind of living situation we will be facing. Yes, I understand that chaos will occur. I wonder if all my preparations I've done will be enough or for naught.

If there are any articles that give an idea about what exactly our daily lives will be like in the aftermath of this downfall, please post the links.

Thank you......

[LiquidSwordz]

Hmm, this is what i see happening. They are trying to crash the markets as much as possible, to create civil unrest to declare martial law. If this doesnt work, they will most likely stage another terrorist attack(bombs,biological) If this doesnt work, i think we could see an attempt to unleash World War 3. I think they are trying their hardest to push martial law though, as much as they can. The reason i say this is because of the Patriot Act, and all the new executive orders Bush has signed, during his years in office. It would be a TOTAL waste, to have signed all those bills, that take away our freedoms, if he leaves office without using them.

This is what i see happening, if martial law is declared. Troops will be on our streets from all over the world. Anyone who resists, protests, or even speaks publicly about our government, will be labled as a "terrorist," and placed into FEMA camps. Only god knows the punishments they will endure.

Soldiers will have the right to come into our homes, confiscate our weapons, belongings, food etc. Just like they did in Hurrican Katrina, when they were doing, block by block sweeps. Since our homes are all on loans by the global elite who own them, they can seize them at any time. Why do you think the feds are buying up all the bad loans? This bubble was created by them. They just want more control. Examples are: JP Morgan buying WAMU, and Citigroup pushing for Wachovia. JP morgan, Citigroup, and Bank Of America are all apart of the global elite. When they kick us out of our homes, where will we go? The troops will just gather us up, wherever we are hiding and throw us into those FEMA camps. Once again if you resist or speak up openly about the government, you will be labled as a "terrorist"

[Swanny]

Why would they take food?

[kopenhagen]

Originally Posted by LiquidSwordz

Once again if you resist or speak up openly about the government, you will be labled as a "terrorist"

isn't that A Jones has been doing?

[colesmommy1117]

just a heads up...George Bush will address the nation tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. eastern daylight time.

[TAXMASTER]

it will start to spiral when you will not be able to use the atm, stores will no longer accept credit or debit cards nor checks. at that point cash will only be accepted. as prices skyrocket, because of inflation, the money will soon be worthless and we will all be temporarily in barter mode. at that point, gold and silver will be used. then the amero will be introduced. they will have some form of conversion formula that will screw everyone out of their life savings.

Namaste'

[Rebel4Life]

I thought the NAU was canceled for the fact that we're bankrupted ? I remember reading an article stating that Canada did not want to from the NAU because we're a bankrupted country...so how is this gonna work again?

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by Rebel4Life

I thought the NAU was canceled for the fact that we're bankrupted ? I remember reading an article stating that Canada did not want to from the NAU because we're a bankrupted country...so how is this gonna work again?

Mexico will take us over!

[duffster]

I live in Australia and all we hear is how good our banks are and we have nothing to worry about we are free from the rest of the problems of the world (What a joke ) Now we have out wonderful PM saying that times are going to get Hard!! .
I like many people have been buying food and stocking up in readiness for what is to come,but at the end of the day i do not see how the banks can call in ALL of the home loans We the people who have home loans would out number any amount of troops and police in any Nation so i dont see how they can call in the loans .

Good luck to all
Love and peace

[Jacqui D]

Originally Posted by duffster

I live in Australia and all we hear is how good our banks are and we have nothing to worry about we are free from the rest of the problems of the world (What a joke ) Now we have out wonderful PM saying that times are going to get Hard!! .
I like many people have been buying food and stocking up in readiness for what is to come,but at the end of the day i do not see how the banks can call in ALL of the home loans We the people who have home loans would out number any amount of troops and police in any Nation so i dont see how they can call in the loans .

Good luck to all
Love and peace

I heard duffster that there are a lot of iluminati in your country and they have taken over a lot of your civillians by walking in.
If you do not know what that means it is total bodily takeover by these 4th dimential beings.
Australia is the land of the free at the moment because a lot of them are residing there, they will not bring chaos to their own doorstep.
But how long that will last i have no idea.
Keep safe and pray you will no go down like many other countries will

[Genevieve]

Hi Jaqui !!

In regard to your above post would you care to point me in the right direction toward "researching" that observation a little further please?

I am in no way discounting your observation - merely asking for some help in looking into this further.

While I do feel very grateful for living here in Australia at this moment in time , and grateful for my location, upbringing, the various ebbs and flows of my life that have funnily enough brought me back at this very moment to the place of my childhood - I am continually PERPLEXED to say the least about the resounding SILENCE from the average Australian citizen in the face of what is happening worldwide.

Do they REALLY believe we are immune to it all? Or do they think our little old government is gonna turn around and go "Isolationist" on the rest of the world?? lol I doubt it seeing as our whole economic BOOM is related directly to China's industrial expansion. And even our "beloved" BHP Billiton which is almost soley responsible for the resources boom in Western Australia - has suffered badly this week.

I seriously think we are in a VERY precarious position as Australians - politically and geographically.

While we currently have "good" economic realtions with the Chinese ( and a Mandarin speaking Prime Minister to boot lol) - we were also a part of the Coalition of the Willing and so far up the US *** that at one stage I thought if GW stopped walking suddenly John Howard would have a brown nose!!!

We have at best "precariously polite" diplomatic relations with Indonesia (which is just a small boat cruise away from our northern shores) and one of the largest Muslim nations in the world!!

We rely almost TOTALLY on imports for all our domestic goods as we have literally NO secondary industry and are at the mercy of the world markets for our HUGE amounts of primary industry.

Add to that the fragile environment which the majority of Australians being used to a western culture "live on" and you can see we are also at the mercy of relying heavily on technology and infrastructure to provide all our citizens with even the most basic needs as water and food. A handful of dams and a fragile pipeline supply water to over three quarters of the states population in WA alone.

The whole of Western Australia is still reeling from an incident earlier in the year involving an explosion in a north west gas pipeline which we soon found out was THE one and only major supllier of natural gas to the states infrastructure and due to the "unavailability" of a certain part worldwide - we are still being hit by the limit of supply of a basic need!!! Loads of resources yes - but all held to ransom in the blink of an eye by the lack of or total control of our infrastructure!!

We also rely heavily on immigration especially in this so called economic boom to provide labour for our growth markets and also on overseas students at our Universities. Yet other studies show we have a continous "brain drain" from the nation wherein our most qualified and educated people in their various levels of expertise choose to leave the country.

While we SEEM to be in a better position financially than other economies at this present moment - I see it more as a fragile game of fence sitting and wonder which side of the fence we fall!!

With all this in mind - i am still PERPLEXED as to what Australia has to feel smug about??

[realitydesign]

I don't see a true martial law happening as we don't have the troops for it currently. The army is broken, morally destroyed- dozens of military suicides per week.

They are not up for holding their homeland hostage at this point.

But pockets of civil unrest/looting are likely on the horizon.

[Emman]

Thanks for the thoughtful postings to my questions, folks.

I listened to Gerald Celente on Rense last night and he spoke about what he sees as the aftermath of the collapse. It was actually on an optimistic note. We'll definitely all be making an adjustment in our lifestyles for sure. While many already are facing a great depression in their own llife at this moment from losing homes and living in cars or on the street, life will continue and people will adjust. Celente said that at the local level there will be commerce. People in their localities will be engaged within their own commerce. We will go back to a thrift mentality that a couple generations ago was the paradigm: save your money, be prudent in your spending, don't buy things you don't need, fix things instead of disposing of them and getting something new, cultivate gardens instead of lawns, don't go out to eat and cook more. Back to the very basics.

This is an opportunity to birth the new paradigm based upon Universal Law of compassion, fairness, and for the highest good of all concerned for all life, humanity, Earth, and all her inhabitants of the animal, plant, and mineral kingdoms.

I say: "Infinite Spirit, open the way for the best possible outcome for our future here and now. Open the way for a world that is filled bliss, joy, love, peace, harmony, happiness, prosperity, and success. May we all be under Grace and may the best possible for our lives unfold and manifest in a perfect way for the highest good of all concerned. And so it is. Thank you, thank you, thank you."

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Emman

Thanks for the thoughtful postings to my questions, folks.

I listened to Gerald Celente on Rense last night and he spoke about what he sees as the aftermath of the collapse. It was actually on an optimistic note. We'll definitely all be making an adjustment in our lifestyles for sure. While many already are facing a great depression in their own llife at this moment from losing homes and living in cars or on the street, life will continue and people will adjust. Celente said that at the local level there will be commerce. People in their localities will be engaged within their own commerce. We will go back to a thrift mentality that a couple generations ago was the paradigm: save your money, be prudent in your spending, don't buy things you don't need, fix things instead of disposing of them and getting something new, cultivate gardens instead of lawns, don't go out to eat and cook more. Back to the very basics.

This is an opportunity to birth the new paradigm based upon Universal Law of compassion, fairness, and for the highest good of all concerned for all life, humanity, Earth, and all her inhabitants of the animal, plant, and mineral kingdoms.

I say: "Infinite Spirit, open the way for the best possible outcome for our future here and now. Open the way for a world that is filled bliss, joy, love, peace, harmony, happiness, prosperity, and success. May we all be under Grace and may the best possible for our lives unfold and manifest in a perfect way for the highest good of all concerned. And so it is. Thank you, thank you, thank you."

I second that!

[Xhaosis]

Its not going to happen, a collapse that is. I have pondered this for awhile. Its not going to happen..



2012, we may see a collapse, it would make sense, this where I am needed now. This seems more like a sneak preview to the end. Yet their are to many strong people out there that will work to make a difference, like you and I. The idea of no running water or no electricity just pisses me off in the 21st century, and I am sure it does to others as well. As long as their are men like me, alive and breathing their will be no premature collapse, for I would bleed my soul before I let mad max run around looking for my home, to try to hurt my wife and children. The markets will stabilize and function for awhile, I believe a new form of control is on the horizon indeed, yet I think we can finesse this for a few more years. Give us time to prepare, and to prepare our children... let us not forget this crisis is indeed a form of control... For men will govern men as long as man feels the need to be taken care of. As I do, and others, it is our job to make sure the rules are being followed.

my 2 cents

[Kelle Baley]

Originally Posted by Lance

Tasers, Non-Lethal Weaponry, Soldiers on the streets. Greetings sister, we Canucks are sitting ducks like the Austrians in 38. If 'mericans don't change in the blink of an eye it's too late.

[QUOTE=Xhaosis;48943]Its not going to happen, a collapse that is. I have pondered this for awhile. Its not going to happen..

THank you Xhaosis for saying this from your strength of truth. I am of the hope that the fall out from advanced changes socially and politically and economically and spiritually will be at a tame enough level that we may all be able to do more than survive. THere are many like you, like me and like many Avalonians that will not just lay down in fear from challenges of such.

We will not and so the outcomes suggested likely by dis informers spreading fear over the internet will not happen as it seems could be extreme. Extreme in the way of red and blue lists targeting innocent people for NWO camps has got to be a scare tactic and even if it is set up to attempt, there is another very big consideration that I strongly now feel will occur to change the intensity of focus upon controlling masses of innocent people -the arrival of a ship many miles in diameter on October 14th.

The reason? I spoke with them via channeling. I have been channeling for years so I am familiar. They knew my heart and were extremely compassionate and are the ones scheduled to arrive. listen to Blossom Goodchild if you have not already here. you decide.

http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/

[Rocky_Shorz]

Well I know many have plans to sneak off into the woods in small communities, to get away from the Chaos of the city, but for me, I know I have a path and I am meant to be right where I am when and if it happens.

For those of us that have had time to think and discuss what's coming so we could make plans, aren't going to be going through the same shock as most. We consider those who are still going through life ignoring what is really happening around them sheep. I guess for those of us that do know, we will be the shepherds, we will be sharing our light and strength with the flock we are meant to watch over.

I think we will see more goodness after the collapse than we have ever known in our lifetime. People reaching out to others in need out of compassion.

Two types of leaders can rise out of this type of crisis, one that is angry creating a mob to destroy everything that has hurt them. The other, that has understanding and peace of heart. People will let them lead out of respect as everyone is organized with duties for the community.

Which community do you think the military is going to concentrate on?

Big cities will need leaders that are prepared for what is coming, no matter what it is...

are you ready?

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by realitydesign

I don't see a true martial law happening as we don't have the troops for it currently. The army is broken, morally destroyed- dozens of military suicides per week.

They are not up for holding their homeland hostage at this point.

But pockets of civil unrest/looting are likely on the horizon.

Don't forget our favorite mercenaries, Blackwater.

Personally, I'm hoping for soldiers to mutiny and take up arms against the government when it decides to send the vultures after ordinary people.

[Ricfly52]

Originally Posted by End_Times012

Don't forget our favorite mercenaries, Blackwater.

Personally, I'm hoping for soldiers to mutiny and take up arms against the government when it decides to send the vultures after ordinary people.

This is what I would hope for, but don't hold your breath. I spent twenty years in the military, and there are a lot of good people there. But unfortunatly there are a lot of whack jobs also. And they seem to make their way up the ranks, and often become leaders.

On another point, as posted above, I live just outside of Las Vegas, but do most of my work in the city. Every week, but not the same day every week, an un-marked, military Blackhawk helicopter, with the 25 foot radar probe in front, does a tight zig zag of the whole city. And I mean every week for over a year this has been going on. I have a friend who is a civilian air control tower worker at Nellis AFB right on the outskirts of Las Vegas. I have asked him if the chopper is flying out of Nellis. He said he had no knowledge of it flying out of the main base, but might be coming out of Indian springs (part of Nellis) 50 miles north of the city, or even Groom Lake, aka Area 51. He always has a funny look on his face when I question him about it.

[carlsweden]

Report from Sweden and Europe

Our banks in Sweden and Europe have suffered a lot from your financial crises, but our banks are more stable here in Sweden since our last crash in the beginning of the 1990s.

The Swedish government tries to tell us that but that aren’t actually true.

For example, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Germany and the rest of Europe has big problems our federal reserves are trying to help the banks with extra money for three months. I have a university degree in master of economic, and I can tell you that there you can’t put out a fire with gasoline. (You can’t start put more money in an crashed economy)

In Sweden our economy is much dampened of exporting goods to US and our economy has suffered for 2 years now with a very weak dollar. Many of our biggest companies like Volvo are getting rid of personnel because and are on their knees.

In Europe there is a “House price bubble” and we are just in the beginning of that road the 2009 will be very hard for us.

I have start storing gasoline, rice, dry food, batteries at my summer place. I have also bought a Motorcycle stored in my garage.

I think this is just the beginning of something big, every country will suffer very hard of this economic crisis. Every government is trying to calm down their people.

We will have an economic meltdown, soon the people will start go to the streets and fight for their food.

[Rocky_Shorz]

anyone listen to Glenn Beck tonight on CNN?

He's a fire and brimstone opinion usually, but today it was like he knew something that he couldn't share with all of us.

He was begging people in the tough times coming to keep their heads and not to start rioting.

He even took a while to speak about faith...

They had someone on talking about tracking Militias in America and how they were talking about... (everything we say in our threads)

I wonder if we are all on the 1M+ terrorist watch list...

uh oh, that won't look good on the resume...

[MAP]

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[Rocky_Shorz]

yeah he seemed really shook up today...

over the last few weeks he's been calling to just shut all the banks...

something far more serious has just hit him.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/art...cle/198/16799/

[Humble Janitor]

Normally I think he's a nutjob but from what I'm reading here, he seems to at least know something about the financial crisis that we don't.

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